What Kris REALLY Wants to Say - Part 2 | Deltarune Archive/Analysis

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Жыл бұрын

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Part One: • What Kris REALLY Wants...
Fenrick's Tea Theory Vid: • Deltarune: The Tea Theory
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@llumi_nate
@llumi_nate Жыл бұрын
quick disclaimer: KZbin doesn't seem to be letting me add auto-captions, so I'll have to put in them myself. Sorry about this! I'll try to add them as quick as I can. :) EDIT: ok so now for some reason youtube decided to add auto-captions lol. idk why they took a while but yeah
@Boondoggle4213
@Boondoggle4213 Жыл бұрын
No worries!😊
@_gremlinboy
@_gremlinboy Жыл бұрын
It's always appreciated when creators put in the effort for ppl who need them. Thank you for slogging through manual captions for us!
@boomgirlbucko
@boomgirlbucko Жыл бұрын
The were probably vibe checking your video first
@thirdwheel9938
@thirdwheel9938 Жыл бұрын
This doesn't have much to do with the actual comment but I thought it might be funny to add: Kris can also unconsciously click on a "monsters 4 humans in your area" virus. Just thought it was funny
@elver2218
@elver2218 Жыл бұрын
I think Kris doesnt like Ralsei cuz hes too kind! Like sus type of kind As a Kris type of loner i dont like way too kind ppl like Ralsei cuz seems like they are being Fake rather than kind most of the time
@youraverageintrovert1990
@youraverageintrovert1990 Жыл бұрын
For the queen Perish option, it could just be Kris having a dark sense of humor. We already know they're mischievous, and they make tons of jokes, who says those two dont overlap?
@Theoriginalstarkittnd93
@Theoriginalstarkittnd93 Жыл бұрын
Then again, it could be a way of coping. Some people use humor as a coping mechanism, and in my personal experience, the people who tend to joke about suicide tend to also have those thoughts.
@youraverageintrovert1990
@youraverageintrovert1990 Жыл бұрын
@@Theoriginalstarkittnd93 Fair point, I just wanna lighten it up
@DogsRNice
@DogsRNice Жыл бұрын
Maybe they know it's the player saying parish so they sound glad that the player wants to be gone or something Which is also a pretty dark interpretation
@Theoriginalstarkittnd93
@Theoriginalstarkittnd93 Жыл бұрын
@@youraverageintrovert1990 that is also very fair! :D
@xviithestar2356
@xviithestar2356 Жыл бұрын
Maybe he just wanted to mock queen telling he is happy to die instead of following her.
@trondordoesstuff
@trondordoesstuff Жыл бұрын
One minor thing you missed; the Swatchling "Warmify" and "Coldify" acts. * Talked about the color of the summer sun shining on a beach ball. * Talked about the steam of a fresh hot chocolate. * Talked about the warmth of a loving embrace. * Talked about the crunch of the last pickle in the refrigerator. * Talked about the chill of the wind on the ice skating pond. * Talked about the snow matted on your brother's nose. Since these acts have much longer descriptions and are more effective at changing the Swatchlings' colors than Susie's or Ralsei's acts in this fight, it could be said that they care a lot about these topics and are poetic in expressing them.
@chiefhydropolis
@chiefhydropolis Жыл бұрын
I find the pickle and chocolate ones interesting because Kris has a strong liking for hot chocolate and because of Asgore specifically having one pickle in his fridge.
@liviwaslost
@liviwaslost Жыл бұрын
@@chiefhydropolisplus, he would go get hot chocolate with his brother at the diner.
@chiefhydropolis
@chiefhydropolis Жыл бұрын
@@liviwaslost And that, too.
@adoggo5884
@adoggo5884 Жыл бұрын
Snow on Adriel’s nose? W H A T D O E S T H A T H A V E T O D O W I T H A N Y T H I N G ? =)
@mrblakeboy1420
@mrblakeboy1420 10 ай бұрын
that looks like topics that relate to each family member of the dreemurrs, being asgore, toriel, and asriel in that order for each. asgore likes beach ball and pickles, toriel likes hot chocolate and ice skating, and asriel likes hugs and snow
@jwoodsonmusic
@jwoodsonmusic Жыл бұрын
29:30 A good theory I’ve heard is that Kris slashing the tires accomplished 2 things: 1) Susie gets to stay and sleep over. I think Kris would enjoy this on its own but I don’t think the reason is solely for the pleasure of it. Kris wanted to create a dark fountain and wants Susie there. 2) The tire slashing got Toriel to call the cops, which is what I think was Kris’s real angle. Kris has been trying to tell Undyne about the dark worlds for 2 chapters now. This is why Kris opened the door before making the dark fountain. As for why Kris made the dark fountain, one can only guess. It’s weird they made one right after being told about the Roaring, but maybe they figured just one more fountain wouldn’t do any harm. I think Kris wants to prove what’s going on to the adults in their life. They can’t speak freely or do what they want to do, so this is a desperation move on Kris’s part to get some control over the situation.
@shadowstrike07
@shadowstrike07 Жыл бұрын
My only thing about Kris having told Undyne two chapters in a row is that it's not a required interaction so it's hard to factor that into any storyline stuff at least imo
@proxi315
@proxi315 Жыл бұрын
@@shadowstrike07 Not sure if it's true or not, but another commenter mentioned that: "if you start straight from chapter two, Kris makes certain choices around Hometown in chapter one. They tell Undyne about the dark world, and they don't visit Asgore." Can't really be taken as final proof, but I do think it's a major hint that points towards Kris wanting to tell Undyne about the dark worlds. But then again, the original commenter isn't sure if it's true and I'm honestly too lazy to test it out myself rn so it could very well be wrong
@jwoodsonmusic
@jwoodsonmusic Жыл бұрын
@@proxi315 I also can't be too sure. But I played Chapter 2 on a different computer and account than the one I played chapter 1 in. I remember when talking to Undyne and telling her about the dark world again she made a comment about how I'd said something like that previously. So yes, Kris on their own seems to be inclined towards telling Undyne about the dark worlds.
@Colddirector
@Colddirector Жыл бұрын
Honestly that interpretation would make Kris' decision to create a new dark fountain even after the weird route make a lot of sense. Now they they know people's lives are in danger it would only increase their urgency to get the adults involved.
@Silly_Sulky_Seli
@Silly_Sulky_Seli Жыл бұрын
for option 1 and how it'd be weird bcus Susie walks anyway: Toriel would not let a child go out into the dark alone and want to drive her home
@MisterLambda
@MisterLambda Жыл бұрын
I definitely think Kris wants to remain silent instead of reciprocating with “It’s nice that Ralsei is Ralsei.” Because the very compliment that Ralsei gave them “It’s nice that you are you.” Rings so hollow given their current predicament. Ralsei doesn’t even know the real Kris, I think this is partly why Kris is not so overtly fond of him.
@T0B3573R
@T0B3573R Жыл бұрын
It makes sense, kris already knows Susie and Noelle which is probably why their tea heals much more than Ralsei’s, I don’t think Kris necessarily hates him per say, but yeah.
@cosmicspacething3474
@cosmicspacething3474 Жыл бұрын
Something I’d like to mention about the “Snowgrave” route is that Kris doesn’t just not want it, they actively try to stop it. There are many opportunities where you can exit the route, in which the dialogue choices where you exit it start off dismissive, but then throughout the route they become more apologetic and even desperate. After Berdly gets iced Kris straight up refuses to let the soul see Noelle while she’s with Susie unlike the normal route, probably in fear of either of them getting hurt. And in the Spamton Neo fight they cry out for help from everyone everyone except Noelle. Remember, YOU call for her. Kris probably would’ve rather died to Spamton at that point. I have a feeling once there’s nothing left to lose Kris is going to be the final boss, with you taking control of the vessel.
@pros_0143
@pros_0143 10 ай бұрын
Also, if you STARE Berdly until his mercy bar is full, the snowgrave is aborted and a happy tune can be heard. Although it is us that can act, the fact that Kris can only stare screams of how much he didn't want any of this to happen. Either a last act of defiance or a plead for it to stop. Maybe after chapter 3 snowgrave Kris will actually start opposing the player, since it has the power to do a massacre, or will act more submissive since it knows what happens when it opposes us, slowly disappearing.
@cosmicspacething3474
@cosmicspacething3474 10 ай бұрын
@@pros_0143 If the twisted sword is anything to go off of, it’s going to be the former. It has a trance power DOWN effect. I think it’s the only way we’re gonna get to play as the vessel.
@sapphire4310
@sapphire4310 7 ай бұрын
@@pros_0143 this seems very likely to me. if kris is unhappy with us controlling them even in the NORMAL route, then i think another weird route is enough to make them hit their breaking point. i believe that part of the reason why kris opened the dark fountain was because the dark worlds might have some way of helping them free themself
@Kontielsk
@Kontielsk 6 ай бұрын
​@@sapphire4310I remember that if you did a true pacifist route in deltarune chap 2, you would get a different ending / outro at the end of it. Kris didn't levitate their hand, instead, they just put it back I don't know if it's still in the game though, But I've seen that happen before.
@rayvonistired
@rayvonistired Жыл бұрын
I think ralsei claiming Kris to be "passionate" in their response about gaming could just be ralsei misreadings kris's tone because ralsei probably isn't really good at reading social cues because he's been alone for so long and is only now actually experiencing anything
@ari638
@ari638 Жыл бұрын
Everyone knows that Ralsei and Asriel share the same letters and are goats, so if we assume that ralsei is some kind of dark world version of asriel OR (my personal favourite) a dark world version of Kris' younger self (missing green crayon, red horn headband they wore as a kid etc) then ralsei is probably remembering how enthusiastic Kris was for games when they used to play with their brother when they were both younger.
@amndmirk
@amndmirk Жыл бұрын
also autism
@mintpanda1
@mintpanda1 Жыл бұрын
kris actually is a gamer, though. Berdly was having trouble making a minecrap server, so kris made one for him, and they played together for hours. and in the undertale anniversary stream, berdly constantly talks about how they game together
@uncroppedsoop
@uncroppedsoop Жыл бұрын
@@mintpanda1 probably ashamed of it because of the connotations of the term "gamer"
@gristen
@gristen Жыл бұрын
"gaming is my life" kris says, while their life is quite literally a video game someone else is playing
@Dragon-gg6jy
@Dragon-gg6jy Жыл бұрын
8:00 the way Susie says that makes it seem like Kris still smells like apples, so they weren't bothered by Susie's remarks enough to change shampoo/conditioner or whatever it is that makes their hair smell like apples, it could implie that Kris already liked Susie back then
@harukagic
@harukagic Жыл бұрын
Either that, or they're waiting for Susie to bite their head off
@gjk-arts5855
@gjk-arts5855 Жыл бұрын
@@harukagic “WHY THE HELL DID YOU SAY THAT SO ENTHUSIASTICALLY !?”
@drascia
@drascia Жыл бұрын
I think that given the fact it was said with no intonation, "losing sleep from being Susie's partner" makes sense as something Kris would say sarcastically. Like maybe they're losing sleep in a good way, from going to and/or thinking about the Dark World, which they found because of being her partner. Or even like when restaurant customers say "oh the food was absolutely awful" when they've clearly enjoyed it. After all, Kris is known for sarcasm and silly jokes and antics.
@Breached18
@Breached18 Жыл бұрын
Alphys would comment on the sarcasm, but she comments on the lack of negative emotion
@LiMe251
@LiMe251 Жыл бұрын
Kris does have some characterization in snowgrave, that characterization is the abort dialogue lines
@jruler93
@jruler93 Жыл бұрын
Either way, they really don't like the player using them to force Noelle to get stronger.
@gristen
@gristen Жыл бұрын
yea but the characterization mostly just boils down to "they really dont like this". which is already kind of obvious.
@LiMe251
@LiMe251 Жыл бұрын
@@gristen yeh
@orchididol
@orchididol Жыл бұрын
@@gristen im curious what it means when kris approaches noelle during the electric puzzle though
@gristen
@gristen Жыл бұрын
@@orchididol i think that just our will making kris move. im pretty sure kris approaching noelle happens due to us choosing the "proceed" prompt
@Debater
@Debater Жыл бұрын
There's a lot of interesting things in the game that show Kris' personality. How they hate reading the paper about Asgore and the police department, the fact that they willingly eat the moss in Chapter 2 and are pleased at finding it according to Noelle, their hurt face after *the route which shall not be named,* the various implications that they dislike how them being human makes them different from the rest of their family and the town, literally anything even remotely related to Asriel, their various interactions with Noelle on the normal route, their interactions with the Choco Diamond, and that's just to name a few. Kris has a ton of various things in the game that reveal and expand on a good deal about their character. I like how Toby's left so much info available in the game like this, if you just look for it.
@ari638
@ari638 Жыл бұрын
I think with things like asgores paper, the book on humans, and Asriels room in the castle, it's less that kris doesn't want to see it and more that kris doesn't want YOU to see it. Imagine a being you know very little about has possessed you, I wouldn't want them prying on sensitive/emotional information either like my father being laid off, my adoption, and my brothers search history
@Debater
@Debater Жыл бұрын
@@ari638 I get the logic regarding Asriel's room (though it's arguable), but I feel the text you get from the interactions with the books when combined with additional context heavily implies they stopped reading more due to a personal dislike of the content over not wanting you to see. I can type out my reasoning, if you want.
@ari638
@ari638 Жыл бұрын
@@Debater yeah go on, I'd be interested to hear it! (whatever the case actually ends up being, I'm sure we will find out in subsequent chapters)
@Debater
@Debater Жыл бұрын
@@ari638 So, for one, note Kris' various reactions to the books when you read them. They're not like Kris trying to hide information from you, they're somewhat more instinctive and emotional reactions. They don't feel...thought out, per se. If Kris was thinking from the start that they didn't want you to read the items, they could just close their eyes, like with Azzy's room. Instead, they actually start to read the items, even reading the newspaper on their own, only to stop when something that would logically discomfort them appears. They didn't stop reading the book on humans because they didn't want you to read it (given that it's a book on human care that they don't really have a reason to read said book, and combined with their reaction, this is probably their first time opening it), they aggressively and swiftly slam the book shut upon seeing a picture of a bunch of humans. They have no issue reading the book, only seeing the picture actually bothers them. This reaction is entirely logical, as we already have hints in the game that Kris isn't entirely comfortable with them being different from their family (one of which being the fake goat horns they used to wear to feel more like their family) and the other townspeople. They're the only human in their town, different from everyone they know. Kris wouldn't want to have that fact stuffed deeper into their face. As for the newspaper, they only stopped reading after being forced to read how Asgore basically got fired from the police force, with the wording, "...there's no need to read any more." That doesn't feel as much "Kris doesn't want us specifically to see this", more like "Kris doesn't want to keep thinking about this topic." The narration says that Kris is basically just skimming this since they're right next to it, they've probably never read this article before. The section about Asgore caught them as off-guard as us, they probably just didn't want to read it. The paper wasn't even really about Asgore, there wasn't even really that much about him in this Undyne-focused article, but even seeing a minor mention of what happened with him made Kris want to stop reading.
@lacabraasada2326
@lacabraasada2326 Жыл бұрын
​​@@Debater After seeing that dragon book Asriel keeps in the house, I don't think I want to see his search history either.
@samgeorge1452
@samgeorge1452 Жыл бұрын
There's definitely something to be said in that it's basically never Ralsei saying what Kris's expression is. It's almost always Susie. Because Susie has a genuine care for Kris and tries to understand them. This isn't to say Ralsei doesn't care about Kris, but I certainly think he actually tries to understand Kris less. Susie is empathetic and Ralsei is sympathetic.
@samgeorge1452
@samgeorge1452 Жыл бұрын
Snowgrave details worth mentioning: Kris does not eat moss in the route. We know from the normal route dialogue that this is something Kris normally enjoys, so this could be an indication Kris is upset and doesn't want to do something that would normally make them happy. Kris is said to look upset or hurt after Berdly's death. And, the biggest, most obvious one: "Kris called for help" but *"You* whispered Noelle's name" making it very clear Kris isn't okay with Noelle being manipulated, as they aren't the one to call for her.
@sal106
@sal106 Жыл бұрын
9:35 If we follow the theory that says that Ralsei is Kris's childhood headband, maybe that's why he said that Kris is fond of videogames.
@astuffedalpaca5365
@astuffedalpaca5365 Жыл бұрын
I think it would make a lot of sense for Kris to dislike or feel neutral on Ralsei, but his tea healing them 60 hp just… doesn’t convince me of that? The most common reason I see cited as to why 60 hp = dislike/neutral is that it’s only 10 hp higher than what Ralsei heals from Noelle tea. But the thing is, even though he doesn’t really know her, he still likes her. He describes her tea as “soft and sweet” and in the unused acid lake dialogue he calls her a nice girl and praises her for mastering the ice element. (On the other hand, Noelle is very unaware of Ralsei to the point of his tea literally being empty for her) Also, Noelle tea heals Kris 70 hp, and she’s an old friend they’re reconnecting with. Most importantly, many of Ralsei’s party member descriptions describe him as Kris’s friend. I don’t ship kralsei or anything and I don’t think Kris wants to hug him or nibble on his dummy but numerically it just doesn’t make sense to me that 60 hp indicates dislike or even neutrality. Anyway, I’m glad you mentioned Kris doesn’t actually like Spamton as a person. They might relate to his situation, but he’s still a creepy grown ass man trying to get them to meet him alone. I think a lot of players project onto Kris and assume that they’re upset post-Spamton NEO because they liked Spamton, but it’s far more reasonable to me that they’re upset because they’re worried about what his fate as a puppet means for their own. He betrayed them and true to kill them and their friends instead of helping them, after all! Overall, fantastic job!
@Debater
@Debater Жыл бұрын
I feel as though it's fair to say that Kris doesn't necessarily like or dislike Spamton, per se. He disturbs them a bit, and there's aspects of him Kris doesn't like, but it's more like Kris...pities Spamton. They may not necessarily like him because he's creepy and unstable, but they understand him. Even if you have to start the Spamton deal path, Kris willingly goes along by asking Susie and Ralsei to stay back. If they were so disturbed or uncomfortable in that scenario, why wouldn't they bring their friends in with them as backup? They were willing to help him somewhat, even without our input. Had Kris not chosen to speak, they would have gone with them to meet Spamton. As for the Ralsei thing, yeah. 60 HP seems decent for "I literally just met you yesterday, but you seem nice enough". It's a small step above neutral. Kris is willing to consider Ralsei a friend of sorts, if only a new one they don't really know yet.
@grimmsoul3096
@grimmsoul3096 Жыл бұрын
i don't want more ships. it is just insanity how much were made. -_-
@Klui_
@Klui_ Жыл бұрын
Gotta agree with this. At most Kris is neutral on Ralsei, but it's not on a dislike level. They don't feel as much affection for him as the player though, and I do believe the overly friendly choices are all on us, not Kris, especially cause we know from Asgore Kris doesn't exactly like stuff like hugs. They probably see him as a friend, just not their closest one at all. It's interesting however that despite spending most of their day together during chapter 1 and barely any with Susie, they made such an emotional connection with her and yet have a much more smaller one with Ralsei, lot of great character interactions are being set up here and I'm very excited for that.
@astuffedalpaca5365
@astuffedalpaca5365 Жыл бұрын
@@Debater it’s true, Kris tells Susie and Ralsei to stay outside when they go into Spamton’s shop. I don’t think that means they wanted to go in though, after all in his shop the “leave” option is replaced with “RUN AWAY” and it’s much bigger. But I do think they relate to Spamton enough to risk going into his shop alone if they’re forced to go, even if they were scared.
@uncroppedsoop
@uncroppedsoop Жыл бұрын
@@astuffedalpaca5365 I personally figure they were morbidly curious enough to go along with what Spamton said to do, but still very much unnerved, hence not going off by themself right away but rather getting other people they know to stay right outside
@Firstkillenthousiaste.
@Firstkillenthousiaste. Жыл бұрын
I think the dialogue between Toriel and Alphys is interesting because Toriel says she’s been worried about Kris lately and Alphys thinks “just lately?” I think that because Toriel is their mother, she can tell the change in demeanor Kris has had since we begin controlling them, while Alphys being only their teacher and not really invested in them just thinks Kris is being their usual weirdo self.
@trondordoesstuff
@trondordoesstuff Жыл бұрын
12:13 There are actually 3 results for Poppups. The others are: * You unconsciously clicked on a popup about "monsters 4 humans" "in your area," * You unconsciously clicked on a popup about demon summoning classes for teens.
@lacabraasada2326
@lacabraasada2326 Жыл бұрын
The first one keeps on the whole "fish out of water" thing, with Kris being human and the rest of their family and the town being monsters. The other one probably refers to when they used to practice occult with Catti
@lowintellecttrash6737
@lowintellecttrash6737 5 ай бұрын
What if the classes worked and we are the demons
@SneakyPeakyLeaky
@SneakyPeakyLeaky 3 ай бұрын
HELL YEAH “demon summoning classes for teens”
@Mudkiprocketship3003
@Mudkiprocketship3003 Жыл бұрын
A few missed moments: -Berdly asking Kris if they want to join him in the "Smartopia" Saying yes has Berdly react to a sarcastic tone of voice, but this much is probably obvious -Kris ACTing a toast to Queen so she drinks away her walls (wait a minute...) Susie comments that they worded it very emotionally, implying Kris seems to enjoy the idea of playing the boxing game with Queen, since they also approach the console of their own volition in that cutscene as well! (I think the passionate delivery of "Perish" earlier might just have been them hamming up their response because they know it sounds overly dramatic, but will advance the plot) -Kris hugging Ralsei for the boat ride photo before fighting Spamton NEO Normally, Ralsei respects their personal space and just says "I'll be right here next to you until you feel better", but if you chose to do the boat ride first with the hug photo, Ralsei takes that as implied consent for him to hug Kris to comfort them when they yell "No I'm not ok". If you choose to believe Ralsei knows when the player is forcing Kris to do something, this can debatably feel a bit icky, but maybe he's just trying not to give away that he knows about the player and acts in an epistemologically consistent way to not raise alarm ("How would Ralsei know what Kris/Player wants?!") Perhaps a separate video going over every last option in Ch2 light world?
@gristen
@gristen Жыл бұрын
im very on the fence about ralsei at the moment. i cant decide if ralsei butters up the player because the soul is what actually has the power to close the fountains and ralsei is prioritizing saving the world over his friends or if ralsei does actually have some secret plan with kris to stop us and he doesnt want us to know about it. theres lots of evidence toward both and its driving me crazy that we have no way of knowing yet
@zigazav1
@zigazav1 Жыл бұрын
About the bunker scene in chapter 2, Susie clearly shows how much she values Kris as a friend, as after the conversation between Snowy and Monster Kid has them talking bad about Kris, Susie steps over to defend Kris, in her own chaotic way: Scaring the two to protect Kris as her friend. Susie may be rude and mean, but as we've seen throughout what we've known ingame so far, Susie clearly cares about Kris allot, but just doesn't always show it in an obvious typical way that most would show how much they value their friend. She expresses it either somewhat passively, or in a chaotic way, as seen at the bunker scene in chapter 2, as well as post-Spamton Neo scene if you force Kris to lie about them being okay, as in that scene, Susie makes some sort of joke in her own way, to help Kris feel better.
@Klui_
@Klui_ Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, Susie may have a very rough exterior, but she's probably the character with the most love to give. She's known the fun gang for barely a day yet would give it all for all of them. The tea is actually an indicator of this, as all 3 of them heal 120 for her. She cares deeply about Kris, and connects with them a lot, it's a very sweet friendship!!
@howdy7455
@howdy7455 11 ай бұрын
Although you’re completely right and she cares about them a lot, after reading Noelle’s blog, I was kind of bothered by their relationship. Noelle states that Kris is « literally getting bullied » by Susie, which implies that her grabbing Kris by the hair and yelling at them is rather frequent. It doesn’t have to be extremely emotional, or take a long time, but I hope in future chapters, Susie will officially apologise for treating Kris this way. Maybe once something really big is revealed about her home life ? Maybe once her Rudeness is down to 50. It would be a big step for her.
@sonshiny
@sonshiny Жыл бұрын
I think Kris said “perish” so enthusiastically to be funny. They are a bit of a jokester especially for weird jokes and pranks like that.
@alexnobody1
@alexnobody1 Жыл бұрын
10:15 Kris is a well-known prankster/troll; I think it makes perfect sense for them to shout "PERISH!" with a ton of enthusiasm. For one, it's just a fun word to say. But also, Queen is pretty obviously framing this question with an obvious answer. Imagine if she'd said "Would you rather be sent to the plane of eternal torment, or get ice cream?" and Kris shouts "TORMENT!!! XD" I think that sums it up pretty well. (not saying your wrong about Kris wanting to die necessarily, but there's other angles to their answer. Perhaps both aspects play into it.)
@lorrainebrunner2490
@lorrainebrunner2490 Жыл бұрын
Very true.
@kross_draws
@kross_draws Жыл бұрын
I think it’s important to keep in mind that Kris is sometimes pretty mischievous and quirky. When they say that gaming is their life in a monotone voice or how they respond at 10:14 to Queen, I could personally also it as sarcasm. If Kris is a weird edgy teen, I don’t think it’s too far fetched for them to joke about wanting to die, you see a lot of the weird kids in middle school and high school saying stuff like that. Also, at 13:45, the part with Noelle and the electric fence, we know that her and Kris have a history together as kids. Annoying Noelle before she gets to the fence and responding to her question about the dog treats feel in line with how two friends might mess around with each other and banter. To me, this genuinely feels like something Kris would do to Noelle, based on what we know of their past. It’s what happens if you almost hurt Noelle while she’s about to past the fence where Kris seems to feel like the player is taking things too far. I’m sure it’s reassuring when Noelle teases Kris back while you try to crossover, but Kris might look hurt because they wouldn’t have pushed things that far on their own.
@Keitoded
@Keitoded Жыл бұрын
There's also some other indicative dialogue in Queen's Mansion if you go to the area with all the different character's search rooms. For all of them you can choose yo peek inside or not, but with Asriel's door, say Yes and it will say something like "You looked through the door with your eyes closed. You saw nothing" which seems to indicate either Kris really doesn't want to look at Asriel's searches AND/OR they really don't want US to be able to see what's there. If you come back with Susie, she also makes fun of whatever contents are in the room, and upon hearing it's Kris' brother, implies she'd tease him a lot for it. Interesting ;)
@cherrytree3400
@cherrytree3400 Жыл бұрын
kinda thought ralsei's post-spamton NEO dialogue might be from him not wanting to think about the whole puppet thing also perish is funny, which is why i think kris likes it so much (funniness is similarly applicable to cheese touching and bed inpection)
@monsieurnugai
@monsieurnugai Жыл бұрын
I would eat bath bombs but they look a bit too dense and dry/powdery, i think if you added a sauce on top or a filling inside it would make them much nicer
@BagelEnjoyer
@BagelEnjoyer Жыл бұрын
That's exactly what Kris would say
@a-morgan-l
@a-morgan-l Жыл бұрын
As someone with dark memories of another fandom with prominent bathbomb eating jokes, seeing people joke about it in deltarune context is so incredibly jarring
@crisis420
@crisis420 5 ай бұрын
*that's what the water is for*
@hi-ougidemonfang
@hi-ougidemonfang Жыл бұрын
I think kris not wanting to hug the ralsei plush could just be them wanting to be seen as cool by Susie. As a lot of characters in deltarune are trying to act in a way that Susie would find appealing. Berdly, noelle, and kris all seem to be that way based on the game and spamton sweepstakes. Kris has been picked on enough by Susie to understand what generally will set her off.
@hi-ougidemonfang
@hi-ougidemonfang Жыл бұрын
Deltarune is a reverse harem and Susie is the main character. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
@BagelEnjoyer
@BagelEnjoyer Жыл бұрын
@@hi-ougidemonfang "Susie is a harem protagonist" is not a take I expected to hear today
@incredibleike9469
@incredibleike9469 3 ай бұрын
Nah, even when Susie bullied them before we were put in control of Kris’s soul they didn’t care and even got some kind of amusement from her relentless bullying with smirking and even quiet laughter. I honestly don’t think they give a shit if Susie makes fun of them
@graysthegray
@graysthegray Жыл бұрын
I feel that maybe Kris just doesn't know Ralsei very well yet. Of course, they could just not like him, but at the same time, we've seen them like Noelle and Susie more and I think that's because they've actually interacted before the dark worlds and have more of a history than with Ralsei (who they've presumably met in chapter 1). Susie seems to grow close to people or be friendly very quickly after chapter 1, but Kris seems far more reserved. I don't really know why we're all really quick to assume Ralsei is a liar, as opposed to just maybe socially inept and awkwardly attempting to understand friendship, or how we assume Kris dislikes Ralsei.
@iamcat1797
@iamcat1797 Жыл бұрын
I agree like I don’t really know how Kris ever implied that they hate Ralsei.
@tulikachatterjee8787
@tulikachatterjee8787 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! I've thought about this for a really long time, its really weird why people immediately assume Ralsei is a liar or that Kris hates him
@ultra824
@ultra824 Жыл бұрын
Yeah more kris character analysis! excellent. This is a really good breakdown, but there were a couple of things you either missed or glossed over: 1: If you choose to "join" when berdly asks you to, kris says it "sarcastically", though it isn't exactly unexpected that kris prefers to remain aligned with susie. 2: i'm going to lump these two together because they get across the same idea; If you refuse "triple trucies" with noelle she reacts like they're joking, and the characters react similarly if you say "she is our enemy". this isn't terribly surprising either, but it indicates that kris wants noelle as an ally. 3: in hometown the option to ask more about burgerpants/pizzapants' supposed girlfriend is "lie and day you're interested", which is probably self-explanatory but nonetheless funny. 4: the dialogue when repeatedly examining the berdly statue suggests that they're taking the opportunity to tease Noelle. 5: there are actually three different ads that kris can click with the poppups. the other two are "demon summoning classes for teens" referencing their affinity for the occult, and "monsters for humans in your area" ...no comment 5: when you try to look inside asriel's room in the dark world, kris opens it with their eyes closed. this has a few interpretations. maybe kris just wants to respect asriel's privacy, maybe they find the idea of looking at it painful for some reason, or maybe there's something in there that kris specifically wants to hide from _us,_ the player. (Susie's assessment of the room could lend support to any of these honestly) there's also a couple thongs you seemed uncertain or confused about that I have some thoughts on. For the cheese, I think they're doing that to mess with noelle, similarly to how they dropped yoshi down a pit to mess with asriel in the past. As you noted on multiple occasions ralsei seems to take kris' answers at face value despite it being obvious to everyone else that they don't mean it. My take on this is that ralsei cares more about the player's feelings than he does about kris'. We can be _reasonably_ sure that he knows about the player since he seemingly deliberately directs our attention elsewhere to talk to kris. This read is also supported by the fact that the thing where ralsei blushes if you stand close to him only happens if his sprite overlaps the part of kris' sprite where the soul is when dodging out of combat, and the soul is our most diect point of contact with deltarune's world(s). As for kris not liking ralsei, it's probably at least partly because they know that he sees them primarily as a vessel for the player, but it could also be that his resemblance to asriel makes them uncomfortable. Another thing supporting kris'discomfort with spamton is that back/exit/cancel options in his store are written as "RUN AWAY" and "ESCAPE". Again, it's a great video, i just wanted to share my thoughts. PS. _finally_ someone other than me notices the kiwami japan reference
@bonni153
@bonni153 Жыл бұрын
About Spamton, a point can be made that Kris actually did care for Spamton, mabye being freaked out at first but actually feeling kinship towards him. There doesn't seem to be hesitation or fear when Spamton tries to take Kris' soul (which is something we know Kris can do, ex: walking back when they meet Spamton, when they see the closet, defending susie from the king, etc.) I think Kris, at least to some degree, did wanna help Spamton, and did actually get hopefull WITH Spamton, just to realize he couldn't be free. I recommend JaruJaruJ's video about spamton, "A Nuanced Tragedy", it's rlly well made and it touches on this topic :)
@GlawiousAldredMarci
@GlawiousAldredMarci Жыл бұрын
I think Kris does not like Ralsei because he thinks of him as an Asriel copy... (which makes sense if Ralsei is a toy modelled after Asriel) Ralsei is so much like Asriel that it just annoys Kris.
@azira6620
@azira6620 Жыл бұрын
On the contrary, I think Kris quite liked Spamton? Or at the very least, were invested in the quest. It's true that they back away when Spamton first talks to them, but when Spamton starts talking about making a deal for freedom, they let him get up close and personal, until his nose is basically touching their chest. It's only when Spamton mentions their soul that they back away again. Also, when you input the disk and nothing happens, you can check a second time. Kris begins to kick and punch it unprompted, like they're very upset that it didn't work. A piece of evidence that is perhaps mor3 speculatory is the 'friends' prompt when talking to Spamton in the shop. This isn't a direct speech line for Kris to repeat, so they could really say anything. A more disgruntled Kris could say 'Don't you have any other friends?', signalling to the player this is against their will. However, Spamton responds as if they said 'are we friends?' This implies that Kris genuinely cares for Spamton, or at least wants to make that deal.
@Phhase
@Phhase Жыл бұрын
I think Kris' feelings on Spamton are somewhere in the ballpark of "morbid fascination". He doesn't like him per se, he probably pities him a bit, and he's absolutely undeniably unnerved by him, but for all that....he can't look away. Something something "he just like me fr".
@Breached18
@Breached18 Жыл бұрын
@@Phhase Kris likes Spamton, but also fears him. Spamton is the only other person who knows what it's like to be controlled, but look at Spamton, he's an insane madman, Kris is terrified he will become that if he doesn't break free
@GFCOLCQuote
@GFCOLCQuote Жыл бұрын
At the option "We can use the computer at home" I always thought Kris would actually say this line, but not because they're being reluctant to adventure... they're just being a smart ass. "We can use the computer at home." Always felt like you'd get that slowly growing wide smile as if to say "Yeah, but we ain't tho." Also I disagree with your view on Spamton. I think Kris _did_ like Spamton, and this combines with your idea of saying *Perish* with enthusiasm. There's a couple of videos on it already, which you may or may not have seen, but aside from the fact that Kris _personally_ respects his wishes of doing things alone without our consent which shows it's something _they want to honor_ there's something else that's really important to note. When Kris is being attacked by Spamton, they don't move at all and simply sit there. When the soul appears to fire, that also is not Kris because _we_ are the ones hitting Z and pulling the trigger and not them. They were wiling to lay there and simply take it, and this leads some (myself included) to suspect that Kris was actually willing to simply _let_ Spamton take their soul. I agree the whole ordeal left them shooketh, but I don't think they disliked Spamton... not entirely.
@MisterLambda
@MisterLambda Жыл бұрын
- Susie would eat a bath bomb. - I would not be surprised if Kris would also eat a bath bomb.
@LiMe251
@LiMe251 Жыл бұрын
Susie tea heals Noelle by 400 hp
@emmettcahill0918
@emmettcahill0918 Жыл бұрын
nah aint no way
@LiMe251
@LiMe251 Жыл бұрын
@@emmettcahill0918 it is true, check
@emmettcahill0918
@emmettcahill0918 Жыл бұрын
@@LiMe251 dang thats funny
@nameman9997
@nameman9997 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say Kris hates Ralsei. Kris sees them as a friend, that they also literally knew for a few hours at this point, that also looks kind of like their brother.
@danield0c
@danield0c Жыл бұрын
10:10 the game says this when you choose the options very quickly, if you take a while to answer, keep switching between the two options, susie will not say that
@NightSprinter
@NightSprinter Жыл бұрын
Another thing about Kris and fluffy boy, is that they're too upset still about Azzy going off to college. Kris was very attached to their adoptive brother, and doesn't want to be reminded of someone that isn't there. I relate to that a lot. I always got upset a lot when my brother always left for college, since I hung out with him a lot before 1992.
@lorrainebrunner2490
@lorrainebrunner2490 Жыл бұрын
Wow. A real life azzy 😹😻🙀
@NightSprinter
@NightSprinter Жыл бұрын
@@lorrainebrunner2490 ha, oddly enough, a lot of my friends said I'm a lot like goatbro.
@moss_floss
@moss_floss Жыл бұрын
Ralsei has said before in chapter 1 “Our purpose - Darkners’ purpose - is to assist them. It’s the only way we can feel truly fulfilled.” And then in chapter 2 “Queen, Think of the Lightners! Aren’t we supposed to make them happy?” So his whole purpose in his life is revolving around those ideals, and it seems to me that that’s *all* he cares about. With that in mind, there’s something else I noticed that really rubs me the wrong way. During the 'yes' option, after Ralsei offers Kris cake (both chocolate and butterscotch/cinnamon) in a way that, to me, feels like smothering, Susie says "well, their stomach's rumbling, but the goosebumps aren't gone" and Ralsei goes "Kris, if you're cold you can share my scarf..." which, with him saying this I don't even think he's considering that those goosebumps aren't from them being cold, *it's from them being scared*. But of course, since he's usually more focused on *not* focusing on what specifically made them upset, and would rather push that aside and ignore it, he goes to the only other thing that goosebumps are related to, *being cold*. And what does he do? What he's supposed to do, try to make them feel better, comfort them with everything in his arsenal, only think about *him*. Except Susie kinda gets in the way of that, by unknowingly doing a way better job than Ralsei does at calming Kris down, and I think Kris knows that, since they’re the one who asks for Susie’s jacket instead of taking Ralsei’s scarf (which I’ve noticed leaves Ralsei kinda confused?)
@someonessecondaltaccount6932
@someonessecondaltaccount6932 Жыл бұрын
Your voice is so calming, I was calling asleep untill I got jumpscared by *"A GAME THEORY"*
@minervoionni36
@minervoionni36 Жыл бұрын
You know I find it very interesting that Ralsei never questions Kris’ tones of voice, even when Susie does It’s almost like he’s trying to hide from you that Kris is a real person Of course, he did do it if you say “no” after the Spamton fight, but that’s probably to keep Susie from being suspicious, since they were literally yelling
@flaviapederzini
@flaviapederzini Жыл бұрын
9:34 it might be that when Ralsei asked if Kris liked videogames he was truthfully asking the player rather than Kris themselves. We know from many of Ralsei's dialogues that he knows they're in a videogame and they know Kris is being controlled by the player so his question might be in reference of that
@motivated2473
@motivated2473 Жыл бұрын
2:18 Well, to be fair, Kris HAS robbed before, like when the big kids asked them to do so when Asriel was still on Hometown, or when Susie and Kris eat all of Undyne's chocolates that were supposed to be for Alphys. I think Kris simply didn't wanted to take something from Asriel without him being there.
@strelitziamystery21
@strelitziamystery21 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure in the Snowgrave route when you meet up with Susie and Ralsei after murdering Berdly that Susie notices that Kris looks scared or something. It's been awhile but there is Kris stuff despite how overpowering the player is in that particular route.
@DvffyX3
@DvffyX3 Жыл бұрын
Im honestly surprised by Kris actually liking and getting along with susie
@L0rdOfThePies
@L0rdOfThePies Жыл бұрын
I disagree. they seem like a good fit
@motivated2473
@motivated2473 Жыл бұрын
Kris is absolutely infatuated by Susie, I don't know why there are so many people that miss how much Kris wants to be with her xd
@egekahraman8985
@egekahraman8985 Жыл бұрын
I think this is a start of another great deltarune theory channel this video is even better than the last one
@egekahraman8985
@egekahraman8985 Жыл бұрын
@@InsertNameHere29 I know but I think they could do good theory videos(not that I dislike this type of video)
@egekahraman8985
@egekahraman8985 Жыл бұрын
@@InsertNameHere29 I know but thanks for clarifying
@trudyyy9395
@trudyyy9395 Жыл бұрын
agreed! they're really great from what we've seen so far and i can't wait to see them progress even further :)
@lyrimetacurl0
@lyrimetacurl0 Жыл бұрын
Though they're out of material now till chapter 3+
@egekahraman8985
@egekahraman8985 Жыл бұрын
@@lyrimetacurl0 you can always make more theories by trying to fill in holes of other theories and nearly every deltarune theory has major holes or a bit of speculation in them
@Krimpsopher
@Krimpsopher 9 ай бұрын
Kris slashing the tires could be related to them wanting to help Undyne with her boredom as a police officer, as well as wanting for Susie to sleep over.
@thirdwheel9938
@thirdwheel9938 Жыл бұрын
Adding to the "perish" dialogue, while there is a lot of comedy in these games (ut/dr) some people tend to forget how many times it touches the subject of suicide, it just does it in such a respectful and non-explicit way that you forget its even there (ex: alphys, chara. what asriel implies when asking frisk why they climbed mt ebott in the first place, etc) Adding the themes of alienation, hopelessness and loneliness we get from kris's character into the mix, it doesn't seem that much of a stretch that they struggle with these thoughts Tldr: even though the perish/bosom dialogue alone is comedy, the topic of suicide is not off the table when it comes to Kris and we definitely can't rule it out just because it's deltarune
@manslaughter3180
@manslaughter3180 Жыл бұрын
No, I don't see the reason why Noelle would be sarcastic in her own thoughts. I am thoroughly convinced that Kris does like dog treats. I like them too. I actually bought a bag for myself as a "snack" when I had to go to the store to get some lettuce for my Guinea pigs, as well as cat food for my rescue cat, several neighbourhood cats and crows. The treats are called Tbonz (by Friskies) and they're great, at least to me. Kris is, in neurotypical language, "unusual". Of course, in actuality, they are just themselves, a bit uncommon, and there's nothing wrong with that. It 100% fits them to try things out like dog food, they appear to be a bit rebellious anyway. Either way, loving the video because of the attention to detail! Excellent improvement in audio volume too! /honest
@icecoldoatmeal6562
@icecoldoatmeal6562 Жыл бұрын
FRISKies undertale
@waffler-yz3gw
@waffler-yz3gw 5 ай бұрын
based off of the way you're talking i assume you're adhd or autistic or something (not saying this as an insult) but i've been sarcastic in my own thoughts plenty before, understandable mistake tho
@brawlfan
@brawlfan Жыл бұрын
Kris says "perish" so enthusiastically because they think it'd be better than being controlled.
@danielvinicius579
@danielvinicius579 Жыл бұрын
I believe that Kris actually wanted to do what Spamton asked, because it's not the player who asks Susie and Ralsei to let him into Spamton's shop and the basement of the mansion alone, the way I see, the reason for Kris staying shocked after the battle with spamton neo is because the two are in very similar situations but there was nothing kris could do besides defeat him
@gristen
@gristen Жыл бұрын
the "gaming is my life" response might be a meta reference since kris's life is quite literally a video game that we are playing. kris might have been trying to throw in a dig against us with the way they said it also i think kris slashed the tires so that toriel would call the police. if you talk to undyne theres an option to tell her about the dark world, which she doesnt believe, and kris even specifically opens the front door almost as if theyre inviting her to come in. its possible that kris wants undynes help in dealing with whatevers going on with them, which i dont blame them after spamton and snowgrave. kris might have even opened up that dark fountain as a way to guarantee the next dark world is on their terms. we have susie who doesnt listen to the player, their mom who will notice if they act strange and refuses to bend her morals, and undyne who is undyne. all of these characters are ones that wont be easily manipulated like noelle was. kris might have turned the tv on because of spamton mentioning tv that one time. they might be more determined to get to the bottom of all of this after seeing what happened to spamton
@JuliusGuruJG
@JuliusGuruJG Жыл бұрын
I love the hindsight you give into kris' reactions! I always enjoy knowing more about the quiet fella, even if it's not "officially confirmed" by toby yet. By the way, in minute 5:20 the automatic captions said "Alpha Centaurio" instead of "Alphys and Toriel" and i just bursted out laughing Hope you get to your first 1k subscribers soon! PD: i like the editing
@StormyDeltarune
@StormyDeltarune Жыл бұрын
Regarding Ralsei's weird response if you say you like gaming it reminds me of some dialogue in the second K.Round fight in which he claims it looks like it's in pain even though it's expression is unchanged. Maybe Ralsei is just really good or bad, I'm not really sure, at reading social ques
@sesgsi
@sesgsi Жыл бұрын
When you spoke about susie threatening to bite kris in half if they don't quit smelling like apples, i remembered that after u use the bathroom in endgame, susie will say something about eating the apple shampoo.
@Firstkillenthousiaste.
@Firstkillenthousiaste. Жыл бұрын
Ralsei is acting weird around the players choices vs what Kris wants and I think I know why. At the start, I found him saying that “The darkners have to serve lightners” to be a little creepy, not because of him but because the idea of people existing to serve others is creepy in itself. I didn’t think much about that though. The think is, I noticed that both of this dark worlds are things people use to entertain themselves. The first is around table games, we can see this through the theme and design of the place and characters (Lancer is a card in Kris’s pocket). The second world is the internet and it is possible that the third will have something to do with television 📺 (because Kris turns it on before creating the fountain) What else has been created to entertain? Video games. Maybe Ralsei is interested in all this to “serve” and entertain the player because Darkners purpose is to serve lightners. I don’t necessarily think he’s going to have some “evil villain” reveal, but he probably thinks this is what he has to do.
@jackeroni216
@jackeroni216 Жыл бұрын
Kris does still play video games occasionally, as Berdly says he's going to play on a "Minecrap" server with them.
@TheGlenn8
@TheGlenn8 Жыл бұрын
Don't eat the bathbombs. As a wise man once said- "I swallowed shampoo. Probably going to die. It smelled like fruit. That was a lie."
@Ketsui.
@Ketsui. 10 ай бұрын
I feel like in the Weird Route, every time we get a new option between literally anything else (i.e: "Sorry, I'll do the puzzle.", "I'm protecting her from you!", etc.) and "Proceed.", it's as if Kris is asking, begging us to stop this, to pick something else, to not continue corrupting their friend. Kris may have an influence on what dialogue choices we get, or if we get any at all, like when Ralsei asks us if we're wondering how Susie and Noelle are doing. If on a Weird Route, we simply don't get to choose to see them or not. On a side note, I'm glad you upped your mic's volume lmao. The previous video felt like one of those memes where someone is speaking very quietly only to get you to turn your volume all the way up to then jumpscare you
@JezElectro13
@JezElectro13 Жыл бұрын
imagine this meme becoming true on final release: People: Video games are bad!!! Me: resetting every time i made Kris say something they didn't want to on my Pacifist Route
@sylvie_loves_frogs4951
@sylvie_loves_frogs4951 Жыл бұрын
i get why kris doesn't like ralsei. don't get me wrong ralsei is my fav character, but imagine how kris is feeling. imagine u go into another world and u meet a dude that is almost the SPLITTING IMAGE of ur dearly beloved brother who is away at college. and this dude is acting,,,, weirdly affectionate towards u. and that the strange god that is controlling u makes u reciprocate these affections when a) you don't know this dude and b) the fact that he looks almost exactly like your brother is,, starting to creep you out. plus they literally JUST MET HIM YESTERDAY. all i'm saying is, kris is understandable
@FishSprite
@FishSprite Жыл бұрын
I think that the piano thing is a reference to how toby fox couldn't play the piano for all of chapter 2's development due to him injuring his wrist.
@deltawarrior2323
@deltawarrior2323 Жыл бұрын
Something about snowgrave is that (as far as I know) it’s the only time where picking an option actually makes kris MOVE. The way spamton talks in his snowgrave route also suggests that this is what kris wants (“you think making [frozen chicken] with your [side chick] would let you drink up all that [freedom sauce]!?” Plus “don’t blame me when your all alone in a broken home wishing you let your old pal spamton [kill] you”) but as other people have pointed out, they also seem to be AGAINST snowgrave in the same time. The dialogue options sound kind of desperate, when they reunite with ralsei and susie ralsei points out that kris looks hurt, they straight up refuse to let you see what’s going on between susie and Noelle (or maybe he doesn’t want to talk to ralsei? They seem to talk about something every time the perspective changes back to them) and obviously, the fact that it says “YOU called Noelle”, meaning they clearly didn’t want to call for Noelles help (probably to not make her worse) Although, something else about the snowgrave route is after the dark world as well, where you talk to Noelle in the hospital. You can move. YOU. by hitting the directional keys. Plus Noelle hearing the “voice that’s unlike kris’s”. It seems to be this weird mix of wanting freedom while your taking control of them even more…or, judging by Noelle… Your reach of control getting bigger then just kris, opening the possibility for you to control other characters as well.
@GasterExplains
@GasterExplains Жыл бұрын
Illuminate still jumpscared me with that game theory bit Also the bath bombs really do be looking like Sherbet or something. And just a random theory to throw out here, but I think KRIS might not like Ralsei / feels neutral because of how much they miss Asriel and how similar they are in appearance. KRIS is a very distant and silent character, who usually spends their time with Asriel who I guess one could say, is their 'best friend' (throwing in an Undertale reference here). But Ralsei may look like Asriel but is not Asriel, and I think KRIS knows that, and it possibly could create a pretty neutral and empty feeling for them even more. Additionally I find it weird that Ralsei is an acronym for Asriel, but is likely not Asriel for two reasons. Asriel is at university and seems to be much older than Kris, meaning they'd be likely and quite noticeably taller sprite wise. And secondly, it is theorized that Asriel, like his father, isn't exactly the best with names. So I don't know how Asriel would form that acronym. But, yet, Asriel also was a room in Queen's castle or whatever--which I find collectively really confusing. It makes me wonder if Ralsei is Asriel's son or something, but without knowing just how old they both are, that could also be an extremely far-fetched theory as well.
@ari638
@ari638 Жыл бұрын
I suspect the bunker is where kris got soul infused, since in the background of that area it plays a very low/slowed version of Gasters theme, and based on manner of speaking it's highly suspected to be Gaster in the opening character design segment
@bradoreman2510
@bradoreman2510 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the "Why do they look so hurt" dialogue when they step off the switch is Kris doing puppy eyes, a reference to the dog joke
@karenk1228
@karenk1228 Жыл бұрын
I wonder as well if Kris’s “how to use magic” was because Ralsei and Susie can use it but they can’t? Then again, that’d have to happen between chapter 1 and 2, so probably not too likely, but that’s what I always thought it might be about
@empiar5481
@empiar5481 Жыл бұрын
Hey so for your audio, it might be helpful to use a compressor. It'll reduce your volume when you're speaking loudly which will help reduce all the clipping (also, a windscreen or pop filter of some sort would help with all the peaks that happen when you say "p" or "b" words), and you can also use the compressor to make your quieter parts more audible. This makes your speaking volume more consistent, which can also help when you try to match the level in another video. Also keep in mind you could always reduce the volume of other clips instead of raising your own! You did a good job with this video and the previous one, looking forward to more content in the future.
@MrAppleSalad
@MrAppleSalad Жыл бұрын
You should really do a "What Frisk REALLY Wants to Say" video. Despite being much more quiet there are quite a few moments in Undertale where Frisk's personality is able to shine through, in how they respond to situations and how they end up doing what you tell them to. For example, in Genocide they walk forward on their own and smile at encounters, though with how many times Undertale shows people smiling to deal with pain I don't think this is out of enjoyment, I think they're terrified. There's also the moment in the True Lab where you tell them to laugh at Snowdrake's Mom, and they refuse, showing that they do indeed have some control over their actions at least if they disagree with you enough. That also might sorta imply that they aren't as aware of the resets as you might expect them to be, as if they knew that they could come back after death they probably wouldn't be quite as scared in the Genocide route. I think they're going along with you because they're a kid and don't know any better, and this situation is so new and scary that they kinda just shut down and let you take control. The stepping forward is probably a fight or flight response. There's a few other good moments, like their tone of voice in certain situations, and even just the general dialogue options presented as some are likely from Frisk's own thoughts, though there's also some Chara in there which muddies things a bit. Since Undertale is a full, complete game, I think theres more then enough there to make a full video on, tho it'd require scrubbing through the dialogue to try and find all the subtle instances of Frisk showing their personality.
@caitrose2198
@caitrose2198 Жыл бұрын
This video is super interesting! I knew that we could infer things about Kris from the way they do the stuff the player makes them do, but it’s cool to see them compiled together. About Ralsei, I think that he’s not really there for Kris, he’s there for *us.* he wants the player to like him and to have fun with the game, while fully disregarding Kris themself. HalfBreadChaos also looked into some really telling things in the Japanese localization. Since Japanese is so particular with its ‘I’ and ‘you’ pronouns, and has so many of them, it’s way easier to infer who is speaking and to whom, and what their relationship is when one or several of those is left ambiguous. For example, Ralsei refers to us as ‘kimi’ which is the friendly and familiar ’you’ pronoun, but also deviates from that in certain instances. It’s pretty neat Also I wanted to say in just the short time between part one and two your video editing has gotten way better, keep it up! :) (and thanks for using Kris’s correct pronouns, I’m nb and it bugs me sooo much when people don’t)
@Seedchan
@Seedchan Жыл бұрын
Massive quality increase between part 2 and part 1, very nicee
@sylvie_loves_frogs4951
@sylvie_loves_frogs4951 Жыл бұрын
tbh this chapter is just letting kris be a little sillay. just doing some hee hees. maybe even a hooh every once in a while
@motomario4603
@motomario4603 Жыл бұрын
I like that you took the time to analize all of this, hope you do it with the future chapters as well!
@bw000m
@bw000m Жыл бұрын
honestly i think they say perish so enthusiastically bc they think its *funny*
@DogDogGodFog
@DogDogGodFog Жыл бұрын
Strange that Toby opted for 'unconsciously' instead of 'subconsciously'
@norbivans9939
@norbivans9939 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. Kris is one of the most interesting characters for me. I really want to learn more about them in the future chapters. Keep up the great work and as always stay determined!
@sagacious03
@sagacious03 Жыл бұрын
3:55 A little disappointing that you didn't show the alternative's dialogue. Anyway, great analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
@D3lta_.
@D3lta_. 8 ай бұрын
" 𝐀 𝐆𝐀𝐌𝐄 𝐓𝐇𝐄𝐎𝐑𝐘 " absolutely killed me 😭💀
@zytrosgrass5170
@zytrosgrass5170 Жыл бұрын
I think Kris was just being facetious with the "Perish" remark. anyway, holy crud your videos are hilarious, nice job!
@LuxioLila
@LuxioLila Жыл бұрын
Yay I’m so happy this came out! Your vids have been very cool, love your content and you’re already growing so much!
@baaaldur
@baaaldur 3 ай бұрын
For the "gaming is my life" option, we do get indications that Kris still plays video games (with Berdly, actually). Kris having a reputation for being a "pro gamer" is something that Noelle seems to endearingly tease them about. Personally I always interpreted that moment as either Kris saying such a grandiose thing in a monotone voice as some dry humor, or them being exasperated with the player for making them say such a lame/embarrassing thing. It's fun to speculate whether Ralsei giving a misleading impression about how passionately Kris said it is a hint that he's trying to accomodate the player's choices, which we get more hints of later, or whether he's just not the best at reading social cues (focusing on the specific words instead of the manner in which they were said), which we also have indications of. For why Kris slashes the tires - wanting Susie to sleep over is the immediately obvious answer, but it also seems relevant that they open the outside door before creating the fountain. It seems possible they might be trying to lure police (Undyne specifically?) into the Dark World. EDIT: I forgot to mention that Kris opening the door also acts as a staged break-in by "the Knight".
@Kardor
@Kardor Жыл бұрын
The video is surprisingly substantive and informative, and your voice is so calming and cute I can't even Please record more of this
@StormyDeltarune
@StormyDeltarune Жыл бұрын
In the scene with Toriel and Alphys I think Toriel is asking that because we are controlling Kris and like Noelle she can tell they are not there usual self Also something else I've never seen brought up is that apparently Kris looks ill which Toriel and I think one or more other characters mention in home town but which could also be why Toriel is asking this although I don't know why kris is sick
@onemoregodrejected9369
@onemoregodrejected9369 Жыл бұрын
Very nice jump of quality from video 1 to video 2, good job
@moomoo361marlow5
@moomoo361marlow5 Жыл бұрын
I'm excited to see content from you in the future! This is far better than I had thought going into it.
@StormyDeltarune
@StormyDeltarune Жыл бұрын
I think Kris may be saying perish enthusiastically because they want to oppose Queen and that could tie into the idea that Queen represents not just Noelle's mother but also Kris and Susie's mums as well. If it is because they want to die then some other evidence for that is that when Spamton proposes Kris give up their soul so that they can 'look into heaven', Kris just kneels down and never actually fights against it but I have always eather took that as they were just knocked down or that they wanted to help spamton by joining him via their soul which may also allow them to excape the player.
@ellamayo9045
@ellamayo9045 Жыл бұрын
I haven’t seen anyone else really go in-depth regarding Kris’ personality, despite there being so many interesting things to talk about regarding their actual thoughts and feelings apart for those of the player. Great vid, the audio was fine btw!
@betzyellow
@betzyellow Жыл бұрын
i watched your first video recently, i was looking forward the next part and im glad to see it happen! i can see you worked very hard and made a big effort on getting it done. i really enjoyed it and i think you did a great job :D i'll be sticking along for any future projects in your channel 👀
@erickwashington3298
@erickwashington3298 Жыл бұрын
Loved the first vid. Second was even better!! Keep up the good work!
@sagacious03
@sagacious03 Жыл бұрын
Excited for this video! Might comment more later! Thanks for uploading!
@Shythalia
@Shythalia Жыл бұрын
Maybe Kris just feels indifferent to Ralsei because he looks like Asriel. It would be really weird to meet someone who almost looks like your sibling or close friend but isn't them.
@GamerNGF
@GamerNGF Жыл бұрын
Super glad to see your second video. You've got an easy listening voice and the video is well structured
@zynxasphinxa7796
@zynxasphinxa7796 Жыл бұрын
I love this video! I haven’t really heard anyone else cover what you mention here. I mean I’ve played the game myself and didn’t know half of this… This was amazing!
@LaurentIpsum
@LaurentIpsum Жыл бұрын
Another video! Hell yeah! Going to watch this right after I'm done with the first!
@xbubblexDude
@xbubblexDude Жыл бұрын
hey there! great video! good job! cool that you found a deltarune topic to talk about, that's not already been talked about to death haha also i like that u didn't delve into crazy theory too much, like alot of these videos tend to do. this gave it a more scientific feel and kept it genuinely interesting to me :) good jokes as well, hell yeah! (inhuman noise makes me laugh everytime!!) just keep the timing snappy, would be my advice. quick deliveries work best in most cases and keep the listener on their toes imo other than that, the audio is definitely a step up from last video so thats awesome, great job! keep using the equipment you have and try to get the best out of it before buying a new fancy mic or something, i think you will learn a lot more this way :) anyways i hope that helps and i didn't overstay my welcome toodles!
@normalpair
@normalpair Жыл бұрын
Good job. The background music made this video better
@annsh.6487
@annsh.6487 Жыл бұрын
TW slight body horror It's a bit unrelated, but when I first played, a chill ran down my spine as I kept dying on the spinning cups that take you up from the basement, over and over. And what eventually conjured up in my mind was an image of Susie and Ralsei getting off the ride, finally, taking a few steps into the dark corridor, then looking back only to see Kris' broken and lifeless body caught in one of the cups, limbs disfigured, skin battered and torn, their head turned at an unnatural angle after countless metal beams slamming into the human's fragile form at full speed.
@lorrainebrunner2490
@lorrainebrunner2490 Жыл бұрын
🤣😆🤣
@Firstkillenthousiaste.
@Firstkillenthousiaste. Жыл бұрын
That’s sad
@exoticdachoo007
@exoticdachoo007 Жыл бұрын
"How to get sans boss fight in undertale" Is now my word for the undertale genocide run
@MeloniestNeon
@MeloniestNeon Жыл бұрын
Loved the first video, and this one is just as high-quality! Good job on the audio balancing in this one btw, much better than the first video. Hope your channel catches on to the algorithm soon!
@DakotaFiles
@DakotaFiles Жыл бұрын
thanks for collecting all these instances in video form! good series.
@mikeythenephilimking24
@mikeythenephilimking24 Жыл бұрын
Excellent Job 👊😎 New to the channel and Can’t wait for more to come
@acorn3810
@acorn3810 Жыл бұрын
I love your video, You're a big Undertale/Deltarune fan like me! Please keep making videos
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