What Is The Western Most Point In Europe?

[@mdg936]

"Anything is valid if you just use enough words and reasons" (2cat, 2021).

[@maple494]

so deep :0

[@LordMelbury1953]

That’s the current way it seems, your truth her truth , truth is malleable these days.

[@macaroon_nuggets8008]

@@LordMelbury1953 Nah, it's aleays been that way.

[@garyhood4153]

@@macaroon_nuggets8008 Yup. It’s called sophistry.

[@ianbenicio1035]

Pro tip : you can watch movies on flixzone. I've been using them for watching loads of movies lately.

[@desanipt]

2:37 "Barraca abana" literally means "(the) hut shakes" and is a very popular catch phrase from a tv comedy sketch from the early 2000's here in Portugal. (In the shop there, they added the "Q(ue)" which makes it "hut that shakes"). I remember a lot of puns being made with the name of Barack Obama when he became president 😅

[@LordMelbury1953]

Love it 😊

[@olympus4628]

Funny 🤠

[@Suppple]

Cool 😎

[@reapd2576]

Interesting 😲

[@androlsaibot]

So "Copa Q'abana" would be "the cup that shakes"?

[@SkyrimHod]

If you use the international dateline as the boundary, Alaska contains the northernmost, westernmost, AND easternmost points in the US.

[@Marczking]

how does the eastern part work though? Is some part of Alaska on the other side of the dateline?

[@SkyrimHod]

@@Marczking Yes, some of the Aleutian Islands are.

[@oscartheamazing6745]

No, no part of Alaska crosses the dateline, you're thinking of the Prime Meridian. (Which you could also use to decide east and west)

[@stevenhale2935]

@@oscartheamazing6745 nice knowledge

[@masterkanalen8449]

Alaska crosses the anti meridian, but they moved the international dateline to between Russia and USA

[@gaymoder]

what i expected: toycat explaining where the westernmost point of europe is what i end up watching: - toycat bullying spanish speakers and their continents - - east and west are a social construct -

[@lucybrazier]

if you expected toycat to give you a direct answer you was wrong for thinking that ;)

[@BradTheThird]

- There are only two horizontal cardinal directions -

[@Hordil]

@@BradTheThird Did you just assume my geographical orientation ?!?

[@BradTheThird]

@@Hordil Trans-Atlantic IS Atlantic!

[@nevreiha]

Thumbnail: eastern Europe title: westernmost point I am afraid of what you have to say in your elevated form

[@AbrahamLincoln4]

Spoiler: It's in Southern Africa

[@aviz8590]

@Carlos Augusto Teixeira Da Silva no it’s Kuwait? Some people these days amiright

[@Kromiball]

@@aviz8590 no its in inner mongolia idot

[@alexandergunn5143]

@ nahhh it's the Central African Republic

[@krillion177]

@@alexandergunn5143 obviously its the Independent and Sovereign Republic of Kiribati

[@JackFromTapas]

“imagine if spain didn’t exist, then you can imagine what bermuda is like.” -2cat

[@Duck-wc9de]

"imagine if spain didn’t exist..." every portuguese: Yes, i can imagine.

[@jonasmartens3204]

Spain disappeared in the Bermuda Triangle

[@kilbonrobert]

1:04 Actually, there is a *_little_* bit of Portugal that is further east than that. Check Lisbon, and draw a line from there to that other place.

[@geometryjumpfl2784]

Cabo da Roca

[@GazilionPT]

0:47 You pointed to the peninsula of Peniche, which is NOT the westernmost point of continental Europe. Cabo da Roca, a few km down the coast, is the correct answer.

[@joemiller947]

Buddy

[@sledgehog1]

Exactly! Thank you for pointing that out! Cabo da Roca, in Colares, is THE Western end of Continental Europe.

[@bart1879]

I was about to write that

[@jw3505]

As someone who has ADHD I very much appreciate your random tangents. Also… you probs have ADHD 😂

[@spazvevo5368]

Im waiting to hear French Guinea and see the Eiffel Tower map

[@terahlunah]

I guess you meant French Guiana

[@spazvevo5368]

@@terahlunah yes thank you

[@stevenhale2935]

Now I want the Canadian areas that contain the Eiffel tower map

[@AFAndersen]

If you've watched any 2cat before, you know it's not gonna be Iceland, Azores, Greenland or any of these early suggestions!

[@stevenhale2935]

I'm feeling it's gonna end up being in the southwest pacific because of colonialism

[@magicmaniac0129]

"Don't make up your own rules because it gets to make Iceland special." My favourite time pass has become invalid :(

[@LukeAmaral]

11:47 fun fact, the Treaty of Tordesillas was made before they had discovered South America, so they didn't know it cut through part of America (the idea was for the Americas to belong to Spain and Africa to Portugal) and the Portuguese arrived in Brazil by accident while going around a storm on their way to India going around Africa and noticed that land was on their side of the Treaty, so they claimed it theirs.

[@DanielSantos-xj9nb]

Of course the portuguese didn't arrived in Brazil by accident, there are multiple indications that the portuguese were well aware of the existence of land west of Africa, before the official arrival in 1500. Otherwise, why would John II demand that the line of the treaty would be moved further to the west?

[@tiagoprado7001]

"Imagine if Spain didn't exist" Bermuda sounds lovely then!

[@Duck-wc9de]

"Imagine if Spain didn't exist" every portuguese: "belive me, i can imagine"

[@fabianniestegge4105]

Nobody expects the non-existing Inquisition

[@lhaviland8602]

"I've never trusted those east people" -ibx2cat, 2021.

[@aviz8590]

Because the anti meridian passes through part of Russia shouldn’t part of Siberia be the westernmost point of europe (according to your definition)?

[@stevenhale2935]

Tasty

[@aviz8590]

@@stevenhale2935 very.

[@ML-rk2cx]

I came to the comments to say exactly this! I honestly thought that this was where the video would ultimately conclude. After all, at one point in the video, he defined any territory that belongs to a European country as being included in this, even if that territory is physically in another continent. So Russia has territory in Asia that goes so far East, it crosses the anti-meridian therefore becoming West, making it the territory the furthest West that belongs to a European country.

[@milan99cz]

God, I love these videos so much

[@jamiecook1522]

Got to love the cook islands

[@MrOlek700]

Name checks out.

[@ibx2cat]

Are they implying that all other islands are raw?

[@jamiecook1522]

@@ibx2cat Well has anyone eaten one to see if they are raw?

[@frenchfriar]

While the question of "What's the westernmost point of Europe" is simplified if you specify the mainland continent, and not the possessions of its countries, that doesn't help narrow the definition for "What's the Easternmost point or Europe?", since that depends on what you include in Europe. Is Turkey in Europe? Is Russia? The Urals? Basically, the answer to any such question of "how far does ___ extend?" is "Well, it depends on how you define "___".

[@NbNb-nl4jt]

“I’m scared of islands” -British person 2021

[@Nikodemeq]

you are nice to watch, you are a good person for making such videos

[@TomWatsonB1]

Disappointed you didn't mention Cabo da Roca, which is the westernmost point on the European mainland. You instead focused in on Peniche, Portugal, which is not as far west, in actuality. You can see Cabo da Roca from the western balcony of Pena Palace, on the summit of a very high hill in beautiful Sintra, Portugal. One of my favorite places I've traveled to in Europe.

[@pauvermelho]

Yep

[@HDTomo]

I've always been a geography and history sort of guy. Ibx2cat and Ibxtoycat combined are a masterpiece

[@keiranleonard1301]

This guys personality is so endearing

[@ibx2cat]

No u

[@squatchyburger5957]

"If you think about it, anything is valid if you just use enough words and reasons" Toycat-2021

[@realhawaii5o]

0:50 Peniche is wrong. It's cabo da Roca closer to Sintra.

[@AtomicOpenHouse]

Nobody: Europe: MR. WORLDWIDE

[@leemsvg]

Fun Fact: My dad does Ancestry, and my dad is the 4th or 5th cousin of the president of French Polynesia

[@misspat7555]

"Indeed, nothing is certain, except the heat death of the universe and everyone you've ever known or loved. Goodbye!" Well, that was a hard crash back to reality. 😬

[@ananttiwari1337]

7:35 I mean everyone does technically just live on a huge island right? 😂

[@colonelpotato5552]

Only toycat can turn this into a 17 minute video

[@oshead]

The most western point of Europe can only be reasonably measured by the continental shelf which is the south west of Ireland near a beautiful town called Dingle.

[@monstercrx]

I appreciate you typed all that just to mention Dingle

[@kabalofthebloodyspoon]

One time I was curious how deep rule 34 goes and maps are part of it. All kinds of erotic maps exist

[@Calistarius79]

Take a very close look at the Baltic Sea, Gulf of Bothnia, Gulf of Finland, and the Gulf of Riga... and look at them as a whole, to see what it looks like. If that does not work... then imagine that the very top section of the Gulf of Bothnia is a man's head seen from his right side, so he is looking towards the east... and then imagine that the very bottom right of the Baltic Sea (where roughly Poland and Lithuania meet) is the mans knee... And then, with what I said above in mind... *really closely*... look at what all of those 4 bodies of water looks like when looked at as a whole... trust me... once you see it, you can never unsee it... XD And amusingly enough, it is sort of historically correct as well... XD The first time I noticed this was back in the late 80's in school, but being shy and all I just never told anyone. What has surprised me though is that considering the size of the internet, and how many people use it, and how humans are sort of hardcoded to see patterns and what not... an unbelievably low amount of people have ever mentioned it online. XD

[@kabalofthebloodyspoon]

@@Calistarius79 I can’t ever unsee it now and I don’t want to rotfl

[@a___ab___b9896]

@@Calistarius79 Oh no.

[@Calistarius79]

@@kabalofthebloodyspoon Hmm... I am a bit unclear what you mean. Don't want to see it, or don't want to unsee it? XD

[@Calistarius79]

@@a___ab___b9896 Oh no indeed... the ocean has always had a tendency to be able to fuck things up... but this was probably not what most of us imagined... XD

[@JmKrokY]

9:58 Can't you just keep going north until you go south?

[@specter8660]

Looks like even Toycat's videos are experiencing jet lag

[@azcarth1125]

5:17 ayyyy he noticed my country!

[@petoxeye]

yet another very useful video, good job toycat! :')

[@leightontreharne9134]

"People want to say oh the north american plate cuts throu... come on you know thats not how we do continents" Russia: Allow me to introduce myself

[@elchewpacabras3732]

Parts of the Amazon river is wider than the Strait of Dover.

[@scoopedmelon]

toycat i dont know if you read these but youre my favourite youtuber i love how you teach i wish you were my teacher

[@LukeAmaral]

0:47 you're pointing at the wrong place on the western most point in mainland Portugal. It's actually further south just west of Lisbon in Cabo da Roca. I've been there. They even have a sign there which says "Western most point of the European Continent" or should I say "Ponta mais ocidental do continente Europeu" since it's written in Portuguese for some reason.

[@igorsmihailovs52]

This man is incredible. In every sense of the word.

[@luisgoncalosilva6194]

0:48 Not to be annoying, but what you show is "Peniche" and the actually most western point in continental Europe is "Cabo da Roca" close to the town of Sintra, just a little bit south from Peniche.

[@thelusogerman3021]

Fun fact it is theorized that the reason for Portugal having access to part of south america in the treaty of Tordesilhas is because portugalnactually already knew about south america and just kept it a secret until they couldn't anymore, so they negotiated with the pope to have that bit of what is now brazil so they could then expand it a lot (which we did look at the size of brazil vs the size of the land given to us in the treaty lol)

[@Omar-cw5gg]

Before watching the video, I’m calling it right now. French Polynesia is Europe’s westernmost point Edit: Let’s go!!! I got it

[@FaggySauce]

I like these videos about geography and the politics videos

[@junovzla]

"Europe is a pretty nice place, In fact it is a place so nice that I even live there, most of the time" -2cat, 2021; colorised

[@cosmic0808]

4:18 Thank you for pronouncing it correctly, it's quite rare that actually happens

[@Mozzermarr10]

cool videos. love your work.

[@louclarcen5690]

I would also like to know the answer to this question: what is the farthest point in Europe from the sea/ocean? (Both including and not including Russia.)

[@brandonm8901]

I know there are "continental poles of inaccessibility" but I think that takes the whole Eurasian continent and is somewhere on the China/Kazakhstan border

[@louclarcen5690]

@UpNorth Cool! I was trying to figure it out using a circle tool on Google Maps. I didn't think of Belarus, but that's a good point. It looks to me like Drahňov barely beats out southeastern Belarus.

[@boltaurelius376]

The Jovian moon Europa is pretty considerably far.

[@louclarcen5690]

@@boltaurelius376 What part of Europa is farthest from the sea/ocean? And what sea/ocean is it closest to?

[@boltaurelius376]

@@louclarcen5690 It's closest to it's own sub surface ocean, I guess.

[@AFAndersen]

If you use the date line as the "end of west" and "start of east", then France is both the most western and eastern country in Europe, and there's only 2600km between the westernmost point of europe and the easternmost point of europe.

[@billylawuk]

I too am an Afroeurasian, how do you do

[@tanyabailey6527]

Afroeurasian Supremacist here. We are destined to rule over the Oceanian and American continents 😎

[@samuelvdlh2200]

I'm afroeurasianamericanoceanian

[@joundii3100]

@@samuelvdlh2200 I am Afroeurasianamericanoceaniantartican

[@ihathtelekinesis]

How do you do, fellow Afroeurasian? (also nice 🅱️rofile 🅱️ic)

[@SuperMistertoast]

You guys are so simple minded. Join the Pangaeists!

[@decorn2542]

I think you forgot to go on Google street view, I'm very disappointed

[@veryblocky]

Nah, I’d say it’s the Azores

[@arkaig1]

Ok, but the only way you know you aren't still going north or south is when the navigator says "uh ah, you're going the other way again". :)

[@7lllll]

i would like to see a poll on this

[@ananttiwari1337]

the side at which you drive can actually be important. Driving on the left means people's better eye (right eye) look at the middle of the road, and thus see cars more easily, and thus reduce the chances of car accidents.

[@MrBlackCoffee96]

This video is the definition of true rambling 😂

[@うきあ39]

He legit just smoked weed, took out a map, and started recording.

[@Eggu-san]

Your speech at the end hit different XD

[@akosmolnar5336]

Toycat be like: "But wait! THERE IS MORE!!!"

[@furn6341]

If a 25 mile strait between France and the UK is not a continental divide, then how the hell and who the hell considers the Bosphorus (maybe 650m at its narrowest) falsefully a continental divide while it clearly is not.

[@la_skltn]

wait north and south are also arbitrary, you can keep going after you get there, spheres are special when it comes to 3d objects

[@AndyZach]

Not really. The axis of rotation defines two unique points which we call the North Pole and the South Pole. But any spherical or 3d coordinate system is arbitrary, so you're somewhat right too.

[@night-sky_]

technically Denmark is in North America and Europe, so they have both cities in europe and Greenland

[@bennettthomas1910]

There is a rock about 10x10 feet off the coast of California owned by Spain. I can now say I have kayaked to Spain from California and back.

[@lukelopez1099]

Hi Toycat!

[@kaede2282]

If you count greenland as part as Denmark,when even if it is,it barely is,then canada is basically still UK

[@Mr.Plant1994]

My assumption before watching the video was that it’s either iceland, or some technicality because of a overseas colony.

[@Nomenooooo]

Title: Most western part of Europe Thumbnail: Has an arrow in the eastern side

[@Hordil]

I missed the mention of "Französisch-Guayana" or in english "French Guiana" ( that Difference always tricks me when there is talk about Guyana.. since its also valid in german to say Französisch-Guyana xD ) Oh and I missed a map of continental plates that shows us whats the real deal! :o

[@yodef6828]

As a Spaniard i do not even know how to feel about all the comments that 2cat made about Spain.

[@sledgehog1]

Cabo da Roca, Portugal, is THE Western end of Continental Europe, not Peniche. Fair attempt, though. :)

[@theshowman22]

0:30 Australia is not a continent, it’s a country in Oceania

[@john27638]

He was too afraid to go for the eastern most point

[@kid_doonski]

Today's lesson was that considering all opinions and interpretations are confusing. Thank you Andrew Toycat Andrews 👍

[@applepieke6970]

0:44 i cant be the only one who would have gone to iceland

[@Luredreier]

3:52 That map marking the Sinai peninsula as a part of Africa is just outright wrong according to the way I've learned the continents. For us continent borders *can* and *will* cross through countries. So Turkey, Armenia, Russia etc, all have parts that's European and parts that's not.

[@karsentube13yt]

The Sinai peninsula is part of Asia, all of panama is part of North America, Greenland is to Denmark what Bermuda is to the UK, and Iceland is the westernmost point of Europe

[@AndyZach]

Unless you start counting territories and possessions. Even East and West are arbitrary on a sphere.

[@fjellyo3261]

Can we all agree it's açores ,because of the European tectonic plate.

[@Ferreira0504]

7 out of 9 are, but Flores and Corvo are on the North American tectonic plate.

[@fjellyo3261]

@@Ferreira0504 that's true. I meant the most western Island on the European plate.

[@Joostuh]

Did you know you can't actually drive on the left side of the road, because there is only a right side and a wrong side.

[@Lemosa3414]

According to this guy's logic, New Mexico was in Europe during the Spanish Empire lol

[@night-sky_]

technically the british islands east of europe or the French, near Antarctica, east of europe

[@FewVidsJustComments]

the largest country in euroupe is greenland (or denmark, depending on wether you count greenland as its own country or not)

[@michaels2007]

Toy cats spent so much time on the internet he’s starting to sound American lmao 😂

[@johanfagerstromjarlenfors]

It is so confusing with english language… In swedish we make a difference between ”continent” and something we call ”world part”. Continent is a physical body of land (with its islands).. So for example africa, australia or asia…. Well still not easy since what is a part of a continent or what is its own continent still isn’t really clear… Eurasia+africa sometimes is one but often two but also three 😅 america can be one or two… But ”world part”… that is defined from history, culture and politics. But in english continent kinda serves both meanings and that is confusing.

[@HDTomo]

Fun fact: the Pitcarn island was actually meant to be taken over redditors in a reddit island project recently but then someone came and lied they owned an island and scammed them

[@connor_s66]

I live in Newfoundland let’s go best province in Canada. Also I think toycat is the first person ever to pronounce Newfoundland correctly

[@SteinGauslaaStrindhaug]

Could we not just define 90 degrees west on the equator as the "West Pole", and 90 degrees east as the "East Pole"? Though those locations is a bit boring since they are both in the sea; also the 0,0 (the "Origin") point is also in the sea... So I propose that we shift the 0 meridian 10 degrees east, that way the new Origin at 0, 0 is in on land in Gabon (currently 0,10), the West Pole would be in mainland Equador (currently 0,-80), the East Pole would be in Indonesia (currently 0,100). And the date line would still be in the middle of the Pacific Ocean not causing any more issues than it currently does.

[@SteinGauslaaStrindhaug]

Or maybe shift it by 20 degrees east, that way, the 0 meridian and the associated timezone would include even more land in Africa, and europe, and it could be also retroactively be defined as Cape Agulhas the southern tip of africa which seems slightly less arbitrary and anglocentric than Greenwich does (while still being a simple round number shift from the old coordinate system). And the east pole (still Indonesia) and west pole (Brazil this time) would still be on land!

[@SteinGauslaaStrindhaug]

Or better yet Move 0 meridian to the current 160 degrees west, so that 0,0 is in the middle of the ocean, to minimize the risk of uninitialized coordinate fields causing seemingly valid location data for somewhere on land (maybe nautical coordinates should be shifted 180 degrees from that to avoid the same issue?) And then we could number the meridians going west from 0 to < 360; so we dont have to deal with E/W prefixes or negative numbers.. Or better yet just ditch degrees and use fractions of a turn instead (so 90 degrees is 0.25 turns)!

[@mishtav]

I think I draw the line at iceland

[@AndyZach]

Iceland's a good compromise since the two plates meet there. However, as toycat explains, it depends on whether you want a geographical or political definition of a continent.

[@greasycheese1957]

as someone who lives on a very big island: laughs in australian

[@Calvinioli]

Wait since Russia is part of Europe, and if you are measuring distance from the prime meridian, Russia would be on the other side of the world. Meaing you could count all of Russia to be Europpean. Meaning the border between Latvia Estonia and Russia could be argued to be the western most part of Europe. Even though it is east of the line.

[@dashnama]

you are amazing

[@lilythium]

0:50 the western most point of portugal isnt that, it's lower, it's called cabo da roca

[@ryandoesstuffapparently1540]

I didn’t patreon and now I have no legs.

[@than217]

I blew my mind.

[@viktorhelgi]

I actually had this same thought a little while ago and came to the exact same conclusion😆

[@dylreesYT]

😂😂😂 that sponsor was amazing

[@BrunoAlves-rj5uw]

If we only count the european plaque it would be still Portugal as the Azores are in North American, European and African plaques.

[@geometryjumpfl2784]

0:47 you got it wrong my man

[@ignemuton5500]

toycat, have you ever heard of google books?