What Kyrie and the Mavs need to do to bounce back in game 3 | ALL NBA Podcast

[@wwes7563]

Tim Legler is the best analyst/commentator.

[@SageTrader007]

Facts. The real JJ 😅

[@calvincambridge4586]

he also lost his money betting on dallas

[@SDesWriter]

This is why this is the only podcast I always watch. Tim sees the same things I do and although it’s not saying Dallas is primed for a huge explosion, it does seem that Dallas’s defense is having as much or more of an effect on Boston’s shooting as Boston is having on Dallas’ shooting. So if Boston isn’t going to suddenly put up a 50% three-point shooting monstrosity, then Dallas has a chance if they just play a little better. You know Luca is going to play big in all these games so it’s just a question of if we see the real Kyrie, and if we can get 3 to 5 big shots from the role-players. All that matters is game 3 and if they finally break out of their slumps and put together a game that drowns out all the noise and all the obnoxious Celtics fans and we finally have a series . If they lose, then they’re just not ready yet.

[@richs00n]

those are just a lot of ifs

[@izzynarvaez1223]

Man, as a California transplant living in Boston, I'd really love for this to become competitive, but I just don't see it. Boston shot less than 30% on wide open threes in game 2 according to Second Spectrum tracking data. If they just shoot their yearly average on wide open threes, which, by definition, Dallas isn't really affecting, then they win the game by 20+ again. I really, really hope something changes in Game 3.

[@SDesWriter]

@@izzynarvaez1223 that number is complete bullshit. It literally means that there was only a defender within 6 feet of the shooter at the time of the shot 11 times in the entire ball game. I’ve got data that says it was 89% WITHIN 6 feet. I’m so sick of this garbage…I’m going to go over the fucking tape myself tonight to see why these numbers are so ridiculously skewed. I know I remember five contested that I recall off the top of my head and two of them were heavily contested.

[@SDesWriter]

@@richs00n 3 to 5 big shots is a lot of ifs in a 48 minute game? From anyone not named Luca, Kyrie, or PJ? Or are you claiming that a guy who averaged 25 points for the last nine years of his career including this year and playoffs is incapable of having a 25 game at home after a couple of outings? You guys are just out of your minds

[@izzynarvaez1223]

@@SDesWriter If you want to go purely by the eye test because you have problems with tracking data, did you personally think that holding Boston to 26% on the 3s given their shot profile in Game 2 was repeatable? It didn't look that way to me upon first viewing, but I haven't rewatched the game.

[@drippington7967]

Smart people with entertaining takes and analysis! 🎉

[@UraStr]

Best in the business, on par with Hoops Tonight...

[@CasualGamer51]

def, both are great

[@smgyro1476]

Nah, Hoops Tonight is A LOT better

[@bennparker2259]

Better. This one is not obligated to talk about the lakers every episode

[@lilcoleslaw]

Hoops tonight is annoying af. Dude thinks basketball is algebra II

[@ColinMarinich]

These guys are more relevant. Jason plays to the big market teams like the Lakers and Warriors which means he doesn't have a balanced point of view.

[@Sundog33]

Legs is the gold standard

[@luisjalvareztorres8481]

You guys are so awesome!!! Off all the podcast that I listen to, this is the only one that I look forward to listening to every single day. Keep up the great job fellas!

[@BasketballJones48021]

Great show yet again, thanks!

[@bobbyroubal]

Tim is a legend. I like this show and NerdSesh.

[@samuelfelix2577]

Hey Tim, given how good Jrue Holiday has been. What made the bucks think they were better off with Lillard instead of Holiday given that holiday was a key piece in their championship year?

[@dutchmastah07]

Lillard “raised their ceiling”, but honestly, Jrue might be just as good on defense as Dame is on offense.

[@bd2378]

Giannis' outside shot has always been a liability in the playoffs. Dame is significantly better than Jrue there.

[@samuelfelix2577]

@@bd2378 he seems to be a good shooter w the celtics. Could it be that Middleton overshadowed him?

[@WordsinSpanishSam]

Jrue Holiday led the NBA in 3PT % from the corner I believe it was 63%

[@yugiisama]

on paper it sounds like a great trade, and to be honest most GM’s would probably take that trade too. obviously it didn’t work out but the idea of having a high scoring guard like Dame who can shoot from 35ft to pair alongside giannis is a great idea which theoretically leads to more space on the floor for giannis to do his thing.

[@jkwalrus9723]

great stuff as always, really cool seeing this show grow

[@iSoul33]

It's looking kinda crazy for the Mavs. I hope they can win the next game and make it a series! I'm rooting for Luka but Ky needs to step it up. If Boston wins I want Jrue Holiday or Jaylen Brown to take the Finals MVP.

[@DunningKrugerJnr]

Luka will deserve Finals MVP even if they lose…dude has been better than every Celtic despite being badly injured…he has at least one Phoenix game 7/Wolves game 5-type game in him and all the haters will go very quiet #soulreaper

[@kelvinlee7351]

@@DunningKrugerJnr nah you can't be that bad at defense and win fmvp

[@juvenal4185]

Tim Legler IS THE BEST ANALYST/COMMENTATOR !!!

[@agmart86]

Best analyst and its not even close, keep up the good work Tim

[@SoloLLC]

Stagnant Offense, no screens, no cutting everyone is just standing watching Mr Dribble.

[@benedictschwarz324]

Would love to see legs talk ball with Jason Timpf from hoops tonight.

[@eldrewski1692]

Legler is just being nice. I won't feel any different 2-1. I expect to drop 1. It's over

[@darrendonovan6679]

Many people are saying Kyrie is due to break out of his slump. Hardly anybody is mentioning that Tatum can go off too!

[@dp2120]

And Derrick white hasn’t had a big scoring game yet either

[@traleroy5625]

Lakers should hire Tim legler instead of JJ

[@diegobromfield]

57:10 😂😂😂 This literally made me laugh. Setting up a whole church and ceremony for a wedding when you haven't asked anybody to marry you yet. Lmao.

[@NigelMohammed-sq3pe]

Can the MAVS incorporate some dedicated post up play for Gafford or more so Luka which could force Boston to send some help defense and open up the floor for the role players?

[@matthewbedient1525]

4 or 5 games. The celtics are better kn the road. Best of luck.

[@jackdu687]

One thing I really don't understand: why are Mavs not playing pick-n-roll more to get lobs for Lively and Gafford? Boston is small outside of KP. Luka is so good at putting people on his back and then throw the perfect lobs. That's a much higher % play then the 1-on-1 difficult plays they've been running.

[@nickbarry7039]

The Celtics are playing Tatum on the bigs to eliminate lobs because he can just switch onto Kyrie or Luka any time they call for a screen, it's way harder to generate lobs off the switch opposed to dropping or hedging the screen

[@jackdu687]

@@nickbarry7039 I agree and thanks for the explanation! I wonder, in the case of having Tatum switched to guard Luka, the man on Lively or Garfford will be small, why are they not capitalizing that? Also, Luka vs Tatum is not a bad matchup, since Luka is mostly only affected by strength not length or speed. Tatum is not nearly as strong as Luka

[@nickbarry7039]

@@jackdu687 very good point about their bigs not exploiting mismatches, i'd guess it's because neither Gafford or Lively are very good at generating their own shots, Lively in particular. Gafford put Tatum in the post a bit and was able to convert here and there. As for Luka, jaylen has done the best job on him but even guys like Tatum and jrue are making him work for his buckets. I think the Celtics are just content with making things tough on Luka and living with everything else. Luka and Kyrie are really the only guys on Dallas who can create their own shots, so I feel as though them having to be efficient in isolation while also generating quality looks for the role players is just too big of a task night in and night out

[@jackdu687]

@@nickbarry7039 Yea I agree with you 100%. Lively and Gafford aren't shot creators, though they do run down to the basket well given the chance. My biggest issue is that Boston puts Horford on guards and Mavs insist on attacking Horford, resulting a pick-n-roll of Luka/Kyrie with Derek Jones instead of Lively or Gafford. This completely eliminates Mavs big men advantage, and then forced PJ and Derek to shoot at the arc not on the wings, where their percentages are way better. I know that Boston did this deliberately but JK did nothing to adjust and basically got out-coached. This is very frustrating to watch 😤 Like you said, Boston plays good 1-on-1 defense and Luka and Kyrie are laboring out there without an effective attacking system...

[@nickbarry7039]

@@jackdu687 Yeah man for sure, I'm a Celtics fan so of course I'm slightly biased but going into this series I liked our chances based on the fact that our complimentary players greatly outmatch the Mavs. Luka is clearly the best player in this series and absolutely insane on the offensive end but he can only do so much.... Mazulla also doesn't get enough credit for how good of a coach he is since he's a bit of an oddball and our roster is stacked. It's far from over though bro, the Mavs can definitely turn things around if Kyrie starts getting 20-25 every night and the role players start hitting their open looks. Game 3 should be a slugfest brother!!!

[@IsaiahB0]

This shit a wrap we tried to tell y’all the Mavs had no damn chance lol we’re just as good without Porzingis, Tatum is about to turn up and we haven’t even played well offensively yet lol

[@mrvhz7]

Porzingis out mostly that’s interesting…

[@Xenferno]

Game 2 would have been a blowout if Celtics shot their average from three and if Tatum looked decent. It's looking like no hope for Mavs

[@carmonajoselon]

That what i just say if tatum start to score it's going to be over 😂

[@Davidstone568]

A super team carrying Tatum. A super star luka trying to carry an average team with no show kyrie

[@carmonajoselon]

@@Davidstone568 dude you contradict yourself , that is the point you need to understand that it's a team sport you can score 1000 point and not win the game . what is the point of that, also tatum contribute 12 ast 9 rebounds and 18 points 😂

[@carmonajoselon]

@@Davidstone568 everyone pick the mavs so i don't think its a super team hahahahha

[@carmonajoselon]

@Davidstone568 david how are you doing my guy everything ok over there 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆

[@Risktaker8300]

Celtics 🧹 💨

[@samuelfelix2577]

Celts in 4-5, these guys just entertaining content right now

[@SuperJoobers]

You’re right, and The same argument they are making for the mavs could have been the same for the timberwolves.

[@manz7860]

5

[@DunningKrugerJnr]

Don’t reach for Vaseline just yet bro

[@chuckleupen]

37:17 good to see you Nick!!

[@reneewilliams5777]

Love Tim Leglers perspective on Caitlin Clark. Diana Taurasi has 5 gold medals and is only on the team to get her 6th, which would be a record 🤦🏽‍♀️she's not as good as she used to be. If you say CC is not one of the 12 best, you could argue DT is not currently one of the 12 best female basketball players either! There's still a chance CC gets a spot as an alternate due to injury. Chelsea Gray is injured and hasn't played yet this season but she's on the team. So we'll see maybe she gets a chance 🤞🏽 if not this year, definitely in 2028 Los Angeles

[@killz954]

Luka taking two shots in the 2nd half when he was scorching in the first half wasn’t the move

[@alexisirreplaceable]

Legler over Smith ALL DAY

[@HC-xk1iq]

I would shoot less 3 pts and attack more the pain.

[@SoloLLC]

Take the ball out of Mr Dribble’s hand and you will see the difference. You saw a brief glimpse of that when Mr Dribble was on the bench…You can’t beat Boston by allowing their defense to setup every time. Dallas can beat this team if they go back to playing TEAM BALL. BALL MOVEMENT is a BIG FACTOR

[@DunningKrugerJnr]

Celtics had the home whistle, can’t see the league letting them get the whistle in Dallas

[@Sbrangers-go5oq]

If the Celts are honest they are going to be SCARED to get TATUM signed to a super max contract cause it will kill their flexibility forever

[@SolomonGrumpie]

I don’t watch a lot of stuff when the Mavs lose cause they just spew BS, lazy takes. I can always trust Legs and Adam to give insightful takes, like really tell me why they lost

[@calvincambridge4586]

you love echo chambers. dont like the truth. lol, celtics in 4

[@SolomonGrumpie]

@@calvincambridge4586 you have to be a dumbass right? I want insightful reasons that my team lost, like actual basketball reasons. Not some “he didn’t want it enough” bs.

[@calvincambridge4586]

@@SolomonGrumpiecope with ur sweep, u probably wont watch anything tonight because you lost, narrow minded.

[@manz7860]

Find somone who believes in you like Legs believes in Luka

[@Kelbonobo]

SERIES NOT OVER UNTIL A TEAM HITS THE 4 GAME MARK!

[@calvincambridge4586]

its over

[@SDesWriter]

OK, if Boston is making them pay for Luka letting the ball handler go, where is the production? Tatum was six for 26 so he’s not making him pay. Boston was 10 for 39 from three and at least four of those literally had nothing to do with Luka or any rotation issues. How difficult is it to track how many points are resulting from Lucas defense? Because Tatum is supposed to be getting 25 a game so if Luka is giving up 20 a game, that’s a net positive. I don’t care what it looks like, I care what the actual consequences are and if it’s leaving him more energy to play offense where Dallas desperately needs him.

[@SojiFro_0]

I don’t believe in Kyrie.

[@Ranblv]

me neither. he will lose a lot of all time ranking if he continue to collapse on the biggest stage of the sport.

[@DunningKrugerJnr]

Adam is lowkey not a Luka fan, not sure why but it’s been there all season

[@DunningKrugerJnr]

Prime example… Luka has been way better than any Celtic in first two games despite playing a lone hand in losing sides Adam: Tatum is my bet for Finals MVP 😂😂😂

[@calvincambridge4586]

@@DunningKrugerJnrbecause luka is about to get swept. he plays no defense

[@SoloLLC]

No Damn Small Ball, Boston will eat their azzzes alive. We need a BIG in at all Time. Kai needs to run the offense and Mr Dribble needs to post or go wait in the corner. DL haven’t been getting good Lob passes , but he’s getting the defense and offense rebounds. Those sorry lob passes from Mr Dribble…come on guys stay Honest

[@kirkeholmen]

Mavs will unquestionably win the first home game. Probably the second one too.

[@calvincambridge4586]

they are getting swept

[@rayndeigh]

Totally wrong on the jealousy aspect of adding CC to team usa. Remember the first time lebron played in the Olympics for the US? Everyone refused to pass to him bc they were jealous and didn't think he belonged and they lost. The same thing would have happened here. Christian laetner was on that team bc they were required to include a college player. That's the only reason.

[@supremesetokaiba5517]

Mavs are about to win the next 3 games and then close them out in Boston in a game 7 showcase honoring your new NBA 🏆 #Mavs 💙 🤍

[@tuna.warrior365]

lmao

[@bobbye4369]

Here's what' I'm hoping for: LLWWLWW. Fingers crossed...

[@IsaiahB0]

Tim wants the Celtics to lose so bad you can just hear it lmao I never knew he was a Celtics hater until recently

[@alexisirreplaceable]

Not Tatum nor Brown, but the help who will keep winning games for Boston. 1st was Porzingis, then Holiday. Game 3 probably will be White.

[@SoloLLC]

Dallas Beat themselves in G2

[@PiimS23]

Mares is so hot

[@carmonajoselon]

😅😂😢😅😅😅😂😂😂 This is fun in here, if tatum pick up the slot and to scoring it's going to be over for real 😅😅😅

[@manz7860]

Play defense.

[@tuna.warrior365]

mavs are cooked

[@el_m4ver1ck50]

Cooking*😛

[@calvincambridge4586]

@@el_m4ver1ck50getting swept*

[@sgoody334]

Cryrie will use every excuse possible. But try to sound like he’s not. Making excuses. Yelling at the crowd in the first quarter when you hit a couple of shots versus the end when you got shut down. What was your excuse when you had KD and the beard???? For Swept Luka is Dallas only hope

[@dennispinette3456]

Boston has the superior defense Do you believe that this will change now at any time in this series?