What is the Z97 Express Chipset ft. ASUS TUF Motherboards - Sabertooth + Gryphon

[@KurtGrosser]

I won't be upgrading anytime soon. I just built my Z87 system back in January. 4770K and a Maximus VI Hero. Gets the job done wonderfully, no need for upgrades.

[@Oyamada13]

Thanks, Linus. In this video, you provided the needed information so most people, who isn't a tech expert, can make informed decision. As expected, the CPU from the current Haswell to the refresh to the Broadwell will work for both the z87 and the z97. Also, the motherboard only support DDR3 and not DDR4, like how people seriously believe it is without looking at the spec of the board. The main difference is the SATA Express and M.2 Storage Capability. Both are great added feature for increase speed for SSD drive but not so much for mechanic drive (yes, there are people that still prefer mechanic drives...). So, is this worth the upgrade if you have the z87? If you are using SATA SSD or planning to buy drives for the M.2, then this is a decent upgrade. However, if you are still sticking with mechanic drive (o.O;;) or you are a budget buyer will are saving money for major changes, then these motherboard might not be right for you. Now, if you excuse me... I will be pre-ordering these baby... Planning to get the Haswell refresh and upgrading my SSDs... *runs*

[@gabrielsande4477]

Still using an x58 i7-920 @3.8Ghz and not thinking about upgrading for the moment... I think I won't upgrade until it breaks just for a 20-25% better gaming performance...

[@bentheguy101]

Linus got a haircut

[@watts300]

We still have a four year old H55M-E33 mother board. It hasn't been replaced because of a couple reasons -- it still works, and I'm cheap. It actually works really well and I'm very pleased. All of the components connected to it make for a pretty decent game computer. Certainly not modern tech, but it plays all of the PS3-era games with ease.

[@sarfured]

I'm keeping my: MSI SKT P67a-c45 i5-2500K @5.5GHz GTX 550 TI 8GB RAM This build was my first build from scratch and MSI has treated me so great. I'm sticking by MSI boards for the foreseeable future.

[@triseebee]

What the fuck have you got cooling that I5 and what is the voltage?!

[@sarfured]

triseebee Shocked me too. I'm only running an Antec H20 620. I give the real credit to the 2 Noctua NF-F12's I use on the radiator. Keep in mind though that the CPU is turbo-ing at 5.5 thanks to MSI's OC Genie. I was going to overclock it myself, but I noticed my board was doing a damn fine job on it's own. I've seen it hit 110*F max, but only rarely.

[@TheRealEZOverdose]

sarfured 110f is about 44c at 5.5ghz with a 120mm self contained cooler... maybe at idle or browsing the web. i smell something and it isnt your cpu melting....

[@MennoGanzeboom]

Don't you mean 4,5GHz? 5,5GHz isn't possible with a single 120mm radiator. I have a i7-3770K with a dual 140mm radiator and it's hitting under load max 60 degrees at 4,5GHz. Oké, mine's a gen 3 processor and yours a gen 4 processor, but I'm sure it doesn't make that much of a difference.

[@Belfor09]

***** His CPU is gen 2 which is Sandy Bridge. Yours is gen 3 which is Ivy Bridge. Everyone knows that Sandy bridge is perfect for overclock but 5.5 GHZ its a bit optimistic.. Another thing that you have to realize is that his CPU is i5 w/o HT and yours is i7 with HT. Hyperthreaded CPU's such as i7 have problems with very high OC unless you disable HT in your Bios.

[@GOPACKERSJT]

I'm still happy with my Z77 MSI GD-65 and i5 2500k. I'm gonna wait for a SERIOUS upgrade before I drop the cash and upgrade everything.

[@kieran142110]

So its zee87 and zed97 makes total sense. Well done Linus

[@Leester-70]

He's Canadian, they go both ways.

[@Wagzy]

Eh, I finished my build a few months ago. I7 4770k, Asus Hero Mobo, 780ti. I won't be upgrading for a while, when I do need to upgrade, I'll overclock the heck out of it!

[@WopActual]

Well said. I'm pretty much in the same boat.

[@MsHUGSaLOT]

Sandro Di Matteo me too. I just built my pc almost 2 years ago, and just recently updated to a GTX 980 GPU, and I'm extremely happy. Right now I have. Intel i7-3820 Quad Core 3.6Ghz LGA2011 (Sandy Bridge E) ASUS STRIX GTX 980 Asus P9X79 G.Skill 4x4GB DDR3 1600 RAM (Quad Channel) Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU HSF SAMSUNG 840 Pro SSD (256Gb boot) and SAMSUNG Spinpoint F1 (1TB storage) HDD So, all i need to do is get a water cooling kit (and a larger case) for the CPU and overclock my CPU past 4.5Ghz. Which i can almost do semi-stably now with the Hyper 212 evo, but it still BSoD's from time to time so i just need better cooling.

[@NicolSD]

I have a C602 chipset motherboard. When you run two E5 series Xeons, you don't change every year or even every other year. That's a system built to last a very long time.

[@Maxtez]

If I got a Z97 motherboard and a Broadwell CPU, could I have RAM that exceeds 1.5V?

[@SeraNeph]

Still keeping my near 2 year old 3570k. I always upgrade my PC for every 5 years.

[@werethless12]

I'm tempted to as well... But my current mobo (Asus P8Z77-V LX) is spitting out incorrect things, apparently it's 121C right now...

[@Xendra]

Yeah ive got a 3570k as well and its still kicking just fine. I'll probably upgrade whenever DDR4 becomes reasonably available

[@TheRealEZOverdose]

werethless12LP i have a sabertooth x79 board thats said something like that from day 1 in hwmonitor but only hwmonitor. it goes up over 100c at idle and goes down to 20c under load. just a false reading or bad sensor for me or it wouldnt have lasted this long (almost 2 years)

[@amharris]

I'm still rocking a B3 Rev. P8P67 Deluxe and a 2500K. I just see very few reasons - if any - to upgrade right now; unless you need more of a workstation-grade platform, in which case I'd opt for X79, (which is ageing in itself, now). SATA Express is probably the only reason that I would consider an upgrade; but for that alone? Most definitely not.

[@JtwasLuck]

Upgrading every 5 years definitely works out well if you don't stick to mainstream Z87s/Z270s! But hell the market for CPU's has stagnated so much that even Haswell CPUs today are barely different in gaming compared to the latest Skylake or whatever is the latest now (Kaby Lake?). So glad I went with a 4790K when I had the option to go X99, if this was 10 years ago I might have been in trouble XD

[@triseebee]

Sticking with the legendary I5 3570k. This processor would still wreck everything in 3 years paired with a couple of 780TIs or 880s.

[@01AnthraciteXJR]

same i am sticking with my i5 3570k.

[@SirBillyMays]

Man, I am keeping with my 3820 and my 2500k, both of those are still bloody awesome.

[@01AnthraciteXJR]

ya my fist CPU was a 2500k it's a beast .

[@closetcolonelgaming]

I have the i5 3570k and LOVE it!!! Works like a charm! I even got it clocked to 4.4 and it's really stable. :)

[@SirBillyMays]

Anyone here with tips on overclocking a 3820 btw? Had some struggles. (sitting on a Sabertooth X79 and 16gb (4x4gb modules), H60 cooler. Currently running on around 30C under light-medium load, under fake pressure I get around 45C.

[@RyanJay12345]

Should i buy haswell refresh or wait for broadwell? And will it be worth the wait if i do

[@niofalpha]

Depends if you need a new CPU right now.

[@QuannanHade]

I hope to upgrade to z97, and I'm currently running a P45 board with a Kentsfield Q6600... DDR3 and 1150 socket will be a nice upgrade from DDR2 and 775...

[@RongGuy]

So it took Intel 2+ years to put proper thermal compound on their unlocked processors? Bravo.

[@LeftCZ]

Better than never :)

[@RongGuy]

LeftCZ I sure hope they do put good TIM or maybe even solder the IHS on Broadwell unlocked CPUs. Though unfortunately we won't be getting them until Q1 2015.

[@LeftCZ]

***** So what do you think are they gonna do with the Devil's Canyon CPUs? Only spend more time properly applying the TIM or solder it as in case of Sandy?

[@RongGuy]

***** Nope. A lot of people were curious over why Ivy/Haswell run so hot, so they delidded their processors, replaced the default TIM with a high quality thermal compound, and then just placed the IHS back on and let the coolers pressure hold it in place. Most people got around 10 - 15 degrees off. So no, the TIM is utter rubbish.

[@LeftCZ]

ZewRongGuy And what do you think has Intel done/will do with Devil's Canyon? A) Change the process of applying the TIIM, B) replace the current TIM with some new one or C) solder it together (as they have done with Sandy - did they do it before? Do they do it like that with socket 2011 CPUs?). And what about Broadwell? Thx

[@santamonicka5625]

Still running i7 4770k /w asus maximus vi Gene , happy with it :)

[@semhak]

LinusTechTips Excuse me for being a bit off-topic; but I'm currently planning on building a new PC for heavy audio editing, composing and moderate gaming. For now, I'm in dubio between the 1150 socket and the 2011 socket. The 1150 socket is future proof and will support the next gen intel processors, but at the time of writing the 2011 socket houses the most powerful processors Intel is offering, and I'm really opting for the 6-core right now since the applications I use can really make use of that. The downside to 2011 is of course that the motherboards are sometimes already 3 years on the market and its future may not be guaranteed. At the other hand, getting a 2011 socket 6-core cpu now may have me settled for the future to come. So, what is your opinion on this? Should I go for the future proof 1150 with z97 chipset with it's newer features, but be limited to a quad-core now, or should I go for full performance with the 2011 socket but hand in on upgradability?

[@gabygg4]

Running Z77 with no problems. Will not be upgrading.

[@AamerJarg]

Dear Linus, Can we please have more on Z97 motherboards. It would really like to see a review on the MSI gaming Z97 series motherboards. Also, what the update on the devil canyon CPUs? Especially the i7 4790k. Regards, Aamer Jarg

[@humanitysonlyhope]

I'm running a 4770k on a Maximus VI Hero z87 board but I'm waiting for X99 and Haswell-E CPU's and DDR4 ram.

[@ewanohare4658]

Halfway through 2015 and there still isn't any SATA Express drives.

[@Henkenator68NL]

Linus, I liked the way you do a "fly by" and stil covered the essentials of the platform! So kudos there!! Currently I have 2 riggs up and running. Project "Bird of Prey", based on the Z77 platform with Asus Maximus 5 Extreme, an i7 3770K @ 4.6HGz 1.29volts), Dom Plat Ramkit 2666 cl9, 2 x 7970 Ghz. Als in custom built case with full custom watercooling loop. This a lucky cpu, It will run 5400-isch... No subzero needed Love the 3770K, still performance is good. 2th is "project BattleX", Asus ROG MAXIMUS VI EXTREME with i7 4770K, 2xGKill TridentX 2400 C9, @ 2800 C9-12-11-281T, R9-290X. On huge custom water loop 3 x 360mmx120mm (yes have full fan pack; 3x6= 18 Fans). I love 3770K better cause it takes me to place 4770k can't go. But the IMC on Z87 man :-) (if you have at least a good chip), is way better. TridentX even goes up to 3000Mhz, and have broken my personal record hugely.. Currently 3110Mhz. I am bencher, so I like all systems, but, for this gen, I don't see any reason to swap motherboard... Unless the Devil’s Canyon could tempt me.. So, Z77 WITH I7 3770K AND Z87 with 4770K for me: just right, Z97? Show me what you got, for now Nope!

[@littlelegsone]

It depends if they are going to charge much more for what is essentially the same product

[@Tailsrulz123]

Just picked up my SABERTOOTH Z97 Mark 1... Love it.

[@hgpot]

P67! Because my 2500k is still awesome as day one, three years ago. If I upgrade, it will be when DDR4 is fully available. Not that I need it, but I want to keep my build as long as possible so I'll get the new stuff so that it doesn't get antiquated as quickly.

[@Mr666Pac]

I will be upgrading to Z97 from FM1, when the new CPUS are out.

[@taconauts1707]

I'm running with the sabertooth z77 right now and absolutely love the sabertooth line. Definitely will be upgrading to the sabertooth z97

[@WeAreTwoDoorsDown]

I'll upgrade to X99 when it finally comes out... I'm running a 3930k on an X79 chipset and the main things I want are chipset USB3 support, and more SATA 6gb ports.

[@error2k2]

I wouldn't mind some native thunderbolt support. The one thing I kinda lament from the z87 boards.

[@WeAreTwoDoorsDown]

error2k2 Well of course I wouldn't mind having it, but I still really want the USB3 and SATA3.

[@TheRealEZOverdose]

WeAreTwoDoorsDown i have the same cpu and sabertooth board. just wondering what u need more usb3 for. i can understand needing more sata3. considered a pci sata3/usb3 card?

[@WeAreTwoDoorsDown]

EZOVERDOSE I want the USB3 built into the chipset. There's less compatibility errors that way. And I don't have room for a raid card in my system. Plus I prefer the compatibility and stability of chipset SATA.

[@TheRealEZOverdose]

WeAreTwoDoorsDown understandable, but what devices do u use that actually benefits from usb3 is what i was asking

[@ryanmackenzie3580]

So will the new haswell (not the devils canyon) work with the z97 board?

[@alfredwaldmacher2017]

Hey NCIX, should I upgrade my Msi Z87-G45 with the Sabertooth Mark 1

[@jonas1015119]

I have my Z87 motherboard since a week, after 3 years with P55 and socket 1156, I will pass Devils Canyon and Broadwell, seeing what will come with Z109 or however they will call it.

[@valkyrie743]

will broadwell work on the Z87 or will it need the Z97? also im still rocking sandy bridge. Im not a fan of no solder under the IHS for Ivy bridge and haswell. Im rocking 4.5ghz overclock on my 2600K and intelburntest i n ever go past 68C on AIR!!!!! Yeah that would not happen with Ivy bridge or haswell

[@watsyurdeal]

Alright, so here's my question, I'm getting an upgrade for my current rig, I only use 1 Graphics Card and plan to get a i5 4690K, would an Asus Z 97-A be good enough for my needs? I don't care about SATA or any of that stuff, I just plan to game is all.

[@pangeltveit]

Running Asus P67 Deluxe with an i7 3770k at 4.6ghz. Will probably not upgrade before ddr4 is out.

[@stephenshaw7108]

so then the question now is the haswell refresh worth it?

[@CenCali21]

Im absolutely torn right now. I am...WAS planning on building my first gaming PC rig(I dont have anything as of right now, just a NZXT phantom 410 case), I was originally going to go with the Asus z87 Maximus formula Vl MB, with an Intel i7 4770k cpu. But now I dont know if I should wait or not, since the z97 is continuing with the 1150 socket, I can still get the 4770k, but the haswell refresh will be coming out and (im more interested in that due to the themal improvements), but i dont want to buy the equipment right now knowing that it'll all be cheaper within the next couple of months. Any suggestions on what I should do? Any response is much appreciated!

[@Fender178]

I am most definitely upgrading to z97 with a 4790k from a old Q2Q Q6600. I am getting the gryphon board because I want my next computer to last me at least 5 years or so.

[@Nikiaf]

I'm currently running a Z77 but with a Sandy Bridge CPU. I think Z97 and a new CPU will be my upgrade path this year.

[@thepain2222]

It's interesting that the Maximus 7 Hero is no longer going to the "entry-level" ROG board (the band new Ranger is taking that spot as "entry-level") and it has exactly 0 SATA Express ports. It looks absolutely stunning too.

[@Leester-70]

Broadwell or wait for Skylake? I'm still on an overclocked 2600k.

[@LittleFierceRat]

if u upgrade ~ can i buy your 2600K?

[@Leester-70]

LOL, that's just it. I've had this baby running at a stable 4.8 overclock for years now, it's like a magic processor. When you factor that overclock in there still isn't enough of a performance increase in the newer processors to justify upgrading.

[@MrXYDER]

hi Linus, not sure if it's just me but i noticed in the last 2 NCIX videos there was a murmuring noise every time you spoke... not sure if it's my side or yours but just wanted to let you know.

[@cjbtantay]

de_dust the map. Yes linus. Thank you for that cs reference.

[@joshtunney6674]

i laughed, what can i say? dude knows his audience.

[@jannettet]

Upgraded from z68 to the z97 matx version of the motherboard. I'm happy.

[@MrShadowhearth]

Still running Z68 + 2500k for gaming. I really dont see a point upgrading this Combo for a very long time. It just does not make sense upgrading such platform in cost efficiency, it does make sense if you want to increase your ePenis.

[@hakansener2556]

Actually I bought my sabertooth z87 this week and installed it into my case yesterday. So I'm not going to replace it for a while.

[@GodOfGamingBG]

I'm sticking with Gigabyte Z77X-UP7 and i7-3770K. I'm getting 5 GHz on air, so Broadwell will have to impress me a lot to make me upgrade.

[@EvilCronos13]

I'm still running on the Z77 chipset with my 3770K. Still don't have a good reason to buy a whole new CPU and motherboard, although a new standard for faster drives is very compelling.

[@speeeeros7095]

Just upgraded to 1155 platform(i know i'm a little late) and i'm very happy because it has everything i need. The reason why i didnt go for haswell is because of the low price of high-end 1155 mobos nowdays, Saved some bucks ;)

[@aymaanannnur6194]

I think it would be more sensible to wait just a bit more fot DDR4, that would make sense about having a Z97 as it's gunna stick around for a long time. And ofcourse SATA Express........

[@abheet]

I'm going to make a new build in a month...confused if I shoud buy z87 or the new z97?

[@MrHSX]

My question is will the new CPU's work on the Z87 mobo? Since the socket type is LGA 1150 And the downside theoretically should only be the lack of the new features please correct me if I am missing something

[@S1AYA7]

I think the Gryphon is a compelling option because I was going to replace my HP system with a 4770K and maximus vi gene later this year but the gryphon looks like a great alternative to keep everything future proof

[@nexorabolis]

Running the M6 Formula from Asus, I'll happily upgrade it to the z97 formula when it comes out.

[@DiogoVazTavares]

And if someone is starting to plan a new build, what should he consider Z87 or Z97?

[@pewpewx1]

Not feeling motivated enough to buy the new boards/CPUs, my Z87/4770k works just fine, maybe I'll consider an upgrade in 2-3 years...

[@DroidAppleTech]

Still running my Z77 machine with an i5 3570K and a GTX 670. Does everything I need of it. Although Z97 is on my radar for a potential secondary mobile editing rig to replace my ancient MacBook pro 13"

[@borisboris6976]

can these motherboard support i5 7600k processor??

[@sigel81]

of course you don't upgrade if you're z87. by the time broadwell comes out, you know there's going to be newer better boards coming out. which means z97 price will drop, equals more choice.

I've just built a Z87 PC with i5-4670k and I'm sticking with it for now.

[@X72Shadow]

I'm currently in the middle of my first build that is for gaming and music production, I'm getting the Sabertooth z87 with an Intel i5 Haswell quad core 3.2 GH and a gtx 970 4 GB. Would this be a good build, or would I be bottlenecking somewhere?

[@jakeulous]

So for short will these new series of chipsets will be worth a bit of performance enhancements / waiting or just stick with the z8x series chipset based motherboards??(note: I'm still new to these pc parts thing and don't have any sort of well education towards it. and I might get a new pc set soon..)

[@stang10189]

I am getting ready and ordering parts for my new build. I was going to buy a I7-4770k but should I get the new refresh chips that just came out? I bought a gtx-780 for gpu so im building around that.

[@MesaMitch3]

just did a build for christmas don't think i am upgrading any time soon Sabertooth z87 - i7 4770k - Nvidia 780 Ti - corsair Dominator platinum 2400 16 gig ram - corsair c 70 case - Corsair ax860 PSU - 2 samsung 128 840 pros in raid 0 - WD 1 tb black HDD - Sound Blaster ZX - Asus PCE AC68 - razer black widow ultimate 2013 - and logitech g502 mouse i think that's everything? lol only thing i want to upgrade is getting a 2nd 780 ti and dying for the Corsair RGB keyboard

[@SirBillyMays]

Hmm, I have an X79 Sabertooth still, so I do not feel like "upgrading", I will most likely change when the successor to LGA 2011 when it comes out, and get the second generation of processors for that platform. Basically meaning: I have no hurries.

[@elivelez7891]

What do you think about the Maximus viii hero alpha? Do you think is worth the spend? I am really interested in plugging multiple Gtx 980 and am interested in having Wifi and Bluetooth aswell. Obviously is has a descent audio output, but seems to me there might be something out there that could be just as good. Thanks

[@martinl.8342]

Wired is much better, but if you can't then a WiFi card is probably better, but I'm not sure.

[@Headshot-vb7ez]

just heads up, your mobile app links in the description are flipped, the android link takes you to apple app store, and the ios link takes you to the Google play store.

[@rja12]

You didn't mention that neither of these 2 boards have M.2

[@felissilvestris]

Do I have to get a H97 or Z97 motherboard if I buy Core i7-4790 or a H87 motherboard will do?

[@GadgetChameleon]

Can you do a video about the benefits of dual LAN ports and whether it's worth it?

[@metalbluster315]

the clashing question Asus Z97 mobo's or msi Z97 mobo's, which ones are superior???

[@Jsak666]

no i am not going to upgrade because i have a z87 sabertooth with a custom watercooling loop made out of copper pipe, wayyyy too much hassel to upgrade to the z97 plus the 5 year warrenty means i should have to upgrade in a rush

[@MaxPusch]

I´m running my 2500K on a Z77 platform. I bought it roughly 3 years ago and it still runs as hell. As long as i don´t melt it down with my 4.7Ghz OC i will stick with it^^

[@thedigitalrealm7155]

I'm still running a golden i7 3770K and a Z77 Sabertooth. Not Interested in a CPU upgrade for another few years.

[@Skott62]

Current rig is a 2500k cpu on a matx form factor. New rig needed so I'm going with a new z97 atx mobo. I have a extra 4770k laying about but I'm waiting to see what the Haswell refresh is going to offer. Supposedly the 4790k will be slightly faster, run slightly cooler, slightly less power, and overclocks slightly more. Basically the performances overall is slightly better. Supposedly. I'm curious if all it is just refresh or are they throwing in a new chip or two? Waiting to see.

[@sjbezanson]

I wonder if this release of Sabertooth boards will come with the 4 Way Optimization software or if it's going to stay specifically on the PRO and Deluxe series still?

[@Vertigotrueshot]

Should I upgrad from my z77 or is it not that big a deal.

[@BfoSHIZnats]

I'm still using a 1st gen i7 960. When should I upgrade my CPU and Mobo?

[@FrostPlutarc]

I'm keeping my 3 year old GA-Z68X-UD4-B3, 16GB 1600MHz, 2500K, SSD 480GB and EVGA 560TI. The video card is feeling a bit dated, I may update my Card when Nvidia comes out with the 20nm Maxwell.

[@gxthelord]

3570k at 4.5Ghz, Z77 itx board. Not gonna upgrade till a year or two still does it works well for me

[@magzire]

I have a sabertooth cause I'm special...

[@BeastChan23]

I'm still running my Z77 with a 2500K, and don't see an upgrade needed in the near future. Although, I would like to upgrade my Radeon 6850 some time soon

[@Nicktrance1]

Currently still on H61 :(. So yes I'll be upgrading to Z97/devil's canyon, this summer hopefully.

[@Iceever]

Not planing to upgrade - simply my AM3+ Sabertooth with fx-8350 works just fine, so why change it if it works

[@itsdeonlol]

Thanks Linus, I can upgrade from Z87 to Z97! I can live happy now in my little happy place! :)

[@Skandha_]

I'm on Z77 3770K, no real reason for me to upgrade just yet, maybe when Sata Express drives are common and you can get motherboards covered in them, because I tend to keep a lot of drives in my machine

[@KinglyMuch]

Can you remove the ugly camo? Are they just stickers stickers? I really like the clean look and I'm going for a black/blue/grey scheme. I think the camo would ruin it completely.

[@PimpMatt0]

I'm on am3+. Plan on upgrading it in like two years considering it will be a four year old cpu by then. Might go with intel if amd has nothing good to offer. Broadwell and Skylake sound promissing.

[@AdityaCasio]

Still rocking in a core i7 920 here on an asus p6x58d-e. All the components are over 4 years old now, and my i7 still overclocks to 4ghz, in fact, thats what i run it at everyday. I dont see the need to upgrade to any newer platform as my current one is perfectly fine :) ( untill something dies of course :L )

[@joefairweather8404]

I have z87 and just got it. so tit's good to see something somthing new on the market and, can we upgrade are z87 CPU to a 4th Gen refresh or 5 th Gen CPU or would you know that right now?

[@DemonsWrath616]

Running a 3770k on Z77. Won't upgrade. Reason being there is no tangible benefit to upgrading. The only reason to upgrade would be to Z87 for full Sata 3.0 ports rather than a mix of 2 and 3, and since I haven't maxed out my ports yet, no need at all to upgrade.

[@Slayer9107]

so one of the main difference is Sata Express, and 2 of 3 boards do not support it? someone is trying to drain money from not-so-much upgrade for BFU... I'm still using Sandy bridge 2500, and not going to upgrade until broadwell comes out, or maybe even something next...

[@Surealoclock]

Keeping my x79, 4930k ftw. Looking forward to x99 info

[@jiiub]

i just built a new computer yesterday on a Z87, felt no reason to wait or get the new boards

[@AlicanGoodmane]

i7 3770k with sabertooth, not planing on upgrade. Don't want to risk my 4.6Ghz OC with luck of the draw. although more sata 3 ports would be lovely. I'm in between.

[@Freakreader]

i got lucky with my sandy brigde and i could oc it to 5 gigz (75 celcius) without any problem. now my motherboard broke and i'm using my laptop to play games... i'm looking for value oriented Z77 board, it's compatible with sandy brigde right?

[@daveclapson6]

ive got a 4670k @ 4.5ghz, msi gd45, corsair 540 case, h90 cooler, 16gb 2133 team group vulcan ram, msi 4gb 760 x2 sli. i may swap out for an i7 but other than that ill wait for skylake is it? and ddr4.

[@stormgamer2555]

This is my first build, and im considering the gryphon z97. Is the tuf armor an impotant investment, or can i just save my money for say, a good GPU?

[@chimpleton4071]

StormGamer25 Generally nothing that has a mostly aesthetic appeal is really necessary. Usually if you are gaming on a budget you want the best gpu you can afford and other reliable, but not necessarily expensive, components to support it that won't bottleneck it.

[@stormgamer2555]

Celerant The thing is, i wont be playing very demanding games. Ill be mostly making videos with programs like Sony Vegas. Do i even need a good GPU for that, or will on board graphics be fine? I would imagine that the extra cooling would be useful for cooling the active CPU.

[@stormgamer2555]

Celerant Thanks for all the input! Since ill be getting a GPU anyway, i dont need Onboard graphics of the i5-4460, so instead im thinking about the AMD fx-8350, with the gigabyte ga-970A-DS3P. Do you mind judging this build? : pcpartpicker.com/p/cPGNVn

[@stormgamer2555]

Celerant Thank you for everything. I just joined LinusTechTips.com and someone else there also suggested the gtx 960. Im really considering getting it now.

[@deathrow989]

Still running 1366, its getting quite old but its done me very well over these years, I've decided to wait for the new Broadwell socket 2011 boards with DDR4 later this year

[@fezme7728]

Im running Z87, and since I do not see many diferences, ill stick with that for a wile. I am interested on the new Intel CPUs.