stitches is insane Can carry early game, can give you free cursed rooms by using the teleport next to the door, pseudo flight and can kill shopkeepers :D
@henrybusse75136 күн бұрын
Stitches my beloved
@div_tm6 күн бұрын
It can also extinguish blue and purple fires
@vacmorr19653 күн бұрын
I came from the short and that first sentence HOOKED my attention
@latermanner2 күн бұрын
Im glad it worked lol
@dapeevi7 күн бұрын
Goblinosmosis: two steps ahead(bro does t lost itemless runs to isaac) Also where tf is c section it belongs in very doable
@latermanner7 күн бұрын
C Section is only really good when combined with other items, that being said it could potentially be a maybe
@victorkao14727 күн бұрын
It’s actually not *THAT* good without tears up, range up, and other synergies. It’s still obviously good and a certified boss killer, but I can see it struggling in regular rooms for sure. C Section scales with items and buffs, but Sacred Heart and Godhead in comparison just have a much higher starting line, and that’s what you need in itemless
@MashuSlyferiux7 күн бұрын
C Section itemless is trash
@dapeevi6 күн бұрын
@MashuSlyferiux you have summoned me
@MashuSlyferiux6 күн бұрын
@dapeevi hi
@wixly10793 күн бұрын
Haven't watched the vid yet, but I really appreciate that you made this into an actual edited video. Haven't been able to tune into the streams due to a changed work schedule, and listening to entire VODs and also keeping up with reading through *all* the Discord debates can be really exhausting. Anyway keep doing what you guys are doing :)
@Fruitjuiceenjoyer694204 күн бұрын
I could see lacraphagy being doable, but doable with just the normal keeper, triple shot + lacraphagy is an insane synergy
@ЮлияИсупова-ь1ф7 күн бұрын
when i saw the subscriber and view count i was honestly shocked. you deserve so much more!
@latermanner7 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@MashuSlyferiux7 күн бұрын
yea agree i really liked the style of the video and how he reasons about it
@Wet_Creatine7 күн бұрын
The all items tier list doesn’t account for the fact that wafer is useless on 4 of the characters
@victorkao14727 күн бұрын
It does. That’s why it’s A+ and not S
@june99147 күн бұрын
@@victorkao1472it's actually useless on 100% of characters because any character can use the lost soul stone and thus unable two benefit from their effective health being doubled
@flippythebear13493 күн бұрын
And on greed/greedier mode as well
@june99143 күн бұрын
@flippythebear1349 there are still champion enemies and some bosses that deal double damage in greedier, as well as sanguine bond
@flippythebear13493 күн бұрын
@june9914 being useful in 1 % scenerios doesn't make it good
@victorkao14727 күн бұрын
I think tech x is actually plenty possible. It deals quite a bit of dmg, infinite range, aoe, and spectral. With some tears up and shotspeed down pills, I can definitely see it making to the end
@latermanner7 күн бұрын
Yeah it should definitely be a maybe at least
@MashuSlyferiux7 күн бұрын
Ehh it ain't better than Brim
@victorkao14726 күн бұрын
@@MashuSlyferiux nah. Base tech x deals 26.29 dps. Brim deals 17.85 dps. Besides, brim somewhat scales with tears, but it doesn’t scale very well with tears. Tech X doesn’t have the same problem. A third point I would like to make is that tech x can have a second option of scaling with shotspeed down. Brim doesn’t have that option
@victorkao14726 күн бұрын
@@latermanner believe it or not, I might actually place it above sacred heart
@MashuSlyferiux6 күн бұрын
@@victorkao1472 Tech X is not as fast kill, as precise and as safe as Brim, all things considered I'd say it's not really close
@MaxIdiot4 күн бұрын
phd is doable if you have gulp in rotation
@latermanner2 күн бұрын
We put marbles into disqualified, i think gulp is only allowed if you keep only that one trinkets by my itemless ruleset
@MashuSlyferiux7 күн бұрын
Mega Mush is way too low, I did a Mega Mush run only myself although I have to see if I can repeat myself on Rep+ territory
@MashuSlyferiux7 күн бұрын
Also I've seen people being able to pull it off with superbuffed Jar of Wisps from Repentance+
@klepie38745 күн бұрын
i love your discussion on the items but dear god your voice cracks are grating
@Bambochutafreak6 күн бұрын
solid video
@ЛъчезарИванов-ю3м6 күн бұрын
I ActUAlly ♀️💅 ... Ah - I fEEEl like ♀️💅🐓
@zohar99716 күн бұрын
Prob c section, epic fetus, abyss or void are the best
@evandrofilipe15267 күн бұрын
Hey, what about echo chamber? One vurp pill and you win. Think strength, full health, you can increase your luck. chaos card? edit: I just though of wildcard and jera. Seems pretty easy, I guess its all luck tho, the definition of maybe. Edit: what about suptorium?
@latermanner7 күн бұрын
I think you get widdled down on rooms, if soul of Lilith was allowed i could kinda see it, but vurp spam is actually the only way this can happen, which feels very unrealistic
@evandrofilipe15267 күн бұрын
@latermanner idk, you get more out of your stats aswell
@victorkao14727 күн бұрын
@@evandrofilipe1526with echo chamber and vurp, you can get to >10 luck, 5 tear rate, 2 speed, and infinite range. But are those enough? Idk. Vurp + balls seems like infinite health though, so wait, maybe you are completely right
@victorkao14727 күн бұрын
@@latermannerbut manner, have you considered vurp + balls?
@latermanner7 күн бұрын
@victorkao1472 Like i said that is so unrealistic that the best it could go is maybe tier
@Arthad7 күн бұрын
Wish I was there for the stream, can't believe I missed it
@latermanner7 күн бұрын
At least you got to watch it more in depth than literally anybody else while editing lol
@OissinODonnell6 күн бұрын
Where's Suplex? I think that's doable, similar s and damage as Stiches
@ccs88474 күн бұрын
1:13:00 hey look im on camera after a few tests i think i way overestimated how many bombs you can save up even with the express intention to save as many as possible compltely itemless, urn makes every floor before cathedreal stupidly easy but you get walled HARD past that point. urnheads we have lost
@santiagovidelaleiva7 күн бұрын
Lets go!!! Still, Urn is doable. Well, maybe maybe.
@victorkao14727 күн бұрын
If you find an emperor’s card, then save it, and then beat Isaac with only bomb, then I think you can teleport directly to blue baby in chest
@garblites7 күн бұрын
isn't there a challenge all about that?
@victorkao14727 күн бұрын
@ yes, but it doesn’t go past Isaac
@ДмитрийИванников-ж6о7 күн бұрын
Idk why, but on my last run with knife, it couldn't damage delirium. Like it didn't do trow damage, so I killed him with butt bombs and contact damage (was playing Jacob and Esau, one of them had waffer)
@Tiax7767 күн бұрын
I wish I wouldn't have wasted money on this during Christmas sale. The damage in this game is absolute ass and everything is so damn fast. The enemies move so erratically when you hit them. I just don't get it, I watched some guy play and they just crushed everything. You have rooms where some guy is spamming green crap bombs on the ground and half the room is gone and other half is filled with holes. There's no way to avoid some damage because your damage is just utter garbage.
@fachusshorts7 күн бұрын
You will get used to it, its really not that bad
@victorkao14727 күн бұрын
Get good
@Tiax7767 күн бұрын
@@victorkao1472 Let me guess, you got all the items before repentance?
@victorkao14727 күн бұрын
@ no. I started after repentance
@bellaspeaks7 күн бұрын
bait
@victorkao14727 күн бұрын
(I was right about knife > sword smh)
@BobsRottenHeadEnjoyer7 күн бұрын
New video style??? I N S A N E ? ? ... also WHERE BOB'S ROTTEN HEAD
@latermanner7 күн бұрын
Bob's rotten head was two tiers above gurdy, it just couldn't be seen on the list
@sickomobamba96197 күн бұрын
Moms knife and maw of the void. Edit- after watching maw ain’t it on bosses lol
@FITOXLOL7 күн бұрын
Where is C section? that item is pretty much a free run
@latermanner7 күн бұрын
C Section is a synergy item, it is surprisingly weak on its own
@FITOXLOL7 күн бұрын
@@latermanner i would put it at double, not as good as the knife for example but still very strong on it's own and if you get good pills then it's really good
@victorkao14727 күн бұрын
@@FITOXLOLyou can try it in an actual run, but I think at base, without good stats and synergies to back it up, C Section isn’t THAT good. It’s still pretty strong and boss killer for sure, but I can see it struggling into rooms. Even though C Section probably scales the best in the game, Sacred Heart and Godhead, in comparison, just have much higher *floors*
@xadielplasencia36744 күн бұрын
@@latermannerNo its not my man, you just need tears and are golden, even without them you are fine