What Is The Cognitive Attitude Of The Trickster Function? | Cognitive Functions | CS Joseph

CS Joseph discusses the cognitive attitude of the Trickster Function.
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[@KA-pe6sv]

Se trickster really sucks because you are judged heavily but you don’t even know that you are being judge, so you have constant anxiety about how you come across to others. Someone with Se trickster seeing a video of themselves is almost like torture because they are like “holy shit is that what I look like and sound like to other people”.

[@sofia8574]

K A explains why they hate being photographed

[@tomgang5612]

INTP here, can confirm.

[@dppool456]

True. But at the same time, if you have people you can trust who are willing to communicate with you on when you´re being completely unaware, it can be quite manageable. Around the right people, the extroverted tricksters can be solved. I can´t imagine how frustrating it must be for Ti, Fi, Ni, &Si trickster though, because what you´re missing is internal.

[@geraldmarcano2514]

@@dppool456 I would argue is equally frustrating for all the personalities. In my case I have Fe trickster, I am very unaware of social norms, even though this trickster is external think about how much people judge me in so many social encounters like not knowing when its the social accepted time to leave a party, I would just stay there chilling until the host makes it very clear he/she wants me to go. Lol

[@dppool456]

​@@geraldmarcano2514 Fair enough, but I'd guess that's also related to Se inferior, rather than purely a trickster issue. That is, assuming you're INTJ rather than ISTJ. Regardless, my point was that the best kind of people can see other's blindspots and help them with it. But you can't really help somebody fill the void left by an introverted trickster. You can help someone not hurt others feelings (Fe) although it can be a lot of work, but you can't help them think more sequentially (Ti), because thoughts by definition are subjective to the individual. The same with Fi, Ni, and Si, nobody can really help people with that.

[@ashrafnasasa1001]

ISTJ / INTJ - 7:16 ESFP / ENFP - 13:28 ESTP / ENTP - 22:41 ISFJ / INFJ - 27:55 ISTP / ISFP - 34:40 ENTJ / ENFJ - 39:52 ESTJ / ESFJ - 43:17 INTP / INFP - 46:18 Have a nice day ^)^

[@nourelhouda2628]

Thank you

[@ivey2k71]

LESS COMMON

[@CopyFox7]

INTJ here: It is genuinely difficult to be told over and over again that you failed to do the appropriate thing in a social situation, and embarrassed somebody or whatever. Especially when you've actually put in effort to be good socially. I guess struggling with the trickster function is a lifelong effort.

[@islammansour9441]

well-said.

[@edennis8578]

That's no joke. My grown son has spent the last 20 years giving me "that look" after I've said something, and I can't figure out for the life of me what I said that was wrong. He won't tell me, he just gives me that look.

[@EndlessKurtis]

*CNN HEADLINE* “I have no moral principles” -CS Joseph

[@CSJoseph]

yep

[@Cossaw]

@@CSJoseph morals are too subjective either way.. ;;' ~~~ ))

[@mcfreezyyaboi8389]

Morals are subjective. I personally have my own custom built moral compass that I follow, I try to not project my views on others because I know they're subjective and I know other people have their own views.

[@jadaleewallace8566]

"They do not have a logical thought in their head, ever." -CS Joseph *cries in INFJ unconscious*

[@xxxxxxx1503]

Ti trickster becomes the master function later in life, Fe critic plays important role in that.

[@rogerhuggettjr.7675]

"Ti trickster causes them to not have logical thoughts in their head...ever!" Do you know how horrifying this concept is to an INTP! I think I'd rather be a potted plant!

[@pepizify]

My dear mother has Ti trickster. She is a very happy and humorous person. I grew up going to parties with artists. I hate artists now unfortunately.

[@rogerhuggettjr.7675]

@@pepizify I think if you can't access logic you had better have a good sense of humor.

[@lizacavanaugh5959]

You'd think I'd be offended by this, but it's pretty accurate. I lack logic - I even try to practice being logical and it's rough! And also, I'd probably forget to water you if you were a potted plant.

[@usefulbobcat]

I thought intps were already potted plants

[@endofpixel3712]

@@usefulbobcat thinking potted plants

[@sandyyap5279]

"Does absolute truth exist?" - No. "Is that statement true?" - Yes. "If that statement is true, then absolute truth does exist"... MIC DROP..

[@CSJoseph]

Hot damn

[@jennahumphrey1]

"Does absolute truth exist?" -No "Is that statement true?" -I don't know. Would be a more fun rebuttal.

[@synergyzer07]

There is absolute truth; not all is relative, theory of relativity, for example, doesn’t state that, because of charge of the electron is relativistically invariant, therefore absolute...

[@sunsetjesus4719]

@@synergyzer07 you don't have to go that far. "gravitational force attracts mass" it's an absolute truth

[@AlastorTheNPDemon]

One word: context.

[@lagerthalothbrok6082]

3:55 lmao Fe / IXTJs: 7:12 Ti / EXFPs: 13:28 Fi / EXTPs: 22:41 Te / IXFJs: 27:55 Ne / ISXPs: 34:39 Si / ENXJs: 39:42 Ni / ESXJs: 43:16 Se / INXPs: 46:19

[@arroxas]

Thanks!

[@bunknee1220]

Se trickster is real. I *constantly* get told that I'm too quiet and nobody can hear what I'm saying. When asked to speak louder, apparently I repeat what I've said with exaggerated expressions but my voice is still too soft. Lmfaooo

[@ekaterinal8631]

This is freaking hilarious thank you for giving me a laugh on a random Tuesday 5 years later

[@bravespirit1428]

I imagined an INTJ, an ENTJ, an ISTJ and an ESTJ each one in a cubicle happily talking to each other while they take a shit

[@Binyamin.Tsadik]

"Don't do this, It's wrong" You like scolding general public using your Fi trickster :D.

[@CSJoseph]

yes

[@jennahumphrey1]

That's a big part of the trickster function. According to Beebe, it is an "area of manipulation and paradox." It is "mischievous, creates double binds, and circumvents obstacles." So someone with Fi trickster, when trying to get out of something, make someone do something, avoid an accusation, or in any way manipulate, will attack that person's morals. Joseph here is doing just that--"you want to call me a bad person? Fine, I'll point out all of the ways *you* lack sympathy and an intrinsic understanding of right and wrong, by calling *me* an uncaring, bad person, or by calling ESFP's stupid, or whatever. Now who's the hypocrite?" Feisty, right? Feisty, I think, is a good adjective for the trickster function. Petulant, too. But it has an endearing quality, because of its childlike (not childish) quality.

[@caincaudell8979]

@@jennahumphrey1 I think this is key because I would say something similar about my Trickster function and the way in which it manifests itself. I find myself getting excessively annoyed when I find people engaging in logical frameworks that seem too rigid. It's like I throw a mini-tantrum at the idea of absolute truth, and end up a bit too emotional about it. I also try and argue why what they think is the truth is illogical to a certain extent. This is ENFP Ti trickster performing an ironic maneuver of illogically arguing that someone is illogical in an emotional way. And as C.S. says, my argument may be rational, but it's not logical. That's Ti trickster in action.

[@jennahumphrey1]

@@caincaudell8979 how is something rational but not logical? I've been trying to figure that out helping a friend study for her logic class paper on ontology...

[@caincaudell8979]

@@jennahumphrey1 I'm not the foremost expert, but here goes my answer.... Logic deals with a sequence of reasoning that builds off each other. You have to prove each step in the chain to arrive at a hard conclusion that can only be reached by how each step of reasoning carefully builds off the one before it. It's why logic should lead you to absolutely true answers, for certain things at least. Rational thinking is not always purely logical like this. Rational thinking is reasonable, it considers what seems logical, keyword seems. It considers what seems likely, but it doesn't need that clearly substantiated if x then y then z etc type chain of justification. This is why rational thinking is ultimately a set of likely or reasonable beliefs. They can thus appear logical, but they are not technically logical.

[@Chronomatrix]

Honestly, as INTJ I love Fe trickster, eventually you learn how to not feel guilty about not giving a fuck about social norms, it's liberating. It reminds me of this phrase by A.Camus "The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion".

[@maja2740]

can't wait for the demon function

[@user-vm1pe2yz4x]

agreed

[@TheTheorizer]

This and the critic function are probably the most intriguing to me; they're so "intensely integral" in a way.

[@choco1199]

The Theorizer do you mean like how in INFPs their critic NI stops their SE blind spot from going too wild in believing it can want anything?

[@choco1199]

Because NI stops them from wanting things

[@HobDobson]

The "I can want anything" was Ni trickster. Se trickster assumes/denies/doesn't even notice things that are happening or being said which leads to doing or saying something wildly inappropriate to reality. Or feel bad about something that didn't really happen. One of the reasons people dislike INTPs is that our Se trickster *teaches* (the hard way!) that things can happen that weren't expected, but then we come across as arrogant when we point out that their plans could fail on conceivable "edge cases" (Ti hero, Ne parent)

[@Ncoherent369]

@@choco1199 I think that's if the critic function is hyper-critical. Then the INFP becomes HYPOCRITICAL. That's when i think we don't allow ourselves to want anything. But when someone like Chase points it out that we're being hypocrites, because we're looking around and seeing if others are being responsible with what they want. So when we're sitting around judging, and then we're being so critical of what we want ourselves, that we won't allow ourselves to want anything, then we're being irresponsible with what WE want, by wanting nothing. And wanting nothing, by our own standards at least, most of the time, is irresponsible. I remember because when Chase said that shit i jumped right up, and focused on what i wanted to do with my life, and I've been making insane amounts of progress since. Now I'm not just laying around watching youtube all day, while my right hand is on auto pilot playing with my balls.

[@choco1199]

Rob Anderson thanks for helping me understand better. Keep up the progress🙂

[@zeinabzein1514]

Hey Chase, INFJ here. I appreciate your direct approach, haha. I'm aware of of my Te trickster for a long while now. I grew in a household of an ESTJ mother, and ISTJ and ESFP siblings. So I had a healthy appreciation for Te. Though, I struggled much with that. In the end, I learned to do the follow to help me with Te trickster. I usually look up the thoughts or theories I might come up with to see if others thought of them also and have anything to add to what I thought. Second, if I'm unsure of how others are thinking or what they meant I ask them directly to elaborate on what they said or thought. Third, I try to understand why others think the way they do and what led to it. Thanks for your lectures. Keep the good work up. Best regards!

[@gentlesavage3808]

I have Se trickster, yet I play several sports and do various outdoor activities and I am completely engaged in those activities most of the times, I think that over time it has become easier for me to get out of my comfort zone, and challenge myself. It has surely helped me a lot in developing a good perception of my surroundings. But as a child, I never had any interest in any sports or anything involving physical interactions with others. Still, sometimes I get lost in my own thoughts and become completely unaware of my surroundings, which can be really annoying.

[@CNStanza1]

My intj dad can be annoying, he clips his nails super early in the morning waking up everyone, he speaks loud on his cellphone while having dinner all the time, sets several alarms on his cell phone and hits the snooze button every time leaving my mom awake and unable to fall asleep again, watches youtube videos in common areas, very loudly, etc. And he gets so mad when someone tells him to stop. On the other hand his lack of ethics makes him super funny, he has this really dark sense of humor.

[@cheshtachoudhury8735]

Are you sure of him being an INTJ though? Because I am one and I'm exact opposite of that. 🤔

[@CNStanza1]

@@cheshtachoudhury8735 yes, I'm sure. Maybe it is a cultural or nurture thing. As a man in Chile people don't expect men to be super considerate of others.

[@cheshtachoudhury8735]

@@CNStanza1 yeah, probably.

[@SeanIsCrispy]

@@cheshtachoudhury8735 exactly

[@taniabordy3791]

I know two INTJ and are not like that at all!! They are super serious and silent... and when they are inspired they would go in their party mood ESFP subconscious I think it is... but I think their trickster is more like they don’t behave “society” correctly just to fit in... they just don’t give a 💩 ... I think at least that

[@lilfroggyfrog]

59:00 THANK YOU FOR THIS. I've suffered social anxiety most of my life because I have had such a repetitive experience of trying to put myself out there in new situations (already hard for INFPs & INTPs), but I've continuously found myself being targeted for my Se blindness time and time again. I wasn't always anxious, it's a learned anxiety. Man, people can be jerks, but at least I know I'm the better person in not targeting other people's flaws and honestly, I'm usually see myself making more sensible decisions than a lot of others in the workplace..

[@CSJoseph]

you are most welcome

[@zzulm]

I'm an infp too and suffered anxiety. Thanks for sharing.

[@toastypuppy4042]

I am an INTP and I struggle with this all the time. I can 100% relate.

[@RotGirl-lol]

I guess Se trickster explains why I constantly have to ask what someone said over and over and why i can never catch anything thrown at me

[@nasciturusadvocatus124]

My favorite is when Se tricksters ask me to repeat a question because and then stop me halfway through repeating the questiom because they remembered the question. Lol.

[@kleineapfelblute2456]

Oh geez, that Se-trickster part is so amusing, yet revealing. 😂 I'm constantly losing my sense of balance out of nowhere, I never notice when a guy likes me and is trying to hit on me, I'm never aware of how weird things seem that I say and how I come off to the world around me because all of that seems so normal to me. I never notice when I'm giving mixed signals to other people and I only get it when they tell me they don't get my intentions and my thoughts, although I thought to be clear enough so that they should be knowing all of it. I was even told that I don't have a filter for reality, which leaves others to be amused, fascinated, interested and confused at the same time, lol. Maybe that's why INFPs struggle with being "normal" and being understood by others. Like, how are others even supposed to understand us if we see ourselves, our actions and the world so differently than pretty much everybody else around us, isn't that somewhat delusional? But I bet that kind of behaviour must be hilarious to watch from the outside. 😅

[@pragnyan7770]

If I had a dollar for everytime people judged me for my Se trickster, I'd be filthy rich now. Anyway, awesome lecture. I love this season the most. I'll try my best to cover my family's blindspots as much as possible.

[@user-df8hl4zx2l]

I'm INTJ and I needed to study body language and some psychology to be able to learn how other people feel. Because of this, I take some clues to point what the others are feeling and how I should act in light of their feelings... Which is quite a hard thing to do and I get completely worn out after, but still worth it.

[@ashuranero5721]

Same here

[@caincaudell8979]

Damn, on point with this video too, haha. "ENFP's can have rational beliefs, but they don't ever have logical thoughts." Truer than true. Explains so much...

[@askymystic2883]

It makes so much sense now! My family constantly accuses me of being oblivious, I’m always bumping into sh** and tripping on the stairs. I always have somewhat of an epiphany when I see myself in a video and think “wow, that’s what I look like?” As well as my constant distancing and disregard for reality. As an infp I’m almost tearing up at this point because I can actually say with confidence that there’s a reason why I have no concept of what is or how I come off to others. I often catch my family saying to me “you’re wearing that?” and I’m thinking “what’s wrong with this?” In school I also always doze off and don’t even realize it and then feel internal shame when I think about how I basically just wasted this person’s time and yet regardless of that I continue to consistently visit outlandish realities when I really should be working. You’re a real lifesaver CSJ! :)

[@christyrosecalvo6927]

"I think the camera is starting to smoke a little bit, maybe I could yell at it some more." All of the hurt when we are judging people because we fail to understand them or make an effort to know how they think. That is why we all need to study psychology to stop our own biases.

[@mesho95f]

"Unaware of how loud or quite they are" yeah this hits home, se. Started the series thinking i'm intp, doubted i could be other types somewhere along, and now i'm back to intp, it's the best fit based on the descriptions for each function placement.

[@mariannar1190]

Yeah I also have a tendency to either be too loud or too quiet. Not confident enough or to in-your face about my knowledge. Basically I find myself having a difficult time finding middle ground when it comes to how I come across to people.

[@jacobwiren8142]

I'm an INTJ. In elementary school I was taught about the concept of "peer pressure" as part of the program to prevent me from trying drugs. From that day onward I have always considered social rules as "so much peer pressure" and dismissed them as insignificant. Now I understand why, Fe trickster. I have also baffled people with my ability to resist peer pressure. Groups of people have come to me and tried to pressure me into doing all kinds of things, and each time they have been stunned at my ability to refuse and my inability to care. It always seemed so arbitrary. What do I have to gain by following the crowd? Friends? As it turns out, for some types, yes they do make friends that way. Once, in Boy Scouts, a group of scouts wanted to haze me as a ritual. I refused. Their leader looked me in the eye and threatened me with physical violence if I didn't accept. I looked him right back in the eye and said no... and they were so stunned I could do that I walked away without a single scratch.

[@archonofplagues1329]

What a Chad! :)

[@whyumadblachallahuakbar34]

do you have any more stories like this of being intj?

[@jacobwiren8142]

@@whyumadblachallahuakbar34 Yes, actually, now that I think about it. My mother is an ENFJ. She and I are constantly getting into arguments and then immediately apologizing to each other. For decades I was baffled by this. After watching these lectures and doing some research I now understand why: She has Fe Hero, and I have Fi child. I have Te parent, and she has Ti inferior. This means that whenever she talks to me, her Fe connects with my Fi and I feel like a child. Also, whenever I talk to HER my Te connects with her Ti and she feels insecure and dumb. The result is that we are overwhelming each other because WE ARE TRYING TOO HARD TO HELP EACH OTHER. I'm trying to make her smarter by filling her mind with impartial observations and her Ti inferior isn't strong enough to absorb it all. Also she is trying to cater to my emotional needs, but my Fi child has very simple needs and feels spoiled. We are TOO HELPFUL towards each other. When I explained this to her, we both had a laugh. Now we understand to give each other space and the fights are much less frequent.

[@edennis8578]

I had to laugh, because I soooo relate as an INTJ. My brother-in-law is the type who is always trying to pressure people into doing things he wants them to do, but when I entered the family, he ran up against an immovable object. If I don't want to do something, it's just "no." I was actually an influence on my husband's family to show them that they could actually tell him no and the world wouldn't come to an end.

[@NinjaRunningWild]

Well, social contract is for cowards.

[@guernica5413]

I've came back to typology recently, and the part of the ISTP blindspot is so true. One day I was talking with my parents about extra activities in college and my dad out of NOWHERE just assumed that I wanted swimming classes. No context, no data, just pure speculation.

[@MrRambouc]

This is another great view into the cognitive functions ! My Se trickster once told me that anything can be real so I shaved my head and wore overly flashy clothes for weeks. To the 27 people that became blind because of me (their eyes popped out just by looking) : Sorry for the bad experience.

[@runninginsept]

HAHAHAHAH! This is priceless, even more so cos I actually understood where th you were coming from 🤣

[@riyanadkarni1076]

Antoine Rochat sounds like se demon

[@aishaadam7473]

😂😂😂 ones i weared one color (black) or more like one outfit to university for a whole semister

[@StarlitSpirit]

INFP here and I am always told I talk too loud. Lol I am also suuuuuuper clumsy. Don't ask me to play sports.

[@yustinushalim1146]

Hehe, actually if somebody can train your Si child, well it will be so much better. If people don't have Se, it doesn't mean they can absolutely can play sports for an example. I have low Se as well, Se critic to be more exact. But, I ended up enjoying sports such as basketball.

[@intraserv3123]

FACTS. One of my favourite features of one of my INFP friends is how damn loud he gets when he's excited and how blissfully unaware he is that no one around him can hear their own thoughts. He's totally silent until you talk to him about something he's passionate about, then.. You can't run far enough to escape that passion.

[@bonogiamboni4830]

@@yustinushalim1146 that's true, i'm an intp and so is a classmate of mine. I'm the typical chubby, clumsy nerd with glasses, whereas he is a fucking athlete, as in he literally does athletics (track running, long jump etc) professionally, and meanwhile he is also (almost) as smart as i am. Come to think of it, excluding an istp, all the most athletic guys in my classroom have Se trickster or demon, like an entp former basketball player and current football referee, an infp who did both archery and kendo, another infp who does basketball professionally, and to top it off an entp who does karate or kung fu or some other martial arts, *and* rollerskates *and* skateboard. It's just a matter of being naturally proficient with something (Se) or being good at it only after copious amounts of excercise and memorization (Si).

[@rogerhuggettjr.7675]

Don't give up! I have an Si (INTP) child too, but I can juggle and through repetition you can create muscle memory on how doing things right like layups and free throws feel and improve.

[@Moana_moo]

Audrey Moos i am ESFP and i am not really the athlethic type. I was never interested until recently in sports though. I do have good fashion sense though

[@TheOriginalGankstar]

"...black hole sucking away my sense of humanity." Effin' classic statement from our expert ENTP here.

[@adhistie1694]

I'm an ENTP, this confirms aylot

[@someonerandom713]

@NJs: I found that physically (Se) making up for a lack of Si, like writing stuff down and visibly organizing bare information, helps with improving Ne. It makes it easier to find patterns this way and escape the Ni tunnelvision.

[@mbw6785]

Someone Random yes

[@zipeee1]

I know an ENTJ lecturer; his 10 books are in front of him for his sources & have sticky note tabs all over the place sticking out.

[@PunkFiddler]

Ugh.. spot on. INTJ friend loves to start a conversation at like 3am while i am trying to sleep. And as an INTP, i now make it a point to ask if they're having a good time because oh boy Si child can be such a doozey at times, especially when i become so in the moment with doing the things that i think would be a very good experience. As the theme of the video says, anything can be a reality.. oh and i get called out everytime that i wear iappropriate clothing. Edit... to my perspective, anything can really be a reality. I mean, given the sufficient resources, barring all preconceived notions, even the 2 most incompatible people will prosper. Hence, I get super annoyed when people tell me that it is what it is. It's because they let things go that way. If a square block wont fit a triangular hole... then make the hole bigger. Anything is possible.

[@Rishiig]

Indeed. My own thoughts on the matter are that “As long as it’s not physically impossible, it IS possible! (Though-perhaps-improbable-enough-to-be-practically-impossible...)”. Absolutely guilty as charged :/

[@erinjk123]

Dreamland is amazing. One of the favorite things about myself.

[@martenw8341]

Totally!! Nr. 1 reason I've never wanted to be another type.

[@smalltownprophet7535]

I'm laughing out loud at this for real because I actually know an ISTJ who will follow me to the bathroom and shout through the closed door at me, going on and on about something they are totally into but I really don't care squat about. It's so hilarious that it's almost endearing.

[@MBTIMemes]

I know exactly what you mean, a good friend of mine is an ISTJ and his complete absence of any sense of social norms is really intriguing. Also he is constantly approaching under-age girls (he's 26) because he doesn't get what's wrong about it =D

[@edennis8578]

@@MBTIMemes If he's really an ISTJ, then he's all about honor, duty, the law. Make it clear to him that it's ILLEGAL. That should solve the problem.

[@prayin4u523]

This info on the trickster is life changing! I just started taking notes on all the functions, I decided today I’m going to dive deep into all your information and am definitely sharing what I am learning! Thank you so much. This information can certainly be life altering as we put it to good use! INFJ here. Hoping the very best for you and your work!

[@ariantejano2518]

Your lectures have been very valuable to me, man. -ISTP

[@knotlock]

I empathize with your anger about the overrated nature of reputation 👍🏻

[@15hotchi]

BLΛCK SΛMPLE do you know where he talks about this in the video?

[@knotlock]

Amanda lynn Gleason 26:50

[@15hotchi]

BLΛCK SΛMPLE thank you!

[@Phnxkon]

I look at that as funny coming from a content creator. His reputation is how he spreads his message and how people will receive it. To not seem too critical I'm also still unsure if hes trying to deceive me into holding his worldviews because I kind of am bad at judging people's intentions and usually view the world through a jaded lense to protect myself.

[@user-lm4bv1gh7u]

@@Phnxkon yea but he does not care about what other people say about his content unless he verifies it himself unlike other people that is why when he criticizes people he can come off as harsh if anything his reputation is crap amongst the mbti community

[@shahrazade26]

Awesome lecture. My exhusband is ISTP and at one time he went 100% paranoid accusing my mom and me of conspiring to rip him off on a business venture where he had put no money. He was clueless about our intentions and decided to play it safe by assuming the worst. We ended up getting divorced because of that incident.

[@antifashist6046]

I hate those Ne trickster

[@raylin2057]

You should see me telling ISTJ sosial norms - "NO, you cannot just eat and leave, people don't like that!" "No, you have to cut the grass BEFORE the weeds show up, neighbors don'nt like that!" "NO, you have to remove the hat before intering the restaurant, old people don't like that!" 🤣😂🤣😂

[@19katsandcounting]

Raylin tell my dad to stop showing up at my house unannounced after I’ve asked him repeatedly to call first and he can see it annoys me. I don’t know what is going through his head other than he must think I don’t deserve much respect,

[@Narya57]

@@19katsandcounting :D

[@Elimbi1]

Bro you're doing God's work

[@mrgilmore6953]

The ENTP heartless explanation is spot on. I've actually researched sociopaths/psychopaths before to see if I was one, and I wasn't so it was confusing. Thanks for the explanation so I can put that to rest.

[@4thNebula]

Useful and important video. Being INFP it seems developing Se (I call it the open door where anything can come in) is needed for personal success! Se trickster is judged heavily!

[@cityandgirl]

You are a very engaging lecturer! This kept my attention (no small feat believe me) and I learned a lot. Thank you for this and all your videos.

[@CSJoseph]

you are welcome!

[@firebirdwillgaming4193]

As an INTJ who really admire the japnese way of thinking, now that you mention it, it seams to be because of the point you said. And I especially like that Japan´s culture is often thinking about other peoples experiences, like not talking on the subway and etc. I guess I like it because it is a NT society.

[@underwaterpanther]

I Finally made it to the trickster!!! Wooooo!!! Been typing notes for a month now 😆 unbelievably appreciative dear soul! 🖤🔥

[@malcolmmacinnis247]

"I can emulate moral principles" Fi trickster everybody XD

[@austinwilliams8174]

Sweet, now I can explain how I have no idea what anyone is thinking 🤔 and do it again in the future forgetting that I have already told them why but doing it again because I still don’t know what they’re thinking # humiliation is the best.

[@dppool456]

As an INTP, I can come off as an out of control extrovert because I have no volume control, having an Se trickster. When someone says hi, I can´t reply loud enough to be heard usually, but once I do get talking, I get louder and louder until everyone is like ¨Dude, calm down. You´re being so loud.¨ And I´m like ¨Okay¨. 5 minutes later I´m cheerily yelling again, completely unaware unless again notified.

[@WillAshwell]

oh my god as an ESTP i was nodding along to everything ! hahahaha people always tell me i'm not moral but in reality its because i kinda...can't stand Fi. having a high Fi mom can be a drag sometimes. My dad is an ISTP , we always end up "insulting" her. oh well

[@nasciturusadvocatus124]

Mbti existentialism...Is this you before you realized youre an infj? Lmao

[@MrLuigiFercotti]

This is very enlightening to this Fi trickster victim. A former ESFJ boss made a lot of money, but he burned through it like no tomorrow. Then he was saying how he needed to make a bunch more to get ready for retirement. lol. Plus, this just nails my Dad with his Fe trickster. In social situations he will say really off-putting stuff, and doesn't get that others are groaning inside.

[@richa-157]

ENTPs are acquired taste in general . charming at first , then really mean and then really nice for ever after

[@3blame]

"you try... but you suck and it's probably not going to work" - CS Jose 4:13

[@lagerthalothbrok6082]

17:15 Te: input Ti: process Fe: output Fi: feedback

[@lintuindochine9458]

I've Se trickster and my relationship with it is basically me having no idea about the kind of experience I give to others. Normally what will happen is that I use my Te to compensate that. That's normally what happens with my physical apperance. As I don't have any idea about what kind of impression I'm producing, I try to be as clean and neutral as I can, sometines in a exagerate way because I don't want to be judged by anybody, ever xD Now I understand too why some people (I think mainly Fe dom/aux) got annoyed with me because I did something (which wasn't wrong in my own moral system) and I didn't realise that they were actually pissed off. (That happened with an enfj who didn't tell me what was wrong until I asked her. She was expecting me to know and I've just NO idea that the problem was that xD) PS: I'm clumsy as fuck as well, which is quite funny.

[@Lairenzo]

Put the light higher up so the shadows are less prevalent

[@CSJoseph]

yeah the studio is not built, I haven't deployed the softboxes

[@revermightstar8004]

I thought you're talking about intangible matters like cognitive functions or knowledge vs ignorance haha

[@lisalisa6821]

@@revermightstar8004 Me too lmao

[@saintcirone1]

ENTP here. Just found your content and ravaging it. Also intending to share it with those I'm 'loyal' to. Helpful for me, I hope helpful for them. Hope you keep doing what you're doing.

[@cherellemack736]

He does such a great job in his descriptions. I want to play these videos for my family showing them their personality. I'm going to be a pateron member.

[@sibestfunction4400]

my Te trickster husband OVEREXPLAINS hahaa makes sense now. love him!!

[@ashercorbett8089]

*talks about husband’s incessant jabbering* *realizes husband is behind her, reading this. Quickly types the last part*

[@akondayeelicerio8554]

As a fellow ENTP I appreciate you so much, i write a manga about an ENTP assassin in a early medieval fantasy world, who becomes a battlefield general eventually I started watching your channel and i understand why my storys so meaningful to me, and why i came up with the idea in the first place. Thank you so much😭

[@d899op90]

I come back to all these videos every once in a while to refresh my knowledge of all the cognitive functions. There is always more to learn! I have learned to read and research more, ask people for their thoughts, say things like “as we all know” when saying basic logical things, etc. It has really helped me be more mature and not come off as annoying all the time. More often than not Ive learned its better to keep Ti child silent and instead listen to the other person; finding the right moment to introduce that bit of helpful logical statement. Thank you

[@elisabethw9189]

Te trickster is created to take us out of the box! Look at the world, where has "common sense" taken us anyway.. Lets not settle for bread and circus - seriously :D

[@bafbaas1210]

Aren't Isfj's the most common type? They don't really seem out of the box honestly.

[@elisabethw9189]

@@bafbaas1210 True! I was only thinking about infjs when I made the comment... ;)

[@c.s.70]

@@bafbaas1210 Similarly but in a more limited way, ISFJ get told things but they usually go do things/think their own way even if it, in ISFJ's case it's more stubborn and sometimes illogical and within an established box of what's been done and what seems to work.

[@helenhelen5346]

I'm fairly sure I've not been able to sustain work in the past because a number of managers judged my less usual Se Trickster function, which really reduced my self confidence as a result. Thank you Chase for teaching the world what isn't being done correctly.

[@wilrose4473]

I'm INFP. I always get told to speak louder even with mic on during events. 😅 And when I was still a student I can clearly remember what my prof said to me, "What's the use of having a nice voice, if no one can hear you sing?"

[@heiro9611]

I’m glad I found out that the trickster was a thing. I’m not saying it isn’t important to develop, but I tried to overuse it. Before I found out about type I was sub-consciously trying to mirror the ENTJ type (I’m INFJ). Needless to say that didn’t necessarily work out for me, it just made me look like a massive idiot anytime I would try to argue with people. In knowing what my strengths are (Ti) I know how I should argue my point to people, rather than trying to pull statistics out of my ass that I heard on a KZbin video that didn’t actually take the time to research.

[@ilovesamyo]

phew thank goodness im not a rapist lol - istp

[@ladymoragsbootlaces8059]

Ahaha, I'm just glad I'm an asexual ISFP because otherwise managing the love scene with what I think their intentions are and what I don't realize their intentions are seems like a disaster waiting to happen lol

[@UrtepExela]

An immature INFJ here: Last year I went through 6 beliefs systems. Everyone was telling me that I was probably wrong and had no reason for believing as I did, but I wouldn't listen. It seemed so logical at the time. I stopped and gave up on belief systems because I realized that they would all seem logical and I could believe anything.

[@sientwa6102]

Wow that's so true. We should not - never ever judge someone else. 👍 Without first walking in their shoes and trying to understand the other person.

[@Atlas-ck9vm]

I think this channel is very underrated.

[@legendzfall]

Loved this content. INTJ here. Hope I can find more vids that explore the separate functions one at a time.

[@edwinortiz7114]

ENFP. I do think you are one of the best on youtube that I've found to explain the MBTI. Though, I dunno why ENTPs tend to rub me the wrong way, Haha : p. Still watch regularly :)...I identify with the statement that i believe anything can be true. You just need the right stats or perspective to support your argument. Psychology is definitely not in a state where we can confidently reject most null hypotheses. But I would not argue for just anything. I try to take into account the good/bad that any argument would cause for people. In my head I'm always arguing FOR people and never against. I make the assessment based on what I see the consequences of arguments to be. To me, logic does not matter if the argument will hurt others. Not that I want what I'm saying to be false, I just recognize the limits of logic and its potential to harm. Logic is not the end all be all. Honestly I think emotional harm should be considered just as much as logic when making decisions about social policy and research, which is my main interest...but you did say morality wasnt your type's strong suit so I get it I guess lol..I also value your genuineness I've got to say..I dont feel like I get to see that with ENTPs a whole lot..also liked the helping people with their blind spots bit. Very moral of you, intentional or not! Haha

[@CSJoseph]

obviously, I recommend watching my recnet lecture where I talk about Te input for Ti process.

[@ashercorbett8089]

You have logic…every human on earth is capable of logic LOL

[@ashercorbett8089]

Logic is not limited to a specific psychological archetype, and neither is morality 😂 Logic, morality, empathy, sympathy, logos, ethos, pathos, are accessible to every personality type.

[@mirkys130]

Time stamps would be useful

[@jonn_mace_80_95_]

I LOVE the theme of this video on how people need to humble themselves, so we could become more of a cohesive team who compensate each others weaknesses and blindspots. We humans as a species really were designed by the Creator to be social creatures, introverts included. I enjoyed your take about the field of psychology, unraveling the wonders and complexity of the human mind which God created, then apply that knowledge in healthy, balanced, mature ways regarding relationships. These are vital for humanity to evolve while giving glory to God who made us and bring us closer to Him. You're also right about how it's best that people avoid looking down on other people due to their shortcomings, when the very same people who hold their targets with contempt are guilty of having shortcomings themselves. There's a passage in the scriptures where Jesus warned everybody about the foolishness of hypocrisy. He said if a person criticizes someone else who have plank on their eyes, one must first remove the plank on his eyes or her eyes, in order for the critic to be taken seriously as being trustworthy concerning his/her criticism and full of integrity with pure intent. Another verse in the Holy Bible relevant to your lesson of this video is Matthew 20:26-27. Jesus explains how to achieve greatness on God's future heavenly kingdom that will eventually supplant the currently imperfect sinful world that exists, a person should have humility at fostering an attitude to think and behave like servant towards other poeple. Jesus is a role model for humankind to follow, because not only did he preach timeless virtues, he exemplified them from the way he humbly lived and offered himself as a sacrifical lamb to purify us and remove our sins (character flaws, wrongdoings, transgressions, wickedness, immorality, injustices, corruption, etc), long as sinners accept his gracious gift of salvation and to abide in His teachings + divine guidance. ~Me, a Christian INTJ male who often makes an effort to be a humble servant for my fellow neighbor since we ought to love our neighbors like we love ourselves as Jesus had done and commanded, because God first loved us, and always will.

[@synergyzer07]

I don’t like when you say that you are not a good person or a moral person. As an INTP, my Fi Demon is even lower than your Fi Trickster. But I’m a caring person because of my Fe (yours higher) and I care very much about the truth. And we get outraged about unfairness, since we are Crusaders. Therefore I think we - me and you - are pretty decent people. Isn’t it unhealthy for you to believe you are a bad person? You do an amazing job with your lectures, I’m very grateful to you. Don’t be that harsh on yourself!

[@magh7202]

Dude you‘re growing so fast! You might become one of the most influential people on earth with your knowledge. By the way something i‘ve noticed is that the critic function is used very much when people are unhappy or in an unhealthy situation. (Don‘t know if that‘s true tough haha)

[@CSJoseph]

it is yes, they become shadow focused and use the critic as their parent

[@aishaadam7473]

Yeah joseph, you should make clips at tiktok or other apps people use for fun so people share your videos…

[@Hawkenwhacker]

Very insightful. Thanks a lot. 5 years ago I was losing my daughter to adoption. Since the law was involved, I had no idea what to do. After it was all said and done, I signed something. The paper basically said by signing this, you (me) acknowledge that this girl was never your child. She looks so much like me it's not even funny so for them to think it's true is laughable so they can believe what they want despite the contrary. I still feel the effects of that day. Why fight against something I felt I wouldn't win? Because of this, I take with me that small amount of time I got to be with her. I love and miss her deeply. Talk about humbling. It was then that I had a dream of me being pulled into the black hole that you mentioned and I saw the cube (the earth) below my feet, or lack thereof, let alone the aftermath of my upbringing coming back into the forefront along with it. Talk about a destructive process and one I'm still, to this day, doing my best to handle and heal from. Sorry to get so personal about it but I thought it best represents what I got from this video. At the very least, I thought it was worth sharing.

[@Kiseochan]

"you try but you suck" Gah you're so right me heart hurts!!! *Dies*

[@clearwater1686]

Absolutely bang on preach against pride! Source of so much discord and pain. Acute observations and deductions. Best lecture I've heard from CSJ with lots of clues. Many thanks 💟 IXFJ still seeking my type

[@timothyo718]

So I wonder if a lot of those Ne trickster types are the ones that have been MeToo’d?

[@CSJoseph]

good point

[@milabellaful]

Your passion is unrivaled 😁

[@CSJoseph]

thanks ;)

[@colinnewey7965]

It is innocence(child) vs ignorance(trickster), by my understanding.

[@abesapien9930]

Though I am an ENFP, I was lucky enough to have so many INTJ and ENTP friends that beat it into my head that Ti matters, that a right and wrong answer exists. In fact, at this point, I find New Age wuuwuu discussions (often espoused by NF's) intolerable. When I ask for evidence for their beliefs or show opposing evidence, they give this really disingenuine smile that seems to says, "You're just not as wise as me. How narrow of you to see things in such black and white categories." Honestly, acknowledging what is true and false in my life has made me a happier, more level-headed ENFP. If I only had my Ne and emotions to navigate life, I'd be a full screw-up instead of just the slight screw-up I am today. ;)

[@celeste491]

For ISTPs: I was thinking about how we can emulate Ne trickster and came to the conclusion that we should ALWAYS do 2 things: 1) protect ourselves reasonably (without building walls) and 2) assume the best in people less Se parent gives definitive proof otherwise. For situations with high value/risk transactions on the line also add 3) consider everything the other party may have to gain/lose in each scenario. - From an ISTP who’s dealt with social anxiety for all her 20’s (living in fear of what others think) and who was raised by an ISTP father who’s had many people take advantage of him and his business. Thank you Chase this was a much needed video! 💙🙏🌟✨

[@CSJoseph]

You should also watch how to social engineer ISTPs so you know what to be on guard for.

[@kakashiomar5067]

I'm an istj and i have a well developed Fe Trickster My mom is ENFJ and i learned a lot about social norms and empathy from her when i use it sometimes it seems fake ,but most of the time I'm very considerate of others feelings. People around me find it comfortable when they talk to me because i pay attention and listen to them carefully. It takes a lot of mental energy But at least people like me and I'm not a dick to them 2w3 istj here

[@xandirkuro4790]

30:10 "Lacking the wrong input..." I think that is a good thing XD

[@cradleofcivilization3144]

I don't understand how you have Se demon, yet you provide good experience for everybody watching your videos!

[@Jess-yv7zc]

Awesome. Love it. You're wicked smart and super helpful. So an INTP should show people (in the workplace) with bad long-term memories ways to keep track of things rather than sighing and constantly fixing things or doing it for them? Lol the tricks I use to aid my non-existant short-term memory would probably work for these people as well.

[@CNoble-md7ro]

I'm probably getting annoying with all these random comments, but you've really broken down cognitive functions in a way that makes psychology so easy to understand. I don't know how you know so much (you probably explained in a video I haven't watched yet) but it's really incredible. You've done a lot of videos in such a short amount of time, just remember to take it easy so you don't stress yourself out. 😊

[@malcolmmacinnis247]

You're the person I hear the most

[@elisabethschlarb3059]

Ooh the Critic and Trickster videos are the best! Like you say, it's like how to reach enlightenment (huge goal for me!) by becoming humble and wise and exactly how to do that. Thank you so much 💕

[@CSJoseph]

The inferior and nemesis are the gateway functions that help you reach enlightenment, this is in Season 19 inside the Discover bundle for each type.

[@sibestfunction4400]

Ti tricksters makes sure Ti heroes stay down to earth. if we Ti heroes with our magic gravity boots have them set to "ceiling = floor" then yeah we can bolt everything to the freaking ceiling and go about our lives indoors but Ti trickster says "haha the sun is in the ground check it out" and it helps us reset even though it may be the most frustrating sentence possible to hear ♡

[@wewjoj]

I just took my 100th page of notes on C.S. Joseph's lectures.

[@generalpatton838]

30:37 So true! I keep telling my ISFJ mom that she has a serious messiness problem that's chronic who always blames she's "out of energy" or that she "doesn't have enough storage space" whenever I confront her with this life-long issue by telling her that "it takes just as much of an effort to make a mess as it does cleaning it up" and not to "buy/have so much stuff" and she would have more storage space. Therefore, she can't use those excuses but she does not see that rationale because of Te Trickster. I'm going to show her this video.

[@fikretdemir4818]

C.S. Joseph out of context (24:23): "I have no moral principles."

[@dennisjonker4804]

Ah. I found it. I really appreciate your part about Fe Trickster. Also amusing (and true) :)

[@fenrirsilver6441]

When describing the ENFP's blind spot, in some ways I sort of connected, because of my own idea on morality... however, when you got to talking about the ENTP's blind spot, I think I realized I was using Ti to make a moral compass by trying to solve the problem of evil. I have always thought I was an ENTP, but every so often I have the thought of maybe, just maybe I am either an INTP or an ENFP. This is interesting though, using Ti as a sort of moral compass by trying to logically solve a moral problem instead.

[@freezeblaster15]

I love your shoutouts 🤗 you're more than an amazing human being. Truly you are a gift to humanity Chase. That being said, I challenge you to test my Ti somehow. I think I'd surprise you ;)

[@wonderfulrafita]

You stimulate my trickster function so much. Yummy. Thank you.

[@shaneaverystarr]

Helpful information! Happy I was able to find this video!

[@jonyngvesyland5461]

Thank you for branching out on the colours Mr. Chase.