X4 Foundations - There's NEVER Been a BETTER Time to Play - 7.00 Update

X4 Foundations 7.00 Update, brings a massive number of overhauls and improvements to this space game. X4 is now in perhaps the best place ever for new players to jump in and try it out.
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[@ObsidianAnt]

What's your thoughts on X4? It's been around a while at this point, have you ever played it?

[@SoyElSopa]

I tried it. Minutes after the start, in a base I get out of the ship, look at a flat wall and a couple simple objects. 40fps when I can max out most games, uninstalled. Is it optimized now...?

[@Disappointed_Philosoraptor]

@@SoyElSopa if that was years ago i got good news. it runs with 120+ FPS for me. well, depends on your OC of course but it imnproved a lot as far as i can tell.

[@liammorris1018]

Great game, but X4 is an empire builder for me and i classify elite as a simulator.

[@tankerofplanes7976]

i see everyone recomend it, but everytime i try to get into it, im turned away by horrible UI each time

[@CMDROldDuck]

X4 is probably my GOAT space game at the moment. I still love Space Engineers, but the living galaxy of X4 is so much more enticing to me than the loneliness of Space Engineers. As for Elite, that divorce was finalized a long time ago.

[@CalicoEmpathy]

This game scratches the same itch that Mount and Blade does for me. Start out as a nobody with nothing but the clothes/ship on your back, but one day become the empire spanning force dominating the map.

[@IceKoldX]

Man, wtf is wrong with me. I own warband and bannerlord 2, x4 collectors edition. Yet, I only have like 60 hours combine between them all. Maybe I need to stop buying games and go play the ones I already have. Could probably save a ton of money.

[@Nerwesta]

The ONLY thing this game lacks seriously to be even compared to Mount & Blade is a fully fledged diplomacy system. Sure you as a player can increase your relationship with someone, but you really can't ally with another faction to provoke an unscripted war or help a friend. Not possible.

[@rickyspanish4792]

@@IceKoldX lol I feel that.. I have Warband too and played it once for an hour or so, but failed to pick it up again. I know there's some really solid gameplay waiting there for me and I have ignored it for years now. lol

[@XxKidnoffxX]

@@rickyspanish4792 When Bannerlord was announced. I bought Warband in sales to try it to know if I gonna buy Bannerlord. I played 40 hours and stopped because Bannerlord was suppose to be released that year... Finally Bannerlord get released 8 years later lol, but I have arround 400 hours on Bannerlord. And X4 is my favorite game of all time. I agree with the OP, when I try to explain the X series to someone, I always ask if he know Mount and Blade. But the X series is a lot more complex and deep. And yes, the biggest issue is the diplomacy system, or probably the lack of it lol.

[@rickyspanish4792]

@@XxKidnoffxX definitely got me interested.. if you had to pick one, warband bannerlord or X4, which would you choose?

[@Krisisawake]

X4 is the kind of game the more you play the more you enjoy it. This game is HUGE.

[@axel-xan]

Or the other way. Once you play a lot and you discover more and more bugs, wacky AI, etc. But still it's the best space sim available atm.

[@Krisisawake]

@@axel-xan You are probably right 👍

[@liammorris1018]

@@axel-xan yeah gets worse the more you play lol, i've got 2.5k hours. still a great game though just wish egosoft put some significant effort into improving the Ai and wish they would fix the economy which they're petrified to touch. Many wares don't really have a market.

[@Aves_1]

I keep restarting as I forget how to play

[@niall2236]

I love x4. Its got some jank, but i love starting as a nobody in a fully simulated galaxy and slowly building up to becoming a massive emprie and taking over everything i can. The game just hits different

[@gs8494]

Not going to lie it took me many false starts to get to grips with the game, I'm glad I did but fuck me it wasn't easy.

[@SiCSpiT1]

The beauty of X4 is in the simulation. Sure there are story missions and greater conflicts worth experiencing, but what's truly unique is how you can engage with the entire galaxy while sitting on a station somewhere or teleport to a ship you own and take care of business yourself. I thought about sharing my review from my first playthrough but that’s quite long for a KZbin comment and I’ve many stories that are as interesting as any handcrafted story mission but are so much more interesting because they organically happened. So, this is a taste of what you've been missing out on if you've been sleeping on X4. I'd recently bought a large mining ship to mine the distant gas clusters; it was early in my playthrough so this was a big investment. Unfortunately, I didn’t scout the sectors ahead of time thoroughly enough and overlooked a Xeon incursion taking place in the path of my large miner. “Well that’s ten million down the drain.” I thought. Or was it? None of my larger fighting ships were close enough to assist, but I did have ten or so small and medium ships policing sectors near the Jump Gate Highway. Alone they couldn’t fight off a Xeon incursion or the K destroyer that entered the sector, but they might serve as a distraction long enough for the large miner to get its warp drive back online and flee. It was a long shot but it was better than waiting for its inevitable demise. I rallied the small ships into a squad since they’d get there first and ordered them to attack my target, one by one we entered the sector, just in time before the miner was in range of the K destroyers’ main battery. It was a good day to die, but surprisingly I suffered no casualties. After the miner left the sector I ordered the retreat. Through hit and run tactics it was enough for my newly acquired miner to escape and we put a nice dent in the robot population. But yeah, that’s X4, you should buy it.

[@predragpesic5953]

Yup, that is an amazing story and is telling me a lot about the game. I always had the impression that the X series is like Starsector, except realized in full 3d. And I never got to it because it was always one generation behind the curve in therms of visuals. But now I can see that it has gotten some really nice PBR shaders, and volumetric lighting and some other goodies. So I got one question, and it is about the combat. How would you compare it to Elite Dangerous, for example? In ED, the key to combat was to manage your shields/engine/weapons and to first position yourself in a safe spot (usually in the rear arc of the enemy ship). And only then would you transfer everything to weapons and fire away. Now, for most people, the ED combat is seen as challenging, because the enemy can easily escape that position, and then come behind you. So the game requires for you to constantly be on your toes and to anticipate enemy's actions... On the other hand, you have games inspired by Freelancer (such as Spacebourne 2 and Everspace 2) that I found to be way too easy, and much more focused on gear, and less on the piloting skill.

[@efxnews4776]

@@SiCSpiT1 i have 5k hours of X4 and i have plenty stories like this... Fleet combat can sometimes take days, and sometimes be trully dramatic... Every ship you lose is tens of thousands to millions lost... You can literally destroy your own empire, by do something dumb like invade a xenon sector without a decent fleet to back you up, but even then, when disaster happen you still can say... "WOW this really happened?" X4 universe feels alive, and the more you play the more you engage the more the universe change in the way you play

[@efxnews4776]

@@predragpesic5953 combat in X4 is challenging as it is brutal, newbies tend to suffer because you need to know a lot of shortcuts (if you play with keyboard +mouse), shortcuts that newbies don't know at the beginning of the game, fortunately the basics you learn in the tutorial, will cover your simple pew pew maneuvers. One thing you should know is that your booster ability is tied with your shields, so the more you boost, the more shield you lose. Over time you will master this though... Another important ability you should master is match target speed, this would ensure you ship computer control your engine, so your ship would constantly in the same speed as your target. X4 has newtonian physics, so one of the manuevers you can do is space drifting. X4 has different sizes of ships that you can pilot and as such the size and category of your ship will dictate How combat will play out, playing with a fighter or a frigate is different than playing with a destroyer or battleship. The bigger the size the slower they move, but in short S and M ships play like your average fighter, while L and XL you need to do a lot of positioning and it plays out more like a chess match. Play with capital ships can be very boring, but remember, every ship you have is yours to fly, and a carrier can carry a lot of S and M ships that you can fly.

[@SiCSpiT1]

@@efxnews4776 All this talk about X4 is making me want to dust off the flight stick. Actually you can take a Xenon sector with 5 well equipped Odysseus destroys if you're careful and take advantage of out of sector combat early in a playthrough. However, you're correct, it is very risky to do so without a decent supply chain or support ships.

[@efxnews4776]

@@SiCSpiT1 well, that was mostly some tips i gave to the newcomer, in fact if you have a Syn, you can take down an xenon sector if you play safe, it will take a lot of time and it is boring afk to do that yourself... For newcomers is better if they taste battle playing safe with a decent fleet. One of my latest attempts was try to take down a xenon k with bombs... I manage to do so, but have to disable all all it's guns and leave it with 1% of integrity with my hunter squad... It kind sucks... It would be cool if i could disable the destroyer using bombs...

[@cmdrgogen3203]

Once you play long enough and shape the galaxy with your actions (economic, strategic and tactical), it's very difficult to stop. You may even know by name that rare 5-star pilot you just appointed to your flagship, among maybe thousands of crewmembers in dozens of ships. It really becomes your unique and personal space sandbox you can connect with. Great game, always installed with all DLCs even if I take month long pauses.

[@ZombieWolf2113]

I’m not much of a single player person but I do play some single player games, I love star citizen and elite dangerous do you think this game would be a nother space game i might be looking for?

[@viperswhip]

That's when I stop playing lol

[@Onua118]

@@ZombieWolf2113 If you enjoy SC and Elite you would probably like this one too. Everything is currently on sale at the moment which is also nice a complete bundle running $60-ish USD. Just be aware that the learning curve is much higher than SC or Elite.

[@Dante3214]

@@ZombieWolf2113 It's hard to say without knowing exactly what you are looking for. The graphics and flight sim are better in Star Citizen and Elite. The X series is less serious than those, but much more serious in theme than No Man's Sky. However, in X you can work up to literally becoming your own faction and owning a massive death fleet (or a massive space empire). Or you can grow space weed... and sabotage other space weed farms creating a sneaky space weed monopoly! Like the other games it has a huge learning curve and some jank (but not more than SC!). I would recommend anyone that likes space sims try it.

[@efxnews4776]

@@cmdrgogen3203if you are expecting gameplay like Elite and SC in regards as planet exploration and such, forget about, the game does have some space exploration, sometimes is required you leave the ship in space to do some EVA, but not much beyond that, the game does feature space sim combat, it does have space legs, but the gameplay changes half way in the middle of the game to an empire / fleet management, game.

[@braveheart1985]

Bernd Lehahn is a beautiful genius. The X series is like an ongoing love story and has been on my pc for many years. Want to create a massive fleet and take a system? You can. Want to sabotage rival companies to get the upper hand in trade? You can. Want to employ an NPC pilot to fly you around in real time while you're going about your business? You can. X4 also have a massive modding community openly and fully supported and encouraged by the devs. The only thing you cannot do is land on planets, but I am sure Bernd will get round to that one day.

[@guillaumefavier9640]

Not sur about land on planets. It is very difficult to add, and what do you want in this feature? Just Land on barren worlds? Make bases ? Cities? With ecomy, with npc people doing some things? With , bars, Shops, industries ? A mini cyberpunk in all planets? That's a near impossible step.

[@JoernR]

Want to play in VR? You can't.

[@thunderfart31]

what if you don't want to do any of that? What if I just wanna stay a small guy doing trade routes/small missions etc, is that an option in this game?

[@Micromation]

Except for X: Rebirth. It wasn't a love story, it was a shart.

[@SVNTrw]

@@thunderfart31 yup

[@onspeed5555555]

X4 sound like a Mount and Blade in the space.

[@jh5kl]

two very underatted gems of the gaming industry

[@richjenkins8794]

I play it as an economy sim that happens to have a cool space theme. Generally I end up sitting in a nearly indestructible capital ship surrounded by a fleet, defending a few sectors from Xenon because I need those sectors as trading partners, or because I have a pile of factories there. I kind of prefer it if I don't have to dogfight. In fact, I'd rather just watch the A.I. do battle, as long as I don't get blown up.

[@TheFrantic5]

I just started playing this last night after having picked it up in a sale a few years ago, and I have to agree that the tutorials are very good. I was playing the basic tutorials while my spouse was watching, and she jokingly said "you should go for a walk." And I got up, checked the teleporter, and yep, I could go walk! What followed next was a 5 minute wrestling match with Newtonian physics while I figured out how to get back in my ship. Hilarity ensued.

[@adamgerald849]

I just got the game and I was really impressed with how in the tutorial I actually climb a ladder and walk into my ship and to the pilot's seat. Walking around in ships adds so much to the immersion of space games (I'm lookin' at you Elite: Dangerous 😢)

[@Relt88]

I love both this game and Elite and after playing Elite in VR, i wish X4 had VR support as well.

[@slaphead90]

Totally - once you've played Elite in VR there is no going back to pancake. I just wish I could get into NMS, but the control system just buggers me up.

[@danilooliveira6580]

ah yes, sit in your manager chair and play with spreadsheets in the starmap in VR, the true capitalist experience.

[@MN-vz8qm]

I love VR, but X4 has tons of spreadsheets, i don't think i would like to read in vr

[@isatche]

@@MN-vz8qm UI would also have to adjust. Elite in VR is such a compelling experience, I wish there is something similar in the market.

[@nekocatmeow7959]

​​@@danilooliveira6580ngl would be cool to appear as an hologram in VR.. makes you feel like a space admiral or the fleet command in Homeworld

[@kaimeraprime]

Now this is a much better overview of the game. Thanks for taking time to address people's comments and clarifying things.

[@trashblob]

When I was mad because of X Rebirth not being X4, I never thought I would actually someday not only like Rebirth, no, I never thought how well they would make X4 too. It was good when it came out, But now it is a beautiful piece of work. Great job Egosoft! Vielen Dank!

[@Suriel08]

I bought my first X- Game as kind of an accident. I had two hours for my train to leave and just went into a mall looking at random stuff. There was a boxed X2 - which included a real paper novel too. So I thought this was ideal for a four hours train ride and maybe the night after. So I read most of the the novel - the first of the Nopileus novels in German - and installed the game when I arrived home. And that was the beginning of a very much cherished addiction. There was no STEAM yet, so I don't know exactly how many hours I put into X2, but it must have been... thousands... The three instances of X3 also were great of course. And then we'll not talk about the X that never should have been. But X4 was very fun and very much a true X game again. I have the same love for Elite, I played the original from 1984. And some of the later games. And of course Elite Dangerous. I wouldn't compare those games to X4. Or any X. Both games are sandboxes. But there the comparison ends. X titles are about Empire building, economy. Some exploration, but the game world is always relatively small. Elite Dangerous is multiplayer. It doesn't allow you to directly take control of an Empire and build stations. But it's quality is really in getting "lost" in space, as opposed by getting lost in conquering space. They are both beautiful games and I cherish both X4 and Elite Dangerous for very different reasons.

[@Dante3214]

same, glad I stumbled onto x3 back in the day!

[@Paul_Hardy]

I find the X series to feel more like EvE than Elite. Heavy focus on resource extraction and industry.

[@CMDROldDuck]

I think if X4 as "Eve for me". I wanted to get into Eve, but the toxic online community, the pay-to-win mechanics, the inability to fly my own ships from the cockpit, all of that killed it for me.

[@Paul_Hardy]

@@CMDROldDuck The pay to win stuff finally saw me walk away after around 20 years of on and off playing the game. It was truly groundbreaking back in the day, but it's sadly fallen victim to the worst trope of modern MMO's.

[@mainomai]

If you ever want to play EVE offline, try Astrox Imperium.

[@harrasika]

I wish there was a game like Elite Dangerous where you could explore earth-like planets. Would put thousands of hours into that.

[@puntacana7550]

Don’t forget the spacelegs 💀

[@RoninTheBlackFox]

Totally! I don’t care if it’s 2d… just needs the depth and wonderment

[@Filsoh]

Spacebourne 2

[@TheOfficialSethos]

Yes and not some tacky indie game. I hate when you ask for "Imagine an EVE-like game but single-player" you are always suggested these indie games that are MILES from the thing you want.

[@Di3Leberwurst]

I wish there was a X4 without the legs. I hate space legs

[@bulletstop100]

Been playing the hell out of it recently!! I started with egosoft around 1999 for XBTF! Picked up and played every iteration of the X series and in each iteration, they just get better!!

[@GameCruton]

Perfect timing! I was just looking into solo space games while I wait for Star Citizen to drop the next patch. And this one was one that kept cropping up. Thank you.

[@scintilion]

as a concierge and recent evocado, I enjoy X4 and Stellaris as my SC alternates. Building X4 stations and developing commerce, first person PvE and fleet command add up to a lot of fun.

[@GameCruton]

@@scintilion Nice! I'm thinking I'll start with the base game and work toward DLC as I go / have time. I'm really digging how it looks (X4).

[@Sealreth]

@@scintilion Sins of solar empire II is starting to look really good too :D

[@timd9467]

Did you get it? What's your thoughts so far

[@bsavage5128]

I've been playing the X games since X2 and it's absolutely incredible how far the games have come. Still my number one pick for an immersive space sim. My favorite part being its a SINGLE PLAYER sandbox where I can manipulate economies and factions and have a real effect on the game simulation, I can be "The Guy".

[@halloweentimemachine]

During the space game sale last month, due to your video recommendation, I finally put in the 20 requisite hours to learn this game. It's amazing. I actually have owned it for years but bounced off a few times before this. I'm so glad I watched your video and gave it a shot. If anyone is on the fence: do you like transport tycoon but wish it had 3d space battles that you got to participate in when you weren't building your supply chains? If so, this is for you

[@TheGunnarRoxen]

I'm loving the X4 experience. The more I play, the more I love it. I already have 10 ships running around doing all sorts of things.

[@kuroneko3451]

Thank you Obsidian, You always remind me of games I should go back to play again.. because it was fun. The new update looks amazing!

[@StoneLegion]

So glad you been playing / exploring other games then elite. We all want elite to be successful, but it seems that is not on the agenda. I been playing X3/X4 since the beginning and I have to say the best time to start X4 is tomorrow at 1PM EST for the expansion release. The tutorials have been heavily updated, so it should make a welcoming intro for new players. Tons of QOL, New Features and more with just the base game and then of course a new expansion :)

[@_Jay_Maker_]

Don't forget to set up your automated turret killbox on any gates that the Xenon are pouring through, particularly in Argon territory.

[@Theigzorn]

best place a deffence station with scrap geathering and recycle plants as well for the sweet claytronics and hull parts in front of the gate.

[@SiCSpiT1]

Actually, you should stack fighters there instead. Fastest way to get a 5 star pilot. Later on squad them to an Auxiliary ship and deploy them with point defense command(pretty sure that's the name).

[@jo-fe9mb]

remember to stay out of system so the ai actually shoots things

[@SiCSpiT1]

@@jo-fe9mb You can mitigate this issue by equipping your M-class and higher with fast rotating lasers and flat turrets, especially at their flanks. When you're out of sector the game is only really calculating dps and health pools, so a M-class ship out of sector should never lose to a S-class ship. But in sector the game has to account for how the ships actually fly and weapon placement, so a fast S-class can easily out maneuver and win against a M-class ship. Referring to combat ships obviously. Laser beam turrets are great not for their dps but as a continuous stream of damage to shields, which pairs nicely with flat turrets because they do solid slash damage to the hull. I wouldn't use missiles at all until you can afford axillary ships. A good rule of thumb to follow when configuring your ships: The main battery kills the big stuff and your turrets kill the fast stuff. Never let your combat ships fly alone. With these principals in mind your ai will kickass whether you're in or out of sector.

[@Falx01]

My favorite gate cork is a 1 med dock, 4 Boron 8 Argon defense platform setup. Load the Boron up with nets etc and Argon with plasma and beam / flack. Station one trash pilot on it with repeat orders Dock / collect. Watch fleets burn & $$$ at the same time.

[@the_babbleboom]

i had the first 2 X games, and since a long time now i just don't enjoy single players like that much anymore. now my BF plays x4 for me sometimes and it's nice to just watch. it's nice to see how that game evolved. it's one of the few things that are going right in gaming instead of turning to crap like so many other games.

[@alphaomega154]

what i love about this game is, the fact that you get to build FLEETS. not just one, MULTIPLE FLEETS. if you have gain so much economy. you will wind up with hundreds of ships and crafts doing their things for your faction. trading, mining, protecting some territory, protecting your mining groups, protecting your stations etc. and if you are like me, who carefully trying to nurture precious early group of pilots/crafts during your early time on building your fleet, you could have several pilots that would still be with you for even the next hundred of play hours, which you might have moved to and between ships. like for example i have some of my early pilots later on being captain to my capital ships. while some others i gave them some of my strongest and most well equipped combat ships. so and when something happen to them, you lost them in some freak conflict somewhere in far sector when you told them to guard a trade convoy of yours, you will MOURN about them for DAYS. as if you really losing some real comrades. because they have been with you since you started the game. and that also makes you very very prudent on waging any conflict, since you dont want to lose anybody. this is the only game that ever made me feel that way.

[@IsraeliDino]

Sounds like an absolutely incredible experience! Wow. RIP to your fallen comrades - they are one with the stars now

[@efxnews4776]

@@IsraeliDinothis is just one of the amazing aspects of this game, the ranking system of pilots and crew takes some time and so usually your first pilots would be the ones who will put as captains of carriers and admirals of your fleet, and this is all organic...

[@SnowNinja]

Amazing video, elite lead me to the x4 franchise and will never look back. Thank you for doing the x series justice with this video

[@homerp.hendelbergenheinzel6649]

i will never forget the fight i had to put in getting into the x universe with x3 reunion. i only had heard about xbtf before, but apart from it being a game in space i didnt knew anything about it. what i can say is, that it was a very rewarding experience. also the replayability is insane, which is also part of the rewarding experience, because you wont make all those errors you made on the savegame before. one of the most memorable gaming moments i will probably remember forever is getting crushed by a boron tl entering a sector and i didnt move away because i handled my incoming messages right after i jumped and idled at the jumpgate - man i would have loved to see my face there trying to figure out what happened xD

[@tomriley5790]

Never played it but have been aware of it for years! Sounds like a great game!

[@Trener_Artem]

You can spend months in X series, not hours. World of Warcraft devoured 10 years of my life (im not sorry), the X series is second time consumer DESPITE of it being single player game, which is insane.

[@DewtehDew]

No need to be sorry, I love WoW and can’t wait for The War Within. MoP Remix has been fun.

[@IceKoldX]

Been playing WoW since 2004 but I do enjoy my space games too. I haven't really put much time into X4. Maybe I should. 😆

[@thomashenderson3326]

X4 is one of those rare gems where: The more you play, the more you want to play more. I have almost 800 hours in the game and I have more I want to do. It keeps you coming back year after year because there's always more to do. The simulation is second to none, which means the sandbox is second to none. It has a learning curve, sure, but honestly, compared to Elite: Dangerous it's much simpler. Go through the flight school tutorials, but even after that you'll learn so much more as you play. It is absolutely amazing though. I am surprised the game doesn't have more followers. It's flight model may not be the "best" according to some but it is fun and dynamic without being too painful to adapt to. I actually enjoy the flight model a lot and think it's the most fun for my preference. Seeing your armada getting into battle is an unparalleled reward, even if you lose. Not to mention the satisfaction of building your own space station or network of stations. And the lore of the universe is surprisingly good.

[@ZanTheFox]

It's one of the best space simulator games out there. Unless you count X3 and X2

[@Sylusssss]

I really hate the comparisions of x games to elite The flight model just isnt there Elite is about flying space ships X is about flying fleets of spaceships

[@CMDROldDuck]

I fly space ships in X4, 6DoF, FA-off, and absolutely love it. Personally I find the flight model superior to Elite. I much prefer being in the cockpit over managing a fleet with maps and menus, and guess what, this is 100% achievable in X4. Building fleets is optional (though I enjoy that as well).

[@jh5kl]

x series had an incredebly massive fly model improvement when they implemented a completely new physics engine, it cannot be compared to what it was in the beginning

[@MasouShizuka]

I think overall it is better than Elite:Dangerous. From piloting huge ships to setting up complex logistical station/production to huge battles involving hundreds of YOUR ships is a huge immersion booster. Knowing your own ships and crew are on the line fighting the big baddies like Xenon.

[@wolfhound146]

Just for a microscopic example of how your actions matter, you could take a small mining and trading ship and set the miner to mine ore and have it deliver it to the refined metal production to make refined metal. To dumb that down it's the ore refinery. Then you can take the same small ship as the trader variant and have it trade those refined metals to hull part stations. After a while you can now afford another of those small traders.and you can use that to now transfer those hull parts to a wharf (small ship production), a shipyard (capital ship production) or an equipment dock. Now to give you the scale of how something so small can help. You have created a dynamic that say if you were supplying a wharf. That little bit of refined metals and hull parts you were moving could literally be the difference of waiting on materials for another new ship or it being able to go ahead and make it on the spot. There are other materials you can do this for as well. In the beginning I would suggest sticking to helping one faction or race you have taken a liking to. The start is literally that you piggyback off of their success. That is how you learn to crawl before you learn to walk into getting your own stations. Running would be having your own empire where you are fully independent from other factions and they need you to keep them stable.

[@mikecroper8422]

Egosoft's X series... probably one of the best space, fleet management games on the market. Truly epic. I would love Star Citizen to have an economy game mechanic as good as X4

[@sjonjones4009]

X4 is a great Sci-fi game! Every "new game" is literally a new experience in each playthrough; the universe is so dynamic and unpredictable (including bugs, balancing, AI, etc.😂)

[@Retheraq]

Did they finally add back the ATF? The Tyr, the Woden, the Valhalla were amazing. The best design language I have ever seen for a ship line. And I have seen a lot of sci fi.

[@robotba89]

X4 with some Gladiator NXT flight sticks is some of the best gaming I've had in years. I even got X4 with all the DLC for less than the price of a new game.

[@Eyeslayer]

I bought X 4 back when it first came out. i got stuck on the starship build at the start of the game and well never went back. I downloaded it and then remembered my frustration and uninstalled it again a month ago but I think you do a better job promoting this game than the company that made it. because now I really want to give it another shot. keep up the amazing vids Obsidian though honestly you should charge these companies for promoting their games since they don't seem to do as good of a job lol

[@R0dLentini]

Oh just imagine what 7.0 will allow the Star Wars Inteworlds mod to do!

[@Shuulleecho]

yep, imagining right now

[@TroaBarton]

Glad to see some X4 love, I have to agree that it is one of the best space games.

[@Katz2001]

I wish i could play co-op in this type of game, because a huge game like this just seems like it would be great if i had my bro's with me

[@BlissfulZen]

X games, with the exception of Rebirth (and even that title has its charms) were always remarkable in a very specific way; junky, overly complex, charming, captivating, vast in scope, gorgeous, unique, highly addictive, ability to be modded, high replayability through various starting scenarios and this is not all it has going for itself. Vastly underrated and often overlooked, amazing series for decades already...

[@lordflashheart3680]

I'm a big fan of X4, I have 500+hrs in game and counting. I have been playing the public beta of the 7.0 update and it does add quite a bit to the game.

[@GeorgeNoX]

X games have always for me been the pinnacle of space sim genre and with this latest update X4 has become better than ever

[@craphat1873]

Such an amazing game. Totaly immersive and utterly compeling.

[@Siledas]

Frontier failing at connecting their gameplay loops is a massive understatement. They even fumbled the opportunity for ground combat to actually work like a combined arms shooter, instead of just a poor facsimilie of Halo with hilariously inconsistent TTK.

[@stevetowner8091]

X4 and Elite Dangerous are my favorite space games. I wish X4 had the universe, on foot gameplay and flight model of ED. I wish ED had the fleet and station management and hiring NPC that actually work for you. Great to switch between the two.

[@R0d_1984]

Love X3TC, cant stand ED's FM, ED's FA is weird, can't work it out (600 hrs), X3TC's FA is SO much better, the things i can do with it...

[@Chris-zi4mo]

X4's graphics look like they have had an upgrade. Even the UI looks nicer, that little added glow really makes a difference.

[@DoNeeh]

A big fan of the old Freelancer (2003) game by Microsoft. I can't believe that I just found this game very recently, it just ticks everything and I'm glad that I found this game. Can't wait to buy this game, hopefully during the sales. Very cool video! Earned a sub!

[@R0d_1984]

FL, me too (Wish i still had a hardcopy...), i also played Freespace before FL; i played X3TC about 14-15 years ago, still have it, really great game, hard to start but it was/is really good, though... 2008 (me 2010), i could force pilots to eject (even large cargo ships), (and EVA to a space station), i could fly to their ship, take it over (claim), eva, use a repair lazer to fix it, then, fly it, or send it to a station, sell it or keep it as part of my fleet; add it to a wing to remote attack or patrol, or escort say cargo/mining ship etc etc etc... There's not a single game even now that does even close to what X3TC (obviously X4) did in 2008 (2010).. You could not only buy and place a space station (many different types) you could construct a station complex made up of dozen (even hundreds) of station types to make components (weapons, food, power cells etc, set up mining ships, cargo ships (to collect parts, materials etc) and set them to do loops; i had about 500 mining and cargo ships alone (you can transfer to them and fly them around, can buy a teleportation system and beam on board - 2.5km?) or cruisers or carriers (can carry 30+ fighters, depending on species), so much more...

[@Briggie]

Man, X4 has come a long way since its release in 2018.

[@corsonebula]

I was waiting for the day when ObsidianAnt would really enter the X4 world, this game is special, especially for space fans. It's difficult at first, but with patience and persistence, we will discover a universe that was close to us and that we thought was nothing special, but this one is, and it has everything, well almost everything, unfortunately we don't have planets, which is what this game lacks but doesn't stop it from being one of the best space games today. Difficult at the beginning, feeling of power in the middle and love at the end ; ) -3000K hours of great Empires here!

[@jh5kl]

+1 for planets 🙂

[@spankyjeffro5320]

Yes, the lack of planetary gameplay does in fact stop X4 from being even a good space game, let alone the best.

[@arcadius2423]

One of the best games out there, especially in the "space" genre. It isnt the best in any area, but as a whole, its amazing. Expect a slow start.

[@JohnAllen23]

VR, planet landing = Elite. Everything else X4.

[@Magnumi]

How does X4 support VR gaming?

[@rustyfmj2388]

After several hundred hours in X4 i've come to the conclusion my biggest gripe with the game is the elevators. They've made an effort to give all races their own ship interior aesthetics etc but the whole damn universe bought elevators from the same supplier. Blasphemy!

[@jh5kl]

😂

[@quicksylverg9923]

So like doors in Apex Legends :D

[@michaelbennett7561]

If you use an elevator onboard a Split station, to enter a large Boron ship, how do you handle the transition with the elevator interiors between the two, if the Split station and Boron ship have different elevator interiors?

[@vividvault9285]

Oh nice, I'll have to give the new update a try. I bought x4 a year or so ago, but it was very hard to get into in my 2 attempts. I'll give it another go with the update.

[@michaelbaker8212]

The idea that there are space sim gamers out there that have never heard of the x franchise baffles me. I started playing x beyond the frontier in late 98 as I had a friend who knew the developers. It was so amazing then. X4 has fixed or added everything that is necessary for a great space sim.

[@Kinski79]

I wish this game had ground combat and exploration

[@hermanvisser4034]

Couldn't agree with you more. I come from ED with having played more then 5000 hours in ED. I love X4 and am having a great time.

[@Skychaser67]

I play Elite Dangerous for the VR experience

[@Genny_Woo]

Star citizen VR is better tho lol

[@xxGjbbyxx]

I too, got into ED initially for the VR experience, then learned it's galaxy is a virtual replica of our real galaxy, where near every single star or thing that we see in-game we can actually travel to. It's an amazing thought to look out the window of your real home, or from your real porch or balcony, into space and think,... hmm,... I can actually go there in ED. If we consider ED's space to be boring, while at the same time consider it to be pretty accurately simulated (ED is highly considered a "space Simulator" or at the least has a "simulated space"), then what ED is showing us is what it's Engine is predicting to be out there. For me that is fine because if FDev says ED's space is pretty accurate to our real life space, then I know what I'm experiencing, is true to NASA's current knowledge. (Not calling any or either perfectly true. I haven't personally stepped foot on another space body and traversed it, every inch). With my current time of over 4000+ hours in-game, I don't think or would call that boring to me at all. I don't have a VR HDMI any longer at the moment, so what keeps me in ED is it's awe inspiring realism. For me it is truly amazing with or without VR. So on that note, if I want to play a game with boat loads of fake strange things on space bodies surfaces, then I'll play those games for those adventures. And yes,... There are some fakeness going on in ED too, but not over abundantly as what some think should be in ED as it is in other games. Love you all! As always, this is imo. God first!!! God bless!!! Love One Another, as Christ Jesus, Love Us!!! Alleluia Alleluia Alleluia Amen Amen Amen

[@Genny_Woo]

@@xxGjbbyxx idk but play star citizen with VorpX for VR, if easy anti cheat didn’t ban it

[@rwentfordable]

​@@Genny_Wooare you blind or do you work for RSI? 😂

[@Genny_Woo]

@@rwentfordable ???

[@Ploskkky]

I bought the complete game with a huge discount a few weeks ago. I have not played it yet, but it is on my "to play list". I wish Elite Dangerous had the variation that is present in the X games.

[@SternLX]

Heh... X4 is my fall back when I take a break from Star Citizen "Testing". 7.0 Update is a culmination of updates that were sorely needed. If you like space games and haven't played X4 yet, you're missing out on some good stuff.

[@kurstein79]

i love the X games and i love to play x4 i only got 1600 hours in the game it is nice change egosoft made with update 7

[@HammerFang]

I play Elite for great immersion. X4 is not close to it unfortunately but I'm very impressed by overall amount of content in X4. What I need in Elite is possibility to add additional window with "intelligent" drone camera view to watch on for example another screen :)

[@StikoNiko]

I play X since 2002. X Beond the Frontier. WOW X2 Series was nice. X3 was my life. X Rebirth was a Shame. X4 starts nice, but now its fantastic. At the moment, its the best. Timeline is not my favorite, but the update is cool.

[@brandongarrett2309]

X4 - simply the best.

[@MrHrannsi]

Never heard of it, but, X4 hello!!!!

[@spacekettle2478]

I've tried it once when it released, the foundations are all there, and I really like the idea and what's possible in it. What I think it really needs right now is polish. Redesign the UI, yes, retain the complexity but make it easier to operate and find stuff you need. (I mean yes in the real world a lot of programs are really complicated to use and have really bad UI, but I would hope that a spacefaring civilization would've already made some advancements in that department, at least to a level where their worst UIs are already as good as the better UIs we have nowadays) Sound design - this one made me realize how good Elite's sound design is.. Graphics and performance (hopefully it's already much better now?)

[@guillaumefavier9640]

This game is truly awesome. I play X série games since X2 the Threat, and it's always a great time. I spent 670h in X4, and it's still amazing. The main good thing with X4 is that the devs still continue to improve it and to listen to the community for feature to add. Anyway, I don't understand why a lot of people compare X4 to Elite. Both games are really different.

[@mainomai]

X games have been installed on my computer(s) for a quarter of a century. X3 through its various incarnations and mods probably has my highest play time for any game.

[@christopherdaffron8115]

For my gaming, Elite Dangerous has been essentially single player as well.

[@steveprivate1232]

Same here, and so true. I play in Open and when I happened to glance at my Comms. panel the other day I counted a whopping 4 contacts in the last year.

[@abranubes9571]

Love X4, and I like to extend the gameplay with some mods. Ultimately, if it could add a bit more interactions and dynamism between the factions, it would be ideal. My dream is X4 combined with Startrader and Starsector (+Nexerelin). Still, X4 is a blast overall and satisfying to master.

[@dhoffnun]

Heck, X4 was my off-ramp for Elite after the latter lost my interest years ago. Even then, X4 ended up being much closer to the experience that I wanted out of E:D, which itself had promised single player accommodations early in its development. When I wanted "space legs" in Elite, this is what I was talking about. If only I had the time, I would indeed jump back into X for this update.

[@manu_le_maboul]

X4 is as deep as elite is wide while being wider than elite is deep. Think of it as a first person eve offline, large scale battles included; oh and it got mod support so you can mod it to improve combat and the flight models to some extent.

[@mikael2670]

Its great, the randomness makes each playthrough unique. What factions will be the agressors this time? (Beside the obvious Xenon and Kaakh). The depth is crazy once you go down the rabbithole. Somewhat easy to start, hard to master. Just love the stationbuilding etc beside the normal fly and pew-pew aspects of it (thats also well executed)

[@MonkeyMind69]

Outside of the UI (User interface), the X-series of games have been absolutely the best Space sim games in my opinion. There are other space sim games that do certain things better, but overall (excluding the UI), the X-series games are the best. If the developers could get a really good and intuitive UI built for the game, which would involve getting people who don't think like coders involved in the UI design, they could corner the market.

[@PRodi_]

I really hope the developers will consider adding VR support to this game someday.

[@Reginaldesq]

Wow, the new graphics look great

[@TheMrEvs]

i have 200h+ in the 'Star Wars: Interworlds' mod alone. amazing game.

[@artean4700]

X4 is fantastic.

[@Ghorum]

This game drags my poor computer to its knees. I have learned that whatever empire I am going to build, it isn't going to be fielding carriers.

[@adriansanchez8825]

X4 for me is literally what i wanted elite to be. Elite has more polished but to me this doesn't matter as in Elite anything you do really doesn't impact anything

[@smeggysmeg]

When I was getting bored with Elite Dangerous in 2018, I tried starting up X4. I played all of the iterations of X3 to thousands of hours. But X4 felt like Star Citizen -- it's trying to be a complete simulation to the point that I have to fiddle with every little object, fighting the interface a lot. Also, the modding scene is hard to work with on Linux, and I remember mods are what X3 fantastic. I'll probably give it another try some time soon.

[@wintermutevsneuromancer8299]

i had sooo many hours in X3.... crazy awesome game back then....

[@stemill1569]

X4 I love the X games since X2. Exploration is amazing. Missions are sweet. X4 got a great story by now. Building a huge company, fleets or even an "own race" to fight all the others? And fighting is fun. What mods would you recommend right now? It's some time ago the last time I played and since I got a new PC I haven't played...the damn process of installing mods. 😁 Elite: Dangerous is also fun. It's nice when joining one of the life factions to achieve monthly goals together. There are some nice communities that increase the fun. The big negative is what you kind of have with all online games, especially space online games. Many players are just assholes and make their day to kill people who have no interest in fighting. Thing with that is after death you need to buy everything again. You kind of start at zero.

[@itworkss]

I love X4 and the X series. But really waiting for a solid co-op mode.

[@ydkaachillesa9353]

Not my kind of game, but strangely I like to watch videos of people playing it...also, mesmerizing music in this title.

[@metalwizard1969]

If I could Frankenstein ED, X4, and Empyrion together. . .I’d never leave.

[@kpr_drone4888]

How can your graphics be so good? Also are you playing in vr?

[@CromezFIN]

X4 with ED sound desing and flightmodel ❤❤ Best thing of X4 is......the soundtrack!! It is just awesome!

[@EtheE]

3:00 The bigger issue with Elite I feel like is that there's real depth to the gameplay loops. Yeah combat, mining and trading can be fun at the core loops, but there's very little if any variety to them and after the first couple of hours they become super repetitive. There's also no reason to engage in these gameplay loops other than progression, and every last one of them offer pathetic rewards in terms of credits and engineering materials when compared to alternatives (as well as just looking at it from a "am I wasting my time" perspective). Throughout all of Elite it really feels like fdev just added a bunch of minimalistic gameplay loops and skipped the part where you add meaningful and interesting content on top of those loops.

[@leeebbrell9]

I always remember seeing x for the first time years ago, when elite dangerous didn't exist, I always thought it was closest to my favourite elite from 90s

[@delaray7]

Not heard you for a long time, ObsidianAnt, since you taught me about Elite Dangerous. My last X game I played was X Beyound the Frontier, and Frontier before that, with the most excellent David Brabben in charge. Loved those game but hated Elite Dangerous for spending hours altering and buying things for my ship to go mining, only to be blown out the water by a ship I didn't see. Too old for that rubbish. I love to trade and build though. Can I do that in X4 without the surprise explosions. Fighting is not my cup of tea. Great to hear you again and I hope you are well.

[@TheWorldsprayer]

good lord this looks so much better than usual

[@R0d_1984]

I first seriously started in X3TC, (about 2010, came out in 2008), and i really liked the visuals, still do, even the look of the ships, stations etc, could do with a little update, but it doesn't bother me (low expectations? lol).

[@nonyabisness6306]

I was actually really looking forward to Elite when it was announced, but once it was clear it was multiplayer...well, not what i was looking for. X on the other hand is fantastic, although i wish the release version would've had a story like previous titles. Pure Space Sim can be somewhat un-engaging.

[@hlriiiviiiv]

X4 scratches my decades long freelancer itch

[@OperationDx1]

I used to love the X games. But X4 was / is broken on a fundamental level. Building an empire and getting everything to work has been a nightmare last time I played about a year ago.

[@wonkothesane3482]

I've enjoyed the X series of games for a while now, the only big feature I've ever wanted them to add is multiplayer. I'm not talking MMO level of course, but I would love to be able to set up a private server and play X4 with a group of my friends.