What is the Qualcomm Snapdragon 8cx?

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@tomtomtj2949
@tomtomtj2949 6 жыл бұрын
this is the best explain for the snapdragon 8cx on the internet thx great video
@Androbench
@Androbench 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. He should have more subs for sure, great at explaining.
@kurakuson
@kurakuson 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent! The clearest explanation I've ever heard....Thanks Gary.
@Luredreier
@Luredreier 6 жыл бұрын
Well... kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYOTqZKvrZJpiMk That one is Snapdragon 835 though and not 8CX like he's talking about.
@JAKOB1977
@JAKOB1977 5 жыл бұрын
@@Luredreier you need it 5 times? listen to 0 to 3 minutes. he says the same thing over and over again.. either he is filling for video length or he simply forgotten he just stated the exact same word numerous times before. but no big surprise we starting to see ARM strc. in laptop.. pretty impressive what Apple has managed. on their latest SOC rev. and after all SD845 with Adreno 630 was let's be frank no Graphic powerhouse. take an excellent mobile like Note9 to 1000 USD with SD845-A630GPU here we seeing 8500 scores in fx Geekbench4 compu test.. and if you compare that to a budget product to under 30% of the price from same era, like Ipad2018 here you getting 13.500 scores and way higher. sure it aint apples to apples, two varies different product and most wil likleu hate iOS limitness not least myself but still 13.500 compu score aint bad for a 299USD product and the Adreno 630 is certainly no graphic potent SOC, the SD845 CPU are decent. but the Adreno are lacking. The dual 4K output 4K60 or 4K30?
@Luredreier
@Luredreier 5 жыл бұрын
+@@JAKOB1977 I'm not particularly concerned about the iGPU. But I'm not yet convinced by the CPU cores single threaded performance for laptops... But we'll see...
@nagatasan_21
@nagatasan_21 5 жыл бұрын
Police- Gary Your Arrested!, Gary- Let me explain! -------------After 30Mins------------ Police- nah your free 😐
@khaa5zz81
@khaa5zz81 5 жыл бұрын
Yō Nagatā *you're *you're
@69mviewsnt
@69mviewsnt 5 жыл бұрын
nice one
@kasanabrotherskasanabrothe4699
@kasanabrotherskasanabrothe4699 3 жыл бұрын
@@khaa5zz81 L b Mp
@sudipchatterjee
@sudipchatterjee 6 жыл бұрын
It is clearly a better explanation than even the original event! You're the champ, Gary! Bravo! I also share your hope of ARM-based affordable laptops in 2019.
@ashishpatel350
@ashishpatel350 6 жыл бұрын
Qcom for the win. Maybe some kick ass tablets and ultrathin laptops will come out of it. Hopefully they support Linux. Would be nice to have a thin laptop that can run Ubuntu.
@technoman8219
@technoman8219 6 жыл бұрын
Hopefully
@andrewyork3869
@andrewyork3869 5 жыл бұрын
@Harbinger I mean you can Barrow it of the inevitable cheap broke eBay Mac....
@mindright9771
@mindright9771 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I haven't seen a better explanation of ARM processors than yours. =)
@JoelJosephReji
@JoelJosephReji 5 жыл бұрын
I loved the no pun intended at "risk"! :)
@dedankimathi7136
@dedankimathi7136 5 жыл бұрын
Humble, very intelligent and interesting teacher. As always thanks for this Gary
@PravinPatil41
@PravinPatil41 6 жыл бұрын
Once its available, please do some benchmarks and a comparative analysis with Intel processor range.
@technoman8219
@technoman8219 6 жыл бұрын
Isn't that obvious
@technoman8219
@technoman8219 6 жыл бұрын
A new era of Qualcomm processors are arriving
@mocoj7423
@mocoj7423 5 жыл бұрын
*ARM processors... I can easily see a company like Nvidia trying to bring its own ARM based CPU's to desktop, they have experience with their Tegra chips so they might look at this as an opportunity. Plus you have Apple who's giving up on Intel and is working to slowly rollout ARM on their product line.
@pwnmeisterage
@pwnmeisterage 5 жыл бұрын
NVidia/AMD GPU cores are already based on stripped-down ARM cores. If Qualcomm can establish ARM CPUs into ATX boards then companies like Samsung and TSMC will follow. Apple doesn't make processors, they only have enough financial power to influence demand (and success) of components made by other companies.
@Redbulpro
@Redbulpro 6 жыл бұрын
You always explain things like this the best. You are awesome Gary! Really like your videos!
@twotone3471
@twotone3471 5 жыл бұрын
I've had a ARM laptop for years, good battery life, reasonably quick, and really few issues running a Tegra processor from Nvidia in my Chromebook.
@stefenleung
@stefenleung 6 жыл бұрын
it sounds expensive. the all-day-on concept of laptop is good but today's laptop cpu are so well developed for effeciency and power, it's not easy to get into market. it is not just a pricing problem, Intel and amd can be super competitive on price to stop new comer obviously.
@laustudie
@laustudie 5 жыл бұрын
Qualcomm is huge, remember they deliver 95% of the chips for mobile phones. Intel and AMD have been pretty stagnant for years. I hope for intel and AMD's sake they have some ace up their sleeves, otherwise there will be some very rough years.
@Lolimaster
@Lolimaster 5 жыл бұрын
As you can on ARM as you ramp up performance linked to TDP their efficiency per watt goes down, then you end up with x86-like at similar TDP's defeating the purpose.
@oliverliu5744
@oliverliu5744 6 жыл бұрын
Dear Prof, where's the video of Speed Test G between Exynos 9810 vs Snapdragon 845? You already promised.
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 6 жыл бұрын
It is coming, like I promised.
@oliverliu5744
@oliverliu5744 6 жыл бұрын
@@GaryExplains thanks Prof
@brianrussell4871
@brianrussell4871 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video Gary, thank you. I love where Qualcomm is headed with the 8cx. Adreno is an anagram of Radeon. Qualcomm bought AMD's handheld IP aka the Imageon mobile GPU a few years ago. I'd love to see the two companies go in together on a high end, ultra low power GPU for laptops. We currently have Radeon Vega mobile and Adreno, both are good, but imagine an GPU born of Qualcomm and AMD's semi-custom division in SOCs and APUs.
@AnalogFoundry
@AnalogFoundry 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they'll scale it up from laptops to low-power desktops in the future.
@mocoj7423
@mocoj7423 5 жыл бұрын
If it's not Qualcomm that does it someone else inevitably will, ARM's seems like their goal is to eventually release a high-end CPU to compete with Intel and AMD in the desktop market. Apple will likely be the first to compete with their custom chips and I can see Qualcomm or maybe Nvidia releasing something similar shortly after. I say within 5 - 10 years ARM will for sure be in desktops on a competitive level.
@patdbean
@patdbean 4 жыл бұрын
@@mocoj7423 well we already have cavium thunders for servers, and Amazon's graviton A72 based server chip. Not to mention the new N1 cores designed by ARM specifically for servers and other infrastructure
@jinkazama7587
@jinkazama7587 5 жыл бұрын
Former AA sub and it's good I've discovered your channel Gary.
@abeplus7352
@abeplus7352 5 жыл бұрын
I'm actually really excited about this , coming from a cs background we learnt risc assembly and I got really interested with the platform and how it handles instructions , and inherently from the ground up it's efficient. I hope at some point they can release arm chips that are performance oriented . So like 40-50w on desktops and 25 watts on laptops. It would push developers on Windows to port their code on both platforms which would essentially create more competition in the desktop and laptop CPU market that's been dominated by Intel and amd(as of now) #ripviacpus
@OnlyKaerius
@OnlyKaerius 5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see one or more SMB using this chip. Seems like it could be an awesome emulation platform, as long as the emulator runs natively on ARM, it'll suffer no more performance loss in emulating than one running on x86, since it'll have to emulate anyway. Could be turned into the ultimate gaming handheld.
@OnlyKaerius
@OnlyKaerius 5 жыл бұрын
Sidenote to this: imagine a Nintendo Switch 2, running on 8cx instead of a Tegra x1.
@JeffSyam
@JeffSyam 4 жыл бұрын
You are now becoming make sense Gary :-)
@dineshpoudel6846
@dineshpoudel6846 5 жыл бұрын
Great!!thanks for the effort you put in to make us clear 😁
@1MarkKeller
@1MarkKeller 6 жыл бұрын
*GARY!!!* *Good Morning Professor!* *Good Morning Fellow Classmates!*
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 6 жыл бұрын
MARK!!!
@daniahmed
@daniahmed 6 жыл бұрын
Dude you should get hired by arm. You explanation arm peocessors in such detail.😇🤗😎
@Raja995mh33
@Raja995mh33 6 жыл бұрын
So basically Qualcomm took the QSD855, doubled it and called the result "QSD8cx". In my eye, this sounds like a super expensive chip which makes laptops really expensive too... I would still choose a intel processor just because it supports everything and not just a few dozen apps. And Laptops with intel processors are lasting almost as long as Qualcomm based laptops in reality. They were never even close to 20h battery life.
@Peachy-or-not
@Peachy-or-not 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly, why would you want a always on laptop anyways? I'd like my laptop to go to sleep when i'm not using it lol.
@circuit10
@circuit10 4 жыл бұрын
@@Peachy-or-not No, it would go to sleep, it means that it works like a phone where you don't have to shut it down fully and you can just pick it up and it can wake up instantly without you having to wait for ages for it to boot
@charbax
@charbax 5 жыл бұрын
I think Qualcomm has a say in retail price of these laptops, not just in terms of how much they charge for the CPU. For example for all previous high end Qualcomm smartphone chipsets, I think Qualcomm kind of has an approval process, that if smartphone makers want to release something that Qualcomm thinks is too cheap, then they don't provide the chip to them. Perhaps some exclusions have been Xiaomi and OnePlus and perhaps a few others but perhaps Qualcomm thought it was ok because mainly targetted outside of the US/EU market. Qualcomm wants to be associated with premium so they kind of want the products to be priced high. I wish Qualcomm to target also much lower priced devices in average. A sub-$500 Qualcomm 8cx based laptop with that whole 2Gbit LTE and everything would be awesome. I also think Microsoft has a say in encouraging it. For example Microsoft should do one of their Surface laptops using 8cx and price it at sub-$500 yet featuring all premium quality components, premium display, premium battery, premium keyboard, premium mousepad, premium build quality and everything.
@Derbauer
@Derbauer 5 жыл бұрын
great indepth video Gary, really enjoying your content. This development is very exciting for the future of computing.
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool video and information about this chip. I’m excited for the day we can start to look for machines on either Intel, AMD, or RISC architectures. Competition is good. (:
@oghenekaro
@oghenekaro 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Gary for this video. Since the 8CX is more powerful and they almost doubled everything, does it mean it might have a smaller battery life, using more power than the 850 or 835?
@masoudkhodadadi5838
@masoudkhodadadi5838 5 жыл бұрын
Best explanation i've ever seen! Thanks man
@hemanthkumarHere
@hemanthkumarHere 5 жыл бұрын
Finally an ARM based notebook. I have been dreaming this since i got my first RPi.
@taidee
@taidee 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏾 very much for explaining these things to us Gary. Tech world is very exciting and changing rapidly
@mayo2001
@mayo2001 5 жыл бұрын
I like your channel. You're always providing accurate informations, meaning you truly understand the topic you're talking about.
@bodiima8382
@bodiima8382 5 жыл бұрын
Gary.. You rock!! Thanks a lot..
@ov3rkill
@ov3rkill 6 жыл бұрын
Damn! Microsoft was way ahead of its time when they released Surface RT and the Windows RT. It just didn't match up on hardware level. Now, it's catching up and I think ARM will be the future. Anyway, for every subscribe to pewdiepie comments, there should also be subscribe to Gary Explains channel. Let's get this to 100k!
@deadlypyre
@deadlypyre 6 жыл бұрын
Why are you spreading about cancerous PewDiePie here. Keep it clean.
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think he is promoting PewDiePie, what he is saying is that if PewDiePie can have so many subscribers, then this channel should at least have 100K.
@deadlypyre
@deadlypyre 6 жыл бұрын
@@GaryExplains fair enough
@deadlypyre
@deadlypyre 6 жыл бұрын
@Troll Tommy Gaming here comes the 9year olds
@Pro720HyperMaster720
@Pro720HyperMaster720 5 жыл бұрын
If Microsoft would have planned and tell anything related to emulate and enable use x86 apps on RT, if that would have happened, Windows RT wouldn’t be the huge failure/fiasco that it was
@Fredd00007
@Fredd00007 5 жыл бұрын
Gary is my goto for getting a clear picture of what's what in the tech universe
@iamsteezze
@iamsteezze 6 жыл бұрын
Can you compare the Qualcomm Snapdragon 8cx to the Apple A12x?
@omotolaoyeniyi631
@omotolaoyeniyi631 6 жыл бұрын
I love this development, it's clearly opening doors for more
@valantinoagussutomo3088
@valantinoagussutomo3088 5 жыл бұрын
Best explanation between 855 anx 8CX. Great video
@DeneF
@DeneF 5 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Thank you. In case I missed it though. I presume these will be 5G ready?
@elimalinsky7069
@elimalinsky7069 6 жыл бұрын
Qualcomm claims we should expect performance similar to the Intel i7 U-class CPUs with the power efficiency of the i7 Y-class CPUs. The U-class CPUs have recently closed the gap with HQ-class laptop CPUs, to the point that HQ CPUs are now mostly targeted towards the gaming and professional markets, while the Y-class is just a bit more powerful that the severly underpowerd Celeron series, but gives you a very long battery life. If Qualcomm manages to pull this off then Microsoft ought to seriously consider pushing app developers into porting native third-party Windows apps to the ARM platform, as the emulation method implemented at the moment simply won't cut it in the long run.
@engislam90
@engislam90 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video Does other mobile SoC vendors like Mediatek and Hisilicon take the same path to create ARM based labtop SoCs?
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 5 жыл бұрын
Other Arm based SoCs are used in Chromebooks, but as far as I know the Windows 10 thing is an exclusive with Qualcomm for the moment.
@nathangamble125
@nathangamble125 5 жыл бұрын
13:43 It's a bit of a RISC. :D
@flashboyonly
@flashboyonly 5 жыл бұрын
This is ARM chip. You can install Windows ARM and Manjaro ARM on it. :) I hope Linux will work good on it. :)
@sergei9912
@sergei9912 5 жыл бұрын
x86 architecture is slowly reaching the final days of it's life cycle. It's good tho; ARM based tech is cheaper, more efficient and soon it will be head to head with Intel in terms of performance. When it comes to app compatibility, it's all about market share; as ARM architecture increases it's dominance, more and more apps will come with native ARM support.
@akasection
@akasection 5 жыл бұрын
Qualcomm with SOC is quite a monopoly tho. As you can see many things are embedded in one chip, while common laptops are separated, like you can replace wifi module, modem, RAM, etc. If the SOC breaks, there goes your laptop :) Have we seen this pattern in a certain "white colored fruit brand" devices?
@monkeymind3067
@monkeymind3067 5 жыл бұрын
@@akasection but that is what company wants
@kinocchio
@kinocchio 6 жыл бұрын
Will this force Apple to make A12X type processor for MacBook.
@trzero988
@trzero988 5 жыл бұрын
Nope as they already have been planning to make processors for their macbook since 2016.. Most rumors suggest they will do it in 2020.
@chanzhengfu6030
@chanzhengfu6030 6 жыл бұрын
But can it run crysis?
@atechnews3221
@atechnews3221 5 жыл бұрын
I miss this meme
@MoizCOUK
@MoizCOUK 5 жыл бұрын
it will run into crysis
@dr.zippymcscoots8725
@dr.zippymcscoots8725 5 жыл бұрын
More importantly, can it run halflife?
@tharv120
@tharv120 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing how we can say this about small chips now. We've come far.
@aadhilrf5782
@aadhilrf5782 5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@technoman8219
@technoman8219 6 жыл бұрын
Good morning Professor...Gary.. Where all my. Classmates???!!
@deadlypyre
@deadlypyre 6 жыл бұрын
*TECHNO !!!*
@technoman8219
@technoman8219 6 жыл бұрын
@@deadlypyre PYRE!!
@balancedperspective8253
@balancedperspective8253 6 жыл бұрын
We here
@rockstarrohanmc1754
@rockstarrohanmc1754 6 жыл бұрын
Techno!!!
@1MarkKeller
@1MarkKeller 6 жыл бұрын
*TECHNO!*
@LUKAS3675
@LUKAS3675 5 жыл бұрын
I just watched a demented comparison on PCWorld, but in the comments somebody had a decent idea: why not install linux (to solve the native vs emulated problem) on equally priced x86 and arm convertibles and make some real world test + benchmark? plus I'm dreaming of a collaboration between you and gamers nexus on the topic
@Blendedasian
@Blendedasian 5 жыл бұрын
You can't run linux on these things, the 'BIOS'-like layer is locked down by qualcomm and they keep any documentation secret, thus no linux now and very likely no linux ever, you only get to run what they programmed into it at the factory.
@LUKAS3675
@LUKAS3675 5 жыл бұрын
What a pity, is this the reason why we don't have Snapdragon Chromebook?
@Blendedasian
@Blendedasian 5 жыл бұрын
@@LUKAS3675 not sure if the manufacturers are uninterested or if qualcomm forbids non-android systems with their chips but i assure you if it was possible there would be tons of videos of people running debian linux on their smartphones and tablets, the chips are pretty damn fast and ubiquitous.
@subhajitdas2784
@subhajitdas2784 6 жыл бұрын
13:45 dammmm that was a good pun
@YurLord
@YurLord 5 жыл бұрын
Would it be cool if Nvidia partnered with Qualcomm for an awesome mobile gaming experience on a phone or laptop?
@edloki3057
@edloki3057 5 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see this processor in a Thinkpad with hot-swap batteries. I currently have a T470 with an extended battery and it does about 20hrs avg for my uses.
@alliejr
@alliejr 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant explanation. Thanks, Gary.
@efraim.
@efraim. 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Any laptop running 8cx has been released?
@vfn4i83
@vfn4i83 5 жыл бұрын
The question right now is: Wich cia. will addopt early the co-processor in the desktop scene? It seems that this is the only way forward, now days specially towards "energy efficiently"speaking!
@MegaMar20
@MegaMar20 6 жыл бұрын
i was waiting for this video. And, also want to say that now that Qualcomm is kind of catching up to Apple, it's now the responsibility of Microsoft to streamline the code of Windows 10 to match iOS in efficiency.
@TheZaman_
@TheZaman_ 6 жыл бұрын
Windows is not the problem since Windows run natively on ARM. The problem is legacy application aka x86 application.
@pegefounder
@pegefounder 5 жыл бұрын
I had 2010 my first ULV (Ultra Low Volt) notebook. Since 2016 on Linux Ubuntu on a Celeron N3150 CPU with only 5 W TDP. The Qualcomm development sounds great. Would be great to know, how far Linux software is for ARM.
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 5 жыл бұрын
For an idea of Linux on Arm look at Android, the Raspberry Pi, and the Amazon Graviton processor.
@yousufalbanna173
@yousufalbanna173 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome EXPLANATION 😎😎.. THNX BROTHA
@teleringdataspesialisten1869
@teleringdataspesialisten1869 6 жыл бұрын
What happen if you install Linux on it? Can it run games? Can it run games after Linux install? What if you install Android on it? O3O
@carholic-sz3qv
@carholic-sz3qv 6 жыл бұрын
It should probably work with android since almost every pc also can run android
@TheJunky228
@TheJunky228 6 жыл бұрын
linux does have a lot of software compiled for arm, and anything not precompiled can be compiled from source if you have access to the source (any foss). i think if you tried installing steam got more mainstream games it wouldn't work though
@eduardoavila646
@eduardoavila646 6 жыл бұрын
Android possibly not because android wouldnt have the support for the specific cpu, unless someone compiles for it, wich can eventually happen. Android x86 is made for x86 not arm, but then you dont just have a arm version of the x86 to be installed on the pc, only roms to be flashed in smartphones, and again, without the support for that specific not mobile targeted snapdragon. Only if someone goes their way to compile android x86 or create a new arm branch for desktop arm, that only if those laptops become more popular. Under linux, i dont know if there is, but i never heard of a compatibility layer, so only arm compiled programs would run, and steam games wouldnt.
@aviralrastogi
@aviralrastogi 6 жыл бұрын
@@eduardoavila646 Linux has been running on arm for quite a while now(even Windows can run on arm, so why not Linux). Did you forget about computers like Raspberry Pi or Arduino? Android also runs on arm chips outside of smartphones(ex: Rasp Pi). Not sure how much work will be required to run(or utilize all features of the chip) it on Snap 8cx.
@eduardoavila646
@eduardoavila646 6 жыл бұрын
Aviral Rastogi No, read again, what i said is that there isnt any x86 compatiblity layer under linux. All packages and programs wich work under arm compiled distros, are compiled specifically to arm. And no, initially linux wouldnt probably work under that chip, because of the initial lack of drivers until a update comes out. Or it would work unreliably or it would just kernel panic. Later on, maybe some weeks, maybe some months depending on how qualcom deals with drivers and the opensource community, it will work flawlesslly under linux just as any rapsberry, *but* still there wont be a x86 translation layer.
@serhioromano
@serhioromano 5 жыл бұрын
That doesn't make any sense to me. the whole point was not to get Qualcomm processors into PC computing the whole point was to get Windows into my phone. The hype and excitement was about that fact that eventually we will be able to install Windows 10 on the phone. If I need powerful computer why should I use at all Qualcomm processors?
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think the point was ever to get Windows into your phone. That strategy failed year ago and it failed for all the reasons I said it would years ago.
@nikhilpatil2705
@nikhilpatil2705 6 жыл бұрын
How does it perform ? Any reference as compared to Intel chip ?
@baitman546
@baitman546 6 жыл бұрын
It's said to have the same performance as the 15w i5 chip
@Luredreier
@Luredreier 6 жыл бұрын
+@@baitman546 Eh... I don't know about this particular chip. But I have a link to a video for a Snapdragon 835 chip here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYOTqZKvrZJpiMk Of course the video the two of us are actually commenting on is about the Snapdragon 8CX a more powerful chip. So we'll see...
@dampflokfreund
@dampflokfreund 5 жыл бұрын
@@baitman546 that statement means nothing. The question is, does it perform like a 15w i5 when doing x86 emulation, or does it perform like one with native ARM apps? Spoiler: its probably the latter one
@Luredreier
@Luredreier 5 жыл бұрын
+@@nickwarrior5 Those will be in a different market segment entierly...
@bobcoffee11
@bobcoffee11 5 жыл бұрын
Finally dual 4k monitor support, now my minesweeper game is getting the support it needs
@nicovolker86
@nicovolker86 5 жыл бұрын
I think Qualcomm is missing the mark a bit. On a laptop they can shift some of the SOC components into a motherboard, giving more space to the most important bits (CPU cores and GPU cores) or simply make a smaller chip...
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 5 жыл бұрын
And what would either of those two options achieve?
@gordonlawrence4749
@gordonlawrence4749 5 жыл бұрын
SSD is not static memory. Static memory is static RAM which is the ultra high speed RAM used for cache. Main memory is dynamic RAM but most people have forgotten this as it has a self-refresh function rather than being refreshed by an external controller like a 74S407 or a processor (like a Z80). SSD is actually FLASH ROM or EEROM depending on exact configuration with a truckload of control systems.
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, sorry I used the wrong word.
@gordonlawrence4749
@gordonlawrence4749 5 жыл бұрын
@@GaryExplains I was just correcting because some people new to this stuff could have got on the wrong foot. Anyone with experience would have known what you meant.
@lucky88shp
@lucky88shp 5 жыл бұрын
The future is changing with ARM becoming a real competition in mainstream PC market!
@CommodoreFan64
@CommodoreFan64 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, and I'll wait till I can get something like this for under $250 USD, and a great Linux distro like Mint with Mate desktop running on it.
@4.0.4
@4.0.4 5 жыл бұрын
There's a very faint music in the background and it's kinda annoying. I'm using headphones and thought some music was playing far away but it turns out it's in the video. It's faint enough that I don't think I'd even know there was a song without headphones. I think you added a noise gate (DSP) after mixing the song with the voice track, since the song fades away when you're not talking.
@jaikohn4754
@jaikohn4754 6 жыл бұрын
How about chip for tablets? Apple did it very well with iPad pro this year. Since android tablets still using a step back chip.
@OrangeRock
@OrangeRock 6 жыл бұрын
Well considering how things go usually Apple: Here's our new iPad it has our newest processor found on iPhones but much better version of it. Samsung: Here's our new galaxy tablet it has our last year's phone processor for $700. It might happen
@jaikohn4754
@jaikohn4754 6 жыл бұрын
They decided to use just 4G of RAM, I think they are confused that they are running iOS on their tablet.
@carholic-sz3qv
@carholic-sz3qv 6 жыл бұрын
The 8cx chip is made to be used in laptops and not tablets
@jaikohn4754
@jaikohn4754 6 жыл бұрын
@@carholic-sz3qv yeah, i know.
@ahmedchampion3687
@ahmedchampion3687 6 жыл бұрын
@@carholic-sz3qv nope surface pro lineup was and still using intel 15 Watt TDP or less..so in theory 8cx 7 Watt TDP could be used in tablet form factor !
@abymohanan2043
@abymohanan2043 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir for sharing this information with us🤘✌️👍
@philipwest4553
@philipwest4553 5 жыл бұрын
A bit wordy. Could say, ARM is for low power use, i86 is for high speed high power use. That's why ARM is for phones with tiny batteries and i86 is for mains power or big battery laptops.
@Mr.Nabil.Belhaj
@Mr.Nabil.Belhaj 6 жыл бұрын
this is definitely the futur of computing
@bloodaid
@bloodaid 5 жыл бұрын
Will we start seeing passively cooled high-end laptops now maybe?
@Obelixlxxvi
@Obelixlxxvi 6 жыл бұрын
How about a head to head comparison between this new chip and the Apple A12x ?
@eldonerc2524
@eldonerc2524 5 жыл бұрын
Is the power consumption of the cpu in a laptop the big concern? Would imagine the hard drive an display would be the big power draws on the system.
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 5 жыл бұрын
The typical Arm based "always connected PC" with Windows for Arm, has a battery life of 20 hours. So I guess yes is the answer.
@arianamirgholami9555
@arianamirgholami9555 6 жыл бұрын
Hello professor is there any benchmarks yet? And does it support external GPU or not?
@1MarkKeller
@1MarkKeller 6 жыл бұрын
*ARIAN!*
@arianamirgholami9555
@arianamirgholami9555 6 жыл бұрын
@@1MarkKeller yes thats my name
@ClaytonRego
@ClaytonRego 5 жыл бұрын
AMD too, I've had more overall system stability between AMD and ARM
@vacate81
@vacate81 5 жыл бұрын
What's the benchmark scores against Intel chips
@Mullerchiropractic
@Mullerchiropractic 5 жыл бұрын
I've heard from another source that the x86 platform is nearly maxed out on its performance, but the Arm is poised to exceed this barrier. Would you agree? Also, duel 4k monitors? At what fps/ render and connection type in relation to gaming, video editing & graphic design?
@AdamSmith-gs2dv
@AdamSmith-gs2dv 5 жыл бұрын
INTELs x86 is, AMD 7nm Zen 2 is going to be a beast
@vivek416416
@vivek416416 6 жыл бұрын
Great explanation... Thanks. Please answer some questions: 1.But what about 3rd party softwares like IBM SPSS, or other engineering software? 2. What is the performance comparable to in Intel language means i3/i5/i7 etc.?
@MiguelAngel-rw7kn
@MiguelAngel-rw7kn 6 жыл бұрын
Everything that is made for x86/64 is going to be emulated. And on that mode the performance is going to be at least better than an ATOM: www.techspot.com/review/1599-windows-on-arm-performance/page2.html The few things that will be compiled on ARM will run at least as fast as an i5. Maybe a bit faster as they will not have that much crap code
@manbir63
@manbir63 6 жыл бұрын
Best person to explain everything in detail
@itsmikemccall
@itsmikemccall 5 жыл бұрын
Qualcomm could jump on board the Chromebook bandwagon, It's going really well and requires minimal power
@rmdhn1
@rmdhn1 5 жыл бұрын
but is it available for desktop / pc building
@azdalani
@azdalani 6 жыл бұрын
Can you make a comparison and a speed test to A12x Bionic for the new ipad
@technoman8219
@technoman8219 6 жыл бұрын
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@YoungDen
@YoungDen 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gary was just wondering what the difference is
@Arpin_Lusene
@Arpin_Lusene 5 жыл бұрын
I would definitely be ok with ARM coming into laptop/pc market and actually become legit competitor for intel and amd. I'm tired of all this "We got this incredible amount of processing power!" eventhough the cooler is barely able to keep it cool enough to not burn itself out. I think they reached what maximum power can reach for now, given how hard it is to cool down the cpu. It's time for more efficient chip to shine now.
@SuperDesignguy
@SuperDesignguy 5 жыл бұрын
How about Adobe photoshop? I hear it's being developed for iOS ( full version).. So will it be relatively easy to port iOS photoshop for arm to Android? Or will that be another hurdle?
@AdamSmith-gs2dv
@AdamSmith-gs2dv 5 жыл бұрын
No it won't be easy, Apples and Qualcomms Arm chips are completely different
@xentiment6581
@xentiment6581 6 жыл бұрын
So, Adreno 540 (SD835) has 567 GFlop/s. 3.5x that ends up in 1984.5 GFlop/s. That is equal performance of PlayStation 4 or a bit slower than 1050Ti. At 7W, I doubt that is possible in any way.
@hyakinthos_0902
@hyakinthos_0902 6 жыл бұрын
there are float 16,32 and 64 so you cant just multiply by 3.5 to get a rough float performance we will have to wait for real life benchmarks to verify it actually performs 3.5x more
@xentiment6581
@xentiment6581 6 жыл бұрын
@@hyakinthos_0902 All data I referenced are in FPU32 and provided by SoC-L and GPU-L apps. My guess is that it is as usual, just in one certain workload, but to be honest even 1500 GFlop/s is damn lot.
@hyakinthos_0902
@hyakinthos_0902 6 жыл бұрын
@@xentiment6581 exactly that's what i was thinking it can be only on certain loads we will have to wait as you mentioned fp32 cannot 3.5x like that.
@MiguelAngel-rw7kn
@MiguelAngel-rw7kn 6 жыл бұрын
@@xentiment6581 Mobile is usually 16bit... It's the same with the A12X, their >1.4Gflops reference to the xbox one is on FP16.
@trzero988
@trzero988 5 жыл бұрын
Gflops aren't reliable if you are going to compare mobile processors I would wait for GFXBench results instead to see where it stacks up.
@saiphaneeshk.h.5482
@saiphaneeshk.h.5482 5 жыл бұрын
Is it powerful enough for 4k video editing? As it has 8 cores n its clock speed is comparable with desktop...
@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt
@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, I saw that it was Dec 2018 so thought oooh I wonder how many laptops are using this chip now. I can't find a single one nor a real product about to be release either. What's the deal with that???
@psionx1
@psionx1 5 жыл бұрын
it's 7nm but it's TSMC's 7nm which by their own admission is equivalent to intels original 10nm process under kabyake. but sunny cove could easily be faster.
@kanumanu1656
@kanumanu1656 6 жыл бұрын
"Please let me explain" I like it.
@EnochGitongaKimathi
@EnochGitongaKimathi 5 жыл бұрын
It is a huge RISC going down this path but well worth it if it improves battery life to days rather than hours!
@eliinthewolverinestate6729
@eliinthewolverinestate6729 5 жыл бұрын
Arm architecture uses less processes to get from a to b. The arm processor is programmed to run 86x and its exploits. Just like my Intel chip in my tablet runs android a Linux distro and Debian/Ubuntu. Arm don't make chips they make architecture images and test chips. Someone else produces them for market.
@StevenAkinyemi
@StevenAkinyemi 5 жыл бұрын
How does Adreno compare to Nvidia GPUs though? I'm assuming it's gonna be in the low-end tier.
@asheiji7205
@asheiji7205 5 жыл бұрын
It is purpose built for pc but can it run on android os? What if they make android tablets with sd 8cx will it out perform A bionic chip from apple?
@bdr1414TV
@bdr1414TV 6 жыл бұрын
1- when r we going to see a speed test g for an exynos device 2- is it possible to add an image recognition app to test the AI capability of different SOC, now that NPUs r becoming more mainstream and is it also possible to make the test show the time with milliseconds
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 6 жыл бұрын
1 - When I have one ready. 2 - Please see the FAQ: garyexplains.com/faq
@bdr1414TV
@bdr1414TV 6 жыл бұрын
@@GaryExplains ❤️👍 thx man your speed test videos r awesome
@me7229
@me7229 6 жыл бұрын
Finally!!! Gary is so good at explain this in easy to understand language for the lay person .
@abaundwal
@abaundwal 5 жыл бұрын
Making 7nm chipsets is probably harder than making 14nm ones. Of course these laptops will be expensive. Great explanation btw !!!
@medman36
@medman36 5 жыл бұрын
I would be willing to try Qualcom for windows, but its windows turn now to catch up on half-baked features and UI for windows 10. They're increasingly lagging behind in finishing several features of the last three years both native and new in the last 3 years. If that was more up to scratch and ready today I would be willing to take the risk on hardware. Hardware on windows has been getting fine, its the OS now lagging behind in my experience.
@greypatch8855
@greypatch8855 5 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping for a fade away from the x86 architecture
Do we really need NPUs now?
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