What Outboard Motor to buy or not and WHY

[@tncouion]

I'm still running my 1961 Merc 700 70 HP 6 cylinder. Parts are a bear to find but I can still fix it. I have bought and sold many older outboards over the years and am able to do the repairs myself which saves much money. I like the content and the message in this video.

[@OutboardDad]

@@tncouion Thank you! Always looking to improve and help more people.

[@greggee5695]

Hello from Down under, Australia. I have a 1988 Johnston 120hp that i picked up cheap when my Suzuki 2 stroke went POOP. The Johno still goes strong gave it a fresh paint job and sticker looks and performs great, and still on the water.

[@OutboardDad]

@@greggee5695 Nice! My first was a 1979 Johnson 85, ran 24 yrs then sold the boat

[@WarrenPenner]

Currently running a 99' Evinrude 70HP EFI. Still starts and runs like a dream but the day is coming where I'll be shopping for a replacement so definitely looking forward to reading your used engine guide!

[@OutboardDad]

@@WarrenPenner Great! Just email me at [e-mail]

[@ct1762]

Suzuki

[@martinschulz9381]

I routinely see carburetor two strokes that are 30 and 40 years old that still run fine. Although many run electric trolling motors for trolling because the old carbs just don't troll right anymore. Good video

[@OutboardDad]

@@martinschulz9381 Thanks, good point

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

If you mix the oil for WOT...it is 5x too rich in oil for idling and will foul the plugs... That's why VROs were invented... the right amount of oil for the right amount of throttle...... all the time.

[@OutboardDad]

@@martinschulz9381 Thank yoy

[@wlukew3052]

Interesting video and stance. Coincidentally just caught the deadline for the manual.

[@OutboardDad]

@@wlukew3052 Sweet! Email me [e-mail]

[@fishinhookie9439]

I agree with you about older motors. I have a 1995 force carbs runs good but I have to keep it tuned up. I changed wires, hoses, electric components. I run straight over hour no issues. Thanks for your help.

[@OutboardDad]

@@fishinhookie9439 Anytime,, follow up video coming tomorrow with comments from many people. Thank you!

[@Jhwright07]

I love those Suzuki 4 cylinder 150-200. I've rebuilt a ton of these with great success. Water in the motor is usually 1) blown head gasket 2) water jackets corrode and have holes. I made a video a few years ago about mine. Heads can be found fairly affordably. Have a machine shop resurface the head and block and slap it together and run it for another 8-10 years!

[@OutboardDad]

@@Jhwright07 Appreciate your comments , so I assume I will see the corrosion on the head if that is where the leak is? Where can I source a head affordability?

[@Jhwright07]

@@OutboardDad Correct. Its pretty clear and cut once you pull the head. If its the gasket then it will be burned through. If the water jackets on either the block or the head have corroded then its easier to just replace the block/head whichever has the corrosion. Strouds Marine in Greenville, NC has tons of blocks and heads for that model. Blocks are under $500 and heads are a little less. Tell them that Josh in Richmond sent you their way. Trust me they'll get you setup and they ship sameday. Mon-thurs. I'm interested to know what you find out!

[@OutboardDad]

@@Jhwright07 Appreciate the info buddy, I learn something new every day

[@timjohnun4297]

I've had quite a bit of recent experience with both 2 and 4 stroke outboards. 4 strokes are absolutely brilliant, if they're new or less than 10 years old. Any older than that and I wouldn't want one unless it was free! I know there's 4 strokes out there that have thousands of hours on them and still run fine, but unless they are used regularly they just sit and corrode, in my opinion. By the time you notice the milky oil it's too late, there's already water in the engine and you're up for expensive repairs. I've switched back to an old Johnson Ocean Pro, at least they don't dissolve in salt water. And you can pick them up for a song. Just my experience

[@OutboardDad]

@@timjohnun4297 Love experience over opinion! Thanks

[@ct1762]

yes in my opinion new 4 strokes are designed to last about 10 years... on purpose. junk.

[@OutboardDad]

@ Thanks for your input!

[@STEVENSMITH-z9r]

Have a 1988 Johnson 120 HP still running great. this year i had to replace the VRO pump it had a crack in it.

[@OutboardDad]

@@STEVENSMITH-z9r Thanks for the reply!

[@joew8440]

Hi just recently found your channel. I am just getting back into boating and outboards after to many years away. I prefer to keep old stuff running vs buying new if it makes sense. I would like to read your book. How do I get that? Thanks, Joe

[@OutboardDad]

@@joew8440 thanks just email me at [e-mail]

[@erichumphery6784]

Hello sir just saw your video very nice I have a 91 Johnson that I bought a few year ago really like the motor it's a beast 115 a mechanic says the bearing are going out which I think there good would love to rebuild it but no knowledge of outboard motor rebuilding I think the older gas engines are better then the new ones today first there over price and you really can't work in them unless you know about them how much would it cost to rebuild a engine like mine verses buying a new one thank you for you time and video

[@OutboardDad]

@@erichumphery6784 I love those old J/E 4 cylinder motors. Do you know why he said bad bearings? Do you hear something knocking? If the crank is bad then you would do better to buy another of the same model for 2-300 bucks and make one out of both. The rebuild cost varies based on what the motor needs but a shop would want over 5k and would not be worth it. If you do it yourself it could be from $1000 to $2000. If you email me I can help you with a phone call. I am also going to make an outboard motor buying guide for mechanics in the future. [e-mail]

[@CorpseGrinder1967]

1992 150 Mercury Black Max still running without any major work done to it. Had a mechanic (a true motor-head) do a little work on it for me a few years ago and deleted the injected oil system. Now I do a premix. Ive kept up with the maintenance over all these years almost to a fault. Nothing goes unnoticed and nothing gets ignored. Anything that looks funny or questionable get addressed promptly. Engine looks almost brand new both outside the cowling and underneath. I would love to put a nice shiny new 4Stroke on my boat but all i keep hearing from mechanics is that the new engines are a sensor and electrical component nightmare.

[@OutboardDad]

@@CorpseGrinder1967 I understand, one day you will experience a four stroke and maybe change your mind. If you en in salt water nothing lasts for ever. But I agree if you take care of these they will keep running. Thank you for your comment!

[@jturner8922]

I’m subscribed. How do I get the book?

[@OutboardDad]

@@jturner8922 Thank you! It will be available on Amazon soon!

[@DustinKeating-yk3vq]

I have a 08 alumacraft with a 07 Yamaha 115 2 stroke I only run non ethanol gas with a shot of star tron at every fill up and my motor runs flawless starts on the first spin every time it's a great outboard plus my compression is 130 psi on all 4 cylinders

[@sydneyharbourscenery1206]

Ok. Subscribed. How do I get my Used Outboard Buyers Guide?

[@OutboardDad]

@@sydneyharbourscenery1206 Thank you! Just send me an email at [e-mail]

[@alanberner-h5j]

Your thoughts on 2 stroke and gov trying too stop their use ? I have a 2000 OX 66 - 250 yami , on my Grady seaferer , When its time too re-power plan is too rebuild mine ,

[@OutboardDad]

@@alanberner-h5j I have always been a two stroke guy but the reality is that eventually they are not going to be around forever. Since I am a mechanic I will rebuild anything and love keeping things running as long as possible. Salt water will eventually kill the blocks so there is too much corrosion but there are plenty of old motors with little use out there for now. I will eventually have a four stroke myself and have invested time learning and rebuilding them as well.

[@OutboardDad]

@@alanberner-h5j As far as the government, I do not want them in my business

[@timothybrulotte4102]

I am looking to buy a new 9.9 hp pond hopper. What would You recommend and why. T Y

[@OutboardDad]

@@timothybrulotte4102 Highly recommend my used outboard buying guide, email me [e-mail]

[@shawncordeiroTerraceBC]

2005 MERC 60HP 2 stroke reliable ? 105 psi compression on all 3 ?

[@OutboardDad]

@@shawncordeiroTerraceBC they can be, what oil have they been running? Has it sat for any length of time? Usen my buying guide if you subscribe and email me will send it for free. [e-mail]

[@jrbuch]

I quite like my Yamaha V4 130 2 Stroke.. Reliable, parts are easy enough to come across, Yamaha Australia still services it.

[@OutboardDad]

@@jrbuch Sweet! Yes I had twin 1991 yamaha 115 on my wellcraft and ran great! Just had to change the shift shafts

[@TheRealKlinky]

100% bud, those yamaha v4/v6 carbed motors are some of the best motors ever made! They are a blatant copy of the omc motors of the 70s, there was even a lawsuit.

[@OutboardDad]

@@TheRealKlinky Yes sir! They just copied the OMC motors, smart

[@DustinKeating-yk3vq]

I have a 07 Yamaha 2 stroke 115 HP motor runs flawless starts on the first spin every time. Compression is 130 on every cylinder

[@OutboardDad]

@@DustinKeating-yk3vq Nice! Keep up the maintenance and she will run for many years!

[@nfgassmann8518]

I have a 1984 15hp Johnson that I'd like to get rid of. How would I find someone to take it?

[@OutboardDad]

@@nfgassmann8518 Where are you located?

[@nfgassmann8518]

@@OutboardDad The motor is in Valley Springs, California I also have an older 6hp Johnson to get rid of

[@OutboardDad]

@@nfgassmann8518 I would say Facebook marketplace

[@eduardbrinkman362]

Would love to recieve the motor buying guide. Appreciate if you could mail me a copy. Regards, Eduard

[@OutboardDad]

@@eduardbrinkman362 Sure email me at [e-mail]

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

That Yamaha 250 was ruined by poor preventative maintenance. Water should never have entered the fuel... and if it did get in the fuel tank of the boat it should have been caught by the water trap/double fuel filter that should have been installed in the line from the tank to the engine.... and the owner should have drained the carb bowls at the end of every season BEFORE storing it for winter.... and again at the start of the summer boating season.

[@OutboardDad]

@@JohnSmith-pl2bk You’re speaking my language!

[@josemariatrueba4568]

There's a strong pressure in my area to send to the trash old engines and replace them with brand new four stroke engines.

[@OutboardDad]

@@josemariatrueba4568 Wow! That’s a shame. But sounds like there would be many junk engines around to rebuild

[@josemariatrueba4568]

​​@@OutboardDadNot really because those old engines were already sent to the trash.

[@OutboardDad]

@@josemariatrueba4568 Yikes

[@DonziGT230]

I can't believe people would put their running engines in the trash. What area is this?

[@mattw3296]

@@DonziGT230 surely he doesn't mean actually discarding them. Where I live, in the Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas area any used boat that isn't running a 4 stroke can be purchased at a ridiculous price. I purchased a 2012 bass boat with a Mercury Optimax for about $8,000-$9000 less than what almost identical boats with a 4 stroke were selling for. That's basically a free motor and it only had about 100 hours on it!

[@davetyson2331]

4 stk use less fuel dont wear out as fast and when testing engines use cylinder leak test

[@OutboardDad]

@@davetyson2331 Thank yoy

[@terenceiutzi4003]

Have you ever had a 2 stroke? My 1977 Evinrude has 5,000 hr on it and has never been wrenched!

[@OutboardDad]

@@terenceiutzi4003 that’s awesome! I had a 1979 Johnson 85 that I ran for 17 yrs. Would have been longer if I did not screw up the oil mix and lean it out. Live and learn

[@terenceiutzi4003]

@OutboardDad The only people that I know that had a 2 stroke fail used the wrong oil. My manual is quite plain. With Evinrude oil, use 50 to 1 mix. Any other oil use 30 to 1

[@johnbecker5213]

you could not be more wrong.

[@haroldhodge7770]

What’s so bad about 40hp Force everyone says it’s a bad engine to buy

[@OutboardDad]

@@haroldhodge7770 Many ran fine but it’s getting harder to find parts.

[@haroldhodge7770]

@@OutboardDad Thanks for the info I just got it running. I just found your videos will be watching them

[@OutboardDad]

@@haroldhodge7770 Thank you!

[@johnbecker5213]

two stroke only, anything but yamaha foreign garbage

[@johngranato2673]

Chryslers (Cry & Slurs) had a bad reputation back in the 1970's

[@OutboardDad]

@@johngranato2673 Good one!

[@kevincrawford7439]

Engine, not motor.

[@OutboardDad]

@@kevincrawford7439 Agreed

[@timjohnun4297]

So, outboard engine?