What makes a METALMIX great? (feat. Jens Bogren and Warren Huart)

[@KohleAudioKult]

How do you like my guests? Let me know!

[@sixstringalliance4417]

You're the best interviewer! Great guests!! Love Warren's channel and Jens is a badass!

[@timbrown7652]

Ja! More!

[@SpeakersAsylum]

Both fantastic men! this will be fun!~

[@MartinvonBargen]

Two really solid guests. No BS, just good chat and plenty of knowledge being shared.

[@magnuswegren7204]

Awesome! Really interesting! Skål!

[@Bogren.Digital]

Thanks for the chat, Warren and Kohle! Good times hanging out \m/

[@KohleAudioKult]

Absolutely! Thanks Jens! 🍺❤️

[@Producelikeapro]

Great times Jens!

[@Producelikeapro]

Great times!! Wonderful to hang with you guys and talk Metal Mixing!

[@KohleAudioKult]

Very happy to finally have you on my channel Warren! ❤️🍺

[@Bogren.Digital]

A pleasure! Let's do that again some time.

[@Producelikeapro]

@@KohleAudioKult fantastic! Finally!

[@Producelikeapro]

@@Bogren.Digital definitely! Let's do more!

[@timbrown7652]

@@KohleAudioKult great collaboration!

[@blacksaltscotland]

04:55 In flames with the re-recording

[@erikkroll2154]

So glad Warren teamed up with you guys. Been watching him the longest but I am more of a metal fan than the stuff he does.

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much Erik! Yes, these two guys are the best ion the business!

[@KohleAudioKult]

We're gonna come up with a lot of cool stuff together!

[@Producelikeapro]

@@KohleAudioKult yes, wee are!!

[@jensloetzsch]

I can listen to Warren every day ! His knowledge and experience and especially his way to tell us this is so great !

[@Producelikeapro]

@@jensloetzsch you're very kind!

[@RyRyTheBassGuy]

Jens is talking about the CLA mix of the re-recorded Clayman tracks, right?

[@sixstringalliance4417]

Has to be!

[@seanmakessound]

That's immediately what I thought of.

[@RambowMusik]

Oh wow, i didnt knew they had re-recorded 4 songs. They feel like a cover from a school rock band. I love in flames, but like Warren sad, they just lack "Attitude".

[@chrismonaut]

100% yes :D

[@destructivedaz]

Didnt even know he had done one of their Albums. Which one was it?

[@Jazzguitar00]

Anytime Jens is talking, I listen. His productions with Between The Buried Me and Extol's 2013 self titled are incredible.

[@Anders01]

Interesting point Jens mentioned about not boosting the low end too much. Tricky balance I guess between too weak and too much low end, and also how to get clarity and at the same time a full sound.

[@peevee605]

Jens Bogren is the one guy I wish I could work with. Great session here, I really appreciate it. And Jens' IR packages are great.

[@metatron333ascension]

Jens IR's in the Jeff Loomis amp sim is amazing. As far as the mix i had a problem with getting the drums right. specifically in a couple spots the snare sounded like as if it was velocity problem. When i added the sample i did take out the bottom mic and i made all the velocities on the snare the same. That fixed most of the problems but i hear it in a couple spots still.

[@RÅNÇIÐ]

Big Bogren fan. Another one with Frederik Nordström or Andy Sneap would be awesome too.

[@destructivedaz]

I like the idea and i agree it would be awsome and interesting (Y)

[@timbrown7652]

Thanks to you, Jens and Warren for the great mixing competition!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks Tim!

[@CayenneTravels]

Please do this collab again, this was a really great show. Thank you!

[@Producelikeapro]

It was a huge amount of fun!

[@pianoatthirty]

I rarely listen to these kind of hour-long open discussions, but wow... such a focused video with so many great tips. Thank you!!

[@Producelikeapro]

It was Sio much fun to do!

[@almavieja3219]

Warren Huart, always just as humble as knowledgeable. This world needs more people like him. A true master.

[@Producelikeapro]

Wow! Thanks ever so much

[@ferreirasdamage]

That conversation we needed. Great job Lads \m/

[@Vanes-NL]

Learned some cool things that i'm gonna try on my next mixes

[@DreamTroll]

Pleeeeease do this again!!! How about a regular feature ; ) I can listen to you 3 talk nerdy music stuff all day!!! We DEFINITELY need to see more of this kinda thing from Jens! ...Cheers/PROST!!!!

[@goatsurgeon]

And I love your friends! Especially Jens, there! I’m looking forward to getting his new lead IR pack!

[@KohleAudioKult]

Don’t forget to use the discount code from above! 🍺❤️

[@zachary963]

14:00 I’ve been doing some home producing and for 90% of the song my timing is pretty good [on guitar], but then there’s the 10% where the phrase or note is clearly and painfully ahead or behind. I’ve noticed though that generally only an eighth or sixteenth note is enough to make it sound honestly pretty grooving. One thing I learned, too, is that sometimes when the performer plays behind the beat, it sounds better if the “fixed” notes are similarly behind the beat, you know? There was a whole section where I sat way behind the beat, and then I had a few notes that hit right on the beat, and those notes stuck out because they felt rushed.

[@chrismonaut]

So happy you made another video together! Really enjoyed the metal mixing contest announcement with the three of you!

[@chriszoroch3642]

Thanks guys, I wish you would have put this video out before the competition, l had huge trouble mixing the drums (as I exactly what you should not do,mixing the drums first without the guitar). Don't how my mix faired with the other entries, I tried to make mine sound like as if it was played live. This video has given me lots of information on how to move forward. Thanks guys and rock on.

[@heikkipt]

The moment when you see some of your favourite producers in a same video and suddenly hear Swedish and you can understand it because you are a Finn. This video made me happy in less than 30 seconds

[@VTuberDestrisOfficial]

Great video, very insightful the parts about where for bass you might have more distortion in one part and mute it in another and how the snare will have quite a bit of ring but blends in with the mix.

[@gustavogrosso6638]

Man, super high quality content. I’ve always thought that Warren is one of the most knowledgeable and his videos really add. Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge with us that are starting in this for love of metal and music. Keep the videos coming!

[@slavesforging5361]

awww man. i agree with this. all of it. y'all are so spot on across the board. great discussion with great people. the internet music community is really fortunate to have you blokes around helping us poor slobs out! lol. i love the open honesty, love of your jobs, and inclusive vibes. you are all amazing.

[@indigoakaben]

The most brilliant insight in this entire (awesome) conversation, was at the end when Warren mentions artists considering a "final, blended sound" as their... dial-in goal I guess, not considering the added samples or undertones involved. Inspiring video overall.

[@bobwarren4707]

I loved this video. Love the courses. So helpful. I wish I could apprentice for any one of you guys. The amount of collective knowledge from the 3 of you is mind boggling. Thank you

[@tarasolegov356]

thanks to Jens for Symphony X! This is still my favourite band!

[@NeuroticNexus]

27:00 > The room mic thing, I had been there as well, scared of phasing issues, buying additional mics and placing them in my basement studio...finally discarding all of the room stuff LOL

[@DEADLINETV]

44:29 I found the pot of gold! Great video and very interesting! I could listen to the 3 of you talking for hours! Funny how you guys are doing stuff I "came up with" in the latest mix I was doing! I'm on the right path! Yay!

[@coreyroberts47]

Ive always noticed bass breaks sounded ridiculously nasty, its good to knoe this is why

[@CrushingAxes]

Holy S*7$% that's the best video ever ! You're great Kohle !

[@apostle696]

Really got some cool insights from this vid with some of the deeper thinking within the mix that you and Jens had eluded to. Things like putting a different IR or thickening up a guitar tone for a break with one guitar playing on left or right. And automating the rooms for fills and other parts of the song to build the energy and vibe. I feel that’s an underestimation part of the mixing game, because the fun stuff is adding all the cool plugins and making things sound great. But it’s the labor of love and kinda tedious details that add up and contribute the overall sound. Its even the ugly sounds that can have the best affect on a mix. That’s the difference between someone at home with all the “right tools” and the pro’s with hours under their belt who have that deeper mindset of where the mix is ultimately going.

[@patrickhahn7194]

I love Slayer's "Show No Mercy" - you can hear stringnoise and everything. But it's so energetic and cool. Nowadays you have zigtons of edits and you watch bands that can only perform with computers and backing tracks.

[@blacksmithstudio1647]

So much knowledge and experience getting handed here for free, it is almost unreal! Thanks for this guys! ❤️

[@MoreMeRecording]

Great video. I'm from Vancouver and my son-outlaw is good friends with the Spiritbox gang and turned me onto them. Lo and behold, Jens engineered it and it sounds, well...perfect. His mix displays perfectly what Kristian was saying about [paraphrasing] finding space between the opposing trains.

[@scottrance2818]

The ending was priceless lol. This is a great conversation. Being a lil long in the tooth ( 42) I can understand exactly where you guys were going soon as motorhead got brought up because when I was six my older brother exposed me to Motorhead, Iron Maiden, Priest all that classic stuff that had attitude. Oddly enough also John Williams scores, Enya and things like that which had beauty and space in them. So my approach to mixing is a combination of the 2. On the verge of a massive sounding chaotic train wreck that manages to keep it on the rails as well as using the dynamics of the song to create space and an emotional attachment to the music. It's challenging but satisfying. Anyways great video respect all 3 of you and learned a lot. Greetings from Canada

[@marcinkd]

Both, as well as You, are great. My first mixing tips research journey started with Warren - and I love what I've learned. Loads of my favourite bands ;) and IR packs bundle just bought goes to Jens. But a purchase of Mammoth goes to Dangle Dangle :D What I also like, all of You have sort of warm, and helpful mindset, great knowledge and great approach to sharing, haters and staying positive. Plus happy "goździk i pończochy" day from Poland to Yours better half. Warren's can translate it :) Thanks and have a great time day by day!

Nice video! As for the contest, thank you for the given opportunity. I definitely learned something new. And again, congrats to the winners!

[@sinnanna7471]

"Warren Huart, how you're doin?" I THOUGHT HE WOULD SAY HE'S DOING MARVELOUSLY WELL HEHE!

[@Producelikeapro]

Hello Sin Nanna! Yes, I am doing marvellously well thank you!

[@Producelikeapro]

Hello Sin Nanna! Yes, I am doing marvellously well thank you!

[@sinnanna7471]

@@Producelikeapro great to hear! Thanks for the vid =)

[@jorrickthole6505]

Stranger in a straaaange lahahaand... 🤘💀🤘

[@Producelikeapro]

@@sinnanna7471 you're very welcome!!

[@DalleyMusic]

Kohle, you NEED to do more of these guest videos!! Outstandingly entertaining and informative!

[@jasons.3921]

Thank you for having this discussion. I feel more educated on the little things to keep in mind and listen for in the mix now. Cheers from Texas.

[@nokturnalsound2465]

This was a great watch!

[@VeressDani]

I listened to Ace of Spades, i have improved the sound of the latest cover i'm working on, i have poisoned my ears with that certain re-recorded album, and i feel that all the knowledge, new ideas and motivation this video gives me is so much that i'm gaining extra kilogramms from it, and a quarter of it is still yet to be watched... holy shit this is some top quality content

[@KohleAudioKult]

Great to hear that! Welcome!

[@cajun3197]

This was very informative and overwhelming. I’ve only recently started the producing side. Recording in a studio has been so difficult in the past for years because of the price then you ended up rushing through recording. Now things are very refined and infinite tools to use. I respect how you fellas know what to sift through and don’t get hung up so much on which direction to go. Thank y’all for your time in the explanations

[@pile63]

This was both entertaining and learning. Your discusion on drum sound was just great.

[@EgoPhagist]

WOW it was so cool that i thought you guys were setting here with me in the room , cheers and make more of these videos it's so awesome

[@buwumet]

Holy what :o when the ending Riff hit, I thought I was at something like the middle point of the video but no, I had watched almost an hour of super interesting producer talk

[@nyarlathotep4]

This right here is good shit. The debate was really smart regarding the subject. The metal world needs more variety when it comes to production value.

[@miked5487]

So much value in this conversation. Thanks guys

[@CJ-ck6kk]

well, being Swedish its kinda cool to hear this ;). and it's about metal so I'm all in!

[@mikemnij3038]

Fascinating conversation and creative friendship!

[@agentviktor3297]

Let's head over to the Cambridge MT website then ;)

[@marcoantoniosalvi1890]

Great chat guys...

[@jasoncrump1886]

Appreciate you guys . I'm gearing up to try to record myself. I'm 42 been playing guitar for awhile now and have some killer riffs and songs I have to get recorded.

[@KohleAudioKult]

Check out my „High Gain Guitar Tone Crafting“ course. Might be the right thing for you!

[@enthronedoath8370]

Great video. I think you hit the naill on the head in the video you did awhile ago, going over your old studio and using old gear and that is that back in the day there was less information on 'how to sound great" and people just did what they could and used what they had so you ended up with a vastly different sounding bands and mixes. But now everyone knows how to get a good sound so everyone uses that. 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@tidalwavestudio]

agree 100% with everything said. Three guys who know their stuff, and anyone recording for 20 years will have found out that all of the said is 100% accurate. Thanks for sharing! Cheers

[@MetalBastards666]

both persons "guests" are wonderrfrrrrul!

[@matobarla]

Excellent. I have Iearned a lot stuff just listening to you guy talking.

[@theAshesofDecember1]

I’ve been trying for years to get my metal mixes correct and I’ve just always struggled to get the guitars as full as they should be. They just never get that crunch. And my mixes just never have that sheen to them that makes them feel aggressive

[@norwardradtke1361]

I actually learned to use multiple instances of bass (a clean, a mid dirt, a sub) while producing and mixing EDM, even though I am a metalhead and producing metal (I've been a metal head my whole life).

[@Ryan_Messenger]

These are a lot of fun and very informative. Keep it going! 🤘🤘

[@RambowMusik]

@Warren and Kohle, the last two minutes where you talk about, "What the Blended sounds of the instruments vs what people think they sound like. maybe in combination with the psychoacoustic tricks you talked about for breaks/downparts" If you made another video elaborate on that the whole mixing community will send you a lot of roses and beers as a thank you gift :D

[@brettorvis1975]

Excellent video, very cool to hear you guys talking like this. Definitely learned a lot!

[@norwardradtke1361]

lmao when kohle says "but its always dark in sweden" and jens just solemnly nods and gives the horns HAHAHA.

[@MarcBecker_Music]

Very interesting conversation. Love to listen and learn. Thanks, Kristian, Jens and Warren.

[@sergioRR3073]

This interview was awesome, it's so interesting to listen to top producers talking about how they do their stuff!!!

[@smacd4364]

Great guests! Very informative but yet a laid back chat. If you could get Andy Sneap that would be fantastic!!

[@ParesisUK]

Brilliant insights, thank you all so much!

[@x-STORMXX-x]

I'm with you guys and thanks for all the insight, years of knowledge and thoughts. I'm a bedroom hobbyist musician that was in and out of a few local bands. I have been plying metal style music for 15 years now give or take but, never really recorded anything in my later playing despite me having the gear to do so. I just really don't want to put out a copy sound and this just is really the final nail for me with all 3 of you guys talking. I think I'm going to work hard with what I got and really try to put out something off the walls even though there will be mistakes or people might not even like it I think we need to take the risk and as something I just do for fun I have nothing to lose. I don't really have all the gear I want but, I should be able to make something work I will just have to work harder at it. Wish I could record more real instruments because I know I have the vision but, fake drums and no bass guitar at this point in time its not really inspiring to record but, I just need to open up my mind and make the plugin stuff work. The main thing is I don't really want to be on the grid so we will have to see how this works. Cheers from the east US love what you do here!

[@MartinvonBargen]

As a part-German, quarter Irish Scouser, living in Norway, I'm pretty stoked that this channel is now truly Multikulti. After a long day I'm going to unwind and drink some Juleøl that I unearthed in the local Rema1000. Skål, Prost, Cheers and hau rein!

[@tomasolsson6493]

European multiculti is almost always ok but third world immigration multiculti has been awefull for the west. Just two dags ago an afghan stabbed seven people in Sweden for no apparent reason.

[@MartinvonBargen]

I knew that I would trigger at least one person with my comment.

[@tomasolsson6493]

@@MartinvonBargen Well some people care about the future of the west.

[@gaborzajzon6622]

What a great video, makes me really want to dive into the world of mixing metal, thanks a lot.

[@agentviktor3297]

Great movie and great soundtrack. Nice content Herr Kohle!

[@the.brad.thomas]

Great listen, fantastic insight into the minds of the best mixers in the world \m/

[@RambowMusik]

Hey Kohle, just saw the part with the "I always tune the guitar for my clients" and you nodding in agreement. Could you make a video about that?:)

[@KohleAudioKult]

Good idea! I have suffered too much! Haha!

[@FotografRambow]

@@KohleAudioKult sorry to hear about your suffering, but gonna make a great video then 😂

[@josuastangl7140]

@@KohleAudioKult second this, important stuff, that video will be very helpful!

[@johanarens9798]

I had so much fun mixing Turning Point. I did buy a reamp box. This funny because my idea was to use fuzz pedals for the guitars, mixing with somekind of Dual Rectifier (modern American stack in Logic). I still have many things to learn, I guess it has open a pandora box.

[@KohleAudioKult]

Awesome! Guess you have seen my video about blending fuzz with distortion right? If not, go check it out. One of the latest on this channel.

[@ultruhhhviolet5134]

Really enjoyed this and learned a lot. Cheers guys!

[@cmcp975]

This was a really very good conversation to listen in on. Good balance of conformation bias🤓 against, “oh! I never thought of that. That’s a great idea!”

[@IshaanKunwar]

I never thought I'd watch a 53 min youtube video in one go, but this was great :D

[@TonyLaMarca2manygadgets]

A cool discussion. Thanks for letting us be the proverbial 'fly on the wall' for this. \m/

[@svensonkarl808]

It was a very entertaining and educational hour. Thank you for that! Cheers!

[@TutorialesMezclaMastering]

Lot of great advices here and nice chat!! Love it!!!

[@NeuroticNexus]

I am not producing anything professional, nor was I ever in the "scene" of these top bands but usually my guitar sounds are best when I played them at the first takes instead of trying to get every pick perfectly. My guitars were also never editied in the way that I am using "warp" features of modern DAWs or things like that. I feel even not well by using "Comps" and picking the best moment of a take for the final, since I even can't judge which was even better than the other, unless it was played totally wrong (this normally ends in a re-recording of a take). Mixing is another thing. Mixing, from my understanding, wouldn't replace drums, nor adjust things to grids etc. It should be only all about the sound, imho. Nice converstation, totally enjoying your point of views and experience.

[@M.Holland]

please do something like that again! that was great! :-)

[@gonecoyote]

great conversation. thnx for sharing

[@brugvp]

that video was awesome! a lot of helpfull info from this monster producers. Thanks Kohle

[@StigmatizedProductions]

A great discussion by 3 top notch producers!...Great educational stuff here!

[@HitTheRoadMusicStudio]

Your content is amazing man, really appreciate this amazing insight man 🤘

[@NecropsY1]

This was amazing - loved every min of this :)

[@Lastkissforpsyche]

Haha I totally agree with Warren about the old amp sims. I used to play on a pod xt years ago. I used it live with a power amp and a real cab. It was terrible sounding as any other amp sims from those times and one day i decide to bypass the cab simulation and it sounded way better. I was really impressed. I still still have it and I'm thinking about doing some test with impulse responses seen how it sound. just for fun

[@aussierob7187]

Great sound effects guys - Michael Winslow would be proud

[@correametal]

Awesome conversation and discussion!!! All three are great at what you guys do!!!

[@correametal]

Hi Kohle, I wanted to ask if the reply above this one talking about some giveaway is a real reply from you or just someone trying to hack and spam. I'll appreciate if you could let me know. Thanks for all you do!

[@piotrala]

I'm waiting for a sample pack made from your voices - all these PIM PAM POOMs ;-)

[@OlliLappalainen]

I face this discussion about how difficult it is to mix with the massive metal guitars. But I have seen only little information on how to then work with those guitars. That discussion makes it feel like that it is more than low cut, multiband compress mud zone, and maybe some 9k boost. But that's all you see in tutorials.. :D

[@jorrickthole6505]

Check out interviews with Colin Richardson. He did some legendary guitar tones and is pretty open about how he eqs etc . 🤘💀🤘

[@suniso370]

Hey man. A lot of the guitar tones are really nothing special, it's the bass guitar blend that makes you go wow. It's also very important to get your playing (or the artist that you're recording) really tight, time wise and dynamics wise, and when you capture a good performance, suddenly the amount of gain and brightness of the amp won't matter that much. You should also check out Bobby from Frightbox Recording, he has some great tips for heavy guitars.

[@JimsMusicJourney]

Learned a lot in this video. If you want a cool drinking game, drink a shot every time Jens does that slight laugh. You’ll be on the floor half way into the video.

[@Brandon-RZ]

Could listen to you guys all day. A cool video would be getting low end right between kick and bass in a super brutal dense mix maybe benighted stuff? Thanks Kohle!

[@scottwilcox6313]

Great times. I totally agree about being too technical sounding almost sterilized. On the other end would be in my opinion an old Led Zeppelin production which sounds more musically instead. Both are important for a great Metal mix IMO.

[@ianhenderson1872]

Beyond helpful thank you!

[@visualdarkness]

Loved this episode! I learned so many new ways of thinking when recording and now partly understand why mixes sound like crap!

[@johannsoncrusoe5589]

Okay, so, I will get my superior drummer with the prog metal samples and load Jens IRs into my Diezel ampsim and combine it with the mammoth bass sim and load Kohles presets to play unique basslines and learn how to mix them with warrens vids! 😀 just kidding. Great video! Been doing live and Studio engineering for years and years. It is cool to have good produced references and learn how to get where you want to go. Nowadays I think it is super important to awoid option paralysis. Write Songs, mix em AND get it done! :) Always a Joy to watch and of you three!

[@KohleAudioKult]

Haha! But honestly: Use those to get started. One of the most important things I keep on stressing is the fact that people look for their own sound sooner or later. THat's what I'm trying in my first guitar course. Let's see if this works

[@grahnfan10]

Now we need Jonas Kjellgren and Peter Tägtgren as guests!!!