What it's like riding a shortboard with giant wheels!

I performed a range test on the Exway Wave electric skateboard with 105mm Cloudwheels (aka Cloudwheel Discovery 105D). Compared to the stock wheels, the Cloudwheels are bigger, harder, and have a rounded contact patch. Guess how it went!
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Table of contents
00:00 Let's do this! Urrgh!
03:26 Don't hug me.
05:14 Heh. Neat.
07:04 TLDW
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[@DanielKwan]

Could you tell that 80% of this video was edited by someone else? That's why there are shots of my face in slow motion LOL... I think he did great! With someone helping me edit, I should be able to make videos a bit more frequently but this greatly increases my production cost as well. If you're able, you can help offset the cost by joining my Patreon ( unjoin anytime: dkwan.com/patreon/ ) or by using my referral links when you or a friend purchase a board ( dkwan.com/discounts/ ). Thanks for all your continued support! ❤️

[@Baptross]

Editing was good. I'm glad you will have more time for yourself, take care man!

[@brage_boi7296]

Exwey flex or Exwey wave ???

[@brage_boi7296]

I LOVE your videos

[@user-jz1jy3in8m]

Awesome videos Daniel. When do you think the wave integrate lights become standard on all exway boards? Do you think the wave swappable battery pack will be standard soon too? I’d really like the flex with these features and am wondering if it’s worth waiting for.

[@kemckelv]

Editing takes time coming from a pro here and I appreciate your content

[@scottdaviesyoutube]

Great video mate !

[@petergarcia8225]

Good Review with the cloudwheels👍👍

[@j8ffshin329]

So close to getting a set for my X1pro but 2 things made me turn back. 1: reduced contact patch & 2: lead time. I decided to pull the plug & get the bfg3 96mm set for half the price, free shipping. I slide out too often with the stock wheels so... Thanks for the review. I did upgrade my bushings so will adjust to minimize wheel bite. Happy CNY.

[@akalia_07]

Yes, finally! Daniel is back!

[@roger6956]

Your editing is the best

[@PalfraDK]

Man looks amazing riding on those wide paths within such a big city

[@bretholtzman1524]

Dan the man, nice to see your all good and having fun and feeling free, stay free my friend !

[@DanielKwan]

You too!

[@TommyDrone]

That was fun to watch

[@takindabs7381]

Great video. Just wondering when the full reveiw of the wowgo AT2 will come out

[@mmmm-it5fh]

Hi really good video. Great little board especially with the Clouds 😀 I've a Meepo mini 2 which is a brilliant board. I'm hoping that there going to bring out some sleeves like Bound motors is doing with there hubs 105mm tire sleeves would really make a difference to riding a hub motor board. Stay safe 🙃 Mark

[@AwesomeorTossem]

They now have 105mm wheels for the Meepo Mini2. I got them and they're great!

[@kiansk8143]

Wow love it

[@cesarlin]

Same thing with my X1 pro riot. I was really worried about range reduction,since X1 pro doesn’t have the best range to start with. However it doesn’t impact the range as much as I thought. I was pleasantly surprised.

[@markovoronych8798]

Hey man, could you tell me the range difference with cloud wheels? I’m thinking of getting them for my x1 pro

[@jhooohn214]

7:05 lmao that guy thought you were talking to him

[@adamflores5851]

That shirt! It has become self aware.

[@Josette321]

Nice test, thank, you think range will be better with new firmware update ?

[@petergarcia8225]

That might just be my next Eboard.

[@3DPreet]

Do you keep Turbo on on your range tests? Also which "gear" or acceleration curve to you typically ride at?

[@R0BLOXNUGGET]

Hi DK.. can you show full view of the board? Closeup view. thanks

[@terminator8220]

Nice

[@melkorWTF]

Damn Shanghai looks like a very nice city ! I think I'm going to get the Wave with cloudwheel for my short city commutes and for the portability. The pavement has quite some bumps and cracks and I like get on and off side-walks depending on the situation so a short board with a kicktail and cloudwheels seem like a good compromise between comfort, manoeuvrability and portability. Do you think that makes sense ?

[@DanielKwan]

Yes I use Wave + Cloudwheels as my daily driver

[@NemoEUC]

When are you doing a follow up on the wowgo at2?

[@millpreetk1406]

BTW I love your videos, helped inform me on how and what options to choose from for my first longboard. I had always wanted a boosted board, but I saw your video on the exway flex riot motor version(would love to see you dive deeper and compare the hub vs riot for specifically exway) and I decided to finally hop on getting one after many years of contemplation. I live in Canada so it snows and gets quite cold, so will be unusable for most of winter is why I hesitated so much mainly. But still very useful. With good maintenance what do you think lifespan of these can be? I'd think 10 years could be doable but with battery degradation over time and motor replacements if the motors fry I guess? Not sure though, never owned or even tried one before.

[@DanielKwan]

Eventually the battery performance would reduce to the point where you’d need to replace it, like the battery in your phone or laptop. Wheels, bearings, bushings and some other skate parts may need replacement from time to time.

[@millpreetk1406]

@@DanielKwan Are they accessible if I disassemble the pack? seems more reasonable than with phone batteries to disassemble and just replace the cells as everything else is worth so much as well. I wonder approximately how many KM the battery last until it lowers below 70% max capacity depending on weight of rider. Would the reading for battery percentage/KM stay accurate if someone changed out the cells? As I'd think any 18650 cells would fit in a pack if they're accessible with disassembly). Or perhaps it's a thing where one would have to purchase an entire pre assembled pack again if it's still available for that model.

[@mishgan7784]

Daniel what text layout you use? Is it a plugin? Thanks

[@bendetoth]

Is that a Garmin watch? What are you using to track your rides?

[@ryanschulz9893]

Great vid but greater shirt😂

[@BLVCKCENT]

Are they worth it tho cuz the 1st edition had some issue breaking in just 15km

[@wyattpeters9631]

Hey, daniel you should check out the new Lycaon TRX board, it has cloud wheels too!

[@davidlazarovich]

Nice to see range wasn't effected too much. What about comfort because that's what I think what really matters when putting those wheels on a shortboard. Is there a noticeable difference? Maybe you already said it in this video....admittedly I just skipped to the TLDW 😅

[@DanielKwan]

I’ve been riding with this setup so long I forgot to mention it... Yes there’s a noticeable difference in comfort for my use cases. Shorter and stiffer boards are inherently less comfortable so these wheels have made riding on sidewalk tiles much better.

[@antikytheramechanism7909]

How did you prevent wheel bite?

[@spyplane8]

DKwan I sent you a message via email on your website. I had a question / idea and wondered if you could test it. On direct drive motors is it possible for the extra protective metal sleeve to swapped with a thin PU wheel? I know the motor diameter is the same as many hub motors without the groves. This would not only protect the motor better but it would also allow the motor to still provide forward push or drive to maintain momentum rather than causing friction and scratching the sleeve badly. It seemed like the perfect solution to eliminate the biggest negative to Direct Drive (Besides not being able to adjust gear ratios when running larger wheels) In my opinion this would be a huge selling point and add an extra "feature" :) If anything on the 2nd gen Direct Drive motors the manufactures could start integrating this protection.

[@warlockboyburns]

How does it compare to a flexy board with regular 90mm wheels?

[@WAVMOB]

I am ready for an WAVE Pro. Any thoughts ?

[@morgulr3420]

My man ran a t test in his head 🤯🤯

[@raeino5434]

Just placed an order for the wave lume combo 2 hours ago, going to pick up the cloud wheels and extra battery when they go on sale in a few days, I'm really looking forward to having a shorter board for getting to and from university, can you say comfort wise how much difference the cloud wheels make over the stock wheels?

[@DanielKwan]

Quite a noticeable difference. For my use cases with this board (getting around in the city on and off sidewalks with bumpy tiles) I highly prefer these wheels instead of stock.

[@PredConsole]

Do you think this board is better than the Miles Phantom?

[@raphaellolol5463]

which would be better for the wave the 105 or 120mm cloudwheels???

[@zeddvaldez7942]

I have the same board and wheels but when I put them on they run against the plastic any tips???

[@Kim-en9gp]

When you mentioned about the airplane friendly battery is it already on the wave or is there going to be a different battery for that purpose? I searched it up on exway.com and I dont see it (edit: this was on your first wave review video)

[@DanielKwan]

It's not released yet.

[@zachschroeder7312]

Hey Daniel, I just got the new exway flex for Christmas and was trying it out for the first few times this week. My only problem so far is not being able to reach top speed. The speed I am normally hitting is around 17mph and I weigh sub 150lbs so I know that can’t be the issue. I have changed all the setting I could think of and nothing has worked to get that # up. Things I have changed: acc curve, turbo not turbo, turned off safe mode and none have seemed to work. Any suggestions thxs.

[@DanielKwan]

Have you emailed [e-mail]?

[@flawedworld4373]

LOL WTF THE SHIRT 💀 i was just showing a friend that video lmao

[@khuonglam6785]

which video. I see the meme, vbut don't know the origin

[@flawedworld4373]

Khuong Lam kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2LWkptng9ySi5Y

[@jacob.peters]

is this still your everyday board? I have an X1 pro but thinking about migrating to the shorter board for what I normally use that for

[@DanielKwan]

yup

[@ezvlogs1705]

Can u do about boards that ship to india pls

[@Kannerjb711]

Can you review the teamgee h20 or share your feelings about the board or the company?

[@esk8jaimes]

Agreed, it's one I'm wanting to get too.

[@yassenspekal635]

holy shit your city is beautiful

[@cleobertfrancisco9879]

Daniel Kwan. If your riding towards a mini ramp, sidewalk ramp or a small speed bump, should you put your weight in front or just bend your knees? I'm kinda scared to try. Exway flex owner here :) .

[@DanielKwan]

Bend your knees. Doing a little hop to deweight yourself may help too. If scared to try, I suggest putting on pads and practice falling forward on them a couple times just so you know what to expect if you do fall.

[@davidlinscheid2321]

Thanks for enduring that heat for your viewers. How would you rate the quality of the ride on the cloud wheels? Is it much better than the standard wheels are?

[@DanielKwan]

For my use cases with this board (riding in the city on and off sidewalks with bumpy tiles) I highly prefer these wheels instead of stock.

[@davidlinscheid2321]

@@DanielKwan Valuable information, thank you for the response.

[@The_main_andrew]

I was holding out on cloud wheels for my flex. Once I got them, I cannot go back. The ride is noticeably more comfortable around nyc.

[@ducanhnguyen5477]

Can you make a Giveway? Nice Video btw!

[@millpreetk1406]

I know that in electric car racing in highschool(one person things that weighed about 150-400lb. In this race battery you used was limited, and usually the one team that had sketchy big road bike wheels vs most cars had robust smaller diameter bmx wheels. The teacher that ran our team always advocated to ban usage of road bike wheels citing student safety. But generally I thought bigger wheels are more efficient on at least bikes for some reason?

[@millpreetk1406]

I guess it could be cause road bike wheels are thin actually. not because the wheels were huge but cause the tires were thinner

[@DanielKwan]

Yeah less contact patch

[@LianneJohnson]

Do you recommend 36T or 44T pulley for Exway Wave Riot Cloudwheel?

[@DanielKwan]

44T if you'll be riding on inclines or if you're heavy or if you want quicker acceleration. Otherwise 36T should be fine.

[@shaqqy34]

Any wheel bite when u do this combo?

[@DanielKwan]

If your trucks are loose and you try to force it, yes you can get bite. Highly unlikely in actual riding tho.

[@petergarcia8225]

A good cruising speed should top over 25mpg. That's really all you need.

[@yassenspekal635]

holy shit your city is beautiful. where is it ?

[@DanielKwan]

Shanghai

[@victorbesnoux5734]

do the cloudwheels reduce feeling brcks and stuff?

[@DanielKwan]

Yes

[@ilexwatches9782]

What's the music at 3:30

[@escquick]

I can’t say for the wave but I have 105 clouds on my flex and lose about 4 miles range from stock wheels. I do have the 44t pulley so not sure if that has something to do with it.

[@DanielKwan]

With the 44t instead of 36t, you should have more torque and less range.

[@escquick]

Daniel Kwan ok that makes sense. I’ll order the smaller pulley from exway ones they start their sale. Range is more important to me than torque.

[@SwyvCrux]

Hows turning with this? I'm highly considering this board with these wheels

[@DanielKwan]

Turns fine. The only downside is the board feels taller.

[@williamsandoval3549]

Having ridden both 105s and 120s, would you say the extra 15mm add more comfort to justify loss of torque and break strength?

[@l1ks42]

well what do u think (in the non mean way just curious)

[@KalJoao]

Do you think torque 110mm wheels would fit?

[@jake9854]

no

[@billwarface2730]

Is it illegal to ride electric skateboard in Shanghai or actually what is the policy?

[@DanielKwan]

Skateboards, kick scooters, and all light electric rideables are not allowed on roads, but this is mainly enforced in the more densely populated and high traffic areas.

[@goodcooks7732]

Is that a hub drive motor? Im wondering if cloud wheels would fit a hub drive motor.. thans

[@DanielKwan]

This is belt drive but cloudwheels have a product called “donuts” that fit the hub motor version. Not all hub motors tho.

[@goodcooks7732]

@@DanielKwan thanks, Would the donuts fit a exway hub drive motor? 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@DanielKwan]

@@goodcooks7732 yes

[@boredmonkee]

Any wheel bite?

[@DanielKwan]

If your trucks are loose and you try to force it, yes you can get bite. Highly unlikely in actual riding tho.

[@boredmonkee]

@@DanielKwan great thanks. I have a boosted mini and actually love carving real hard on it. Sounds like I will have to modify my ride style but was more worried about casual riding.

[@Juan-nz1gu]

Can u so a QNA in the near future

[@XenoTravis]

2nd dat

[@DanielKwan]

You mean like go thru a bunch of viewers’ questions?

[@Juan-nz1gu]

@@DanielKwan yes

[@Linkfire360]

exway wave battery is 180wh now :((

[@87MockingOwl]

My brand new Cloudwheels are super loud and the 38t gear make me lose too much top speed , i switched back to the 107 abec for the moment . Im quite disappointed

[@smwyler]

107s are loads better. Not a fan of cloud wheels, abecs are loads better

[@87MockingOwl]

@@smwyler are u using 32t gear with the 107?

[@smwyler]

MockingOwl using the 32t on the 107s. I have 38t but use the 32t. Braking is less strong but like the top speed. Invested in the 6inch AT, but range is really bad vs the 107s.

[@87MockingOwl]

@@smwyler ye same here

[@DzejkobsChannel]

hot weather like that doesnt really make you lose range.. it would have to be alot hotter (50 and up) for it to start struggling

[@Karibma]

Ordered mine July 25, still waiting.

[@NizBiuBiu]

will be sent out soon :D

[@Karibma]

Jerry Chen lies

[@NizBiuBiu]

@@Karibma Im serious man. Mine will be sent out by the end of this month

[@Karibma]

Jerry Chen End of this month man.

[@lexhoa5468]

my board is taking forever to arrive

[@esk8jaimes]

Which model exactly?

[@charlesbcraig]

I fell off my Flex two weeks ago :( got some stitches and am still recovering. I’ll be back out there soon. Need to invest in a helmet too

[@michaldousek9880]

😉

[@user-ht2sk8yt5t]

Wave更适合105mm的云轮还是120mm

[@NizBiuBiu]

105就够了， 120太大了有点儿

[@Juan-nz1gu]

Want a esk8 so bad but I'm so broke:(((

[@flawedworld4373]

Its alright man you will get there

[@Juan-nz1gu]

@@flawedworld4373 thanks haha saving up slowly but surely

[@zenasmrreflections]

Why are cloudwheels so expensive . Can buy a car with that price

[@anishagarwal9225]

Dang I'm getting about 30km w the ownboard m1

[@TheOtherG]

you got the cloud wheels on the m1?

[@anishagarwal9225]

@@TheOtherG nah I think I might get wheel bite w the 120s. I think it's pointless to go for the 105s. Considering just buying a backfire g3 deck and swapping

[@TheOtherG]

@@anishagarwal9225 you can switch decks??? lol howwwwww. i got 1/2 raisers someone on reddit said it works tighten trucks, get bushings, change trucks lmao. i changed them today and its higherrrr no wheel bite

[@anishagarwal9225]

@@TheOtherG u just gotta take off all the hardware, and put it on a new deck. Longboard decks are actually so much easier to ride on for long rides. Check out the backfire g3 deck. Prob the best deck I've ridden on

[@TheOtherG]

@@anishagarwal9225 what about the battery though

[@shanksworthy]

Hey Daniel, you okay? You seemed a little more... intense... than usual? I know this one wasn't edited by you, and maybe that's what changed the dynamic. To me you just seemed to have a more more high-strung energy than in your other videos, but hopefully I'm only imagining that.

[@DanielKwan]

It’s the editing. A lot of vlogs from youngins are edited like this with pauses between words and sentences cut out.

[@shanksworthy]

I think that’s just how they talk nowadays in general. 😉

[@Mrwisterks]

You where the turn down for what guy?

[@chialor1945]

What the fuck kinda huge wheels are those lol

[@mchen567]

WAVE30 is an expired code :(

[@DanielKwan]

Thank you. Updated the description.

[@fazer12779]

If you don’t ride it until it stops then it isn’t really a full range test.

[@NizBiuBiu]

Ppl may argue with that, to me if I can only ride at 5-9km/h(when battery hits below 10%), I dont consider thats effective range.

[@esk8jaimes]

Well I'm think riding an Esk8 until it starts beeping at you is a better estimate...

[@mr.iloveroblox2577]

haven’t watched the video yet but i gotta tell ya, there’s not even a chance these wheels could increase range😂

[@kingofbeez14]

Yo.... just bring a mask

[@DanielKwan]

Normally I do. Forgot that time.

[@Karibma]

I'm trying to change the wheels and I can't fucking do it. I can't pull off the pulley even if I had the fkn power of hulk. Fkn impossible. Someone help plz. How tf are you supposed to turn and pull?

[@DimitriStack]

Hello, i have problem with my electrit skateboard, can you help me? Can you please say your instagram?

[@alfredowilliams4647]

this vdude is such a coward please show us the boards potential

[@kos_parasite9191]

Why not wear a mask i don't understand just wear one?