What is X4: Foundations? TRADE (Part 1 of 6)

[@AttroxDexxar]

I don't understand why you don't put tooltips on all of these options. Or encyclopedia entries. Or a way to see sensor range on your probes. Or a way to set manual orders to repeat. Some sort of way to easily access this information instead of making your players wait for a year so you can make a series of video tutorials. Why would anyone buy the trading system extension without knowing what it does? There is no description in the menu telling you what it does. I've been playing the entire X series for years and X4 is honestly the most obtuse one yet. Sure, the game has a lot of gameplay options, and a lot of things to do in general, but it seems like you intend to make the player fight tooth and nail to find out what everything does. And they have to fight with all of this for at least a week before they finally start having fun with the game. Anyway, great video. Newer players should find the trading portion of the game more approachable, now. I can't wait to see your next videos.

[@sieda666]

Even when I didn't know what it was for, I'd grab the trading extension because it's cheap and I figured it helped with trading somehow. Did I mention how ridiculously cheap it is? It's more of a "why not" accessory.

[@ethanforster]

You can pretty much do everything you said in the game

[@jandyb6369]

Love this. We need more content from you guys like this. It's great to see the actual developers playing the game themselves and hearing your tips on things. Keep it going

[@TikoPiko]

Oh wow, Bernd the beast is becoming a KZbinr! Gentlemen, we bear witness to evolution!

[@mikeleshkov4805]

Great video, thank you. Questions to this part. - Can I somehow hide trade offers from my stations on the map. - Can I somehow disable grouping offers on any level of zoom. Sometimes you need to solve: near and little cheaper or much farther and little more valuable. If you zooming out, you see only the second one, but the near offer is more attractive. I'm waiting for Build and Fight parts. In particular: 1) Rotating parts of station. 2) How add / delete trade offer in your HQ 3) Can I somehow expand station construction area more than 20x20x20 4) About fighting ship groups 5) About developing you staff, pilots

[@JM_Traslo]

Can I ask, honestly, why can't we do a basic hauling loop order? It's a core principle of games like the X series and all previous games had it, but in X4 we can't just tell a ship "haul goods from Station A to Station B and repeat infinitely", we can do it once or we have to setup an insane blacklist order or hope and pray the 'smart AI' does it. Why is this still missing?

[@lannesromain1453]

very for player logistic, it will be really convenient.

[@StoneLegion]

Thanks this is great. Since NPC trading is a thing of the past since my Crew can hardly get past 2 Stars!

[@broyal_gamers1237]

Get the Learning all the things mod! It accelerates the exp gain a bit, and you can customize it to be balanced.

[@CaptainCollins]

I made a video exactly on how to do it with 2-star captains 👍 go check it out, you will understand it very quick and it's easy :) it's about "Distribute Wares"

[@StoneLegion]

@@CaptainCollins LOL your video is wrong... It buys and Sells ugh and it still sucks... Nice advertising lol

[@CaptainCollins]

I've tested it and it does not. Not even when the trader is standing in front of the station with a good price. The trader will stand there idle. You can watch my VOD's to see that happening and even other (rather popular) KZbin videos.

[@CaptainCollins]

"The Rugged Gamer" did a video on that too, and he struggled with the same problem. It's not wrong, it is the way it works.

[@davehedgehog1047]

Loving 3.10 :) Could you dedicate part of the series, or even a single video, to help with training pilots? It seems to take days of game play to even earn a sliver of a skill star, and the seminar missions for > 2 stars are pretty few and far between

[@StoneLegion]

Also show this for 30 or so traders, 30 or so miners, 30 or so battleships, 200-300 fighters, etc!

[@Goattygoat]

It's just time based. If you want to speed it up you can get mods.

[@OrinThomas]

Would really love to put salvage equipment on ships and recover some of the metals from those wrecks ;-) (especially some of the ones around Argon Prime) - get some shipbreaking going ;-)

[@mrpolomar7251]

That's a cool idea - the more gameplay options the better!

[@Sayox]

I was on the fence to get this game but I swear to God as soon as I realized this was an Egosoft video and this guy is a dev, I was immediately sold on getting in AGAIN!!

[@raphaelmorin6027]

This video is very welcome as I just discovered X4 a week ago ! 🛰🛸

[@reimuhakurei2208]

Have fun with the game!

[@glanzvollegurke2793]

Ich bin immernoch davon beeindruckt was eigentlich mittlerweile aus x4 geworden ist...habe schon 1800 Stunden in das Spiel gesteckt und haben immernoch so viel zu tun. Da habt ihr wirklich verdammt gute Arbeit geleistet ^^

[@ntylersimmons]

A great video! I'm a veteran player of x4 and still learning new things! Cant wait to see the rest of the videos. Danke schön!

[@grimelex]

Thank you for this series :) I'm sure it is going to be very enlightening

[@pringles_mcgee]

im glad you guys are still making this series :')

[@isitanos]

When trading individually, I prefer it when a game gives you hints on where to find the good deals rather than just tell you outright (or after some boring mechanic such as placing a satellite). I liked reading the X2 BBS to find rumors of shortages or emergencies in some system and rushing there to try and take advantage of the situation. No idea if those entries corresponded to actual in-game changes, but it made the experience more than going from point A to point B using perfect information. X4 is so soulless in comparison.

[@Ashmodai]

I would honestly hate that. The buy/sell screens in previous games were a godsend when they were finally introduced. X4's version is awesome. Takes away the individual trade experience, yes, but you would do that for an hour maximum anyways before you send other ships to do it for you...

[@mrpolomar7251]

Thanks for this - looking forward to more! And many many thanks for creating games that have given me many many hours of enjoyment.. love X2, X3, XR, and now X4. I hope you folks keep on polishing and adding to this game - there's so much potential for creating even more gameplay options, and for infilling extra bits of content to discover, as time goes on. All the best.

[@nihilis3288]

You mad geniuses I found your reference to Team Four Star 😂. Love your game btw.

[@humbleweirdo2860]

It's in the paces of being the best X game I've played, love your work Bernd and keep up the good work!

[@aditrasca]

This game is a whole universe ! Love you for these videos !

[@sieda666]

Thanks for uploading, glad to see a series is planned. I've been playing awhile and I still learned something about the trade subscriptions being obtainable via hacking.

[@SamuraiProgrammer]

Thanks for this! Eagerly awaiting the future entries!

[@the6atekeeper597]

Very Informative, thank you. Looking forward to the next video, though I'm really looking forward to Build and Strategy.

[@BrianRonald]

When trading individually, station trade offers are a cruel joke against the player.

[@StoneLegion]

I wish there was a system in place sort like Crystals how gives a player a chance to do some worth while mining though a bit annoying it be interesting something like this existed for trading. Trading for example Workforce, etc. Having special module you can swap out and change the storage type.

[@Petr.mp4]

5:40.. wow i never notice that.. amazing work

[@DarthFiscus]

Great series! Thanks guys.

[@olivialambert4124]

No kidding, this seems great. I hope these all get working as intended, on paper it seems like the perfect update to X3 (absolutely love the look of the shipbuilder) but reviews seem to be saying otherwise. I'm assuming it may have been released a little early before things were working. I'm hoping thats the case at least, I really want to play X4 as described in this video as long as I'm not forced to play early access. I'm keeping my eye on it at least, I've already reinstalled X3 but I'm reluctant to sink hours in until I know which will be taking my time.

[@isosnitsky]

You still can't tell your ships to just haul ONE ware from ONE station to ANOTHER.

[@polnatista2410]

Awesome video series, loving the open nature of this game !

[@markhackett2302]

The UI "works" for issuing remote trading but you can't use it without extreme frustration for yourself because you can't select your piloted ship when you right click on the wares. Where it doesn't work is that the boxes obscure and halt the selection of a station unless you close the trade view and zoomed out you cannot see which specific station the ware is indicating, especially since it could be hidden by other menu items. 1. Allow your piloted ship to be selected and it puts the order in as a series of waypoints, same as if you had a mission handed to you 2. Allow pressing T to target the specific station that the highlighted ware to allow that specific station to be highlighted. If that interferes with remote trading, then highlight it some other way. 3. Allow some other key to center around the highlighted ware's station. Other options are more views 1. Demand. List up all wares and stations with high demand. This allows you to see where supply is insufficient, both to fill yourself and to keep the AI economy going 2. Supply. List up all wares with low supply. This allows you to see where there is need for a station to supply, this allows you to see what stations you can profitably build.

[@Voidfarer84]

This is a great video! Gonna fire it up again

[@hadaev]

Devs, if you read this, I want more fight missions. What about factions offer to kill other factions stations. Or like go to xenon sector and kill 50 ships.

[@GreenNightcore]

You should post about that in the official egosoft forum instead of youtube comments ;) You'll see that you're not alone with your wish

[@alithahnar7957]

Those mission exist join a War effort and browse the mission you get offered.

[@TheT0nedude]

I bought the Collector's edition of X4 when it came out and dabbled briefly but because I have bought and played all of Egosoft's games in the past I knew I was probably going to shelve it until a certain patch number had come out. Their games are like a fine wine and ripen and become better with age and support and since the Split expansion and beta version 3.20 I think that time is quickly coming to fruition.....

[@BrokenKanuck]

So needed this, thank you!!

[@maxenriquegonzales5793]

Dankeschön, gut erklärt!

[@PterippiGaming]

This should be a mandatory in-game tutorial. I ended up hiding those station ware hint s because they were obstructive and never figured out about best buy/best sell functionality that is present there.

[@Sharlenwar]

Thanks for this, very helpful and makes me realize why I purchased this game.

[@vengeance5537]

Make build storages destructible, or just make them blow up along with their stations, please. Its infuriating that the fleets are stuck for hours firing at the stations which are at 0% hp, and this problem has not been addressed for years now!

[@danybackstone]

I have to admit your green screen and the matte painting work is better than any other youtuber out there 👏👏👏 A team that focuses on game details is better than an eye candy video for shallow game. Congrats

[@IceCeamBoys]

Hope in the next step we will have XL class trade ships and playable XL class battleships~~

[@michaelbennett7561]

Okay, he said dropping resource probes would help NPC miners. How??? It seems to me they never need any resource probes to find the minerals and gas they are after, they just go to it.

[@allanlarsen3261]

The probes show what is in an astroid field, but also the density of the stuff present. A high density field will allow you miner to spend less time traveling in the field to find what it is mining, and therefore be more efficient.

[@johnalexander2039]

Wow! That video was great! Thank you for taking the time to put all that together; great production quality too. This will be very useful to newer players.

[@XxKidnoffxX]

I hope you gonna put a link of this playlist tutoral video on the in-game menu.

[@jcataclisma]

Thank you!

[@8linck8]

If only the game actually ran this smoothly...

[@CaptainCollins]

Lynkz on 3.1 in fullscreen mode with the right anti-alising filter it runs that smooth 👍

[@Xeroeth]

@@CaptainCollins Yep, on my old savegame the game is not so smooth. That's because the savegame is bloated with unintentional information, which was patched up some time ago. With a new game started at 3.10, my FPS shooted up to 150+ and now limiting is actually functional, game is 100% fluid in every situation (almost, stations still can feel a bit choppy sometimes).

[@TehGM]

New 3.1 savegame does run choppy on my GTX 1080 + i7 8700K. It's on 1440p, but there's little to no difference between higher and lower graphics settings, cause the framerate drops are clearly CPU-bound. And i7 8700K is one of the better CPUs available, so it's alarming.

[@CaptainCollins]

TehGM try to change the anti-alising settings. Some are causing troubles. My game runs on 1080 and AMD 1700x extremely fine. With the heavy load of streaming 👍

[@Paradoxian-Windows-11-10]

great job

[@david8157]

Game looks awesome

[@Maddock_]

I really want to like x4 but it just feels like a more frustrating X3 with questionably useful features grafted on top of it... I just feel like I'm playing a downgraded version, as if the game was actively fighting me and my playstyle no matter what I did. It's actually even less varied than the older games, ships and weapons wise. Maybe it's just not for me And oh god, a 40 minute wait to build a ship is bad enough, but the shipyards can't even build them because they don't have the parts and NPCs get lost on the way to restock them, why Anyway, rant over, I'm sorry. I'm sure you did a huge amount of work on this, I'm just not sure it was in the right places. But it's cool that you're still improving on it (just gotta make the autopilot work!)

[@GreenNightcore]

I mean, yes, that happens when you have an actual economy that doesn't cheat (like it did in X3, X2 and the X games before)

[@Maddock_]

@@GreenNightcore isn't the economy still cheating a bit though? Also, I think the fun factor should win in this case But like I said, maybe it's just not for me

[@GreenNightcore]

@@Maddock_ well, it's probably still cheating a bit, but I don't know much about that. The funny thing is, that you could start a new savegame right now and possibly end up with a universe where you don't need to use any traders at all, because it's able to support itself. It's a bit too random for my taste, especially because it could show as late as multiple hours into the game.

[@JAnx01]

X2 and X3 sectors are too small and characterless. They feel like iterations of one sector with space stations randomized at different locations. There is no drive to explore the universe.

[@Maddock_]

@@JAnx01 I think only X rebirth got that part right, or at least better

[@TheXell]

Please consider adding manual subtitles to the video. Thank you.

[@jede2609]

Sehr schönes Tutorial. Das hätte mir am ANFANG den Einstieg ins Spiel sehr erleichtert. Tolles Video, nur verstanden habe ich wenig, gibt es das Video auch in deutsch?

[@aeontiv]

Might i suggest allowing traders and miners to gain skill from non combat actions? In reality, you don't send a trucker (trade ship equivalent) to ride in a troop transport across seas to fight in wars. Yes he will gain some skills, but it won't help his driving skills any ;)

[@notlikethis5782]

A welcome video!

[@SevScout]

Very zen video. Love it.

[@egosoft]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@BlackWipeout]

I'm new in this game, my question is how you reveal the ??? on a base station that transforms resources ?

[@PT-rg2vo]

Thank you :)

[@duabau]

Do us a favor and do a video of leveling a level 2 pilot to a level 3 pilot. No video editing so we can see how long it takes. I have been working on it for a couple days and still haven't had 1 pilot level up yet.

[@psvialli]

Great loving this !

[@Jbay2608]

I've been enjoying this game a lot since I got it last weekend. The only thing that I've been annoyed by so far is that you need 3 star pilots for sector auto mining. This just seems like a pointless barrier to auto trading. I can have a rookie pilot take control of a Magnetar and let them fly around mining gas and ore, with dozens of crew under their command but they need to be 3 stars to courier goods?

[@nikosuniverse3980]

When ou are a bit Lucky, you can get a 3 Star Pilot by ordering a Ship. Just save before you buy one and try, maybe reload. This can also become a bit annoying. An other option is to try to get some Seminars. Sometimes you can buy them at a Station Trader, you can loot them from enemy ships, or out of lock boxes that can be found erverywhere. This way it should be possible to get a few 3 star trader and miner in an acceptable time. All other ways of leveling realy takes too long

[@MenWithVen]

It would be cool to see rare but useful uses for NIvidium. Exclusive upgrades/builds etc

[@aartdegraaf6754]

If you want Trading other than personally trading, you can play Foundation. If you want Personal Trading, you play X2 or X3.

[@hokiturmix]

Love :D

[@TheRealNoodle]

Nice Thumbnail 😉

[@at1537]

Looking to get into my first game in this genre. Thank for having a native linux port. Can't make up my mind whether to buy on steam or GOG?

[@at1537]

After scrounging around trying to find out if my PC setup will be able to handle it - bought the Collectors Editions on GOG. Hope the game optimisation, especially late game is not ignored. Merry Christmas to all at Egosoft.

[@teddypicker8799]

Need more in game information. The encyclopedia is like 1% complete or something, its worthless atm

[@galaxygamer__5100]

Very good Tutorial. I hope it will translate in german maybe.

[@allones3078]

Really wish you guys would make just one screen with ware, cost (high low) and where.

[@irakliin]

in nowadays the type of this game must include as minimum cooperative possibility to play with other in this huge universe with so beg possibilities implemented in gameplay, in my opinion

[@tiradox6348]

EA is that you :)

[@Symbine]

I really dislike that the turrets have twin barrels but only fire one beam each as at 10:59

[@Petr.mp4]

Yep

[@planelander]

it called copy paste development.

[@hakenaton9031]

You used to be able to restrict to sell/buy only to your Stations, where did that go??

[@JanB1605]

At 4:44 and multiple other times in this video you are in some kind of zoomed view. How did you do that? Last time I checked the "Video enhancement goggles" weren't a thing anymore.

[@thezanzibarbarian5729]

I've, sadly, not played X4 since the Split Vendetta DLC came out. So I have to ask, what was that place you first docked at? Full view of this was @0:07 into the video. It looked more like a huge carrier than a station.

[@vengeance5537]

It is a Raptor Class Split Carrier...

[@thezanzibarbarian5729]

@@vengeance5537 - So that's a flyable ship then? If "Yes", that's awesome :-))... I'll have to look into getting X4 dusted and fly off into space again. Thanks for that :-))...

[@ihub6074]

For $15, you'll become a dlc with a "storyline" (conquere 3 sectors, thats it, no storytelling, nothing) And the Raptor is only a stupid bug they have added, ships habe big problems to dock when Carrier is in movement

[@vengeance5537]

@@ihub6074 Yep, and Monitor is even worse. When I order my fighters to dock, I do it OOS.

[@thezanzibarbarian5729]

@@vengeance5537 - AI fighter pilots leave a lot to the imagination. I'd ordered a large transport and got 5 small fighters for protection. Once ordered to land, 4 fighters landed with no problem. The 5th decided he'd go back to the shipyard. So I managed to get him back out and finally, after some coaxing, he landed on the transport. I went to the bridge to fly the transport back and I heard a fighter take off. He'd only gone back to the shipyard again :-((...

[@dbateman]

Unless I missed it, you never show how to click the filtering button and turn the station buy/sell price display on. It isn't on by default.

[@Dmitry___S.]

*Why not:* Build Fight Trade Think?

[@JkaaraKoDi]

As your average game start is with 10k creds - it is hard to build something with it.

[@ИгорьВоробьев-ш7ь]

Благодарю вас за предоставленную информацию, очень познавательно, но больше всего меня интересует вопрос, будет ли реализована самообучение пилота и экипажа в процессе полётов и торговли как в (x3 terran conflict)? (Thank you for the information provided, very informative, but most of all I am interested in the question, will self-training of the pilot and crew be implemented in the process of flying and trading as in (x3 terran conflict)?)

[@paltremal]

the micro management and ridiculous amount of time in menu screens if very obnoxious. I also have noticed that someone will be looking to buy something on my map and then I get there and they are no longer buying, meaning that I just spent all my storage space filling up on something I am flying station to station trying to dump

[@Malte133]

Btw just found a smal visual bug .. if you q and advanced satelite and put picking up small ones after their radius becomes the radius of advanced satelites

[@spinFK]

What graphics settings are shown in this video?

[@SebastianZub]

If you don't have time to read all the crap I wrote down, here is a summary: Give us more INFO in the game, and fix the stupid AI especially when managing huge fleets. Well, it's good that you at least making some official videos of how things work. It's better then nothing right? But, wouldn't be better to use this time to implement some system in the game where it will tell us why something isn't working? Why do we have to search outside the game for a solution or an explanation when we should find that in the game, how normally it should be? At least some of us, starters (I'm at around 200 hours in), have to search over and over on youtube and google about some hidden info of how things should be done in the correct way and many videos are like from 2018 or 2019. Why the hell you aren't doing that in-game and you still dragging over and over this problem to an expansion to other. That will be the most and biggest problem of right now. You see, we the community that support this company and we buy your products thinking of "maybe this time is better" we will be fed up by all this endless time we have to search of how the game works outside of it, or your lack of supporting what us, the stupids that spend money for your well-being ask for. So get your stuff together, gather all your devs and make a real awesome change that the game painfully needs it, we don't cry for some crazy ships, races or whatever. No, we just ask for INFORMATION feed in THE GAME. Make the game tell us clearly why some warf will all the materials and no ship in queue isn't building my ship. Make the game tell me why my auto trader isn't starting a route after I did what I could do in-game to start that. This sh*tty problem is the one that isn't getting you more money, just in my humble opinion, but wtf do I know, right? What I know that I, one of those that bought all your titles and DLC's and what not, I want this in the game, more INFO of how things work. If you had some time to read until now, it's good. The next big and also huge problem, is the AI. Oh man, what a great game but such an awful AI. I'm really wondering what you will say and show when the FLEET part will be out. My bet is as this stage of the game you will make a fool of yourself, sorry to say that. AI isn't even docking on carriers man. And even when they do, they are randomly taking off and wondering around. And yes, I did all that I could from what the game is allowing me to do, but isn't saying WHY isn't working. I have 15 carriers and around 350 S ships and I got to a point where I don't even bother setting them to any of the carriers, and I just keep them into their own fleet. If I put them on DEFENSE on some carrier, some will dock, some will wonder around, and no, I am not trying to put more then the carrier could hold. But the cherry on the top, if I pick the carrier and give him an attack order from the other side of the system, all this S ships will rumble towards the target without waiting for the carrier. Why the hell they do that? They are on DEFENSE dude. DEFENSE. Ok, maybe I am doing something wrong, but WHAT? the game isn't saying what the holly F I'm doing wrong and how I should do it. At some point in the game, you will not have the time to micro manage this situations. Or to take care of your traders or miners. We (at least I am) need simple or complex orders that WORKS. How can anybody manage a fleet of destroyers when they want to attack a enemy station when the S ships that are set to DEFENSE this destroyers are attacking the station also, and they die horribly. And some dude on some other video was bashing this and I was actually defending this AI before got in trouble managing it with a big fleet, but I've seen the huge problem this is, stupid me.... So, crying is over I guess, this is a great game and I had a blast playing it until AI and lack of INFO hit me. Why not making it better? DLC's are good, but isn't fixing what is missing or broken much important? Can't wait to see what you will do and say at FLEET video man, bring it on :)

[@gbreuil1]

You should do a perfect square with text []_[] , and alternatively make some sections like managing your infos ? And check the mods it should help a little (but not sure 350 ships will work at a point anyway x) )

[@din-bmt5577]

Ich würde mir wünschen, dass es auch eine deutschsprachige Version gibt. Nicht jeder ist der englischen Sprache mächtig. Die automatisch übersetzten Untertitel zu lesen ist problematisch, weil man dann schlecht dem Geschehen auf dem Bildschirm folgen kann. Mal abgesehen davon, dass die automatische Übersetzung ein Graus ist.

[@reddragon38924]

Verstehe zwar alles, wäre aber trotzdem sicherlich nen netter Move seitens Egosoft für die "ursprünglichen Fans", die (soweit ich das weiß) nunmal aus Deutschland kommen. Müsste (finde ich) nichtmal nen neues video sein, sondern einfach nochmal auf Deutsch einsprechen und die englische Tonspur rausnehmen, mit nem kurzen Hinweis am Anfang, dass "extra nochmal" auf deutsch nachsynchronisiert wurde.

[@talanastr]

Wait! We can assign a black marketeer to our stations?!? Can anybody tell me how?

[@Xeroeth]

That! I didn't know and I have almost 400h under my belt ...

[@Diarmuhnd]

*I'm surprised Darth Sidisneyious did not send Darth vEAder to punish you for that scrolling wall of text.* :) Seriously though, does trade really work this way now? Has it been fixed in this latest update? I should go read the forums i guess.

[@TurKlack]

Egosoft. I'm really at my wits end. I mean I got myself a Semninar Mod becuase of it, but how am I supposed to succesfully train my Pilots? Do I have to manually tell them to fly from one side of the Galaxy to the other 100 times? Go to patrol? Or what? I mean I think, sinc eit's the pilot level that needs increasing (and morale) just flying around should do the trick, but Driller for example get almost nothing.

[@efxnews4776]

"Nividium is rare" Me: mining nividium endlesly right outside my HQ...

[@richiem9316]

Now you will have to go back and change all of the hardcoded titles to X6

[@grybranix]

if you haul goods manually the NPC traders will snipe your deals. The NPCs affect the pricing of goods as soon as they place an order, which they can do *in flight*. They don't have to fly to the station and sell the goods to affect the price. They reserve the sale on both the buying and selling end as soon as they decide to perform the trade. So do the player's NPC pilots. As soon as you tell the ship in the map to buy goods at station A and sell goods at station B, the sale is reserved and guaranteed. This means it's always better for the player to order his NPC ship to make a sale than to fly the route and place the buy order and sell order personally. Which makes this whole video pretty misleading in my opinion

[@BrianRonald]

This. 100% this. Every time this. SO very, very frustrating. All I want to do is drive a Mercury around, buying and selling, but even breaking even is a challenge, unless I put an NPC in the driving seat and stand behind them like a spare part.

[@jh5kl]

except that people like me like to play t as Eurotruck on space (x foundations as the most dynamic market i can think of), so its not misleading, perhaps indeed doing it personally its not the best but it wasn t said to be, so its not misleading

[@spinFK]

So the player needs the same ability to reserve a sale?

[@nikosuniverse3980]

In deed, personal trading does not make many sense. Even at the beginning, crystal mining is more usefull if you ask me. So at the beginning it makes more sense to get a miner if you want to earn some money by yourself. But I have to agree @jh5kl that the Video does not recommend to do so. It is just one of many possibilities. And anyway... whem I remember the beginnings of X3 and X2... how often did I make it to buy a ware for minimum price, just to find no one who want to have it.

[@richino1780]

Is there coop or mp coming or already there ? ... will there ever be ?

[@egosoft]

There are online ventures - It is covered in the videos a bit

[@tokudan]

Basically no. The X series is a single player game and "ventures" are just "hey ship, fly through this gate and disappear for a set time. then hopfully bring me back some items after $time expired". And there's a chance that the ship appears in another player's universe, just flying around a bit.

[@rudolfgernd8760]

That user interface is killing the game for me. I hope Egosoft will reach the 20th century with their next atempt.

[@lannesromain1453]

kind of true but thb the levels of complexity is quite high

[@S.A.7737]

I really need map on secondary monitor)

[@mrpolomar7251]

That would be super handy

[@ימוגגמדחע]

Deploy satellites near every station and you are set

[@manuelcc13able]

Is there a game like this for ps4?

[@Kennet0508]

Consider investing in a green bed sheet or a proper green screen

[@TheMrDanTheMan121]

X4 is sadly another game you are selling in small parts. Its a small fraction of what x3 was, even before albion prelude or terran conflict. You let me down with x rebirth, promised to drag it back with x4, kicked me in the face again. The foundations are there, but it's clear it will be another 4 years until it has the content behind it.

[@artean4700]

No, it isn't 'a small fraction' of X3. Do some research and you will understand why.

[@nikosuniverse3980]

Let me guess, you just startet X3 with TC, or AP? Well, I startet X3 on release. After about 30h game time, the Story was throught, everything explored, Some Stations Build... nothing else to do... That´s how every X started. And they allways made a great game out of it. If you dont like X Rebirth, it´s OK. It was never intended, to be a part of the X Universe. It was an Experiment outside the X-Story. But X4 has a great potential. The econemy is allready much better than in X3. Also the new balancing of L and XL Class ships is very good now. Of course, the fighting action in X3 is much better, but in X4 it´s going to be more and more realistic with every patch. No one man army any more as in X3. That was annoing at the end if you ask me.. After 35 ingame days now in X4, it´s realy hard work here and there, to keep everthing in balance. Especially those paranides down their....

[@DJRYGAR1]

because Egosoft is just few guys and the project is massive to handle. Give them 30 million euros and surely they will hire some help and make things faster/in larger chunks.

[@tokudan]

@@nikosuniverse3980 The one man army is still very relevant. A single Behemoth against an onslaught of 3 Behemoths from the AI and about 15 S and M ships with a slow trickle of 4 more behemoths and roughly 50 more smaller ships over a time of about 90 minutes? Winning that is just stupid as a player and shows how dumb the AI still is. Having the AI do that fight out of sector, my behemoth would have been toast within about 3 minutes. Even in sector it would have only maybe taken 5 to 10 minutes.

[@spacemonkey6070]

biggest disappointment is the quicktime event that is pirating another ship. we got feet, let us use them!!

It would be nice to participate in person of the boarding indeed, that would make the game a lot more GROUNDED.

[@razghul9993]

station or staychen ?

[@nerevarinho5212]

These are all informations that are missing in game..

[@leskass891]

Already told* budy don't do that error again 6:59

[@Khevor]

I like to take time out to trade personally but this game is not friendly to PC traders. By the time you find a good trade and arrive at the station, NPC traders have beat you to it. As such, there is no point in trying to do any trading yourself if you plan on making anything remotely like profit. Better off just doing missions.

[@VashGames]

Where's the X in Trade?

[@johnnyxp64]

i just installed the deluxe digital... and i wonder how long i can enjoy this without playing and sharing it with friends online?! 🙄

[@geoffreymas4415]

Anyone see Kyle,Julian Brenan and Saya Kho or bala gi ?

[@skullowner3999]

Am still waiting for remodel old ships ships Argon Teladi and so on and still waiting for new typs off ships for old factions more S more M more L ships