What It’s Like For Some Gay Men To Come Out As Republican l FiveThirtyEight

Gay people in America overwhelmingly vote for Democrats and have done so for decades. But they aren’t a monolithic group. In our second episode of “Political Outliers,” meet two gay Republicans - one in his 20s and one in his 60s - who have been lifelong conservatives. Hear how they developed their political ideologies and which issues motivate them to stay loyal to the GOP.
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[@philipemaromba]

Being gay doesn't force you to be a Democrat.

[@Attmay]

That is a boomer argument which makes it automatically wrong. Both the homosexual and heterosexual members of that generation slutted it up during the 1970s and then left every generation after it to deal with the consequences of their actions while engaging in the largest act of generational wealth hoarding in history. I’m a capitalist through and through, but let me tell you, that ain’t capitalism. It’s an incoherent mishmash of contradictory legislation that never should’ve been passed and needs to be repealed. The implication that Gay people are one issue voters is so offensive. It is not even worth taking seriously intellectually. It’s not the 90s anymore. GOP conventions now get better Gays but we’re celebrities. Going from Pat Buchanan into Peter Thiel is a step up. Going from Ricky Schroder to Scott Baio is a step down. Going from George W. Bush to Donald Trump is a huge step up. That former Olympic athlete who killed a woman and now expects us to call him one is a step down for Californians when we could’ve had Larry Elder. That’s the one thing I will never forgive log cabin for as an organization. They don’t seem too particularly interested in promoting either homosexuality or conservatism. What good is government at all if this is the end result? Now I know how the French feel felt when the Nazis occupied France! This is not my country anymore. I want the country I was born in back. I want the country I fought for my civil rights in back. I want a country where I cannot only marry my husband, but afford to support both of us. If I have to vote for Donald Trump to get that, then so be it. Nobody else is offering anything better.

[@user-nz9pv1zx2d]

Yes but having been gay, has given me greater empathy for other people, who are marginalized, in this country. And the vast majority of gay men feel this way, that’s why they vote Democrat. Republicans have them us and them attitude towards people who are different, and very little if any empathy for others, until it happens to them. 4:03

[@rockandrolldude22]

It's hard because I actually want to be in the community and help the gay community but when you're Republican you basically get kicked out.

[@JackAShepherd]

Poor Gay Fascists!

[@whuskeywolf0032]

@@JackAShepherd That's the spirit! Hate on those you disagree with and cover it up by calling them fascist without any proof, so brave, so powerful! Lol XD

[@Adam-TheLiftedKing]

@@JackAShepherd dude whats wrong with you… He wants to help the community if the community was willing to let him in maybe he’d become less of a “gay fascist” as a independent gay man I’m sick of this behavior. If someone genuinely wants to help the community but they have different politics than the majority let them. Obviously if they make it into something you dont like say something but you should give people a chance. You are part of the problem here buddy.

[@itsnatemate7697]

@@Adam-TheLiftedKing That doesn’t make sense though? You can’t help the community when you actively support individuals that push hate towards the community and want to push for the ban of same sex marriage and conversion therapy simply because of their bigoted beliefs

[@Kornknealious]

Because the gay "community" doesn't want help. They want to bitch, nag, complain and blame. When they find out things are actually okay, they make stuff up to scream and shout about;

[@blu-jay599]

I guess its easier to be gay and Republican in states that have protections for lgbtq people (California & New Mexico). Here in Idaho if I wanted to work in a town other than the state capital I could lose my job because I'm gay. They have privileges that many lgbtq people in conservative areas don't have. Correction as others have stated in 2020 the supreme courts decided it was unconstitutional to fire someone for being gay, a fact I forgot but there are still many rights like adoption and trans rights that red states deny to this day.

[@FreeMissions]

Right. Like most conservatives, they only care about things that matter to them directly. Doesn't impact them? Then it doesn't matter.

[@ziggymo88]

Not true anymore due to the SCOTUS ruling, but I understand your sentiments completely.

[@BluePlanet1]

that’s not true anymore, the Supreme Court ruled that employers can’t discriminate on the basis of sexuality.

[@anticorncob6]

Wait, there are laws protecting LGBT employment for the state capital and nowhere else? (Or so was the case before that SCOTUS ruling?)

[@blu-jay599]

@@anticorncob6 That was the case before the ruling, only federal law protects lgbtq people outside of the capitol here in Idaho. Most lgbtq protections in red states comes from federal statues not state ones.

[@Dzmcgee]

“See when you do clownery, the clown comes back to bite” -Monique

[@tbecker97204]

Dillon, stop making up words. "Clownery" is NOT a word, and no, it's not cute to do that. "Stupid/ignorant" would have been a better choice, quoting someone or not.

[@blu-jay599]

@@tbecker97204 You know who made up words, William Shakespeare. Language is a living evolving part of culture. It is not static, stop trying to hold it back because you don't like change.

[@razor191919]

@@blu-jay599 Stop being a Bashiawia you bigot.

[@chad9015]

Such an open-minded statement

[@hereticalheretic5569]

@@blu-jay599 no it’s called be illiterate lol

[@blu-jay599]

(3:58) "there are some bad apples I want to say when it comes to like abortion and trans rights and stuff like that but" it doesn't directly affect me so I can look past it.

[@chch2106]

I know a coworker whose baby was born at 21 weeks and everyone was praying for her survival in the ICU because the survival rate was like 1%, and she survived. Some places allow abortion to at 36 weeks (almost 100 survival rate if induced birth at 36 weeks), but you don't hear them cry or see them inside the stomach so we cant put ourselves in their shoes or see them as human.

[@chch2106]

If you had been pregnant by choice, or have a wife who is pregnant and you worry for the health and safety of the baby, you would understand. My wife's friend's baby stopped breathing at 10weeks last Friday and she had been crying nonstop since then. I'm not saying make abortion illegal, and pro choice supporters have legitimate reasons, but at the same time they say babies inside the womb are not human or just a cluster of cells.

[@chch2106]

And I done a lot of research on this and the most important period of a child's development is when they are in the womb. Stress, unhealthy foods, and alcohol/caffeine can cause mental health problems or learning problems later on. So many people don't know this and decides to be a parent only after their child is born.

[@chch2106]

Encouraging pregnant women to see through the pregnancy is very left wing in my opinion because it protects the most vulnerable and the ones with the least voice.

[@blu-jay599]

@@chch2106 How about we leave the choice up to women. In each legislative body, a committee of elected women and other person's who's bodies would be directly affected by the bill should have to approve it prior to a floor vote. All parties would have a say but only the legislators that a would be directly affected by the bill not those who don't have a understanding of the consequences. Same for bill directly targeting other groups of interest: lgbtq, black, religious, etc.

[@leveltwotrading9657]

Well it is September 2022, i hope the guy that said that Gay marriage and rights are settled law. he may want to put on the TV right about now and see what happened to abortion rights. he is the poster child for people that vote against their own interest SMH

[@Kornknealious]

gay marriage is not that big of an issue.. Gays who actually want to get married in the US is like .00000001% of the population. Even then, there are other ways to get "married:...but no,the gay alpahbet Nazi brigade has to scream and shout... Honestly, no one cares when you consistently scream and shout. and you honestly have literally nothing to scream and shout about.

[@burntfrootloop4073]

@@Kornknealious You seem like you care a lot, you're commenting on almost every single comment. LOL stay mad

[@jeffjacobson59]

Who I sleep with is nobody’s business. It is the least important thing about my identity. What I do in my bedroom is MY business!!!!

[@Kornknealious]

Jeff; please try to keep it in your bedroom then. We're sick and tired of you having sex in the streets.

[@shawnsg]

I can't wrap my head around the idea of a conservative LGBTQ person. For the average American sure, I can see how they could sway between the two. But for LGBTQ the conservative party doesn't want them. It's like showing up to a party you weren't invited to and being asked to leave but still talking about how awesome the party thrower is. Like what. Texas is the most obvious example. The Texas GOP platform that said homosexuality is an *abnormal lifestyle choice.* They wouldn't let the Log Cabin Republicans have a booth at their convention. The Texas Supreme court ruled a while back that spouses weren't eligible for spousal benefits even if they were married. There's no protections for housing discrimination. They refuse to repeal the sodomy law. That doesn't even touch on the rhetoric they spew or the attacks on trans people.

[@xeganxerxes4319]

I’m a same-sex attracted man, not an lgbtq person. That is not self-hatred. It is self- embracement of an identity that is rejected but eh so-called lgbtq plus community as transphobic. I date biological males. Gay men with vaginas? Gay men who are pregnant? Lesbians with lenses? Fuck that heterosexual rape culture.

[@muzzcovw7674]

Sorry, but I've had more acceptance from conservative friends and family than many of the gay community over the years. It was really eye-opening when about 10 years ago I was dating somebody from a different race than myself. The only people that ever mentioned it and sometimes pretty nastily talked about it were others in the gay community. I've run into far more racism personally in the community then I have from average everyday people that I know

[@jimgould2541]

how could any gay person support "the orange malignancy" ?

[@FreeMissions]

Settled? Keep voting that way Holmes. Nothing is ever settled.

[@RSmith6948]

Yes, the way abortion rights was "settled" and now Roe is almost certainly going to be overturned.

[@donovanasmr9546]

@@RSmith6948 This comment aged very well in light of the leaked SCOTUS decision draft.

[@itsmealex8959]

I'm from a really conservative area. Gay marriage is not a settled issue.

[@brainstormsai]

“🥺I’m invisible, powerless! Like a gay republican.” -🪲🧃

[@LadyPinkster]

Is this the Nestor that is with Matt Gaetz?

[@Derrickthepeng]

As a true egalitarian, I recognize being gay doesn't stop you from having shitty takes. Looking at you, Dave.

[@Derrickthepeng]

@stefano king Actually yes, I do think people who disagree with me are wrong... That's kind of the point of having beliefs. So what, having beliefs makes me a fascist?

[@Derrickthepeng]

​@stefano king Woah slow down, your rambling is incoherent. I think we should all vote Democratic regardless of sexual orientation, race, gender, religion. You're the one playing identity politics.

[@rosspatterson1233]

@@Derrickthepeng you know what as a gay conservative, I respect this.

[@dannyarcher6370]

As an egalitarian, I recognise that you're leftist thanks to your ad hominem attack.

[@batrachian149]

@@dannyarcher6370 seething

[@JKDC97]

The gay latino referring to his sexuality as a “lifestyle” and saying that he’s a Republican because he works hard… checks out lmao

[@nicebluejay]

typical judgey comment

[@DontCountToday]

@@nicebluejay How is his comment judgey? Sexuality is not a lifestyle and hard work is not partisan.

[@fraac]

@@DontCountToday sexuality is a lifestyle for many. there's nothing wrong with that

[@zlosliwa_menda]

@@DontCountToday It's judgmental, because it dismisses him simply for having a different opinion. And saying "sexuality is a lifestyle" is about as valid as saying "you're born with your sexuality". Neither of these views are really true or agree with science, as human sexuality is complex, there are many factors involved, including genetic, environmental and those based on personal choice.

[@JKDC97]

@@zlosliwa_menda Referring to being gay as a “lifestyle” is the dismissive way that conservatives refer to homosexuality, as “lifestyles” connote a choice. As if one chooses to be gay. I wholeheartedly disagree with this idea that saying “homosexuality is a lifestyle” and saying “you’re born with your sexuality” are the same thing. Listen next time to the context in which someone refers to homosexuality as a lifestyle, it is almost always intended to be dismissive and disparaging of homosexuality as if it is a choice to live one’s life in a certain [negative] way.

[@matthieupeloquin9477]

Why do voters have party affiliations in the US? I understand some wanting to be members of a party - happens here in Canada. But most Canadians are not affiliated to any party. I find it strange that so many Americans (based on my impression) identify as Republican or Democrat, as opposed to conservative or liberal, for example (understanding that they are not synonymous). It’s sort of like the parties are sports teams and they are their loyal and enthusiastic fans. Why is party affiliation core or even part of anyones identity? I don’t understand. Edit: I suppose I do understand (it appeals to human tribal instincts), but I can’t relate.

[@TheFireGiver]

Some states force you too choose a party so you can only vote in that party's primary. Other states don't, but pollsters will ask anyway. For example I'm not officially part of the Democratic Party as my state has an open primary system, but I would say I was a Democrat if anyone asked because I almost always vote Democratic. Iirc Canada doesn't have primaries right? Therefore if you're a member of the Liberal party or whatever that means you're actually a member of an organization as opposed to you just ticking the Liberal party box when you vote.

[@kjgarvin]

I know it may appear to be that simple from the media, but most people don't love the Dems or republican party. I vote Democrat, but I don't like that party and if there was a more left leaning party I would join them.

[@---oy2oy]

But D/R and liberal/conservative ARE functionally synonymous for most Americans. The parties are diametrically opposed to each other’s views on many issues and there is no viable third option. If you are liberal, there is only one party that is likely to consistently represent your views. Same if you are conservative. So D vs. R might all well be liberal vs. conservative, at least in national races.

[@prodigiii712]

To vote in primary.

[@wacawaka1802]

We don’t. People do that to feel special. Almost any democrat calling themselves a democrat is more like me saying I’m appart of the As when I’m just a fan.

[@k2m297]

I think the thing about Trump in politics is that him and the conservative media makes people feel so strongly on issues that they put even personal issues aside because they're so adamant. They may believe enough of the points to buy the caricatures about the other side, and saying things like "I'm a hard worker, therefore, Republican" to those on the outside sound silly or outrageous, but this is a symptom of the experience.

[@nenmaster5218]

Republican-Party is literally radicalizing itself right now, which Part of is be more inclusive... inclusive to Big0ts and hatepreachers and pastors who LITERALLY say to "put them down like s-ck dogs" about the Gay's. Many Republicans are in DENIAL about this well-documented fact.

[@Kornknealious]

K2; your post is nothing but a string of vague ramblings. You described literally nothing

[@MH-YouTube-Controlled]

Is this The Onion?

[@cornbisque]

Pretty stupid to say “come out” as Republican. Just because someone is gay it doesn’t mean we have to be forced to be democrats. That’s their stupid way of thinking.

[@ItsCammy.]

But why tho they are voting for the man that hates us…

[@alishaperry6521]

But it's true. Liberals think because he's gay he should be on their side and get mad when they say they are republican

[@Attmay]

At this point, you have to BE a Gay Republican to earn my respect. *Nell Carter is QUEEN!*

[@MrMountainchris]

Correct, you don't need to be a Democrat. But if you are gay and voting Republican, you are voting for your own oppression.

[@machoke666]

My sexual orientation and where I stand politically are two entirely different things and one does not influence the other. Imagine telling a straight white male: "What!? You're a democrat? You should be Republican", but when a gay person or a black person votes republican, then saying that is suddenly alright, it's a double standard

[@kennyt7780]

I disagree. I’m married to my Sam sex partner and Republicans are overwhelming against it to the point where they want to rip my marriage apart. Why do they care? Doesn’t impact them & yet now and historically, the GOP has overwhelmingly been against gay rights

[@JackAShepherd]

Dems offer civil rights. Republicans curtail civil rights. So that's why you'd expect LGBTQ people to vote for, ya know, the people who aren't discriminating against you

[@andrewa1772]

The reason it’s a big deal is conservatives normally hate gays lol

[@theonlythingihavetosayis9333]

Except conservatism actively discourages and denounces your sexuality as simply being a "choice" that's immoral. We all know though that sexuality isn't a choice. It essentially is attacking your character

[@burntfrootloop4073]

Your analogy does not make sense because gay people have historically been discriminated against by conservative groups. Many red states would make it illegal if Obergefell vs Hodges was to be repealed.

[@say10..]

7:57 I agree. I'm hetero, atheist, conservative leaning. I think the gay republican community is in a great position to build bridges in a highly polarized political environment.

[@noelwilliams2165]

😂😂😂😂😂 Republicans will never allow that.

[@say10..]

They already allow it.

[@noelwilliams2165]

@@say10.. keep dreaming they want to ban gay marriage!!!!…..stop being Delusional to them that’s Abnormal the only ones who has the lgbtq community back are the Democrats.

[@idonmock4493]

I feel like atheist republican is an oxymoron. The Republican Party literally hates atheists. As an atheist, I don’t understand how any atheist can vote republican. No hate here. I just don’t understand atheist republicans.

[@kennyt7780]

Don’t think so. I live in TX and the TX GOP state convention has refused the gay Log Republican group a seat at the convention every single year for the past 30 years. Not surprised

[@antisocialmoth]

I can't vote Republican, ever, even though I despise the far left. The GOP today is just the flip side of the far left. I'm sticking to moderates.

[@frqntplatypus7968]

Just watched an American Dad episode where the Log Cabin Republicans changed Stan’s mind about gay conservatives. Wow, how badly did that episode age in todays political climate. Conservatives secretly hate the lgbt community, as soon as it’s beneficial they will abandon them. Oh wait they already did 🤔.

[@Snifferous]

I am gay and have conservative views. While I don't love either side politically (I am more Libertarian), I prefer the right over the left. The left is more accepting of ideas, but they often have a double standard when you have a varying opinion that does not align with their views. The right is plain and simple, saying what they believe. While the right has issues of their own, such as not often agreeing with being not-straight, the right is a much better and more logic-based side than the left.

[@Semelem]

Just another affirmation that we’re RIPE for a new party

[@matthewdrews]

Or maybe re-evaluate the importance of party affiliation altogether.

[@Derrickthepeng]

Andrew Yang has entered the chat “Not Left or Right but forward!” 🤮

[@jaredt.murphy8257]

Amen. It's inevetable. I only hope it happens before Amazon replaces our government.

[@toneyingram732]

Many are

[@pfh777]

An interesting conversation and example what is happening today. People have different priorities, the social issues of some gay people are not their top priority. This man’s priorities are financial over social. The challenge today is the conflict between what today’s political parties actually deliver vs what they say. Today’s Republican Party doesn’t even really support their financial goals either. It also sounds like they identify with yesterday’s definition of the Republican Party vs today’s party. The same is true for the Democratic Party.

[@shawnsg]

I think what you're saying kind of encapsulates the issue that somehow by choosing Democrats you are losing out on the financial side. Historically the economy performs as well or better under Democrats than Republicans.

[@damnitsmelol]

It's really just not about thinking deeper and critically. Huh.

[@lindseyreese1124]

Yes. Likely hard for some to comprehend. Most people like others to stay in the political boxes they want them in. Blacks =Democrat etc. Stereotyping is so much easier than analysis.

[@dayviduh]

Did the interviewer tell them about the anti-gay policies that Republicans passed? That guy said most republicans are cool with it but their president and law makers pass laws making it harder to be gay. I wish you guys would’ve confronted them on that

[@Kornknealious]

show me one single "Anti gay" policy in America today.. just one.. . I'll wait

[@kool2btrue]

@@Kornknealious Really? The "Don't Say Gay" Bill in Florida. You know the bill that legally requires educators to out their students to parents.

[@Kornknealious]

@@kool2btrue bwhahaha.. please read the whole law. Tell me where it says any of those things

[@kool2btrue]

@@Kornknealious Ah I see your whole shtick is to deny and ask for more info.

[@Kornknealious]

@@kool2btrue There is literally nothing for me to deny as there is not one "dont' say gay" law out there . It is you who are denying reality.

[@mfallon130]

I recently left the Democratic Party and switched to “non-affiliated”. At Middle age, I’m much more attracted to conservative men now. People forget that Trump was a Democrat for 9 years before he switched. His problem is that he is a malignant narcissist for whom party affiliation means relatively little. The Republican Party should never have hitched their wagon to him. On top of that, any president or political analyst will tell you that party label means actually relatively little politically when you are running for PUSA because at the executive level you have to try and work with both parties to get ANYTHING passed 🙄 so whichever party you run with just has to support you from behind with (dot..dot…dot) TONS OF MONEY (this is America after all🙄). I would argue that neither party is particularly great for LGBT issues, but the Democratic Party has a better image machine for the LGBT community…THATS basically it. People act like there are not LGBT democrats that feel jilted by their party…GIMME A BREAK 🙄…I was in a Gay LTR for 20 years and never married my partner after discussing it many times…He could not stop deficit spending (like a Republican even though he was a Democrat😂🤬) I wasn’t going to marry his debt or let him marry mine (I got out of my debt tho)…marrying a spendthrift was not a vow I was willing to take. That’s kinda why “gay marriage” on the “social aspect” is not really a talking point for many true conservatives. If you are financially independent then that union should be double the strength socially and financially, but that isn’t always the case when two people get married whether they are gay or not. Democrats react harshly to Republican Narcissistic projections which is the extreme wing of the party…that is out of hand. No one will disagree that both parties have ignorant narcissists that project stupidly. That is just American politics for headlines….we live in an age of outrageous narcissism, mainly amplified by social media. Even I am contributor AND victim of it. Get over it. Get under it. Move to the side of it. That’s it.

[@joandarc441]

Why not bother Politics then both sides are just clowns 🤡

[@DarkFlareGC]

These videos are so fascinating. Hearing from these small groups of people you wouldn't expect to exist and their struggles to be heard.

[@glenncurry3041]

Especially when they support the party that hates them and tries to make their lifestyles illegal!

[@glenncurry3041]

@stefano king By definition a Liberal would not be homophonic. But somehow this confuses you? Projection most likely!

[@glenncurry3041]

@stefano king So you are saying some people only pretend to be liberals and only pretend to not be homophobic so they can run as a Democrat because if they openly admitted hating gays you could only run as a Republican? Interesting!

[@brockbaby]

Except conservative gays are NOT a small group. The media and culture have marginalized us with violence and propaganda.

[@glenncurry3041]

@@brockbaby Nearly nine million LGBT adults wer registered and eligible to vote in the 2020 general election, only 15% are registered Republican's! Less than 1/5 of 1% of the US pop. YES you ARE a small group! And the cognitive dissonance pain must be incredible!

[@dougn2350]

Had a gay friend who turned to trumpism. When he told me he was attending a trump rally I asked if he would proudly wear a rainbow badge. He said "hell no, I don't want to get killed". Hmmmm.

[@itsmeandrea138]

Sad, but 60% of republicans said they would vote for a gay candidate. It's a big step forward.

[@Kornknealious]

I' went to a Trump rally.. I wore a rainbow hat.. Everyone thanked me for showing up. I think you're lying about the rainbow pin.

[@dougn2350]

@@itsmeandrea138 ... no, that was his reply. Im assuming you're homosexual. Are you happy with all rhese anti gay laws Republicans are passing in red states?

[@dougn2350]

@@Kornknealious ... the only reason they thanked you is because they wanted another vote to help get more Republicans elected to pass more anti human rights legislation.

[@dougn2350]

@@itsmeandrea138... as long as it was a self hating candidate. Like Dave Rubin.

[@chch2106]

I'm from Canada and its so odd to me that there is no center party in the USA. Watching the political divide is like watching my parents fight.

[@Gwyrddu]

I mean there is a center party in the US though, it's called the Democratic party. It only doesn't seem that way because the GOP have moved the overton window so far to the right.

[@jovanicamarena2637]

@@Gwyrddu I'd disagree with that. According to pew research out of the democratic and republican party the democratic party has moved more left than the republican moving more right. So statistically speaking the democratic party has become more radical then the right. But there are differences between Republicans and democrats vs conservatives and liberals. I think people use them interchangeably but I truly believe there is a difference

[@Gwyrddu]

@@jovanicamarena2637 So Pew Research, like people's opinion on whether the parties have moved left or right? Because I think this is an example where polling isn't going to tell you anything about where the parties stand, only people's opinion on where they stand. No, the only way to get a real understanding where the parties stand is to look at the platforms, issues and legislation. And from that perspective Democrats hardly have moved at all (except on some social issues like gay marriage). Even things like M4A which Biden is opposed to and has no chance of getting anywhere in congress, Bill Clinton was trying to pass something similar in the 90's. There are some people on left who may deserve the title of radical, but it's just inaccurate to that apply that title to the Democratic party. There is a good reason why Bernie Sanders is technically an independent and not part of the Democratic establishment.

[@marcusplowman170]

Who’s the centre party In Canada? NDP? 😂

[@imreallyagoat]

There is

[@cookiedough7303]

I love this ❤️

[@markwarden7719]

5:14 These facts - Republican candidates support policies that hurt LGBTQ - are enough for many LGBTQ people to be so staunchly Democrat. 5:47 This is a bad argument and a poor strategy at best. Endorsements and silence do not change parties. Supporting Gay friendly Republican candidates or even running would, but we never see that because its a waste of money to run as a LGBTQ Republican (you won't even win your primary). I think Republican LGBTQ supporters do have radically different values and care about different issues.

[@wacawaka1802]

“Facts” lol those aren’t facts, those are biased.

[@whuskeywolf0032]

I don't vote based on sexuality, if there's a gay friendly republican running that doesn't mean I'd automatically vote for him if his policies are bad. As of right now I don't approve of much with what the democratic party is doing and am against them until they can put someone with common sense up there.

[@Adam-TheLiftedKing]

@@whuskeywolf0032 I agree I’m open to voting for a democrat still but unless it’s a good option I’d vote Republican in all likelihood

[@whuskeywolf0032]

@@Adam-TheLiftedKing 100% agreed

[@Kornknealious]

nope

[@unpaintedcanvas]

Yeah as a queer person whose rights are constantly under threat of attack by my state government (and somewhat lately I have lost some rights), I'd need my blinders to be on full-stop to be Republican.

[@razor191919]

Source?

[@Kornknealious]

Show me the EXACT law that has taken away any of your rights. Oh wait.. you can't because they don't exist

[@Kornknealious]

Not one of our rights are under threat of being removed.. Nor are you under threat of being attacked. Please stop lying

[@burntfrootloop4073]

@@Kornknealious TN is about to pass a law banning drag and forcing trans youth to detransition. Several other red states are in the process of doing the same. Educate yourself before you say we are lying. Florida passed the "don't say gay bill", and banned Black AP classes because they talked about queer people. It's happening.

[@Kornknealious]

@@burntfrootloop4073 none of what you just posted is true.

[@shaneclark202]

BYE HUSS! LOL BLESS YOUR LIL"HEART>>>=)

[@razor191919]

Remember when Trump was the first president to ever run in favor of gay marriage before getting in office?

[@jacobm8049]

Let’s not forget he opposed the Supreme Court decision that made it illegal under the civil rights act of 1965 to fire someone for their sexual orientation. Also, the Trans ban he enacted on trans service members (President bone spurs). He can say himself he’s pro LGBTQ+ but his MANY actions are what we should look at.

[@razor191919]

@@jacobm8049 his many actions being the banning of individuals from utilizing tax payer dollars intended to fund the protections of it's citizens from foreign adversaries, because instead it would be going towards roughly a year of paid time off for surgery and hundreds of thousands of dollars of hormones therapy for a life time coupled with a substantially lower physical capacity for the FtM military personnel. I for one am okay with trans individuals not being allowed in the military for the same reason we do not allow those with other healthcare complications into the military. As far as his opinion on the supreme court, do you have his quote on the matter?

[@jacobm8049]

@@razor191919 “They’ve ruled. I’ve read the decision, and some people were surprised, but they’ve ruled and we live with that decision. That’s what it’s all about. We live with the decision of the Supreme Court. Very powerful.. Very powerful decision actually, but they have so ruled.” m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHOqlptup89knq8

[@josephimperatrice5552]

It's all talk because when Donald Trump was president he had a horrible track record on LGBTQ civil liberties.

[@elgrigorio1]

Just to clear things up,it was the libertarian party who endorsed gay rights as early as 1971, NOT the republican or the democratic parties. I'm just pointing it out.

[@tbecker97204]

They're called *Log Cabin Republicans* , just FYI.

[@dannyarcher6370]

Why?

[@cornbisque]

@@dannyarcher6370 cause we like logs

[@AngerFueld]

@@cornbisque 🤔 what do you mean? For fire?

[@RealDexterMidnight]

I thank I'm a log cabin Republican

[@whuskeywolf0032]

I love that

[@jakeb3849]

Lol this guy Nestor seems impressively unempatheic.

[@ernestolivas4728]

you could not have grown up poor and brown and be able to say that.

[@jakeb3849]

@@ernestolivas4728 Hm, I could only guess that other people who grew up poor and brown might agree with me. -Had to rely on himself growing, so government programs that assist poor families are bad? What else could that be but unempathetic?

[@juanvillalvazo1695]

@@jakeb3849 I went to undergrad with him, he isn’t empathetic. I mostly got the vibe that he was a narcissist. I also later found out he had been in several videos of a certain persuasion let’s say. It just seems like the party he supports is diametrically opposed to how he actually lives his life, and feeds off the attention he gets from being a contrarian. As a gay Latino myself I feel pretty entitled to say that.

[@bluBlaq33]

He takes pride in stepping on his own if he has to have what he rightfully “deserves” weak minded and spineless.

[@bluBlaq33]

@@juanvillalvazo1695 notice he didn’t reply lmao

[@grahamimal8336]

Hearing this guys admit that he’s the product of immigration and then turn around and say immigrants are a threat is a great example of the hypocrisy of being a republican and not being Caucasian

[@merrymachiavelli2041]

Everyone in the US (except for Native Americans, and even there most are of mixed descent) are products of immigration. I don't see how it's more hypocritical to be a 3rd generation Irish-American who is opposed to immigration than to be a 2nd generation Hispanic-American opposed to immigration.

[@theuglykwan]

Caucasians are the descendants of immigrants too. Why is it other minorities cannot follow this trajectory without being hypocrites?

[@eashley109]

@@theuglykwan You're right, but in a different way. The Caucasians are hypocrites as well

[@kjgarvin]

@@merrymachiavelli2041 Black people were brought here as property. That's not the same as immigration.

[@Derrickthepeng]

The only way to be a non-hypocritical Republican is to be rich. Republicans help no other demographic meaningfully, not even cis straight Aryan men.

[@chboy80]

Interesting that these 2 guys interviewed are from blue states

[@fahfahfred]

It's easy (and to a certain extent helpful) to point out inconsistencies and blindspots in others but it's also probably important to remember that everyone has them. Or I'm just a centrist hack 🤷

[@terdragontra8900]

Don't be afraid to take a stand, but also _never_ believe you are a "centrist hack" for believing that things are complicated. Nearly everything is more complicated than we like to think.

[@mfallon130]

I’m a centrist hack right there with you.

[@blake350z]

How about todays vote codifying gay marriage? 🤣

[@dougn2350]

This channel is a subsidiary of pragerU

[@Kornknealious]

Which is a good thing.

[@stephencerny4856]

I've been called a Nazi and a turncoat for being a gay Republican. I have supported both parties. My conservative side came from my mom and dad. As an older guy now is I'm free to be myself. I believe in personal responsibility and love of country. Frankly both parties are failing us in many ways.

[@WHEELERJM]

You should listen to Unmentionable Podcast. The host is a gay man and pretty centrist/libertarian.

[@Dondonden1234]

Well, I bet this isn't aging well for him now.

[@KnowoneHFRC]

It's weird watching folks support causes which don't support them and even actively work against them.

[@Kornknealious]

nope

[@KnowoneHFRC]

Yup

[@Kornknealious]

@@KnowoneHFRC got evidence? .. oh wait. there is none to back your silly claim. there never is

[@KnowoneHFRC]

@@Kornknealious um ok. Perhaps come here to my hometown which is filled with bible banging GOP ers who abandon their own children for being gay. Speak to some of the local representatives from inside out youth services. Perhaps attend some of our loving Evangelical churches which will tell you that you are going to hell for your lifestyle. These are not a pack of happy liberals telling you such things. Furthermore who are you talking to? Do we know each other? There is plenty of evidence to back my claim If you don't close your eyes to it. PS... And in no way is this some sort of advocation for the Democrats either as in many instances they will pretend to love you to your face and hate you when you turn around.

[@robmiles2780]

So is the Nestor guy in this video just stupid or does he just force himself not to see the connection between the fact that his mother has conservative views and doesn’t approve of his homosexuality but his father who has liberal views has no problem at all with his homosexuality? He calls it “interesting”, and I would agree it is *very* interesting that he’s not able to connect the dots between conservatism and homophobia, or that he does make that connection and doesn’t care because I guess low taxes or something are more important!

[@seto749]

We should be in both parties, but the strategy for making the R more gay-friendly could use an overhaul.

[@glenncurry3041]

So the solution is for the Republican Party to stop being the Republican Party and start supporting the liberal agenda just like the Democrats? SAD!

[@seto749]

@@glenncurry3041 Not at all. Abd it's not as if the D is perfect either, giving us Pres DOMA-pusher. The solution is for there to be no good reason for gays to fear or dislike any of the major parties; as things stand now, we have plenty of reasons to fear and dislike them all.

[@glenncurry3041]

@@seto749 ah yes the Conservative LIE of the false equivalency! "Pres DOMA-pusher" too ignorant of factual history to remember who forced Obama while VP to publicly accept gay marriage? Or that a REPUBLICAN House and Senate forced the bill in front of Clinton during reelection as a political con job. He signed it dead of night because he objected to the forced Conservative HATE! Only one GOPer voted against it in both houses. All other NO votes were Democrats! And which party fought and finally repealed it? Or which party has pushed DOMA into every state they control! And introduced it constantly at the Federal level. Or which party is famous for their self loathing gays caught soliciting gay sex while passing laws against gays? Let's list each party's specifically gay hate based legislative efforts, limiting bathroom access, partnerships, adoptions, .... with the D side blank and not enough space for the R side!

[@seto749]

@@glenncurry3041 I'm not a conservative; my point is that pushing DOMA ought to have meant automatic disqualification from the nomination of any truly reformed party. The stage managing of the revelation of the Obama conversion was clumsy. I am not by any means giving both parties the same test score, but both scores need improvement.

[@glenncurry3041]

@@seto749 Yes both parties have all kinds of issues they need to change for the betterment of this country and the world. But it is the shear lie of a false equivalency to pretend they are even close to the same. e.g. both sides have gay elected leaders. Democrats acknowledge it and even include running on it. Republicans LIE about it and pass laws against gays as self fladulation ! Democrats call religious freedom the right of everyone to believe or not as they please. Republicans refer to Christian Sharia Law as promoting religious freedom! Obama had his One Big Lie! Trump left with a proven list of over 30,000!

[@anthonyb9451]

Congrats on voting against your own interests

[@tbiggums7707]

Yea try doing this piece in the Bible Belt…

[@kjgarvin]

I'm in the Bible belt and I know and know of a few gay Trump Republicans. Some are bold enough to get on Grindr and have a profile pic standing in front of a Confederate flag.

[@ernestolivas4728]

most gay republicans either live or come from the bible belt. It not bible belt communites that disavow family members, its just bad people wherever they are

[@arsonistchoir2187]

Personally I'm a bi conservative. I hate taxes, think we need the police, think gender=sex. My feeling generally go as long as your noting hurting anyone your fine to do whatever.

[@openmind7418]

Very well said, my thoughts exactly.

[@itsnatemate7697]

Question. Did you take a biology class? Cause if so no professor would tell you gender equals the same thing as sex. It’s two different things. No the “I think we need police” argument doesn’t make sense either? No one wants to take away cops entirely but rather abolish the system that these police fall under.

[@Kornknealious]

@@itsnatemate7697 sorry, but Gender = Sex. I looked it up. please shut up

[@conservativedestroyer4056]

You hate taxes, but taxes are the reason you have roads and public schools and health. But sure ask the poor conservatives in rural areas how cutting taxes are working out for them.

[@Kornknealious]

@@conservativedestroyer4056 nope

[@RotalHenricsson]

You know that scene in the Restaurant At The End Of The Universe where the cow advises Arthur which of it's part he should eat... that's kinda these guys.

[@richardleonardon2192]

Anyone that is not exactly like you is the enemy. What a shame to live that kind of life.

[@scourgeofsnackind]

@@richardleonardon2192 ya i know, republicans intolerance and bigotry is disgusting and shameful.

[@whuskeywolf0032]

@@scourgeofsnackind Same with leftists and the alt right.

[@burntfrootloop4073]

@@richardleonardon2192 Anyone who supports a Party who has historically and still to this day passes legislation against the LGBTQ Community? Yeah, they are our enemy. Notice how we never come after Green Party or Libertarians? It's not about disagreeing, it's about the GOP showing time and time again they will strip LGBTQ rights

[@RealWarnerus]

I find it sad that nowadays it's easier to come out as a gay than a republican or a conservative in general. That's not me saying I'm homophobic or anything, hell I'm a conservative and I can accept the fact that some people are just gay, I get it. But what I don't get is why being a conservative is treated as being something you should be ashamed of nowadays. Just because someone's a conservative, doesn't mean that they're homophobic, racist, fascist, etc. I'm so disappointed that the oppressed have now become the oppressors.

[@RealWarnerus]

@@cassius348 I know no one accused me of being hateful (from what I remember). I meant that I'm afraid of being hateful. Because of this, I'm scared of even hinting at the fact that I'm conservative.

[@giantsr1eva]

⁠@@RealWarnerus Well, people don’t like to be told what to do with their lives and you can’t have low taxes and a massive military and police force. You will bankrupt the country if you do that. It’s a hypocritical philosophy that doesn’t work.

[@tacobowler]

This is a well done video and encourages conversation. Well done journalism.

[@azucenabustos1078]

I'm not alone

[@eggmcmark]

More videos like this, please. Extremely nuanced… not really 538’s thing, but would love to see someone so articulate defending their opposing political views who is as well-versed in the Bible.

[@jakem72]

Clayton Howard had some really interesting insights and thoughts on this - good interviewee

[@rachelthegreat2959]

I'm heterosexual, but I'm black and a Gen z female and people often assume I'm a liberal or a Democrat. It's like it's hard for them to believe that Republicans aren't all heterosexual, white, middle aged, men.

[@makroskonstopolis]

Yep, the mainstream media doesn't want to let the public know we actually exist.

[@grayfae3]

…maybe because republican policies and agenda significantly empower those het, white, old, men, especially at the expense of people like you - and many democrats. you may be on the bottom of their shit list, but you’re still on the list, until the rest of us are gone and there’s no one to stand up for you. i would tell you to enjoy your moments of power-adjacency, but they’re going to be too brief for that. and i can’t even wish you luck, because you have aligned yourself with those who target me & my people. so. i hope you find a more positive way, and that you realize that voting for monsters gets more monsters in office, not personal protection from their goals.

[@robertparsons313]

Anthony Kennedy, a Reagan appointee, was the deciding vote for gay marriage. The first president to enter office as openly supportive of gay marriage was a Republican.

[@Tripper111]

Wow, good topic. I feel Gay Republican's Settle for less and are very complicit with their beliefs. Real Sad.

[@toffeenut1336]

Like being unable to write a proper sentence with correct grammar. Real sad.

[@whuskeywolf0032]

Settle for less? I have to choose between a party that a lies to the public on a daily basis and drives inflation through the roof vs a side that has a bias for traditional methods and is a bit questionable when it comes to foreign issues. It's not that hard of a choice for me and me being gay has nothing to do with which sides I'd vote for.

[@Tripper111]

@@whuskeywolf0032 You're Ignorant Billy. You're Evil AF Too.

[@Kornknealious]

how open minded of you..

[@Tripper111]

@@toffeenut1336 Like Evil Predator Trump.

[@joho9815]

The Replicans will try to take away your gay rights buddy

[@failedcomedian8125]

I know a many Muslim republican. You can support a party for many reasons after all there are only 2 parties.

[@glenncurry3041]

If you hate yourself enough you can con yourself into supporting the party that wants you dead! Ya... there's logic for you!

[@glenncurry3041]

@Mshae Latinx has been around for over a decade! But after Conservatives failed to make Dr Seuss a major voting rights issue, after the similar failure of Mr Potato to grab the voting rights top spot, after turning Trump's massive jobs losses into "Jobless Claims Fall to a 52-Year Low" (Barron's), after the DOTARD became the "leader of the Free World" again, ... triggered p1ddlepvppy Conservative desperately drag out .... “latinX”! SAD!

[@orangecayman520]

@@glenncurry3041 i love how you're speaking on behalf of a party you don't represent🤩

[@glenncurry3041]

@@orangecayman520 It's easy when all you do is report their crap!

[@juniorqindes8335]

@@glenncurry3041 why are you a homophobic bigot?

[@dougn2350]

Like a German Jew in 1939 joining the Not See party.

[@jacobm8049]

I think this video is a great reminder that there are LGBTQ+ republicans/conservative people out there. I am a progressive gay man living in Washington, and every once in a while I’ll go on a tinder date with one and it surprises me every time. I think it’s a healthy debate to have, but at the end of the day I do see it as voting against your own interest. The Republican’s track record on LGBTQ+ issues speaks volumes. I think respect and love can go a long ways in helping guide our brothers and sisters in a more loving and accepting direction 🤷🏼‍♂️.

[@LucasFernandez-fk8se]

It’s not voting against our interests, republicans are increasingly less homophobic (good) and we have other interests than being gay. We care about the economy, taxes, national security, religion, wokeness etc

[@AM-ti2yg]

@@LucasFernandez-fk8se so that don't say gay bill in Florida was not homophoic?

[@kxndyyy]

@@AM-ti2yg im bi, I dont really have an issue with not talking ab lgbtq stuff to third graders lmao

[@jacbrito]

I'm gay but to me life is way more than my sexuality. The left only uses minorites as puppets. I want capitalism, free market, low taxes, right to self defense, all things the left is against.

[@TheOscar401]

@@AM-ti2yg its not actually called that and nowhere in the bill doesnt it even say the word gay

[@mousermind]

To come out as gay is extremely difficult. To come out as willfully ignorant must be even more so.

[@toffeenut1336]

Tell us, what’s it like?

[@Kornknealious]

yes, you are willfully ignorant. Glad you felt comfortable to come out as such

[@CreeseDF]

mmm gotcha. says the person spewing hate on a youtube comment section. who's ignorant again?

[@tomhaywood8619]

Donald Trump 2024!

[@jiraiyafo]

To be fair alot of people didnt understand HIV virus back then in the 80s

[@TrentSLucas]

Remember when Joe Biden was on stage with Elton John and He told Elton that he was responsible for the HIV outbreak in the 1980s...lol.

[@chemicalfrankie1030]

identity politics is so, so stupid, racist and bigoted. basically you should think in a certain way because of the colour of your skin or you sexual preferences. problem is that you did not chose them! so you are giving up THINKING just to align with what 'society' tells you should think...

[@dude8462]

If Democrats would just talk about economic issues they would be able to get these voters. Hammer Republicans on abortion, go after corporations, and empower the working class are the best ways for them to win

[@stephenbeck8209]

As a very political gay man who left the Republican part over 45 years ago, I'm unsure why such superficial "reporting" is hosted by 538. I have long been a fan of 538, because it's a reliable source of quantitative political analysis, arguably one of the best sources available to non-professionals. This type of puffy clickbait is available from countless other places, many of which do a far better job. (It's becoming difficult to keep 538 on my essential subscriptions list.)

[@ernestolivas4728]

if you want 538 to echo your views, maybe you are indeed in the wrong place. Many people, those affected, think the piece is moving and personal

[@LarsLearns]

It is always fun to see people voting against their own interests

[@HRussock]

Bingo ^^^

[@NotANameist]

Arrogant statement. Their interests are what they decide, not what you decide.

[@jektonoporkins5025]

Indeed, like rich Democrats voting to increase their own taxes. Or do they not count?

[@toffeenut1336]

To you.

[@Kornknealious]

yes, it would be funny but people keep voting Demcorats in who destroy our lives.

[@thehighcommunity247]

This is so cool to see man. They just assume that he is a loser woke hater, but he is brave for standing on his morals. The other ones in the community probably gave him so much b.s. for his choice and casted him to the side. They are ruthless like that.

[@TKevinBlanc]

I still can't figure out what being Republican (gay or otherwise) has to do with being Republican. I'm so dissapointed with the decline of the party.

[@nenmaster5218]

The Telltale Atheist documents said Decline amazingly well and offers Solutions.

[@waydewilson4457]

Republicans are mostly Christian evangelicals. They do not like lgbtq community. Red states like Texas are creating laws to criminalize parents for supporting their children’s gender preference. You do not see this with blue states. If not for federal court rulings red states would definitely take away gay marriage rights and the recognition there of. Now that there are conservative majority in the Supreme Court we will see what becomes of the LGBTQ rights. The ideology of Republican Party goes against the self interest of homosexuals. I can’t name a red state that have created laws to protect the LGBTQ except blue states.

[@noelwilliams2165]

Because Republicans don’t believe in gay marriage They Like keeping things how it used to be having that into the party is not being a Conservative… they Also have Christian values that’s not Acceptable to them in the Bible even trump was making fun of Pete buttigieg a man who Served in the US Marines and went to Iraq.

[@scourgeofsnackind]

republicans are christian fundamentalist party and are fundamentally opposed to homosexuality on a religious basis that they want to legislate into existence. they hate america, they hate a secular country.

[@aaronjones4465]

I hear no reasons just talking points everyone repeats

[@scourgeofsnackind]

exactly, its just a unicultural bigoted echo chamber on the right.

[@chrisshearer4208]

Who cares.

[@conductingintomfoolery9163]

Why I’m not a republicans

[@toffeenut1336]

Proper spelling?

[@CreeseDF]

wow, I'm convinced!

[@davidmartinez2407]

Eww

[@CreeseDF]

what! did you see yourself? oh god david i'm so sorry

[@KelpShake98]

Gay Latino and Republican omfg pick a struggle 😭

[@benawesomebw1197]

You do realize a good chunk of Latinos vote Republican right? Like, majority of Cuban Americans.

[@dannyboy020]

Don’t republicans not like gay men tho?

[@burntfrootloop4073]

Yes, that's why the majority of gay men can't stand conservative gays like these.

[@cameroncampbell6635]

Thank you for showing this side of the LGB community. It’s nice to hear voices from other gay Republicans. Being seen as a “ traitor,” to the gay community cause, your pro life and want low taxes is really a discrimination Faced by gay Republicans that people don’t understand.

[@Zucchinna]

you meant LGBT

[@zebruh2794]

@@Zucchinna He is talking about sexualities. Not genders.

[@Zucchinna]

@@zebruh2794 LGBTQA isn't just about sexuality, it's about queerness in general

[@paolom.4646]

@@Zucchinna 🤦 everything after the b is a cult, T is 50/50... notice how the people who use "queer", cis or whatever the trend now is all have the same mentality/personality?.... like, you won't find a they/them, 2 spirited conservative. And "queer" can literally mean anything, it's a straight girl with a buzzcut for all i know...

[@wacawaka1802]

@@Zucchinna no, they don’t. Also did you just call us weird for being into our own sex? Cause you know the word queer means weird right?

[@waydewilson4457]

Imagine the look in these guys faces when Roe v Wade is overturned and gay marriage is next.

[@hunghung79]

You are saying obergefell v hodges should stay? Where in the constitution is that? Also, the guy in the video literally said all he cared about was certain rights like access to healthcare, and not redefining the definition of marrige.

[@waydewilson4457]

@@hunghung79 yes. It’s in the same place you find sexual freedom in the constitution. He is saying that bc right now bc he is enjoying the liberty of gay marriage being accepted just like how women didn’t think abortion would be taken away and were comfortable.

[@hunghung79]

@@waydewilson4457 Where do you find sexual freedom or abortion in the constitution?

[@waydewilson4457]

@@hunghung79 Nowhere. Sexual freedom can be criminalized along with abortion since they’re not specifically mentioned. But I’m sure sexually repressed Republican evangelicals will be quick to point out their right to privacy.

[@hunghung79]

@@waydewilson4457 okay, and neither roe v wade or oberfell v hodges have to do with privacy. Oberfell v hodges just redefines marriage to include gay couples. It has nothing to do with who is allowed to have sex with who.

[@wes469]

" 'I never thought leopards would eat MY face!', sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating Faces Party. "

[@Attmay]

Which party supports the mutilation of Gay youth? I’ll give you a hint: it isn’t the GOP.

[@sisterbrothers1677]

Nate Silver fantasizes about a tough, hot gay Republican partner.

[@doszl]

I do too 😍😍

[@bamkablam]

Nestor seems like an intelligent resolute man. He carries himself with stature, dignity, and eloquence. How is it then that he can be so willfully blind and selfish when it comes to trans rights and abortion rights? I could go on and on but I will not. He embodies what is wrong with most Republicans. If it doesn’t directly touch their life, they could not possibly care any less about others lives who are affected if not devastated by their party’s tone deafness.

[@Kornknealious]

because no one is taking anyones rights away. There are no laws that take anyones rights away Please stop pushing this lie

[@kevinarzola4781]

Hurts to watch. Voting for the very people that hate them

[@zebruh2794]

LGBT community: You can't be republican and gay at the same time. THEN YOU ARE NOT GAY! WHY!! You are straight cuz of your political view! Some dude that never got hate or bullied from the LGBT community: Hurts to watch. Voting for the very people that hate them.

[@kevinarzola4781]

@@zebruh2794 what are you talking about? Did you not watch the video? Majority Report just did a story on a republican state senate calling their own gay coworker disgusting lmao

[@zebruh2794]

@@kevinarzola4781 Yes, I did! What I’m talking about is you being hurt over because they believe in some different than you do. Like I agree with them on some point but disagree with about not wanting the same sex marriage. I believe that same sex marriage should be legal. Dude, I don’t care that republican states thinking that I’m disgusting, I got called disgusting by my community just because I’m pro-life. LGBT Community is toxic and you are denying that! I don’t feel safe in LGBT community, knowing I could get beaten up by my kind of people because I don’t believe that what other LGBT people believe!

[@kevinarzola4781]

@@zebruh2794 I think you have some inner working you need to sort out. The Republican base itself doesn’t “believe” in anything. They believe in themselves and what benefits their own pockets personally, as in, not other voters that are republicans. Some republicans believe in big government, others in small. Some are actual conservatives, a lot are debt increasers. Some are peaceful, many are warhawks. The GOP is the only party that believes in what the highest bidder tells them to believe in

[@zebruh2794]

@@kevinarzola4781 "The Republican base itself doesn’t “believe” in anything. They believe in themselves and what benefits their own pockets personally" so dose democrats!

[@rosspatterson1233]

Being a gay conservative it’s sad to see some of these comments. Anyone want to understand more about us, I’d be happy to answer questions

[@tavishnundoo6002]

What cause most lgbt conservative to choose this path?

[@rosspatterson1233]

@@tavishnundoo6002 most of us were conservatives before we knew we were gay. I’ve always been right leaning, but when it comes to social issues most (especially the young) conservatives are very libertarian. So they never thought being gay was wrong, and the state should have no business in people’s day to day life as long as they don’t commit crime. So when we realise we are gay, there isn’t really a huge political shift. I as well as most other gay conservatives fit into this category

[@sadieesabell3934]

Why be apart of a party that disagrees with you being gay? Majority of republicans hard Christians that believe that homosexuals are going to hell. We see this with Dave Rubin. Many also believe you shouldn’t have any rights as an American.

[@rosspatterson1233]

@@sadieesabell3934 I’m not a Christian so I don’t care. There are a lot of sub groups within the Republican Party, evangelicals being 1. Republican can mean more things than you think

[@dustinreinhardt8231]

I'm bi in the closet but I'm definitely more libertarian

[@analogtvxperience3043]

The guy in the green jacket needs to volunteer for conversion therapy and don't stop sessions until it is a complete success.

[@RichardLeo-mf3zb]

Your elitist and condescending mindset is not refreshing at all. It has become so stale and cliche.

[@klomba45]

California is need of republicans on the state legislature. We need to have actual debates to meet half way. I’m not a republican but I can see and feel the effects of just having democrats in power in California. We are heavenly taxed and rent and food is expensive.

[@MultiCougar66]

We are just normal men with conservative views. We're quietly playing pool, looking up at the TV over beers. How we vote has nothing to do with who we date. But we want to connect. Let's put politics aside and celebrate each other.

[@OldGayGamer]

As an HIV+ gay man, I can tell you it's been hard to come out as gay, and hard to disclose my HIV status. I've faced bigotry over both. But as a gay man who isn't a leftist, the bigotry I've faced has been WAY worse. I've had to live in a whole new closet just to have gay friends. They pat themselves on the back as being tolerant and valuing diversity, but leftists are probably the most INtolerant, bigoted people I've had to deal with. The moment they find out that I question any of the leftist narrative, I'm labeled a nazi and met with such incredible hatred. Republicans and conservatives have demonstrated way more tolerance and acceptance of me than leftists do.

[@23220jackson]

Well, having compassion for your health status is easy and understandable. When you support a party who actively work against the rights of same sex couples, women and non-christians, it is hard to make sense of your thinking.

[@OldGayGamer]

@@23220jackson If that was true, then yes it would be hard to understand.

[@Nemo_Anom]

You shot yourself in the foot and now you're blaming other people for it. How's that for personal responsibility?

[@23220jackson]

@@OldGayGamer What isn't true?

[@Kornknealious]

J Steiner! Preach it, Brother!

[@disasterarea9341]

just because you're gay doesn't mean you can't be a terrible person with hatred in their heart ;D

[@toffeenut1336]

Yeah just look at Californians.

[@disasterarea9341]

@Liam McCullars cool have fun in a party that wont even let the gay republican group (log cabin republicans) into their political conventions in the biggest republican-voting state in the nation lmao they really like u guys. so much.

[@disasterarea9341]

@Liam McCullars i dont have time to waste arguing with idiots sorry

[@Kornknealious]

yet, here you are, spewing hate, Disaster Area

[@ccederlo]

So interesting. The inconsistencies in their statements are mind boggling. They reap the benefits of the progressive push for lgbt+ rights while supporting those who want to tear them down. I guess the gay issues don't seem as relevant to them as the other political issues even though their opportunities would be and are more limited without the protections they already receive. So wild!

[@lautaroaguilar9584]

Im the same Néstor!! It’s very hard. I’m a gay Latino Republican and it’s difficult.

[@adilivni8688]

I am bisexual but i feel i am republican and a little bit alone

[@raymarsh4620]

They said that I was only trying to be fashionable when I came out years ago. I have never desired a partner, and never had any sex with men that much, so maybe they were right. I like Trump.

[@marciagrant9976]

I smell bullshit...