WHAT IT TAKES To Edit Big TV Shows

Josh cut on House of Cards, Bloodline and currently edits COUNTERPART (w/ Oscar Winner J.K. Simmons). Here's his take on cutting it in Television.
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Counterpart is a sci-fi thriller on STARZ. Editor Josh Beal is currently editing Season 2 and allows us an inside view of his timeline as he demonstrates scene work and speaks to:
The editor's role
Storytelling techniques
The workflow on a TV show
The responsibility of the Assistant Editor
How to become a TV Editor
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[@WORTHITORNOT]

Great behind the scene's at what goes into the editing for TV !

[@HappyCarlsonsTV]

Awesomeness

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[@RobertCondol]

So much media offline!!! :P hehehe was he just playing a Video Mixdown on the top layer?

[@perspectivestudioscaribbea5899]

I followed the link but don't see anything about free tracks

[@jamiesimko]

This helped me so much by helping me to realize that I have no interest whatsoever in becoming a television show editor. Thank you!

[@focalathletic4839]

As someone who has worked in the movie industry I can you generally these back-end post-production jobs like editing, color grading, VFX etc are all extremely tedious jobs. Senior level people are paid very well but it can take 10-15 years to become truly senior and demand $300+K per year, the juniors are paid minimum wage and expected to work ridiculous hours.

[@aaronlowe3156]

@@focalathletic4839 Minimum wage for EDITING? Jeez! I work in video production for my university as a Student Assistant and I make just about $1.75/hr above California Minimum wage. Definitely one of the highest paying student positions on campus, but it has some distance from minimum wage because of the skill level. But it's sort of depressing to know that assistants get paid minimum wage working on a Television show.

[@jdiscount]

@@aaronlowe3156 You move up reasonably quickly if you are competent, a Junior role in the movie industry is usually something you stay in for a year at most, most people can move into something mid level by that point. It's not necessarily editing, any junior role in post-production will be paid poorly, roto, PA, junior editor etc. I doubt the girl shown in this clip is a junior, the juniors are probably doing the worst most boring work possible. It then takes a few years to go from Mid Level to Senior, so a Mid Level is going to get you anywhere from 50-80K a year, so an OK living wage, you can have a life in most places with that money. It's usually just a year or less of being borderline poverty.

[@GKVideography]

@@thatebutuoyguy788 I got in to editing and videography quite late in life but have managed to quit my job and now freelance. There is a good living to be made once you get going, so why not work for yourself instead? :)

[@bigboat8329]

@@GKVideography Freelance is hard. You need to consistently find clients. That kind of stress on my financial life - I couldn't take it. "Who's going to be my next client?" "What do I do if I cant find one soon?" "Maybe I'll look on this website.." "If I don't get some work soon, rent is not gonna pay itself.." Too stressful.

[@gilstrap]

Windows movie maker stepped their game up

[@ignitionliftoff6746]

No. He used final cut pro in imac

[@productivitygod7887]

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[@vincemarquez2142]

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[@IanBFootage]

It's Avid Media Composer lol

[@dimitrisfl]

I study at film school for 4 years and this is almost equally educating (surely more practical) because these schools tend to be more about art and less about how to make money and career out of that, so please make more of these videos. You do such a great job for us new editors.

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Dimitrisfl not a bad thing though

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[@MrPada143]

OMMG. To be honest Editors dont get alot of credit. Producers and Directors get all of it. I know because I also Edit behind the scenes. THIS IS GOLD!!! I’ve always wanted to know how other editors feel, especially in a big production like this. Can we get more please. Thanks again!!!

[@nothajzl]

i would say 90% of credit goes to actors,, 5% to directors and rest 5% to everybody else :)

[@RaymondHng]

That is because film/television editing is often referred to as the "invisible art". When it is well-practiced, the viewer can become so engaged that he or she is not aware of the editor's work.

[@AWSVids]

I've always felt that editing is where the movie is actually made. Production is just gathering what you need to do the edit. It's just shooting raw footage. You never really know what you have until you've cut it together, because raw footage isn't a movie. You could go through the whole of production, shoot the entire movie... but if you never edit it together, you don't have a film. Only once footage is edited together does it become a movie (unless you're doing a full-on oner film like Russian Ark. And no, Birdman wasn't a full-on oner. There was a lot of editing in that movie, it was just hidden). Then everything after the edit is just polishing and adding to the edit. The edit is the film. It's a good thing that most editors usually aren't the type to crave the spotlight, because it would otherwise be a bit tragic that they don't tend to get the recognition they deserve. But in my experience, editors tends to be pretty happy working their magic behind the scenes and then just seeing their work up on screen while hiding away from all the glitz and glamour that directors, writers, producers and actors get shoveled upon them. But in truth, editors are right up there with all those positions in terms of creative importance.

[@dimitriymirovsky]

Doesnt matter. They get paid generously and thats the only matter. Making big bucks

[@RaymondHng]

@@AWSVids The job of an editor is not simply to mechanically put pieces of a film together, cut off film slates or edit dialogue scenes. A film editor must creatively work with the layers of images, story, dialogue, music, pacing, as well as the actors' performances to effectively "re-imagine" and even rewrite the film to craft a cohesive whole. Editors usually play a dynamic role in the making of a film.

[@HowardWimshurst]

This was a Brilliant look into how professional editing is done, thank you!

[@Insulinspike]

"If you want someone difficult to please it's, like, an unhappy bride and her mother. That led into corporate work". Money quote right there.

[@adamboudron9795]

This is like what I've been looking for my whole life (yet I'm 19, I know). This content is so precious to me, in a way mostly that with the Internet, we possibly can get insights of what it is like to work in the cinema field, but not many contents actually do bring it. So yeah I've really really appreciated it, I'd really like to thank you both for that. In fact, I'm "studying" cinema in a "school", but no one is actually able to tell me what it's like to work for instance as an editor, on such projects. This keeps my dreams alive, and more, makes them grow even bigger. Can't wait to become one these guys !

[@sgky2k]

Adam Boudron ;)

[@fabihaazim7663]

exactly the same for me :)

[@busteraycan]

Start working in weddings or any job asap would be my advice. Although I am not a pro, I edited more than 30 wedding videos and the difference in the quality of my first and last job is unquestionable.

[@meganfarrell7427]

4 years ago! Hope your still chasing your dreams!

[@youssefhanna]

This is insane! I recently edited a short film for one of my friends (no budget), and seeing this is just crazy. I've already learned so much and feel so inspired to create. Thank you for this, really appreciate your hard work on these. Keep the good work up!

[@akinsanyaemmanuel9381]

I am an editor, I learnt something new from that statement "be nice to all PA you work with..." thats great.

[@ElwoodDowd]

I had to pause at 6:10 to tell you how great this video is, and how good a storyteller you are - while ALSO providing useful information that can make me a better editor. Thanks Sven.

[@morecarstuff]

exactly what i imagined the timeline to look like. I know i'm no where near these guys but sometimes i hit 12 rows of audio and video. good to see this.

[@d.edwardsfreelanceeditorvi4212]

I’ve been playing with Avid for over 7 yrs and still unsure about editing as a career. This was great thanks for the episode

[@vlcheish]

I toyed with the idea of a career in editing 12-15 years ago as I edited a lot of personal projects as a hobby and even friends encourage me to get into it as I had a knack for it. But I realized that being outside of LA(and maybe NYC) it was generally a dead end career move with the type of jobs available(I don't want to edit corporate training videos for low pay and high competition or work in a news outlet). I think the only thing I would have been passionate to do or have any chance of being halfway decent would be to work in a trailer house as my brain seemed to be suited for that. I eventually dropped the idea and just continued with my college degree and work in IT related endeavors in corporate America. It was the safe easier option that was indemand, paid well from the get go and gave me a lot of time off for other things. And more importantly I realized that doing a hobby as a full time job is a different beast when someone else is paying you since you may not be doing things you actually want to be doing.

[@vlcheish]

​@@James-nv1wf What are you talking about?

[@SuperAsianboy95]

This content is gold! Sure there are Interviews with great editors etc. but it's amazing to see the thought process in "realtime" Thanks alot!

[@AndreasAHem]

This is amazing. Thank you for making this!

[@caseyandrew4820]

As a first year film and tv student in Australia your videos help me out so much... so i just want to say thank you and keep on doing what your doing ..cheers.

[@kirbywolff]

This is exactly what I've been looking for. I don't see much content like this anywhere else on the internet. I love looking in on someones actual workflow and seeing how they do things! Thanks for creating this video!

[@videotempest7502]

This was amazing! Great insight into the editor's workflow in TV, great footage of the editing platform, and a lot of really useful information on how to get into it, what the editor's assistant handles, and how to cut intelligently. Really looking forward to more content like this! Thank you!

[@GiTxSHuM]

I love how simple his editing Bay is. I see he is running Avid. Really smooth to work on that with everyone in the room. Thank you for sharing this, I like seeing other editors work and environment. I do the same when he does beats. His writing is different but I learned it helps character development.

[@AbodidSahoo]

This video is brilliant. You literally see the timeline, the cuts and the logic behind it. Also, I loved the way Josh shares about his personal journey. The importance of the role of an assistant editor was pretty well elaborated. Loved it. More such content, please!!!

[@Kriscoart]

This was incredible and so well put together. Wow

[@fahimmuntasir3598]

Hey man i love your works ❤️

[@ArvindJuneja]

I'm amazed someone allowed you to do this. This content is GOLD. I've subbed, ringed the bell and hell I need like a week to see everything you have on your channel :) Great stuff man!

[@quotecat]

KZbin suggested this video to me while I was on break from working on a student short, working on cutting 7 takes of an interview into one long scene. It's immediately applicable knowledge. Thanks for the informative behind the scenes video.

[@thiagodana9620]

This is by far the Best video I have ever seen about the daily routine of an editor. Congratulations!

[@MarsRisingFilms]

I watch a lot of content like this... or I should say, I search for a lot of content like this. I just happened to randomly autoplayed into this video and it's hands-down one of the best videos I've seen for people who want to become professional editors! So much of this is just amateurs postulating what to do or telling you what they've been told, this guy is doing it for realsies! AMAZING! And thank you!

[@SatanicHorse]

This video is great, I've always been kind of obsessed with the behind the scenes work on films, especially when it gets to post and editing, and to actually see an editor explain and demonstrate their workflow with the actual footage instead of having short soundbites over the already finished product is just a great insight.

[@dalesnale]

"The most important thing is just to ..move." A practical tidbit of wisdom!

[@IannisMaragakis]

Behind the scenes of editing one of my favourite TV shows. I'm blown away. You always provide good material, but this, to me, was pretty amazing.

[@ricekings]

Never heard of Starz so thanks to you, I have! Awesome video, will share it with some friends

[@AtillaLifeson]

This content is GOLDEN. Thanks for everyone involved to give Sven the opportunity to give an insight into a TRUE behind-the-scenes look at how professional filmmaking is done (be it for feature or for television). I didn't plan on being the best editor of the world but I can imagine the people who are striving for that kind of goal (or just getting a proper insight behind the curtains) are ultra thankful for this upload. Also didn't expect career advices at the end of the video. Clearly shows what a humble person Josh Beal is for sharing that with the world-wide-web. And of course to you Sven: DANKE für all deine Mühe, darüber zu berichten und es mit uns zu teilen! War affengeil und spannend diese authentischen Einblicke zu bekommen!

[@IndiaHeathIRL]

Watching this is really confirming my thoughts about wanting to seriously pursue editing professionally. I used to think that I'd regret not being part of on set production and filming if I went the path of editing but after some experience now I can see that this area is what I've always been most interested in and will EASILY (and do) spend hours on. More content like this would be amazing!

[@stevejones01]

You are an inspiration. Your style and delivery of the material is perfection. Thank you for the time you spend to share this on KZbin.

[@NormanHollyn]

Fantastic piece Sven, I am totally pushing this for my students, especially the assistant editor pieces.

[@ThisGuyEdits]

oh cool. glad you like it. Thanks Norman.

[@MattMadoni]

Please do more of these. This is super insightful.

[@frannyboi7965]

I can’t imagine the amount of effort it took to get this very niche video out there for anyone to see. As a prospective tv/media student this was extremely insightful and only does good in preparing me for what might be my career. Excellent work!!

[@benwaardenburg]

This is the best kind of editing content. It's deep for those who want to dive into it, and simple enough for newcomers.

[@nicolemarie0001]

this seems like an incredible job

[@anshuljoshi6149]

This was amazing. Never seen content like this before which shows workflows, dailies, scenes etc. Editor,s generally, like their craft remain invisible. Thanks so much for this! Looking forward to more content like this.

[@bszphoto]

WOW WOW WOW I AM JUST SPEECHLESS. This is some of the coolest most exclusive content I’ve ever seen on KZbin

[@DespacitoFilms]

Wow!really,really interesting.I am an air traffic controller starting 17 years ago,so I doubt I will ever be an assistant and then an editor,but I for sure love it as a hobby and love watching this kind of stuff.Keep it on,no doubt!

[@Shanktuary]

This guy seems so knowledgeable. You could tell he could have a temper if he wants to. But his name and job is on the line also. Good information.

[@Zigguratxyz]

This kind of content is an absolute gem. If you can do more of this, do!

[@buffdaddddddddy]

ahhh there isn't enough of this kind of content on youtube, it's great that someone's out here demystifying the profession. look forward to more. thanks.

[@MrSceneNine]

Always keep hearing about grouping clips in Avid, but have never seen what that meant or how it would be organised. That alone was gold for me. These insights in to other TV shows being edited, or your own editing, are beyond appreciated.

[@jareodeleye873]

I cannot overemphasize how great this is. Gosh, you are doing more good than you realise. This was really helpful, your entire page is helpful especially for an aspiring filmmaker like me. Thanks a lot

[@arjunbagwat5378]

Love how you bring on going projects discussions and information about new trends. Makes your eyes open

[@SoSkinnyGH]

as an upcoming editor this is one of the most insightful videos i have found on the internet , thank you very much this was very inspiring to watch

[@hanniffydinn6019]

Brilliant show, doesn't need any editing tricks. It's so well written, acted and shot.

[@BurtonsAttic]

Great to see Josh's work flow.

[@Rob_-dv6ei]

I'm more into the script side of a film, as someone who wishes to be a director - but I need to educate myself into the filming and editing aspects, and this is a really good insight into this.

[@domenico9992]

Fuck I see videos getting longer all over youtube...but then I whatch one of yours and I remember that somebody is still putting relevant and actual content inside that timeframe. Thanks Sven, for your videos!

[@leelove452]

Sven good stuff ! Thanks for all the hard work and please let the people you worked with a Starz how much we appreciated them giving us insight to how a show is put together.

[@gkochanowsky]

Thank you for that fly-on-the-wall view.

[@georgeb5166]

This is exactly what I was looking for. This video is pure VALUE. Thanks!

[@aliciaslough1808]

This is so fascinating! Would love to see more of this type of content. Thank you for putting this out there, Sven!

[@barneyelo-filmmakingtipstu1739]

This video is pure gold I've always wanted to have a in Detail look of how a editor is going to work from scratch to end...nice video...love it

[@EduardoHypolito]

Starting pre production of my independent series and that's a really awesome content for me. So much to learn. Really motivated for this video. Thank you.

[@mostafaashraf9026]

We love that type of content, please make more of it

[@EAHall]

This was awesome. This content has inspired me to keep pushing to get work as an EA. I'm no spring chicken but I am passionate about editing and I WILL find work in the industry some how. Thanks again.

[@Vetlestr]

Fantastic video Sven, thanks for letting us in on the inside!

[@SimonLewis1986]

This is really great man. So insightful to get a glimpse into the craft of top level editing a bit more. It also shows how important a good actor is. For JK Simmons to just sit and bang out a solid 9 minute take several times is incredible. I'm currently helping cut a low-level short, and the delivery from the actors really does affect what shots you choose, in a way it's sort of governing the entire cut - which shouldn't be the case really.

[@IsmailElBakkali]

This video is going straight to my "favorite" video playlist, AWESOME WORK!

[@matthewdean3189]

Wow what a video! Been editing for 10 years now on predominantly branded content documentaries and have always been curious about how I could potentially make the transition eventually to doing larger TV shows and this provided such a great insight!

[@sirsneedster]

Man that guy is smart and talented. Really cool to see his workflow.

[@rob3018]

I would love to see you showcase the skills of, and interview the video editor of 2017 action movie, *Baby Driver!*

[@GoldenLionDj]

I've not finished the video yet but I know that I'm gonna love it. Keep it up man

[@AllThingsFilm1]

Excellent video. This was very helpful in that it showed so many aspects of the editing world, and the importance of workflow in editing. As a visual effects artist, I discovered that I learned the most when I watched another artist who used a workflow that made sense to me. The more their workflow spoke to me, the better I understood the program I was trying to learn. I believe that workflow is everything when it comes learning and understanding how to use a program or understanding a process such as editing. And many programs have their own workflow based on their interface design. Which is why I think people may prefer one program over another. For me, I like DaVinci Resolve, because the "workflow" of its interface makes sense to me. So, I am able to create my workflow around that design. So, there are two workflows in a sense. One dictated by the program's design, and the other is what the artist creates around the program he/she uses. A long-winded answer, but I hope I made sense. :D

[@TryptychUK]

The trouble is, you move to another VFX house, and they have different workflows, different software, different storage and file naming standards, and you often have to go right back to the top.

[@lourencoziggy4723]

@VFX Todd... which software do you use?

[@Jimmy-qc8hk]

Sounds like VFX is using Resolve 16

[@dylanvanegmond8542]

Great video! A true behind the scenes of someone who is willing to share his knowledge. More of this!

[@RoadtripMedia]

Man this is phenomenal content, for both beginners and seasoned editors.

[@BenCunninghamVideo]

Sven this is amazing. Such close access full of useful information. Thank you!

[@valentinadannunzio]

Thank you for everything you are doing for us (really)...!

[@MarkusKretzschmarPhoto]

OMG, this is such an amazing source of information about how experienced editors work. I started editing professionally in 2016 and suck up like a sponge everything there is to know about editing as an "artform" so to say. Really loved the book by Walter Murch that you recommended. Thanks so much for doing this channel. Just became a patron :)

[@ThisGuyEdits]

welcome in the clubhouse :)

[@ChrisGuiton]

Was working on a show right next to them at LA Center Studios last year while they filmed this!! The sets were incredible!!!

[@ItsGippetto]

Editors are truly the unsung heroes of the entertainment industry. I have so much respect for them. I'm trying to step my editing game up because I am more of a screenwriter, director, and actor.

[@SuccessinTech]

These are the behind the scenes I was wondering about for years! Great stuff!!!

[@marquism1799]

Thank you so much for creating this. One of my dreams is to become a professional editor on a big television show, so this was a real treat to see.

[@MarkusPalmHD]

As someone who is jumping into editing more and more, this is really good content. Really appreciate it!

[@patricklevar]

Man really really really good stuff wow thank you 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@HombreBestia]

Patrick Levar Hey! I like your videos too.

[@65Drums]

This was incredible. Thank you so much for going through all the work to make this video happen!

[@JavierMercedes]

Your KZbin channel is on a-whole-nother level. Amazing content.

[@narayantx]

This was great. I love getting insights from working professionals. And the Counterpart scenes were the icing on the cake. Thank you This Guy Edits for sharing.

[@SpikeWolf13]

What a way to tease the questions asked by the patreons... made me truly consider becoming a patreon :)

[@leafleap]

Being an editor seems like if someone were to dump a giant puzzle in your lap and told you to put it all together without letting you see the cover of the box it came with.

[@DominikBelancic]

Brilliant video! We need more content like this online, keep up the great work!

[@willcutu]

I know this is late but yeah I love these videos. Your channel is the first I looked at for editor advice.

[@tuvasyarriver7854]

Wow, I loved this show and was amazed by the amount of effort you put in it ! ❤️

[@Willyboyz123]

Yo, this made me want to cut professionally so badly haha

[@LazarusTVDK]

0:46 - "hello" scared the fuck out of me

[@omenriver2399]

This was brilliant. Good to get some actual time with the working editors on a show i love

[@UnusualAttitudes]

That’s really, SUPER interesting; thanks for presenting it. Like others have said, this shows me that I’m not interested in editing TV, but I do LOVE editing & cutting & grading & some comp’ing- all myself. I love to watch others, so please keep it coming!!

[@LEXPIX]

Great to see behind the curtain. Wow, that editing timeline looks intense.

[@manuelsweingarten]

Wow dude. Really nice insight you put together there. It's really interesting to watch josh doing his thing and how he works with avid. It is the prejudice that professional editors dont want to share their knowledge with other people, well i guess not in Josh's case. Good job again. Keep doing this kinda videos please.

[@Search4TruthReality]

Excellent presentation. Validated the time I take to edit shows; the workflow I follow in editing; and, I appreciated seeing how the assistant works with the editor. Thank you.

[@organicmilk5]

Absolutely incredible it looks extremely complicated but fun. Avid is by far the single most difficult editing software I’ve used.

[@JoshuaAvia]

Wow! Thank you for taking the time to do this 🙏🏽

[@antoniobrewer13]

I just want to say thanks for these videos you do. It’s teaching me a lot about the process.

[@TheMajorLeagueGinger]

As someone who focuses on editing, and wants to be an editor of some sort, this kind of insight into the big league editing is really interesting!

[@nicholasboule5134]

Amazing video, i love editing and its really nice to see some high end editors work and how they interact to keep things on schedule while doing an excellent job. Counterpart looks to be a great show ill need to watch now.

[@CrisMertens]

Thanks for this video Sven - this is such a great BTS of how everything works. Love it!

[@anomalija6469]

Editing is most underrated part of movie/TV industry.