What LEGO got WRONG About the Optimus Prime Transformers Set [10302] [4K]

[@OptimusNiaa]

I like that he's transformable, as opposed to being a 2-in-1 re-build. And so I'm ok with the design compromises that come with that.

[@jaydonmagan4694]

Yeah, this is definitely better than having to take it apart and build it into something else, especially with its part count. Now, I will say that the compromises that exist could have been fixed if the Optimus was made at a larger scale and included more bricks, but then it would be more expensive, so take that as you will.

[@shiverfan4867]

Plus it would be repetitive and annoying to rebuild him in 2 modes, fuck kreo

[@xGhostCat]

Totally disagree on the 2in1 viewpoint. The main selling point of this set is its a rare time when lego has made a actual transformer not a partsformer!

[@TommyCBricks]

this set has parts- forming anyway though... i know the 2in1 point is controversial but I do think it would of improved the look of the set

[@rundownpear2601]

@@TommyCBricks nah

[@xGhostCat]

@@TommyCBricks The only parts form is a single tile though!

[@Gzilla313]

@@TommyCBricks I agree with you about it being better as a 2-in-1. When I get it I'm going to put Prime in robot mode in a display cabinet and likely never touch again. It's cool that it can transform, but it's not a feature I'm going to use often, if at all, so being the best static model it can be is more desirable. Either way, excited to have a G1 Optimus Prime!

[@Sharky_0456]

exactly. the kreo sets suck and i wish i could have had this earlier. better late than never though

[@aaronstallings4996]

As a transformers fan, no way would I want a 2 in 1 set. This thing transforms and is lego, that is more than enough to satisfy. Also, have to played with G1 figures because this robot mode is very G1 toy. That is the charm

[@nathantruesdale4136]

Agreed on this view, One of the things I think is nice about this set is that they've homaged both the G1 animation AND the 1984 toy (not to mention the original Marvel Comics realisation), which was blocky and angular in a way that the animation literally smoothed over. I reckon TLG have completely hit their target market here: adults who remember the toy and animation the first time round and who are now old enough to enjoy the nostalgia, and have enough dispoable income to indulge this nostalgia. It's almost a period piece! The emotional impact of TF:TM (1986) on so many young boys means this image of Prime (and there have been many) is seared into our brains even 30-odd years later. THat's a very powerful piece of marketing. And, especially if you're not into Bayfornersm this is a delicious throwback to a really wonderful period and they've cracked it for those of us who are 40-something now :)

[@armp1tthenormalguy176]

also fun fact, the person who designed it used to work at hasbro, specifically with transformer toys.

[@thehenribrix1330]

I basically 100% disagree with the overall bottom line of this review, but I do think it's a positive addition to the discourse that someone is making a video that focuses more on the negative aspects of the set. A variety of opinions is always good!

[@repticare101]

who asked u?

[@THGMR-ox7sd]

@@repticare101 what’s the point of the comment section then? No one asked anyone to comment on the video

[@repticare101]

@@THGMR-ox7sd exactly 🤌

[@ChristianJayTheCTrain]

@@THGMR-ox7sd those comments are usually spam bots. Hence the unrelated response back to you

[@Benjamin0119]

I completely disagree with having it be a 2-in-1 build and not being able to transform. I wouldn't have bought it, if it couldn't transform, and I really don't get the point of the non-transforming Transformers figures. It completely defeats the purpose. I wouldn't buy another Hasbro Prime because I already have the G1 Prime, Classics Prime, 1st movie Prime, and the first Masterpiece Prime, plus Transformers are so ridiculously expensive now, they make LEGO look like a bargain. The basic $10 Transformer is friggin $30 now. Mine should get here tomorrow or Wednesday. I will see for myself at that point how janky it is. I don't get the complaints about the shaping, since this is how Optimus actually looks. G1 characters are very boxy, especially Optimus himself. LEGO has made military planes before, with them being "generic" and marketed as "stunt planes." The Transformers jets all have these sort of colorful stunt plane color schemes, so they might able to work. Blitzwing maybe not, since his tank mode is mostly tan with just a little purple, and a triple changer would be really hard to make in LEGO. They might be able to make Megatron due to it probably being obvious a LEGO gun isn't a real gun, or adding an orange tip we can switch out for gray or black parts from Pick-a-Brick or Bricklink lmao. Soundwave though would definitely work. I don't think minifigs would be scale to Optimus, and there's obviously nowhere to put them in the truck, anyway. I like the axe and Matrix accessories since they remind me of my Masterpiece Prime. Anyway, as a lifelong Transformers and LEGO fan nearly as long, this is a dream come true, and I can't wait for my set to get here.

[@Andrew-se4tg]

Agreed 👍

[@cameronjordan1226]

Yeah I got an soundwave that didn't transform for Christmas and still haven't opened it because of the main function of transformers not being there it is literally just an action figure

[@superlbc]

Completely disagree with the review. If you were leading the project, you may have to consider way more fronts than you think

[@paulozavala3232]

I dont endorse this review! This is a must have! And a Transformer that dont transform? No thanx! This is a incredible build!

[@godrxys3389]

I need this set, the transforming feature is enough for me. This also makes me seriously want more TF characters like Bumblebee, Megatron and Starscream Also I wasn't expecting to see a Jobby video when you mentioned Soundwave at the end

[@crocer1764]

lol same on the jobby

[@bflippsytrance]

I have a fully transformable and minifig compatible Star Scream and BumbleBee and my own version of Optimus prime in a video called LEGO Transformers masterpieces on my channel. G1 accurate. They fully transform as in the cartoon.

[@godrxys3389]

@@bflippsytrance that actually sounds really cool! I might have to go check those out!

[@madcrx3070]

I notice a lot of lego fans / creators say they would've liked 2-in-1, but as a transformers fan, I can tell you thats the last thing we want. We've waited so long for an actually transformable brick-built transformers figure, and have been making MOCS capable of it for over a decade.

[@gcd1569]

its a fucking transformer its so god dam cool

[@Bertiee]

Your points are perfectly valid, however I think the issue is the way in which you're approaching the set. You appear to be viewing it as two individual models and neglecting the fact that it can transform, which is one of the main sellling points of it. I'm getting the model next week and when my kids and visitors see it I'm not going to be saying "well they could have done better with x, y and z" I'm going to be saying "LOOK, IT TRANSFORMS!"

[@jmurray1110]

Plus unlike actual display models it looks abscond ehike still being playable I know sone do like the UCS gun ship but there’s no way in hell that’s being okayed with (especially since it can be syier fragile in places and broke when I first tried to display it)

[@victorhernandezserrano7865]

With all of its flaws, and I’m totally aware of them, I still love the fact that you can actually transform it, I know they’re are great quality brands, like unique toys, but man, this blows my head, I know it’s not perfect, but still deserves all my respect because when you build it you can feel the effort from the designer, and maybe the next one is going to fix the flaws of this, in my opinion it’s a great set, not perfect but I love those flaws, it makes it feel natural

[@syweb2]

9:15 Soundwave would make a _perfect_ set. He's a blocky robot that transforms into what is essentially a _brick,_ and he could have a neat gimmick where his chest can store brick-built cassette minions.

[@TripleHakim2]

It would be interesting on how would they tackle on building Ravage and Laserbeak

[@angylizard9344]

The thing is that it’s still a display piece but it’s also almost identical to the original toy

[@davidwilson8550]

Well, I have the same feeling about the problems like snapping off the torso and the joints not being tuff enough to keep the arms up with weapons in hand. The fact that it can transform is very nice but I think there are some flaws that can be fixed

[@matoro4140]

to be honest. prime doesn't NEED a minifig (mainly because nobody cares enough, frankly most people dislike the human characters) lego and knees just don't mix very well. he would just topple over. as someone who owns two kre-o sets, that would be a bad move as both the sets I own fell apart just...existing. plus with the supply of extra parts that don't get used in the sets leads to lost bits. your issue with the back of his waist...did you try splaying his legs a click? harping on prime just seems unfair when you mention voltron and not mention the design compromises with that, you could make a video on voltron with almost all of the same talking points with that figure.

[@jaydonmagan4694]

I mean, the only type of joints that could be used for knees on this figure are the LEGO ratchet joints. But if not carefully applied, they’ll stick out like a sore thumb given their shaping .

[@jmurray1110]

I think a minifigure could have been good By that I mean make a minifigure optimus as well to stand on the stats board If we do get a spike then that needs to be in the bumblebee set

[@RobMacIndoe]

I wouldn't have bought this kit if it didn't transform - I've never understood the appeal of non-tranaformable Transformers - it's the whole point of Transformers - an ingenuity that's absent from your average action figure. Lego Optimus is a fantastic copy of G1. Building it took me back to the 1980s. There's no denying it does have some solidity issues: the neck; the loose torso rotation; his glass hip below his spine rod; brake lights tend to loosen and fall off in robot mode; arm joints are loose. Perhaps these areas could have been improved before it was released, but I think overall having a G1 transformable Prime made of Lego is an amazing feat and was the right choice.

[@97legomaniac]

odd how the arms are super floppy because mine are fine. I can also puff his chest without changing the wedge piece. Also I highly disagree making it a 2 in 1. yes if I want an opimus prime figure that can transform, I can buy the hasbro toy but I bought the lego one that can transform SPECIFICALLY because it is lego and can transform.

[@NeomDrac]

Optimus is a bulky boy it never bothered me.

[@masonyoung7834]

I love this set I think any mods just make it look worse and any mods that remove its transformation is pointless in my opinion

[@anakinskywalker4325]

YOU'VE GOT THE TOUCH! YOU'VE GOT THE POWEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@wispywhitesmoke]

just gonna say, love that you referenced JobbyTheHong, cant wait for him to review this if he ever does

[@soundwavejr]

Would have been nice if he’d been credited…

[@wispywhitesmoke]

@@soundwavejr definitely, but still

[@christianflor1394]

As a child I was always trying to make lego transformers, but all I could manage was parts-formers. If this set didn't transform, I would not have bought it. It's a dream come through for us 80's kids.

[@mrsirdba]

I grew up with the Kreo 2 in 1 sets and while they were fun the fact they were so complicated to "transform" usually meant they became scrapped pieces after building the statue part. This set feels like a first step and I whole-heartedly believe they can make more transforming LEGO sets which ive wanted for as long as I can remember, especially from LEGO instead of the many, many off-brands. Similar to the first line of Transformers being very flawed, i imagine as Hasbro and LEGO work together more and more, the sets will lose the jank and after some time, we will eventually get a "Masterpiece" style lego transformer

[@SkelenbyStudios]

90% of the comments are talking about the lack of posing ability but.. it’s based off the original optimus prime toy, it didn’t have much as far as that’s concerned anyway.. i don’t believe any of the gen 1 toys did

[@TommyCBricks]

alot of people are making the mistake in saying "it’s based off the original Optimus prime toy", its not, its still based on Optimus from the show hence why i say in the video the model still looks a bit boxy compered to Prime in the show, it used the original toys transformation as inspiration hence why the Lego model has the same problems has that OG toy

[@topochijo]

I wouldn't have bought this if it wasn't able to transform. I love it and glad they made it.

[@RansomFern]

Soundwave… of course! Why didn’t I think of that, oh god they can use the same face plate too

[@TommyCBricks]

Indeed :) really looking forward to your Optimus though!

[@Gzilla313]

Devastator would also be great. 5 minifigure scale construction vehicles that combine into a huge robot.

[@jmurray1110]

While devastator would be awesome I don’t think they have enough black magic to make combiners yet

[@CC-Sixes]

I asked for this two days ago, got a response yesterday, and the gift delivered today. Thank you for the video Tommy! :)

[@o.8.p149]

I am happy with this prime and I’m happy it’s not kreo style

[@HereAlex]

If they make a ton of “repaints” with this guy I’ll laugh so hard

[@superomegaprimemk2]

I can see three repaints for this: White (Ultra Magnus), Black (Nemesis prime), purple (SG OP)

[@jmurray1110]

Just wait til the starscream set

[@soundwavejr]

Can’t wait for this set to arrive! I have been a life time Lego and Transformers fan so to see them finally ‘combine’ feels like something truly special. It was a gut punch to hear you disregard the transformation as it’s always been the core of Transformers as a whole since they were Diaclones. Optimus was a Toy before he was a character and it would have been pointless to release a Lego Optimus who couldn’t preform his main play feature. Also as a final note using clips other from KZbin creators in your video uncredited is disappointing to say the least.

[@Sharky_0456]

yeah the kreo sets suck and i never got them as a kid because i had standards even back then

[@cameronjordan1226]

I had kreo starscream as a kid and he was okay to me at least

[@Joramee]

Disagree on the 2-in-1 idea. This would have lost me. Being able to transform is the selling point for me, I don't mind the jank.

[@ZuhairRao]

I feel like the g1 design is too simple to not attempt to make it transformable, it would get them too much flak

[@mr-fh2be]

I am all for Soundwave as a Lego set. He is as iconic a Transformer as Optimus and Megatron. To quote the Con's spymaster himself "Soundwave superior.".

[@jmurray1110]

I ajj kg do hope it opens the doors more smaller casseticons with laserbeak and buzzsaw properly tabbing into him

[@For891]

“ if someone wanted a transforming toy they would have bought a transformer”. You could say that about a lot of “adult” lego sets like the globe , typewriter,etc.

[@optimascrime5235]

Got it recently....I'm so happy because I've always wanted to set ever since I was a kid and now finally got it

[@eugenechun4565]

whooaaa just my 2c here but I probably would not have considered getting this if it didn't transform. As a transformers fan I'm more impressed by the engineering that went into making this transformation work with Legos than absolute fidelity to the robot mode details.

[@samjeunnette5904]

I agree that he leans forward too much unless you lean him back. I just built mine, and it is nowhere near as weak as yours seems to be. not sure why that is

[@ScorpionFlame6]

well after watching your video i can safely say, i want this i want this so much it looks perfection and i hope Lego does more of the bots later on

[@Meemstation]

Two videos in two days! Well done!!

[@giocoby]

I 100% disagree with you on the 2n1. As a TF fan I think Lego engineers did a awsome job on this.

[@irontownpictures9283]

6:42 also in the Transformers lore there are so called "Monoformers" (or Action-Masters, as they were called in the 90s) - transformers that lost or gave up their ability to transform

[@Danse_Macabre_125]

I still prefer the DeLorean, but honestly, THIS is the best System truck set in the last half a decade at least

[@Benjamin0119]

How many large scale System trucks have been made since Model Team went away?

[@Z4kkkkkkk]

i am the 6th view also i love ur vids and cant wait for the statue of liberty battle moc

[@Z4kkkkkkk]

i also know this is very off topic

[@halogamerghost97]

Apparently someone made a moc for this that’s Optimus Prime’s truck trailer

[@nterratory9452]

Perfection Transforms like the G1 toy

[@minibloke4901]

I think itd be cool seeing all the main g1 characters (I'd definitely get a shockwave, soundwave or grimlock figure) and maybe even a few beast wars (frankly I just think a lego waspinator would be great)

[@thepierogigaming5489]

Tbh I really like the lego Optimus Prime and hope they make more characters like Megatron or Bumblebee

[@r.p.4531]

6:00 i think you have a copy with a defect i have never seen lego ratchet joints to be so lose

[@AT1754]

I agree when I first saw the release pictures of it I was thinking it just seems off. It’s cool. I like that it transforms, but it seems like it was rushed out. I’m like you it could’ve been a lot better. But it’s Lego and I know there’s limitations. Especially if they want it to transform

[@travissawatzky5205]

Instead of "omgosh lego did this" we got this...

[@ARDIZsq]

They tried to kill two birds with one stone, but they only killed one and crippled the other. But anyway, now that we have Voltron and a Transformer, I hope we get some more giant robots in the future. I'm hoping for a Gundam and an Evangelion. (mostly the Eva)

[@ShortRound42]

Nothing they did was WRONG. It was the only way to make it transform AND simultaneously be 'sturdy' enough to transform and for kids to play with.

[@titorobot2711]

I think this set’s target are Transformers fans, those who are collectors. That’s why they used the G1 design, thanks god. And I think they have succeeded, this set’s bring a lot of non lego fans to buy this very expensive set

[@tylerfox2549]

I can’t wait to see a mod video for this set I think it would make soo much cooler, great video as always

[@jayquanvo5134]

The only CON of this is the fact he didn't have knees. The small design issues like the waist piece tabbing on to the Hip; Hip swivel; the hands; don't really turn me off the figure. Lego, especially with complex structures like Optimus, is generally a bit delicate anyway. Otherwise its a wonderful figure. A transforming Lego Figure thats something that most of the Lego sets just don't do. I would be less impressed if it didn't Transform. Anybody can build a free standing Robot with their own Lego pieces, but a Transforming one. That's something else entirely.

[@crazynerd2009]

I would personally never buy the set if it was a 2 in 1. I love the way it is, and this is perfect.

[@baku5127]

I don’t even care about all it’s flaws. it fuckin transforms! LEGO’s first attempt at a transformer!

[@jamesrosengrant8675]

Solid video, but I 100% disagree on the transforming opinion. The very first thing I said when I head this was announced was "Will it be able to transform?!?!"

[@fuadgamer9043]

Ayy i noticed that jobby's not-soundwave review

[@grecoangelo4]

The set is nice but lots of quality issue on the joint , especially on the core part with the pins where the legs are connected to . After along few weeks on my shelf this has become loose and breaking when going trying to transform. Very disappointed

[@xavierwalko4175]

Mod ideas: - Spike minifig - Bumblebee? - Trailer (with the abuilty to do a Armada style Super Mode) - Knees - More detail?

[@SilverBlazer565]

Yeah like come on quit with the negatively toward the first lego transformers set. Maybe Lego will learn challenges to solve with more Lego Transformers sets skill levels.

[@ds_madking678]

2 years later and they re all problems i dont have like just spread is legs a lil and his articulation is fine also the hip articulation is "hindered by MOVING PARTS and for the breaking and unposable ellbows i just dont have that problem

[@MetaldrummerElia4370]

Could you do a 10 mods video like you did with the delorean?

[@TommyCBricks]

;)

[@lukeevans6070]

Whats the music that starts at 2:35?

[@jacksondocking704]

I don’t know if I did something wrong while building my Optimus but for some reasons the arms on mine are really strong while wielding his weapons and the don’t sag down. Obviously not complaining though.

[@jmurray1110]

Mine can sag a bit with the axe but it’s likely he just didn’t properly force the ratchets together

[@bryantsparks5349]

Can you do a six episodes of Ninjago Gardens like the daily bugle I really want

[@varuhash50]

I personally though it was a very nice set, the modes were very accurate to G1 Optimus and the actual transformation is exactly the same as in the cartoon. People have been making MOCs of Lego Transformers for years and there has never been such an accurate yet simple figure of a Lego Transformer. Most on the Internet are either simple but inaccurate and small/poorly designed because of its size, or theyre very accurate but have to be a lot more compact and complex (see Aranobilis98, they make amazing and accurate but very complex Bayverse Transformers). Lego was able to find a way to make it large, accurate in all 3 ways, incredibly simple to transform, and all at the cost of simple knee joints and blockiness. In fact, even THATS accurate! The original G1 Optimus was very blocky, mostly just squares and rectangles.

[@Krshna28]

Classic transformers toys are not very posable and have very little articulation. I also think that they'll be many more people questioning a non-transformable Optimus Prime Lego. I don't think Lego had any other choice and have to deal with the drawbacks that all classic transformers toys have. I would live a G1 Megatron but that'll probably never happen. My next pick would me Soundwave He's one of the best characters and a Lego set would be mean that it should come with some transformable cassettes.

[@jmurray1110]

If they make megatron I hope the fact it’s Lego can get up back the walther P38 I understand why they moved him to a tank but if he’s not a gun then he’s not G1

[@rramos3948]

After getting the Optimus Prime I wish I just got a regular figure.

[@braden_tmoore]

this is a model meant to recreate the toy.. that transforms.. out of lego. its the point.. and its amazing..

[@bflippsytrance]

I have a fully transformable and minifig compatible Star Scream and BumbleBee and my own version of Optimus prime in a video called LEGO Transformers masterpieces on my channel. G1 accurate. They fully transform like in the cartoon.

[@fortheloveofgodlaugh2981]

The fact that this transforms is nice but really not that impressive. We've had transforming toys for over 40 years at this point of so many shapes and sizes. This collectible mostly exists just to be "LEGO Optimus Prime"

[@Gamingdude1618]

Awesome 🤩👍⭐️👏😎💙❤️⚡️😱🥶

[@Spider-Manfan392]

Could you build a figure like spike or other human characters

[@othermiguel852]

Why are u mand handling this bro, it's supposed to be for display purposes, but hey you do you

[@Springboi9832]

Do you plan on making mods for this set

[@Mr_Tux794]

Hopefully we will get a mod video for this guy, he's the first collectors kit I've gotten

[@nerdsoftheherd69]

I’ve seen a lego optimus way smaller with better poseability and it’s as solid as an action figure

[@dmonsef]

This could have been better designed. We all know too well how LEGO has some strange final decisions made on some of their sets before final release. Case in point with LEGO IDEAS. Too many times the original designers entry is better designed than what LEGO decides to release as the final product. It's almost to the point that LEGO just has this arrogance of how designed sets need to be. The Optimus Prime set could have had folded in tires in robot mode. They did it on the Back To The Future Delorean set. Pose ability was not factored in much. I don't see much excuse that they couldn't put bendable joints in the knees for Optimus(those saying there would be less balance, I say just put small pieces on the back of Optimuses feet since he would lean back more). If modifications by LEGO fans are better than the original design, does that say that maybe LEGO are putting in some minimal effort and still getting maximum profit? Even before the price increases, LEGO was still charging too much on sets that most definitely could have had better design on what was being paid by the consumer.

[@prismstar438]

I don't care if you're a Lego consumer first and foremost, but if you're gonna disregard the very thing that the Transformers are known to do, then I don't know what to say.

[@jkliao6486]

I like this because it reminds me of the mp-01. Simple, but very effective.

[@jaketeske6665]

I like it fine. It transforms and it’s Lego!

[@juan8837]

you should do a 10 moc upgrades with this like the fixing knees or mores accessories

[@flamedude6849]

Huh, my figure in any mode hasn't fallen apart, maybe you're not tabbing it correctly

[@clockwork3494]

8:55 Considering the leaks earlier this week, I (respectfully) think this comment aged like milk. Bee will come in around 90 USD at 950 pieces and able to transform like Prime despite clearly being smaller and in-scale

[@KingKRinge99]

Hmm I don't think he's supposed to be in scale with things like DeLorean or the Ecto, he feels more like in scale with normal lego scaled cars

[@ZuhairRao]

Die hard transformers fan but there's a reason why Im passing on this for now

[@acorn1217]

Its one of the most fragile sets I've ever held 0/10

[@wall-martspider-man4701]

Lego gotta hire Aronabillis98 to make the transformer builds

[@UngerTime]

Great, honest review!

[@TommyCBricks]

Thank you that means a lot :)

[@jamesrader3329]

There's a site that does sell the trailer.

[@Dendensr]

Yes I like this set for it resemble the g 1 series where the legs don't bend and foe bumble bee one KZbinr made a bumble bee in scale with the lego prime.

[@diegoleonelreyes]

We need mods on the transformers set

[@marcusmemelord5589]

Make a mods video on this

[@TommyCBricks]

;)

[@IronKnightPrime]

I have the same problem as you because as flawed this set is I still want and love it because I love G1 Optimus

[@craigjkb]

Would loved the trailer also with the kit. Hopefully they will be able down the road.

[@plushmaster2i443]

Will you be doing a mods video?

[@oidbrando4740]

this does have more articulation than the g1 optimums prime the g1 op had no leg articulation and did not have that good of articulation on the arms