What is the difference? Ford Super Duty F250 vs F350! - Super Duty Build | Part 11

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@kellybell9235
@kellybell9235 4 жыл бұрын
This is so easy! the difference is 100!
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Haha like it!!
@shouldigetit
@shouldigetit 4 жыл бұрын
hahahaha I love this Kelly! Best comment I've ever seen on KZbin
@LHP0120
@LHP0120 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@OscarGarcia-jo7ks
@OscarGarcia-jo7ks 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to leave a like but then it would of been 101 likes and you said 100😂😂
@chichijima4257
@chichijima4257 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@WeThePeopleUSA
@WeThePeopleUSA Жыл бұрын
Very well done. Great pace, great energy. I only wanted to know the info about the rear end but was absolutely engaged the entire video & learned so much!
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the kind words. Thank you
@djjf45
@djjf45 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. There are LOTS OF US out here maintaining complicated spreadsheets with what years have which axles, rear ends, transmissions, frame construction, etc. The manufacturers make it nearly impossible to get the info. Most of us have MORE info than the dealers know, and quite frankly it's the reason people buy the wrong vehicle and end up unsafe. Bottom line for the manufacturers if you are listening, we care! If there are differences in the design/build of the 10 speed transmission in 2 different configs, or frame reinforcements, etc for example... make the info available for informed buying decisions! Appreciate the video!
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
Well stated. Unfortunately, the 2nd hand market is more savvy regarding components. Sure would be nice if manufacturers make detailed specification sheets available...
@rogerthat117
@rogerthat117 3 жыл бұрын
Great place for one of my all time favorite quotes “it’s what we don’t know we don’t know”
@chrisncars317
@chrisncars317 2 жыл бұрын
What’s a reliable forum I can look into to gain more knowledge on the differences between them. I am in the market for a used truck and want to figure out what’s the best configuration to look for
@tdibent1
@tdibent1 3 жыл бұрын
The 6R140 is a durable transmission. We have three in our fleet, used to toe in excess of 10,000 lbs. Never had a problem, no overheating. Our 2015 F250 w/ 6.7l diesel has over 375,000, sill pulls strong. Hope the 10R140 proves as reliable.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
That's excellent. Thanks for sharing!!
@SuperNova-..-
@SuperNova-..- Жыл бұрын
In your humble opinion, what are the best years for f250/350's? Found a 2015 with 100k.miles (350 gas). I've seen this back and forth battle over fuel vs diesel. It's a tough decision.
@shaneglidewell4871
@shaneglidewell4871 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect summation of the differences. Thank you! Confirms for me that the 250 is what I’ll be ordering. Thank you for taking the time to create this. Perfect.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful. Appreciate you sharing!
@rickmatz4456
@rickmatz4456 4 жыл бұрын
Get the 350. Insurance will be half the cost. Better resale. If getting the gas. Order the low gears.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
@@rickmatz4456 Good advice on the 4.30 gears with gas motor. Great low cost, high value option. Insurance varies by state so really need to check. Resale difference is similar to price difference. Thanks for sharing!
@bigbarrettbob
@bigbarrettbob 2 жыл бұрын
F350 has much better resale value and more capability in general. It's silly to get a F250 and I work for Ford.
@omarscomingyo651
@omarscomingyo651 2 жыл бұрын
He really did his homework before buying that beauty 👍🏻🇺🇸 great detail explaining!
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Thanks for watching
@WALL-E559
@WALL-E559 3 жыл бұрын
The biggest difference I see between the two trucks is payload capacity. Depending on the configuration, you can get an additional 1,000lbs of payload capacity. Payload capacity jumps significantly for the DWR option (7,500lbs).
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, and I agree you get a significant bump going to the DRW.
@WALL-E559
@WALL-E559 2 жыл бұрын
@@southerncatlady6680 Dual Rear Wheels
@walttrotter535
@walttrotter535 4 жыл бұрын
Still have my '02 F250 with 240K on the V10 gasser. Been a great truck. Replaced the transmission, radiator and wear items. Towed my boat all over
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
That's excellent. Great service use for sure!
@davidcassity6593
@davidcassity6593 4 жыл бұрын
I have an 01 F250 with a V 10 gas. Only issues I've had it burns oil. 160k, and I've put them all on it. Pulled my camper, boat and now my tractor. Pulls great
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidcassity6593 That's excellent! Great work truck.
@walttrotter535
@walttrotter535 4 жыл бұрын
@@TruckCamper I should say I did have a spark plug blow out of the head in the middle of the Utah desert with a boat in tow on way to Lake Powell, Very expensive repair
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
@@walttrotter535 That's a bummer deal. My understanding is that issue was resolved on the later models?
@MrJLB1977
@MrJLB1977 4 жыл бұрын
It's all in the leaf springs folks, that easy.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Mostly true.
@donmcmannamy3409
@donmcmannamy3409 4 жыл бұрын
Also the mounting of the bed to the frame
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
@@donmcmannamy3409 How is it different?
@donmcmannamy3409
@donmcmannamy3409 4 жыл бұрын
@@TruckCamper depending on the year the number of mounting points and or the grade of the nuts and bolts that are used
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
@@donmcmannamy3409 We are only focusing on the 2017+. So would need to verify for current generation trucks... sounds interesting
@frankmehaffey9293
@frankmehaffey9293 4 жыл бұрын
I have had 3 Ford F250's for over 20 years. If you look at ordering brakes, the replacement brakes for 250 and 350 are the same for the 99, 2004 and 2012. The camper package, 2WD, puts 350 coils up front and an overload on the rear leafs. The camper package also has a higher amp rating regulator into the 7 pin trailer plug. Ford won't say what. Puzzling. On our present 250, I have an aftermarket Hellwig big ass rear anti sway, which is much better than stock anti sway, when you have a 2300 lb. TC on the back with another 5-700 lbs. of load. The 350 has one more leaf on rear. We put Airlift 5000's on rear which work great to raise back a little, but mostly gives better ride. We prefer 2WD to keep load rating higher. . The info you provided about the labels load ratings being there for private vs. commercial was new. Verrrry interesting. To me, the Sterling vs. Dana differences seem to be made for off road, or extreme heavy commercial pulling. I drive very gently with the camper on, and have NEVER had any drivetrain problems with the 250. Synthetic lubricants all the way thru, changed often. The stock shocks are exactly the same ride control as Bilsteins for 2WD. Rancho's are better loaded bounce control. We have had 170,000 miles on the '99, 75,000 miles on the '04 and 230,000 on the '10. About 25% of the milage on all have been with camper on. The Ford 2-350 are excellent platforms, and why manufacturers play a shell game with specific mechanical and electrical info is a mystery to me.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Great info! Thanks for sharing your experiences!!
@GetErDun8445
@GetErDun8445 4 жыл бұрын
In FL the tags cost $50 more per year between the F250 and F350. The weight limit is set at 10K.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Thanks for sharing!
@MudFoot64
@MudFoot64 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a 2020 F250 with the 6.2 diesel back in November, it's a beast. I've had GMC vehicles in the past , always 1500s, our local GMC didn't even have a 2500 on the lot when we began shopping. I had truck fever so waiting wasn't an option, we looked at Rams and Fords. We went with the Ford mainly because we were told they held their value much better. I'm so happy things worked like they did, I couldn't be happier with the truck. The best truck I've ever had , I love this truck. Like I said, it's a beast with power to spare.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Glad it worked out well. I agree the Ford is an excellent product for HD truck world. Thanks for sharing!
@mattsbrute
@mattsbrute 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you seen the light. We have a new Ford guy on our team. Haha
@andydouglass1374
@andydouglass1374 4 жыл бұрын
In CA (of course) 3/4 ton trucks are considered commercial by the DMV as well. In my experience (personal and anecdotal), CA drivers can expect to pay around $300 annually to register a 1/2 ton (non-commercial), $800 to register a 3/4 ton. and $1500 to register a 1 ton. The cost of registration for 1 tons is anecdotal info from a friend of mine, but it does not surprise me as the state will squeeze you any way they can. CA will allow you to reduce your commercial registration to non-commercial registration if you promise to keep a truck camper on the truck full-time. If you do this to save $500-$1200 a year in registration, but dare to ever remove the camper and get caught by CHP, you will be fined heavily. Another fun CA thing: New gas vehicles are exempt from smog testing for the first 6 years. New diesels are not allowed this exemption. So in addition to having to have complicated exhaust systems with enough tech to launch a space shuttle, new diesel owners will have to start smogging their new trucks the second year they own it. This is most likely a way to stick it to the guys who delete their diesel exhaust systems. So like many things in CA, the majority of new diesel owners who leave their exhaust stock have to pay more so the state can catch a few eco-criminals. But wait, there's more....if you have a new diesel and don't want to smog it, you can pay a low low fee of just $25 bucks to bypass the need to smog it. So the end result of a program purported to require people to pay a privately owned auto shop to test their emissions for $50-$100 can opt out of the test by sending $25 directly to the state so they can spend it on "pollution mitigation", which I'm sure does not involve croneyism and corrupt private contractor selections in any way, at all, whatsoever. Anyone who does not live in CA should look carefully at what has happened here and pay very close attention to what is on their ballots. These bureaucratic false-logic loops govern just about every aspect of life here, and the only thing they are effective at doing is siphoning off money from the people.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Lots of great info! Will never live in Cali... love to visit. Thanks for sharing!
@banger881
@banger881 4 жыл бұрын
I unfortunately live in LA and he is telling you the truth I have 2017 ford f350 6.7 powerstroke
@errolpoxleitner7901
@errolpoxleitner7901 4 жыл бұрын
Keep supporting those democrates they like your money.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
@@errolpoxleitner7901 haha - they need more!
@andydouglass1374
@andydouglass1374 4 жыл бұрын
@@errolpoxleitner7901 Not for long...we will be out of CA before the end of the year.
@sarahseevinck8470
@sarahseevinck8470 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!! we are shopping and couldn't figure out the difference!
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper Жыл бұрын
You Bet! Ford should really list the differences.
@bluecollarwatches7048
@bluecollarwatches7048 3 жыл бұрын
With my f250 6.7 I had to register it to what weight I would pull, I didn’t go full towing weight but went high enough for when we upgrade to a 5th wheel. The powerstroke is an absolute beast for towing, love it.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
What state are you in? 6.7L is a beast
@bluecollarwatches7048
@bluecollarwatches7048 3 жыл бұрын
@@TruckCamper Delaware
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
@@bluecollarwatches7048 Interesting how different states are!
@skyking4501
@skyking4501 3 жыл бұрын
The salesman will tell you that a 350 will pull more than a 250 and all this information has been my argument from the start on the diesel units. Change leaf springs and its no difference. Same engine same transmission. Way less money.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
Sales people need to get educated. Ford specs show the SRW F250 / F350 (bumper pull) is the same for most configurations with slight variations. Rather interesting...
@ryanm540
@ryanm540 3 жыл бұрын
The dually and the springs/blocks are a major difference. With the diesel the 350 is rated to tow 24,000 with bumper pull vs 19,000 for the 250. Big difference, especially if you’re doing dump trailer type work or don’t want to use a GN or 5th wheel to pull a camper. The dually’s allow for the higher axle ratio not to mention more ground contact for more secure towing. If you’re gonna haul real stuff than get the 350 dually. It won’t even start to feel funny while you’re behind the wheel, it’ll just take it like it’s not there
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. And I'd suggest that the F350 should only come in a dually. Seems redundant to offer the F250/F350 in SRW. Thanks for sharing!
@Humblescape
@Humblescape 3 жыл бұрын
The GVWR will legally allow you to haul/load more. If you upgrade your f250 that’s awesome but your still bound by the GVWR it won’t increase your capacity and your subject to fines at a DOT inspection/weigh station.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
True. However, non commercial vehicles unlikely to be weighed. It's always best practice to stay within GVWR.
@chrisbland5657
@chrisbland5657 3 жыл бұрын
@@TruckCamper Completely agree with @Humblescape here. You have to abide by the registered GVWR of the truck even if upgrading all the right parts to allow you to tow/haul more. Even if non-commercial vehicles are "unlikely" to be weighed, the issue becomes apparent if you are involved in an accident and it is determined that vehicle overload was suspected in causing the accident. You could potentially be facing severe fines and/or jail time. Always stay within the registered GVWR. With that said, why would you upgrade suspension parts to more heavy duty if the goal is not to tow/haul more?
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbland5657 Simple. Stock suspension on either truck is terrible! I'd upgrade either one. I'm not recommending to be unsafe or overload. The point is that the truck difference is mostly a sticker and governmental rating rather than capability or component differences. Staying within sticker doesn't guarantee safety. Realistically these trucks need upgrades to handle the rated weights safely (in my opinion).
@geneh831
@geneh831 4 жыл бұрын
nice video. When it first started, I was like why is Pete Rose doing youtube reviews? LOL
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks!
@jeffclark4008
@jeffclark4008 3 жыл бұрын
If Pete Rose and Ashton Kutcher had a baby… .
@wayneblanchard4347
@wayneblanchard4347 3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking at the Ford website maximum loaded trailer weight charts for the F250 (p.25) and F350 (p.27). For the Crew Cab, 4x2, 6 3/4 box, max wt. carrying is the same for the 6.2L engine and 3.73 axle ratio. SAME? GCWR Combined weight of vehicle and trailer SAME? Actual numbers depend on individual truck trims, of course. Am I understanding this to mean no difference in this engine/axle ratio tow capacity for the F250 and F350 for the 6.2L gas with 3.73 axle ratio?
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
That is correct. These trucks really could be the same. Biggest difference is that F350 can increase the GVWR to 11,800. Where F250 is 10k. This is mostly due to truck classification and certain states require F350 to be commercial. But your actual components are nearly all the same. You can option an F250 to have the exact same parts as the F350 (3" receiver hitch and extra leaf spring). Rather interesting and confusing!!
@wayneblanchard4347
@wayneblanchard4347 3 жыл бұрын
@@TruckCamper So, it's the F350 bolt on capacity that may or may not make it beefier? Even that seems to take a fair amount of study for us not-so-mechanically inclined. All the other internet reviews mention range of potential load capacities as the difference in the F250 and F350. But if you look at similarly outfitted F250 and F350 they are remarkably equal.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
@@wayneblanchard4347 Most focus on the GVWR differences which is a sticker. This video was focused on actual physical differences which is very little... and depending on configuration you get the same ratings.
@crazyhass84
@crazyhass84 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, the 6.7l diesel f250 comes standard with the STERLING AXLE! that has the 10k gvwr! If u get the heavy duty tow option u get the dana axle! Which has 10800 gvwr! Which is the f350 axle and springs. So the f250 can be optioned with a 350 axle and springs. The tires become the limitation at that point. The 250 has 65psi. F350 comes with same tire but 80psi. Hence f250 with 10800 gvwr vs f350 11400. All with the same axle and springs! This is why u see 90% f250 sold. This trick keeps the insurance down for owner.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Good info. Thanks for sharing!
@crazyhass84
@crazyhass84 4 жыл бұрын
@@charlesgoehring3445 nothing to do with damage potential. Its all about responsibility! If u r over loaded vs truck specs they can denie your claim.
@birdlady2725
@birdlady2725 3 жыл бұрын
Can you get E rated tires? They are designed for towing and mine run 80 psi... I even put e rated tires on mini van I tow a cargo trailer - 50psi vs. 35psi regular tire pressure.
@stepabove2136
@stepabove2136 4 жыл бұрын
Well so far this has been hands down best video on this subject.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Very kind. Really appreciate it. :)
@billbenn401
@billbenn401 Жыл бұрын
You did good on the comparisons of F250 & F350 except 1 major difference is the brakes. F350 has a heavier duty brake system when carrring heavy loads is very important.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper Жыл бұрын
Not true. Only the Dually F350 has different brakes and only in the rear (different axle). Front is the same high pinion Dana60 either way.
@danieloliver20
@danieloliver20 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a F250 2020 6.7L diesel 4x4 in July. There were NO F350s to be had in SoCal because of Covid19, and very few F250s. After seeing your video I'm glad we didn't spend the extra for it, thanks for your info!
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Very welcome! Crazy how limited information is available about actual differences. Thanks for sharing!
@danieloliver20
@danieloliver20 4 жыл бұрын
@@TruckCamper it's great to know its basically one extra leaf spring and the f350 badge that's different on my f250 👍
@byronlemay2166
@byronlemay2166 Жыл бұрын
I had a '21 F-350 with a camper on it similar to yours. It was totaled in an horrific accident. I'm going to be buying a new rig, but this time I'm going with the 250 like you did...primarily because I'll replace the springs. The only other difference between these two trucks aside from those you pointed out is the trailer hitch. The ones on the 350 is considerably more stout...class 5.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper Жыл бұрын
You are correct. It may be possible to configure the F250 with the bigger hitch but I haven't played with the build configuration for a bit. Good feedback. 👍
@serohaguju1054
@serohaguju1054 3 жыл бұрын
Just fyi 17-19 you only get the Dana on the f250 if you have the heavy tow package that includes a extra spring otherwise you get the 10.5 even on the diesel
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
True! And the Sterling 10.5" has been used in all the pre-2017 trucks and is a stout axle. Really not something to complain about. I looked up the axle load rating and it was 9,500lbs. Not shabby! Dana should be a great axle too. Thanks for sharing
@PowerstrokeSynd
@PowerstrokeSynd 4 жыл бұрын
My 2017 F250 came with a "Camper Package". 4 leaf springs and a sway bar in the rear.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
That's the same spring setup as the F350 with the sway bar. Thanks for confirming.
@rontopping2048
@rontopping2048 2 жыл бұрын
Single rear wheel diesel not available in low gear ratio like gas , usually diesel has 355 gears . Gas can be purchased with 373, 410, 430 . Also f350 srw . can be ordered with 10k gvw or 11500 gvw . Which changes size of axles and springs.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Although either F250 or F350 SRW can have the exact same parts depending on options. The real difference like you pointed out is the ability to get the higher GVWR sticker on the F350. Rather interesting
@panthermartin7784
@panthermartin7784 4 жыл бұрын
If you spec a 250 with a snow plow package or heavy camper package its basically a 350 and cheaper to insure, do it all the time.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
That's what I don't get. Why not just make the F350 a dually? Components can be the same depending on configuration. Thanks for sharing!
@ryanwayne7135
@ryanwayne7135 4 жыл бұрын
Snow plow package only gives you a larger alternator, heavier spec front springs and cold weather package (engine block heater)
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
@@ryanwayne7135 Thanks for clarifying! Appreciate the contributions.
@panthermartin7784
@panthermartin7784 4 жыл бұрын
@@ryanwayne7135 mine came with all that and upgraded rear over load springs which visually is very different from a reg spec 250
@ryanwayne7135
@ryanwayne7135 4 жыл бұрын
@@panthermartin7784 then that may have come that way with anticipation of putting a sander/salter in the rear. There are a couple spec packages/options you can get.
@TheGadgetwiz
@TheGadgetwiz 3 жыл бұрын
Now you should compare the ‘22 Tremor 6.7 250 and 350. They are 100% identical except for the sticker and the badge.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
Good idea... But finding inventory is the difficulty. Just locating one is a challenge. Will see! :)
@jesseleon4501
@jesseleon4501 4 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t til the third “second reason” I realized you’re messin with us.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Talking is hard.. :)
@marktadlock5428
@marktadlock5428 2 жыл бұрын
Wired my super duty had a Dana 80 front axle. With the triton 5.4. 4x4, drove it for285k before trading it in no complaints great truck
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 2 жыл бұрын
That's great service use. Very nice
@thomasrussell5562
@thomasrussell5562 Ай бұрын
I know this is many moons since this video was first posted but just for quality information sake this needs to be addressed - no your truck did NOT come with a Dana 80 front axle. It’s alright to be mistaken but to help others trying to research info these blatant statements must be addressed. The only front axles used in the Ford S/D line up were early Dana 50’s in SRW trucks and eventually upgraded to Dana 60’s in SRW like the DRW front axles with some F-350’s having an optional Super 60 like the 450/550 S/D’s. Later on from 2017 onwards an option on the F-450/550/600’s is the Dana Super 70. There was never a factory Dana 80 FRONT axle application - there is however an aftermarket Dana 80 but never an OEM item. Also, it would be nice to update the video on the discrepancy on the Sterling v/s Dana rear axles - it’s easy enough to verify and posting correct information should be priority even if it’s after the fact.
@jonmaciel4696
@jonmaciel4696 3 жыл бұрын
It’s about time ford got rid of that sterling axle it was just a weak axle in my opinion when it came down to towing but now that they upgraded to a Dana rear axle I’ve driven the trucks at my job with the new Dana axle and they just has more pulling power from the bottom end and what’s crazy is that the truck lugs in 6 gear even going up hill with about 22,000 pounds behind it and has enough torque to just pull through thanks to that bigger ring ratio. When it came down to towing Gm and ram trucks where always my preference not just cause of the AAM rear axle which is a strong axle for towing but gm trucks and Ram’s transmission’s actually downshift well and properly and have a good exhaust brake
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience! Ford is still using the Sterling axle but the Dana axle is included with the diesel and F350 versions. The Sterling axle has been around for a long time and certainly isn't weak with a 9,500lb load rating. However the Dana axle is much beefier. I agree that having the 4.30 axle gear option factory is excellent. Have you had issues with the Sterling axle failing?
@podpindosnic
@podpindosnic Жыл бұрын
Excellent review man.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper Жыл бұрын
Thanks! :)
@colinwatt00
@colinwatt00 4 жыл бұрын
F250 has two axle options - standard axle is 3.5” Sterling and if you select the ‘Axle Upgrade/Heavy Duty Tow Pkg’ you get the 4” Dana M275 that is standard on the F350. This pkg also includes the 3” receiver instead of the 2.5”. The purpose of this upgrade for F250 is that it increases payload ~700lbs depending on your configuration. E.g., 2020 F250 Platinum = ~1,900lbs payload standard & ~2,600lbs with the axle upgrade. In my opinion, every F250 should be equipped with the M275 because it increases your payload and towing capacity while maintaining the softer ride characteristics of the F250 (2-leaf main springs vs. 3-lead main springs on an F350). However, if you are going to be towing a fifth-wheel, it’s likely an F350 will be what you require due to most pin weights being 2,000+lbs prior to adding batteries, generator, water, and trailer contents. Keep in mind an F350 SRW Platinum has a payload of ~3,300lbs.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Good info... the interesting thing is the Sterling axle is rated to carry 9,700lb load. So way over how Ford rates it. Both axles are overkill for how Ford rates payloaf.
@colinwatt00
@colinwatt00 4 жыл бұрын
@@TruckCamper I’ve updated my previous comment, but I would refrain from making statements such as ‘overkill’. That’s entirely subjective and the axles ratings are derived from many factors including safety and reliability. Can you put 5,000lbs in a standard F250? Yes. There are videos on KZbin of exactly that, but just because you can doesn’t mean you should.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
@@colinwatt00 Good point. Use your best judgement especially if heavily loaded.
@ericmatos1025
@ericmatos1025 3 жыл бұрын
Did you mention the hitch receiver? F250 standard is a 2.5” hitch receiver and f350 standard is 3” hitch receiver. The high capacity towing package on the f250 that requires the Diesel engine upgrade includes a 3” hitch receiver.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
Correct. You can get either hitch with the F250. But 3" is standard on F350. Thanks!
@jeremypcp
@jeremypcp 2 жыл бұрын
The most common difference between 3/4 Ton and 1 Ton trucks from all the different manufacturers all the way back to the late 80s has been the rear leaf pack is designed to handle more payload (more leafs or a different pack all together). There sometimes is alittle different gear ratios, but allways the rear leafs packs
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 2 жыл бұрын
That is a common difference. But every manufacturer is different and the differences change depending on the year. The current 2017+ Super Duty can essentially be the same (even the leaf springs) depending on options. Biggest difference is the sticker GVWR being over or under 10k. Thanks for sharing!
@joeallison2779
@joeallison2779 3 жыл бұрын
Better late than never on my part but a good comparison review kudos
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!
@dragonpens72
@dragonpens72 3 жыл бұрын
The F350 has the limited slip rear end. It doesn't sound like much, but when you are in snow country like I am, it's noticeable and helps quite a lot.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
@@dragonpens72 Not all of them have LSD... they can be open or elocker too. Same as the F250. The factory elocker is the best option! Works in 2wd too
@markcaruso815
@markcaruso815 4 жыл бұрын
Good job I think you might have changed my mind. I'm in the market for a new truck I was thinking about the F350. I need to rethink that thank you keep up the good work
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Very welcome! It's good to be educated on the components/parts that make the truck. Thanks for sharing!
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
@@charlesgoehring3445 Most of it is not. There are no detail specs on model of transmission, axles or drivetrain differences. They would be wise to show exact differences.
@tdibent1
@tdibent1 3 жыл бұрын
@@TruckCamper Agree. I opted for the F350 as I wanted the heavier duty transmission 10R140.
@jimboh8591
@jimboh8591 2 ай бұрын
You can use more lighting underneath the truck when you're showing it off.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 2 ай бұрын
Very true. We have a limited budget. Basically do these videos for free to help people.
@leolopez9426
@leolopez9426 4 жыл бұрын
Just researched the hell out of this question and bought a 6.7L F250 with high capacity towing option which from what I can tell, makes it an F350 in terms of actual performance. The high capacity towing option adds the 350's larger axle, spring pack, and 3" receiver. Ford's rated GCWR are the same at 30,000 lbs, but 5th wheel/gooseneck rating is still about 2,000 lbs less on the F250. Not sure why. I just couldn't find a 2020 F350 with all the specs I wanted AND $8K under MSRP.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
F350 will get over the 10k GVWR. So basically you're talking a sticker as the components are the same. This causes lots of online debate. Fact is it's the same truck essentially. For some, ratings matter more than substance...
@donoberloh
@donoberloh 4 жыл бұрын
Overloading or over towing an F250 will always brake down sooner than a F350.
@alexmuela92
@alexmuela92 4 жыл бұрын
Nope the axle only gets bigger with the dual rear wheel. Both 250 and 350 single rear are the same except for the additional leaf
@SticksBlog
@SticksBlog 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexmuela92 I have a 2022 F250 6.7L on order and the rear axle is not the same as what comes standard on a F350. As Leo Lopez note above , the F250 comes standard with the Sterling 10.5 unless you add the HCTT package, which then upgrades the rear axle to what is found on the stock F350. I know that this is also true for the 2021 F250's too.
@donniemelton6132
@donniemelton6132 3 жыл бұрын
The 2000 lb difference for the fifth wheel is the added weight for the Diesel option.
@robertcompton8712
@robertcompton8712 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a 2020 F350 SRW short bed Supercab 4WD. In a 6.75 foot bet pickup, you can spec 11,400# GVWR with the diesel engine in a F 350, but limited to 9990# in a F250 or F350 gasser. With the Camper Package, GVWR increases to 11,500#. I have a truck camper and the additional payload was worth the price difference. With an 8 foot bed, you can get up to 11,500# GVWR with any engine, but I did not want the 8 foot bed.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Good info! Thanks for sharing!!
@mrat455
@mrat455 4 жыл бұрын
My 2020 F250 Supercab 148" wb 6.75 bed with max tow has 10800 GVWR.
@BigInjun05
@BigInjun05 4 жыл бұрын
Great video exactly what I was looking for. Now I know the 7.3 I ordered has the upgraded rear end.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Glad it was helpful!
@bsto5000
@bsto5000 4 жыл бұрын
I bought an F350 and never looked back. I can tell you its a world of difference!!!! F350 is a beast!!!!!
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it is working well for you.
@conardlinton7458
@conardlinton7458 4 жыл бұрын
I ordered a 2020 F-250 7.3 gas 4.30 gears. Then decided I needed more payload just in case I get a heavier RV so I order a F-350 identical to the F-250. When they came in the 250 had 2935 lbs. of payload the 350 has 4364 1429 lbs difference not bad.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! That's a huge jump in payload. It's nice to have the higher weight sticker... although crazy the only difference to carry the load is the leaf springs. Very interesting. Thanks for sharing!
@atvtinker01
@atvtinker01 4 жыл бұрын
It's more than just the springs. The axles and bearings are heavier in the F350 than the F250.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
@@atvtinker01 Front axle is exactly the same. Rear is the same unless you get the 6.2L which has the "smaller" Sterling 10.5. The Sterling axle is far from weak the manufacturer Visteon rates it to carry a max load of 9,750 lbs. Way over any weight rating limits that Ford gives. There just isn't much different between the two models anymore. Both have massive capacities...
@ozzy1398
@ozzy1398 4 жыл бұрын
@@atvtinker01 😂😂😂 you for real dude??
@atvtinker01
@atvtinker01 4 жыл бұрын
@@ozzy1398 Dude pull the hub caps off both and tell me you don't see a difference. Dana 60s on the F350.
@garyeckler2425
@garyeckler2425 3 жыл бұрын
I would have appreciated if you could have mentioned the older models specs....my truck is a 2015 F350 diesel. The 6.7 diesel has been used since 2011.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
Each generation is a bit different... may do more videos comparing the different years and models. Thanks for the suggestion
@lordrichard8184
@lordrichard8184 4 жыл бұрын
I heard the basic difference was the rear spring pack and differential. Other then that they’re identical trucks. As a result of the different rear springs and gears the 350 has a higher payload Also if you’re going to go with an f350 dually. You might want to get an f450 dually. Because the 450 has a wide track front axle and has a tighter turning radius
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
That's a decent summary. I agree I'd buy an F450 before F350. Better turning radius
@semajniffirg230
@semajniffirg230 3 жыл бұрын
the only difference between a 17+ f250 and f350 with the same drivetrain and options is the rear leaf spring packs, the gvwr, and the badges. That is it! In states where they crack down on over 10k gvw's requiring commercial plates, dot #'s, etc. the f250 is a way for people to get around the bullshit as it has a 10k gvw, otherwise I'd always just get the F350. I live in MA and didn't want to deal with falling under DOT inspections and crap so I got an F250 so I could keep regular passenger plates on it. The 6.2L and 6R100 has been very good for everything I've done with it. In MA now, if your over 10k, you have to have commercial plates with higher yearly fees, fall under expensive DOT inspections, commercial insurance, DOT numbers, and you have to be able to have a DOT medical card. Even though I have no medical issues, It's an insane hassle and too much $$ maintaining all of that unless you really need it. The true capabilities of an F250/F350 can be really close with the right options and a few mods.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
Well stated... but you can get the same springs as the F350 with the camper package on the F250. Mostly just a governmental difference than component difference. Thanks for sharing!
@danielc5205
@danielc5205 4 жыл бұрын
The biggest changes are between the SRW and DRW one ton models.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Dually is significantly different
@snakeater1976
@snakeater1976 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome information. I have a 2018 F250 6.2L STX. I want to do the F350 Leaf suspension upgrade. Do you have another video of your upgrade?
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Yep... we have videos on all the truck modifications: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6G7ZGWfpMSbbLs
@johnkraft5640
@johnkraft5640 4 жыл бұрын
Brakes are usually thicker, larger on the F 350. This was the case 5 years ago
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to verify! Thanks for sharing!
@brentstouffer7365
@brentstouffer7365 4 жыл бұрын
only on the dually
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
@@brentstouffer7365 Appreciate the clarification!
@semajniffirg230
@semajniffirg230 3 жыл бұрын
The brakes on the SRW trucks are all the same.
@frankp.9655
@frankp.9655 Жыл бұрын
Great Video, How about a 2012 F-350 Super Duty 6.7L Diesel is it the M275 10.5" Dana 60
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper Жыл бұрын
Believe that generation used the Sterling axle for both SRW F250 and F350. Front has been high pinion D60 for both trucks for many years
@babbledmuch
@babbledmuch 4 жыл бұрын
Should call out payload capability per trim/cab/bed/engine level. They usually just advertise the MAX, but in general the MAX is when it is a gas engine, regular cab with an XL or XLT trim level. As you work up through trims for comforts / features it goes down. For example I looked at Crew Cab Long Bed Ford F350 diesel Lariat fully loaded and it has a ~3700lb payload. The same F250 is ~2500lbs
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
That is so true. It would be nice to have an online configuration tool that would show actual capacity as built. Think many people are confused... Thanks for sharing!
@paulrodrigues9603
@paulrodrigues9603 4 жыл бұрын
@@TruckCamper Ford does have that. It's relatively new. Just put you VIN # in and it gives vehicle specific info. (www.fordfleetlive.com/3/VinCalculator)
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Good info! Thanks for sharing. The issue is when you configure and build a truck... it doesn't show what the actual numbers will be.
@babbledmuch
@babbledmuch 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulrodrigues9603 Ram and Ford both offer what Max values for a trim would be which helps narrow the gap, but there is no clear way to see what the actual payload stamp will be on your door based on your choices. I did find out when talking to a sales guy at a dealership for Ford that based on a window sticker they can look up the exact payload stamp number. You just need to provide the window sticker. I have no interest in GMC/Chevy so not sure what their practice is.
@carlredmond3642
@carlredmond3642 3 жыл бұрын
@@babbledmuch When you are using an online build tool to see what the effect on total cost your trim and option choices have, the build tool should also recalculate the available payload every time you make a change so that you can make more informed decisions from a load perspective
@kckettridge
@kckettridge Жыл бұрын
I see that you did shoot this video 3 years ago. Do you still have your F-250 and if so, how has it been holding up? I have a '17 F-250 XLT, 6.2L, 6-speed I purchased new and it has been fantastic. Other than the death wobble which has been corrected and a coil pack going south, this thing has been pretty bulletproof.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper Жыл бұрын
Yes. Nearly 4 yrs old. We've done several update videos since then. It's been a solid workhorse. We call it Donki :)
@shottyotter
@shottyotter 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you have a different video about this, but I was wondering: You said you have the 6.2 so that is the Gas v8 right? Can you tell me why you chose that over Diesel? I want to buy a truck and camper, but also have a trailer with 2 snowmobiles, so I am thinking I might need the 6.7. Thanks for the informative yet funny videos.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. 6.2L gasser. Love it. Plenty of power we frequently tow our 14ft enclosed trailer for house projects with the camper. Easily handles the load. Biggest advantages: less initial cost, less weight (800lbs), less ownership cost, less maintenance. And it's a decade old motor that is extremely proven and reliable. Unless towing over 20k lbs... gasser is a great option. 7.3L has potential to be excellent... but not proven yet. I'd buy after another 5-10 years. I like old reliable, boring things that work. Hope that helps! Thanks for sharing.
@shottyotter
@shottyotter 3 жыл бұрын
@@TruckCamper Ok! This is really helpful and opens up some of options for me. My trailer fully loaded would never exceed 4000 lbs, so it just might work fine with a gas 250. I also live in Winter Park, Colorado and mornings are often -10f, so starting the diesel in the cold is a concern. I could take the 8-12$ saved annd put it towards suspension upgrades or the camper. Thanks for the tip.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
@@shottyotter Awesome! Let me know how it turns out. :)
@birdlady2725
@birdlady2725 3 жыл бұрын
@@shottyotter my Honda odyssey mini van touring model has a tow rating of 3500 pounds. I tow a loaded 5x8 cargo trailer with it no problem. 140,000+ miles on van. I think some dodge Durango have some decent tow specs, but I don't know if pu trucks have a wider wheelbase/stance for more stability? I just bought a 15 6.7L f350 2wd reg cab diesel. Plan to tow across country.
@tdibent1
@tdibent1 3 жыл бұрын
@@TruckCamper same here. Many service body trucks with the 6.2l north of 300,000 still on the road with the 6.2L. Reliability & service cost win the day in my book.
@rubicondon04
@rubicondon04 10 ай бұрын
I’ve been spoiled the past couple decades with full floats in front & rear, with a solid axel up front. Does the 250 have these two important features? How bout the 350?
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 10 ай бұрын
Yes. The Sterling 10.5" rear axle is full float. Same with the high pinion Dana 60 front axle. Same axles for the F350. New Super Duty have Dana rear axle. Dually has different rear axle (all full float).
@rubicondon04
@rubicondon04 10 ай бұрын
I’m surprised ford is so secretive about their axles. Now I just wish they’d go back to old school lock out hubs in front. Hmmmmm 250/350? I’m not sure yet. Campers gonna be about 2300 lbs max.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 10 ай бұрын
@rubicondon04 You're in luck. All the high pinion Dana 60 front axles have manual hubs. However they are also vacuum operated... so you can engage manually outside by turning the dial or automatically inside. They work great (watch our off road videos)
@johnharris6655
@johnharris6655 4 жыл бұрын
In California, where all trucks have commercial plates, the 350 will cost you more to register because it is a heavier vehicle.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
That makes sense. Good to get costs before choosing. Thanks for sharing
@roadrash1021
@roadrash1021 3 жыл бұрын
Similar in NH for the state portion of the registration. Town portion varies. My town does it based on base MSRP depreciated by year. Long story short if I have a new vehicle I have 13 car payments a year, not 12.
@drooskeedoo3388
@drooskeedoo3388 3 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to find out how much more
@dianacollins5845
@dianacollins5845 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Truck camper where did you find the info that the sterling rear axle is rated to 9500lb? I understand that ford derate them on there door stickers.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
Just searched online for the actual Sterling GAWR. But even with the Ford GAWR the truck capacity is WAY over the GVWR (assuming proper loading). You'll find many trucks where the GAWR and GVWR are extremely similar. And others where the GAWR is significantly higher (meaning the GVWR is conservative).
@PeterFranklinFoxfireRealEstate
@PeterFranklinFoxfireRealEstate 4 жыл бұрын
I own the F350 Diesel. I was told by my dealer (a very old and knowledgeable owner) that Ford was really only building a 1 ton truck starting out, and that the only difference was that the F350 was the load handling leaf spring (the upside down one), and that the only reason that Ford kept the “¾ ton” option was that a significant amount of states charged a higher tax when one went from ¾ ton to 1 ton.
@Oakleyshooter
@Oakleyshooter 4 жыл бұрын
I think I remember hearing that some states require a different license to drive a 350 on the road as opposed to the 250s too.
@justinmyers1917
@justinmyers1917 4 жыл бұрын
@@Oakleyshooter that was mentioned in the video.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
That does seem to be mostly accurate
@Mrburger-um8by
@Mrburger-um8by 3 жыл бұрын
I need to get air bags for my Honda Ridgeline HD for RV trailer.... Maybe some tow mirrors.... 👀
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
That's a lot to ask from a Honda. Basically a car engine and transmission.
@TheGuyJack1
@TheGuyJack1 4 жыл бұрын
Difference is leaf pack, payload sticker, badges... That's it. The F250 only exists for the GVRW under 10k. It comes down to insurance and registration fees. F250 could do the same stuff in reality if it had the extra leaf. But legally it can't.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Nice summary
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
@Sam Macaw Good thing to check. Some states do consider over 10k GVWR commercial. Thanks for sharing!
@sjozski42987
@sjozski42987 4 жыл бұрын
@Sam Macaw In NY if its a SRW f350 they cover it. Just had my 17 F350 towed last week for a failed fuel pump.....
@sjozski42987
@sjozski42987 4 жыл бұрын
@Sam Macaw Single rear wheel. Not a dually
@jimbarino2
@jimbarino2 3 жыл бұрын
I went to get my F-250 inspected here in Mass and the mechanic had to look at the sticker first - he said they were only approved for vehicles 10k GVWR and under. So it effects where you can get it repaired as well...
@skipduncan1669
@skipduncan1669 3 жыл бұрын
very good review, thanks ! looking between the two now
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
Very welcome!! :)
@kdubbzfour206
@kdubbzfour206 4 жыл бұрын
Still love my 2008 F-350 Lariat power stroke diesel
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Nice truck for sure.
@kdubbzfour206
@kdubbzfour206 4 жыл бұрын
Brad Pellerin obviously you do buddy😉😆🤣😂👍👍👍
@timmyburch9126
@timmyburch9126 4 жыл бұрын
Get rid of it ASAP before it blows up. 6.4L are huge POS's
@kdubbzfour206
@kdubbzfour206 3 жыл бұрын
Tim Carnes I traded it in towards a 2018 6.7 Turbo diesel F-350
@richardmarion1130
@richardmarion1130 Ай бұрын
Are there differences in Transmission Cooling? Braking?
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper Ай бұрын
Same cooling. Same brakes.
@gittyupalice96
@gittyupalice96 4 жыл бұрын
Hell no, the dmv tried to pull that one on me saying my truck was 10,500 so I had to prove to them through copious amounts of paper work it was actually 9,500 The difference in price was $800 vs $240, just to put plates on the dam thing. Never again will I buy a 1 ton lol.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
That makes good sense! I'd feel the same way in your position.
@bajamedic
@bajamedic 4 жыл бұрын
Dana M275 on the F350 and Sterling 10.5 are the main and most obvious but the 275 can be optioned on a 250 especially in the Tremor
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
True. And the Dana M275 is new for 2020. Previous years used the Sterling 10.5. Sterling is a stout axle. The manufacturer rates it to carry up to 9,600lbs. Either axle is significantly more than the payloads.
@txgaragenewswire
@txgaragenewswire 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! So much great information ❤️
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it! :)
@Fordgroup00
@Fordgroup00 3 жыл бұрын
In California ALL truck frames are considered commercial, weight class doesn’t matter You can also put a dually axle under an F250
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
Haven't heard that before... hard to imagine a Toyota Tacoma as commercial or F150. Correct you could swap the dually axle on the F250. But not worth the effort... would still need to replace the bed, wheels and tires. Easier to just buy a F350 dually or better yet the F450
@Fordgroup00
@Fordgroup00 3 жыл бұрын
@@TruckCamper All depends. My case it’d be easy, I built my flatbed so to put a dually axle under it would be cake. Others yeah not so much but registration costs depending on state could make it worth it too.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fordgroup00 Good point. I can see that making sense
@Fordgroup00
@Fordgroup00 3 жыл бұрын
@@TruckCamper I ended up staying SRW because of tires and turning, but I seriously thought about it for a bit
@mikeb9045
@mikeb9045 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your very informative video!
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Very welcome. Thanks for sharing!
@drewmurray2583
@drewmurray2583 3 жыл бұрын
with the 2000 the main differences are axles/gear ratios and leaf springs
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't looked into the older Super Duty truck differences... interesting
@drewmurray2583
@drewmurray2583 3 жыл бұрын
@@TruckCamper Yeah I basically turned my truck into a 1 ton by changing those parts. It had a 3.73 open diff originally and I put a pair of 4.10 dana 60's with factory locker from a 2003 350. The leaf springs made a big difference in how the truck sits with it loaded up and a trailer attached, I'm very happy with the modifications
@rickr5716
@rickr5716 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for video.....I have to ask, how tall is your garage door, to get that slide in camper under...?
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Our door is 14ft. Camper is about 10.5ft.
@rickr5716
@rickr5716 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@birdlady2725
@birdlady2725 3 жыл бұрын
Could fit a semi tractor in there! Nice.
@michaelnadeau8292
@michaelnadeau8292 3 жыл бұрын
In 2020 Ford f350 allows you to option 11500 to 12500 GVWR for no increase in price so long as you get the diesel. They give an extra overload spring over f250 but I think the extra 1000 lbs is just paper work nothing structural added, but it does allow for a truck camper and towing tongue load that is now legal because of adequate GVWR. I have the f350 diesel w 12500 lb gvwr single axle and added spring stops to reduce and eliminate squat. My payload rating is 4600 lbs. I carry a 3000 lb camper and horse trailer and top out at scale at 12800 lbs. I haul at 6 to 7000 ft elevation all the time and truck acts like driving empty. Good outfit and nice having engine compression braking in high country.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
That's a great setup. How is you fuel mileage?
@michaelnadeau8292
@michaelnadeau8292 3 жыл бұрын
@@TruckCamper about 12 mpg w camper and 3 horse trailer in mountains⁷, 14mpg highway 75mph w camper only, and 21 empty.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelnadeau8292 Not bad! Thanks for sharing!
@langmussen3169
@langmussen3169 3 жыл бұрын
nicely done
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it. :)
@azcharlie2009
@azcharlie2009 5 ай бұрын
I had no idea there was a 6.2 liter diesel engine. Do they still offer that?
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 5 ай бұрын
6.2L is a gasser. Exceptional motor. Many examples well over 500k
@nick9124
@nick9124 3 жыл бұрын
"It's exactly THE SAME!" 😂😂
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
😀
@ShartSydePhil
@ShartSydePhil 3 жыл бұрын
If you're not using your truck for commercial purposes (i.e. making money) you do not need commerical insurance. Commercial insurance typically starts at $20k a year. GVWR is irrelevant if operating non commercially. You only need commercial registration (IRP) if you're operating commercially and your CVWR (the combined GVWR of your truck and whatever you're pulling) is over 26,000 pounds.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
Good information! Appreciate you sharing details on the commercial insurance. Some states do charge more for insurance for the F350 because the higher GVWR. Definitely state by state. Appreciate you taking the time to share!
@mountaindew3201
@mountaindew3201 4 жыл бұрын
So you’re telling me that there’s really no difference between the two? Basically I can purchase the f250 for a cheaper price and save me a new type of registration hassle. Next, I could just make the f250 into a f350 by lifting up the spring HD and leaves on the back. Wow. I guess I’ll do that instead.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
There you go. Component wise you can get the same parts on the F250. You can option the F350 to have a higher GVWR. That is a consideration depending on load haul requirements.
@tltponto
@tltponto 3 жыл бұрын
Can you put F-350 rear leaf springs on a F-250?
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. But you also need the frame brackets (bolt on) for the F350 overload springs to rest on...
@TheNetcase
@TheNetcase 4 жыл бұрын
So basically just add an extra leaf spring to your f250 and you now have an f350.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
From a functional standpoint yes. But sticker payload number is the same...
@cirrus820travelers9
@cirrus820travelers9 Жыл бұрын
Good info! I've tried comparing brake components for the single rear wheels & 2wd. Both were the same part numbers. Besides leaf pack, do they use heavier duty tires? To carry more weight with srw 2wd 350 the tires need to match the load versus lighter duty srw 2wd 250. My 2011 has LT275/65 so I had them replaced with LT275/70 and added air bags to stabilize the load appearance. It wasn't really squatting much with the camper.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper Жыл бұрын
It's amazing how the trucks are essentially the same. Leaf packs can be the same as well with Camper Package. There are many tire/wheel packages. But essentially you can end up with the same physical components with either truck assuming you research it a bit...
@MetroOnTheMove
@MetroOnTheMove 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this. Always wondered what the difference was.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Very welcome! Thanks for sharing.
@doroteoarango3010
@doroteoarango3010 Жыл бұрын
A shot of payload sticker would of been good!
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 11 ай бұрын
Payload stickers are not relevant universally. Our base F250 has more payload than a loaded F350 with diesel (heavy). Every option you add increases vehicle weight and reduces payload. Our truck is one of the lightest configurations (2wd standard cab is the least weight). This video was more about the weight rating difference being from classification vs physical component differences. That's what I found interesting...
@JLR77
@JLR77 4 жыл бұрын
Just go with the f350 with the Godzilla 7.3
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
That's a solid option!!
@robertputnam8570
@robertputnam8570 2 жыл бұрын
This is a good video. I didn't hear you mention the brakes. F 350's have bigger brakes. I have an F 250. I'm really pushing the limits when i tow my 5th wheel toy hauler. That being said, I added air bags and a Wilwood big brake kit. I also hear the transmission cooler is bigger on the F 350. My floor gets very hot when i tow up big grades. I straight piped and did a def delete. I have a soft ride 6-inch suspension lift 37x12 inch Toyos on 22 inch forgis and an air intake system. Im very happy with the truck.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! This video is specially for the 2017+ Super Duty trucks... and these do share the same brakes with the exception of the dually which has a different rear axle. Mostly the difference is for regulation as you can option the F250 with the same physical components. Thanks for sharing!
@jasoncollins4654
@jasoncollins4654 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think you realize you are still under the same DOT law if you get pulled over and your over your stickers payload rating you get a massive fine. other then the you can get away with a f250 with only the a truck camper may be a small trailer. but you need a f350 if you have a camper over 3300 pounds or you will be over watght
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
That's true. But DOT would have their hands full trying to fine all overweight vehicles. A large number are past GVWR especially SUVs, Jeeps, Small trucks, overland vehicles...
@georgemurphy2922
@georgemurphy2922 4 жыл бұрын
Get in an accident overloaded and the cops will have plenty of time. Injure someone and their insurance co. will too.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
@@georgemurphy2922 Always a risk. So is lifted suspension and oversized tires. Good stuff to consider! Thanks for sharing!
@travelintammy6073
@travelintammy6073 4 жыл бұрын
@@georgemurphy2922 Reality is they don't typically pick up all the pieces off the road and weigh them...not really an issue. Also, non-commercial use, you generally don't go thru weigh stations or otherwise get policed for weight. So unless it's grossly over to the point that something is obviously, wrong, there is no real risk of legal action.
@georgemurphy2922
@georgemurphy2922 4 жыл бұрын
@@travelintammy6073 I’m not saying it can’t be done safely. Legally is a whole different story. Not that hard to guess which rigs are over weight. Many 3/4T 5ers probably are. Especially diesel owners. The weight of the diesel engine kills the cargo capacity. My truck is in my company. I don’t want the liability personally, or in the company. As OP says, VERY little difference between 250/350 sw truck. Less than $1,000, and that stupid sticker makes me legal, while a more capable 250 (+good air bags) is overloaded w/same load. It is frustrating to have a 250 that is WAAAAY more capable than a older 350 that would be “legal”. User can’t increase the rated capacity by adding overload springs, bags, or better tires. Just remember, insurance company’s don’t want to pay claims, and I see lots of ambulance chasing personal injury billboards. No shortage of folks willing to sue, and if anyone is injured a jury or judge will have a hard time acquitting the owner of an overloaded rig. If your buying a truck, why not get the right tool for the job?
@daveadams4283
@daveadams4283 3 жыл бұрын
hi great video thank you i have a 2019 sd f250 lariat 6.7 with the heavy duty tow package fitted i have the 3inch receiver and the extra rear leaf springs plus extra front springs no one can tell me what weight i can carry in the box . what my tongue weight will be or what weight of travel trailer i could tow ,can you advise
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
Take a look at your driver door jamb tag. It will show the max payload and GVWR. It's always best to weigh the truck on a scale to get front and rear axle weights. Then subtract your total scale weight from the GVWR. That will give you your actual amount of gross payload. To get max front and rear load... look up your GAWR (gross axle weight rating). Subtract that from your scale weight front/rear. That will be the max load you can put in the bed. Ideally stay under the GAWR and GVWR. Hope that helps!
@daveadams4283
@daveadams4283 3 жыл бұрын
@@TruckCamper thank you what happened was i oredred a 2019 f250 lariat wgeh it arrived the dealer told me the camper package and the heavy duty trailer package had been fitted for free and the truck now as the same payload and towing figures as a f350 do you think they are correct ..cheers
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
@@daveadams4283 Yes. It would have the same components as the F350. However, the F250 GVWR is limited to 10k lbs for governmental reasons.
@daveadams4283
@daveadams4283 3 жыл бұрын
many thanks for your help you have given me more help than ford themselves they just kept telling me to check out the label on the drivers door jam
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
@@daveadams4283 very welcome!
@tedmccauley9319
@tedmccauley9319 4 жыл бұрын
Some of our dealers dont even bring in the F250, the F350 is so close in price they just order F350’s.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Makes sense for parts if the country!
@LWRC
@LWRC 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and excellent explanation on the difference between the F250 vs F350! Just for the heck of it, if it is possible, change that F250 badge to a F150!!!
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! The F250 and F350 badges could be swapped out. F150 is different.... :)
@Djtruckin
@Djtruckin 4 жыл бұрын
How is it you never new this????
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Always learning new things! Keep life interesting...
@chadfuqua9776
@chadfuqua9776 4 жыл бұрын
New this or knew this? How did you never knew the difference in the 2 words but no so much about trucks?
@Djtruckin
@Djtruckin 4 жыл бұрын
@@chadfuqua9776 I’m sure spell check has never got it wrong for you.
@chadfuqua9776
@chadfuqua9776 4 жыл бұрын
Good try but we ain't buying it
@Djtruckin
@Djtruckin 4 жыл бұрын
@@chadfuqua9776 I’m not selling, there is definitely a word for your type
@craigwflys
@craigwflys Жыл бұрын
Driveshafts and brakes are the same?
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper Жыл бұрын
Yes. For the SRW. Dually is a different real axle and brake setup
@robertanderson7447
@robertanderson7447 4 жыл бұрын
In Minnesota the f350 costs $120.00 a year for tabs..the 250 is 4 times that when new..
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
That's crazy! Guess makes the choice easy..
@thearrowheadwoodsman3811
@thearrowheadwoodsman3811 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. In 2 years, the f350 pretty much pays the difference in cost. (In minnesota)
@ottocarr3688
@ottocarr3688 10 ай бұрын
Excellent explanation!
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 10 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@hosea1320
@hosea1320 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like buyers remorse to me. The only F 250' s that my dealer will bring in are special order for customers or fleet stock. Go big, or go home!
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
It seems to vary by area what dealers sell more... no remorse yet! Stay tuned on updates!!
@pc5569
@pc5569 4 жыл бұрын
Thought I saw a video on this topic before. That person said that the difference was rear springs and rear axle tube diameter was larger on the F350 SRW compared to the F250. Should explain the $1000 and payload difference. Don't know that as fact but it makes sense.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
That is part of it. But you can get the same components on the F250 by selecting options. The primary difference is F250 stays at 10k GVWR where some versions of the F350 SRW are up to 11,300lbs. Thanks for sharing!!
@frankjcondon3809
@frankjcondon3809 4 жыл бұрын
3/4 ton vs 1 ton.. payload
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Not always... depends on configuration. Some F250 have greater payload than F350. F250 won't exceed 10k GVWR while F350 can... interesting stuff!
@91cobra50
@91cobra50 4 жыл бұрын
My f350 has a 8000# box payload and almost 30000# towing in fifth wheel configuration.
@donoberloh
@donoberloh 4 жыл бұрын
Depends on the brand and the years also. Dodge axles in their 3/4 tons used to be the same size as Ford’s 350, Check the Frame, brake booster brakes, axles etc. and of course the payload, Never seen a 3/4 ton carry 4K lbs and drive up San Francisco streets,
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
@@donoberlohTrue. Really need to research each brand and year to know specifics...
@BenJamin-ou7kd
@BenJamin-ou7kd 4 жыл бұрын
3/4 vs 1 ton payload, righhttt , its not that simple
@grub321
@grub321 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a 2021 f250 with the 7.3 motor. I bought a truck camper and had air bags installed as well. With my boat in tow it weighed 10,400lbs so 400 pounds over GVWR do you think I am ok or should I add another leaf spring?
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
Check your front and rear axle weights... it's more important to stay under the GAWR. Improve suspension if needed for proper handling and load carrying. I wouldn't worry about it otherwise...
@donaldpfau4284
@donaldpfau4284 3 жыл бұрын
350-250=100
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 3 жыл бұрын
So true! But is bigger number better?
@Burniemacfitness
@Burniemacfitness 4 жыл бұрын
Differences between them. The GVWR, cargo capacity, leaf springs. Not all F350s are over 10K GVWR. Depends on the GVWR package on them, if the engine is a gas vs diesel, if they are regular, super or crew cab configuration and lastly take into account the wheel base. Putting a slide camper on you should look for a truck with a camper prep package. That will also change a few important items.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. Not as simple as F350 is better. Research and learning required for each configuration. Thanks for sharing!
@armedprophet3321
@armedprophet3321 4 жыл бұрын
Good info, thanks.
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 4 жыл бұрын
You bet!! Stay tuned. More to come!
@kellyh4035
@kellyh4035 2 жыл бұрын
Springs and rear axle shafts. Always been the story
@TruckCamper
@TruckCamper 2 жыл бұрын
Nope. Same rear axle and shafts. Springs can be the same with either depending on package. It's really only the GVWR limits for commercial over/under 10k.
@kellyh4035
@kellyh4035 2 жыл бұрын
@@TruckCamperok bud
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