What is the Point of a $3700 Laser? MAWL C1+

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@wellingtonbruh3756 10 ай бұрын

Oh boy, a new laser box vid. Time to pull out my anti depressants because this market makes me sad.

@TheRealBigEE 10 ай бұрын

Yeah I’m doing like he said and having a drink

@Ryan-cv9me 10 ай бұрын

Had to pause to grab a drink.

@budget-88 10 ай бұрын

Nêver forget the USS Libërty and thê men who died on that day

@candyinthefire 10 ай бұрын

It feels like there are different boundaries for preparedness. Red dots on pistols used to be for competition shooters, but are becoming ever more present. Next step is getting suppressors and integrating those. Night vision is a huge price boundary for most folks, but as with the boundaries before it, gives you a lot better capabilities when employed

@nomad155 10 ай бұрын

Night vision don't get to that level boundary of preparedness I think. For 1 it's too expensive, and two the time to utilize it compared to a handgun or optic on a rifle is laughable. You gotta get nods on, and you gun up and be ready for when they attacker bust in your door. Unless you're doing community watch there's little to no value to the civilian market. That's not to say people should not get it. There are much better things to get them nods at that price point anyway, like a down payment on a home, supplies, training, investments etc.

@budget-88 10 ай бұрын

Nêver forget the USS Libërty and thê men who died on that day

@murderlesson101 3 ай бұрын

Got two jobs to afford the first few boundaries. Im not getting 3 more jobs just to afford the nvg boundary

@LtLemontwist 10 ай бұрын

Performance and usability make it the best in my opinion. Once you learn to hate the torture devices that are standard layout devices, you will greatly appreciate the MAWL layout. Too bad other brands can’t seem to innovate on controls.

@budget-88 10 ай бұрын

Nêver forget the USS Libërty and thê men who died on that day

@Rebellion1776 10 ай бұрын

I went with the MAWL as well. Got mine just before the price hike. So it was like $2800 if I remember correctly. I also 100% agree with the two button combo that the MAWL has going for it. People really don't understand how nice that feature is, until you let them do it, and then take it away from them and give them back a system that doesn't have that option.

@Version135 10 ай бұрын

I also got in at that price. With inflation not sure if we saved anything though.

@alexisdetocqueville9964 10 ай бұрын

Holding out for the Z-Bolt "MAWL at home". Very impressed with their IR head. Selling for $1500. Also a vcsel with similar ergonomics.

@BrassFacts 10 ай бұрын

im very excited.

@Spessforce 10 ай бұрын

It will be interesting to see what happens to these prices when the Iris releases at $800 ish.

@BrassFacts 10 ай бұрын

just call yourself SpessIris already ... Irisforce?

@alexlevinson8629 10 ай бұрын

Sadly, the iris won’t hold a candle yet. Illum performance was just bad

@molenat9973 10 ай бұрын

@@alexlevinson8629there was an updated video where it is better. That being said, I’m cautiously optimistic

@meatsmudge5349 10 ай бұрын

@@alexlevinson8629 That was addressed in a video last week. I'm gonna hold out until production units hit before basing my decisions off five seconds worth of video.

@IDFWU650 10 ай бұрын

We’re all rooting for the Iris to be decent. 😂

@PaulyP_13 10 ай бұрын

I have a MAWL and a Wilcox XC. Both are incredible. I like the button layout and quick adjustments the MAWL affords. It is really expensive but I got mine before they crested 3k+. And I’m also a physician with no other expensive hobbies so there’s that. Would I get multiple for other platforms, no, that’s why the LS321G exists

@davidb9323 10 ай бұрын

How is the Holosun? Have never heard of it before this comment 😅

@PaulyP_13 10 ай бұрын

@@davidb9323 the MAWL is VCSEL(sp?) tech so it puts out a ton more IR illumination, but for a cheap laser the Holosun is great. I currently have one on a B&T APC9, which no one would shoot past 100 at night anyway. Can’t wait to see how the new holosun units that were released at Shot Show do. They are VCSEL

@death31313 10 ай бұрын

I'm probably on the same page as you, the MAWL may be the best LAM on the market but it's not enough of a step up to justify the price tag unless money is no object. I'm trying out the somogear NGAL, so far I'm pretty impressed, it seems to solve many of the issues their PEQ had and at the price tag you can buy 9 of them for the price of one MAWL

@mathildadeer 10 ай бұрын

Hop holding Nova's ears was so precious!

@type_s_tyler7547 10 ай бұрын

I feel validated in my life choices for getting one of these!

@Enjoyer.762 10 ай бұрын

Credova for life, yo

@Matt-xc6sp 10 ай бұрын

The best piece of kit I picked up because of Brass Facts is the phrase “Full Chooch”

@zim3900 10 ай бұрын

Makes me think he may be an AvE watcher, which is pretty skookum.

@mattyfz496 10 ай бұрын

Solid review, when I first got into this I never thought that I’d spend that much. Now I have an a2 and la5. I never understood the hype but you showed me why. Keep doing what you do 👌 you do what other gun guys on here won’t.

@F1SH_L3G 10 ай бұрын

You can always rely on NV gear to kick you in the balls and remind you of how poor you actually are 🤦‍♂️

@Enjoyer.762 10 ай бұрын

It's for the wealthy with FU money, incels LARPers who go into debt over gear, and for the real military-grade kit it's for the government jackboot thugs paid by your tax dollars.

@Black_Heart_Defense 10 ай бұрын

Bro I’m driving a forklift, I can’t drink rn lmfaoo And grey market is king let’s be honest, full power all the way

@xdristx 10 ай бұрын

Based

@andrewvachon1943 10 ай бұрын

I’m a dir-v guy, still not cheap by any means. The form factor is amazing and the performance is addicting.

@alexmilbaugh1645 10 ай бұрын

Same I like it more than my d2 but time will tell how it will hold up

@Ivan_I99999 10 ай бұрын

Is your DIR-V’a laser suspiciously powerful (~5mW)?

@alexmilbaugh1645 10 ай бұрын

@@Ivan_I99999 so I have the dir -v and the dir and it seems that the dir-v is brighter than the dir but have no real way of testing other than it is bright as shit at night and daytime compared to the regular dual beam

@dillonmills333 10 ай бұрын

As long as you don’t mind sending it back every other week.

@andrewvachon1943 10 ай бұрын

@@dillonmills333 Haven’t had to yet, no problem holding zero and my lasers are coailligned. USNV also has great customer service so if I do need to send it back it shouldn’t be a problem. Can’t say the same for steiner.

@scottmartin1811 11 ай бұрын

I greatly appreciate all the info on LAM’s. I’m hoping the new Holosun IRIS is decent! Been debating what LAM to get first for years. I just got a PVS-14! I’m thinking LS321 to start with.

@BrassFacts 11 ай бұрын

wait like 4 more days for people to get info on the release time frame on the new holosun LAM. As well as the ACAL from blazer.

@scottmartin1811 11 ай бұрын

Good advice! Can’t believe the price point of the IRIS. Hopefully it delivers and I can actually get one 😅

@deangullberry5148 10 ай бұрын

@scottmartin1811 at the announced price I'd skip the LS321. Since it's the same price my guess is it'll be discontinued.

@jacksonmctavish8240 10 ай бұрын

@@BrassFactsACAL from Z-Bolt*. The blazer is their light head.

@ramjet118 10 ай бұрын

No goggles, no mawl. But I do need to spend some serious coin on my car! 😅

@Enjoyer.762 10 ай бұрын

Well sheeeit, this guntube channel ain't fo you fam lol

@highdesertdrew1844 10 ай бұрын

I remember talking to a guy at a LGS who was buying night vision in 2020, to just buy the mawl, as the shop was offering a package deal for a +$1800, I said "just do it" it's absolutely bonkers that these things are going for nearly $4k. I recently came into possession of a few different laser aiming modules for test, I didn't have a ton of experience with them prior to this acquisition, I really had no idea how bonkers MIL/LE strength lasers were compared to their civilian counterparts.

@spade2you 10 ай бұрын

I think the MAWL is obviously the best by a longshot. Similar to dual tube NODs, the price makes it difficult to have backups. I'm fine with Steiners on a few weapon systems.

@user-fn1cq4df3g 10 ай бұрын

Love you and the boys Brass Facts hoping the best for 2024 :D

@buff34x 10 ай бұрын

Trying to get into night vision now days makes me regret not trying to steal a peq16 back in the day. It also makes me want to start pushing bills to deregulate weapon mounted lasers.

@MrDhdiaz 10 ай бұрын

Always enjoy the conversation.

@gavindooly2375 10 ай бұрын

Here's a topic unrelated to this video. Venture surplus sells a chest rig with molle webbing and 6 mag pouches plus a radio pouch on either side. If you want a good chest rig that can also buckle to the front of a plate carrier with the included accessories then check it out. Also, strap some extra mag pouches to the front for extra payload

@BrassFacts 10 ай бұрын

already am. It's called the TAPs

@uh60ce1 10 ай бұрын

Great video as always. I will say I hope that's just a bright spot in the NODS. If it's an emission point it hurts my soul 😢

@legendsneverdie25 10 ай бұрын

I’m gonna wait until it’s $4k

@BrassFacts 10 ай бұрын

no they go up in 1k increments. so wait till it's 4700

@legendsneverdie25 10 ай бұрын

@@BrassFacts can’t wait to be poor again

@spencer7197 10 ай бұрын

I got to the chance to run one of these on deployment in 2019. I loved it, it really is a huge upgrade over something like a PEQ-15. Now, I'm not throwing any hate at the PEQ-15 (fantastic unit), this is just better in ever way. And yeah, if money wasn't an object I would definitely run this. But since money is a concern, I'm running a DBAL. It does the job just fine minus that battery drain even when the unit is off and the fact that it looks like a microwave on the front of my pew pew. Run what you can afford guys, don't be maxing credit cards so you can flex on insta. And I promise, you won't die because you aren't running gucci stuff that is the cost of a used car.

@Enjoyer.762 10 ай бұрын

You ran civilian-grade stuff on deployment? Huh? I am no NV and laser expert but that sounds sus.

@custosvilicus 10 ай бұрын

One of us!

@Militaristics 10 ай бұрын

the MAWL is 100% ambi, you can reconfigure it for either left or right-handed operation in a less than 2 minutes. the 3 pieces can be assembled with the laser on either side of the rail. ask Chuck P about the MAWL to get 100% up to speed on it, he knows more than most users have forgotten about it.

@wc570 10 ай бұрын

I call that “reversible”. Ambidextrous means it can instantly be used with either hand without any adjustments or tools.

@biobeast1179 10 ай бұрын

Another great vid from Brap Facts!

@elijahanderson6736 10 ай бұрын

I got mine brand new when Ariska ran the deal before 2023 price hike. With the light package subtracted the MAWL c1+ brand new was 2820. I think BE meyers backing the units, American made, and its not a steiner + ergo and simplicity won me over. Its just simple, clean, and is awesome. But yeah paying 3600 would be insane

@linux-usr 10 ай бұрын

I'm glad that I bought both of my MAWL-C1s before the price increase, they originally were selling them for $2.7k and that was considered "outrageously overpriced" at that time too and now at $3.5-3.7k I can't honestly say it is worth it when that is getting into the price range of FP MAWL-DA, Raid-Xe and NGAL when you can find it being sold in the private/gray/black market. Overall I like my MAWLs, but I do lament the weight of the unit though but the trade-offs of the ergo is fine with me.

@basedWisco715 10 ай бұрын

Where would one theoretically be able to find a FP MAWL for sale?

@Warhorse556 10 ай бұрын

@@basedWisco715 TacSwap

@AmazonWebService98 10 ай бұрын

Can't wait for your review of the new holosun lam

@FrOGer-p6q 10 ай бұрын

One thing that I learnt from a 24th STS guy is if imma use a LPVO or elcan to just mount the lazer on the right rail

@jasonbond4591 10 ай бұрын

5:46 Does this become less of a problem with longer guns IE 14.5 to shorter 11.5?

@ryanestes7331 10 ай бұрын

Yes, the further out you can get your hands the more leverage you can get

@jasonbond4591 10 ай бұрын

@@ryanestes7331 More a question of does the laser get in the view of the optic if its closer or further out on the rail.

@50shadesofcerakote 10 ай бұрын

@@jasonbond4591 the farther it is, the more it will obstruct at the 1x

@welderdude1 10 ай бұрын

I'm happy with my Perst 4. Linked it to a Z-Bolt IR torch.

@forkthepork 10 ай бұрын

Flexin on da poorz

@jonintheredZ06 10 ай бұрын

See but you know what's funny about that? This laser is more than my SCAR 17S cost me...

@Enjoyer.762 10 ай бұрын

Alwayz

@ryanweiss1721 10 ай бұрын

I have been looking at the MAWL for a build I am planning for sometime this year for every single positive reason given in this video. With that said, I was planning on this unit with the begrudging sense it would cost literally more than the rest of the rifle with optics, light, and can. I am eagerly awaiting the release of Holosun's IRIS and Z-bolt's LAM because they use similar tech to the MAWL. I really want to know how those new LAMs perform before dropping that $3700.

@bghiggy 10 ай бұрын

For the ig flex /end video

@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz 10 ай бұрын

I just hope the options are a little better when i finally drop money on a LAM. Maybe i wont mind spending MAWL money, but ill certainly only buy one and swap it between uppers. Tandem red laser for the win.

@BrassFacts 10 ай бұрын

its getting a lot better real quick

@danmosse9170 10 ай бұрын

I knocked out the pin that holds the power level safety lock out in place and threw some gorilla tape over the LEDs. Those were my only two gripes with it. Most ergonomic and clearest laser I’ve used. I think it’s worth the weight penalty.

@DillianDoe1084 10 ай бұрын

what are these ponchos yall keep wearing, i wanna be cool too

@zerofire3172 10 ай бұрын

I need to know as well after owning one. Zeroing was a pain and the directions were cknfising as it doesnt work the same as the peq on zero

@hipparchus3244 10 ай бұрын

Would you rather have a linear slider or rotary selection for the laser power? Or, maybe a 3 or 4 position linear selector instead of just Hi/Lo? I'm trying to decide on a design to make.

@AllmightyMilpil 10 ай бұрын

As someone who has never had vision at night, that slice through the tube at 3:05 made me wince. Is something like that permanent? I know you're not supposed to point NVGs at bright things, but I was expecting them to be more resilient than that...

@BrassFacts 10 ай бұрын

nah, it just happens when the tube is at very high gain, and then looks at something bright, but not bright enough to trigger the auto gain/gate. It goes away in 5min.

@AllmightyMilpil 10 ай бұрын

@@BrassFacts Thanks for the response. I was worried that my monkey brain would fuck up my future four figure 'investment' doing something similar. Time for a PVS-14 to watch the sun at night 😎

@MourningConstitution 10 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@jedidiahwilliams9737 Ай бұрын

THE FUCK!…how do You know I am watching this on a Friday afternoon at work?! 😦🤣🤣

@deerstrike1050 10 ай бұрын

You discussion about locating or relocating targets at night got me thinking. Have you ever tried acquiring targets at night that have been "dressed" in camo? I wonder how much difference it would make under changing light and or equipment?

@BrassFacts 10 ай бұрын

it makes a big difference, hilarious; the steel targets are one of the most effective camos because it looks identical to a rocky backdrop, vs most camos being human shaped.

@PETRAS_ 10 ай бұрын

Lets see the new Holosun IRIS and Zbolt vcsel lasers. It should be a point of inflexion in the laser market

@L0wSkiller 7 ай бұрын

When I had a floofy Husky, I would use an excited baby voice asking if my baby wanted "Skritchies", id give him skritchies with my hands while getting 1 swipe of the brush in with it. Then next time he did a figure 8 around me, hed get 2 brushies, etc. once i got a few rounds in, id be able to brush going up the back of the leg, and it would grab so many TUFTSSSSSS ❤ 🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶

@TannerBlattner 10 ай бұрын

Mine was $2900 when I bought it. Isn’t it amazing what inflation can do. Especially for a device that drains its battery when it isn’t even turned on.

@blakes2k 2 ай бұрын

I picked up a nearly brand new triple click for 2400

@AndersonOozie13 10 ай бұрын

Are you gonna do a review on the Gigliotti Rifleworks TP9 Short Stroke Trigger kit?! would love to know if you got sent one from them

@BrassFacts 10 ай бұрын

I did not, I don't even know what that is.

@AndersonOozie13 10 ай бұрын

It's a drop-in ENTIRE FCG. It keeps deleting my comment as a link but if you just look up TP9 Short Stroke Trigger Kit from Gigliotti, it will come up. Supposed to be a superb trigger, $399 pre-order currently. You commented on a post from Nick Chen who posted a video of him using the trigger from them so I thought you got a heads up but I guess not.@@BrassFacts

@gansior4744 10 ай бұрын

I would kill for MAWL with how good it looks

@DunkThemMuffins 10 ай бұрын

I really just want a durable LAM with an adjustable illuminator, decent power laser that's usable at 300 yards max, and comes in at the price of a PSA complete rifle lol. I'm pretty sure my Jakl did something to my Somogear, because the vis and IR lasers are now waaaay more than 12 inches off.

@brainsosmooth 10 ай бұрын

“Make yourself a drink, I don’t care that it’s mid day on Friday and you’re at work” as I’m already drinking while watching this video between cases at work

@xxxlonewolf49 10 ай бұрын

Great data points

@Vinn_K 10 ай бұрын

I got mine for 2500 before the price increase, a little on the expensive side, but man the performance is nice

@jzenlasaar7558 10 ай бұрын

Yup, what I paid for mine. There is also a way to make it configured for lefties…the downside is you can’t do it quickly and have to swap the bulb and cap

@revvyishonisd5027 10 ай бұрын

My biggest gripe with the MAWL is that it’s 12/10 in price, 11/10 in performance, but only about 4/10 cool looking.

@X6xWARHAWKx9X 2 ай бұрын

Is the mawl always on the port side of the rifle??

@nurse-dude 10 ай бұрын

Cus they can spend the bean and they want to make sure you know they can

@wildcat8598 10 ай бұрын

Same question I asked also with the NGAL except why 5k+?

@noneyabiz8225 10 ай бұрын

Im kinda a newb too the gun scene. These devices are used for targeting at night with night vision. So what if the enemy has night vision as well..won't you stand out like a sore thumb if it is used?

@zachparade2791 10 ай бұрын

Quick question: About how many rounds do you go through in an average training session? I’m new to all this. I want to shoot enough to get good but not break the bank. Seems like there would be a point of diminishing returns. Like you can only improve a certain amount on average each training session.

@Enjoyer.762 10 ай бұрын

Buddy, guntubers have companies sponsoring their ammo. You can't duplicate their firing schedule. Unless you have FU money to burn. Also, the point of diminishing returns is right in the sense that if you don't have an area to do a variety of different types of drills, simply blasting rounds at 25 meters and working on your splits isn't well-rounded training.

@7gerez 10 ай бұрын

Kiji/Cqbl on an echo arms mount and Unity Axon is the way to go

@Snapper314 10 ай бұрын

I refuse to pay the extortion level pricing of a MAWL. But the Holosun IRIS or Z-Bolt ACAL look far more appealing and financially do-able.

@BrassFacts 10 ай бұрын

they look really good yeah. I look forward to them

@AManAndHisTank-tt3ok 10 ай бұрын

I look forward to Holosun or someone else (phantom) making a unit that's basically the same layout/shape/style but for around 1/3 the price, and accept that it will probably perform worse.

@davidbishop2659 3 ай бұрын

If price and availability is thrown out the window do you prefer the MAWL or Wilcox Raid XE

@irradiatedrunner 10 ай бұрын

A civ mawl is like paying for an F35, receiving an up armored '93 Honda Civic, and despite your dissatisfaction, thanking BE for it, then arguing with everyone on reddit as to why it was a good choice. Edit: Slightly more ergonomic '93 Honda Civic

@DAP-1776 10 ай бұрын

I have a DA and C1+, I can’t tell the difference in real life use.

@practicepractice5719 10 ай бұрын

I have used practically all current LAMs currently on the market (LEO & Civ.)…….and The Civ mawl is like an F35 compared to every other Civ LAM on the market, at this time. And that’s not even considering the ergonomics…..IMO

@johnsheppard7175 10 ай бұрын

NV is still out of my price range. So, here is my comment for the algorithm.

@michaelturk7237 10 ай бұрын

Same boat. Commenting to further boost the algo. It hurts. By the time I'm able to afford basic bitch NV equipment, I'll be too geriatric to use my rifle effectively. Punching air. Fighting demons. Screaming, crying, pissing, shitting, etc.

@BobBob-il2ku 10 ай бұрын

Best part of the mawl is it has an AA battery adapter.

@ArcanusLibero 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the share.

@exodusz19 10 ай бұрын

What kind of Shawl/Poncho do you use? I’m interested in one can can’t find that same shape

@DAP-1776 10 ай бұрын

It was $2500 awhile ago, and I thought that was outrageous. Guess I got a “deal”.

@jfalken86 10 ай бұрын

I asked a guy in the industry and he told me that the laser diode alone went up $600 during covid. The price hasn't come down though so it most likely won't.

@han6211 10 ай бұрын

Hmmm, I peeped a Somo NGAL there. Can't wait for the man who sparked the Somo PEQ-15 craze to get to its successor. When abouts do you think the review will drop?

@Baby_Brotha 10 ай бұрын

Good job at the end hop

@moondemoncompany6791 10 ай бұрын

Yea I had a mawl and sold it for a Wilcox xe, the mawl was a little heavier than I wanted

@FrOGer-p6q 10 ай бұрын

Can you look at the new eotech lazer?

@rpblccmmndo389 10 ай бұрын

I called Nightline, tempted by that discounted elbit price, and got told no we don't have any of those, Elbit got mad that L3 filmless commands such a premium and jacked the price up. Seems like a bait and switch in retrospect.

@BrassFacts 10 ай бұрын

can you elaborate on this? You called and they were entirely out of Elbits? or the Elbits nightline is selling were more than 3,000?

@snakebite210 10 ай бұрын

Brassfacts Friday 🎉🎉🎉🎉

@aidancabrales7794 10 ай бұрын

It’s SCAR rated. I have a SCAR. Therefore I kinda need it.

@Enjoyer.762 10 ай бұрын

You do just to flex on the poors lol

@LeifyGuy 10 ай бұрын

My fp unit lives in the "useless" mode until I need more. I used it in a competition once, all the holosun users were pissed when my laser completely washed out theirs

@bravo_cj 10 ай бұрын

So is that line etched on the nod by the car's headlights permanent?

@kevinalmgren8332 10 ай бұрын

A while back, we discussed carrying these at our shop. The final decision was, “these will never sell in our market.”

@fletch4225 10 ай бұрын

I'm interested in photonic barriers. NP stuff, mawl vs d2???

@BrassFacts 10 ай бұрын

MAWL is better from a ergos standpoint. photonic barriers are the same, it's the same output

@arc2426 10 ай бұрын

Only commenting to sacrifice to the algorithm gods. Great vid as always.

@darrel15 4 ай бұрын

So should I get this or a full power somogear?

@SteelCityIceBirds 10 ай бұрын

Man I feel fortunate I got mine for 2500 last year. Great LAM.

@herrent 10 ай бұрын

Do a few all night intense exercises with a bunch of guys with a big variety of lasers. If you have the MAWL you will be pleased. It right up there with some of the gov issued lasers.