What progress actually looks like in language learning

[@Thelinguist]

📲 The app I use to learn languages: bit.ly/46RYR4O 🆓 My 10 FREE secrets to language learning: bit.ly/46KynC5 ❓What are you thoughts on today’s video? Let me know in the comments!

[@sakuraikeizo]

Do you know about Karl Friston's Free Energy Principle?

[@ownone7759]

Words are friends, I am introduced, later I recognize them, next I become familiar, after a while we know each other and they introduce me to others and I repeat that process with the new words. Give the seeds time to grow. Nurture, water, and expose to the 💡 light.

[@thiagoelav633]

awesome analogy

[@LanguageMaus]

love this

[@Blurpers]

Well said👏

[@yngknj]

So good

[@pitekamonu]

in my case I can read everything better that I was struggling on a year ago, in those moments you do realize that you're making constant improvement

[@ryanpmcguire]

I am often shocked how often certain passages, episodes, etc, later seem totally familiar and obvious. The feeling is often "How could I have ever not understood this?"

[@j4513]

Very relatable. For me, I also have this problem in my native language. Sometimes I sound like a professional speaker and other times I question if I’m even fluent in my mother tongue. 🥴

[@jackbombay1423]

I picked a random clip in russian, with no context nor subtitles, when I started to learn the language a year and a half ago and I go to watch it whenever I feel I'm not making any progress anymore. It always encourage me to keep learning the language because every time I go back to that video I understand a bit more than the previous time.

[@TheVolorand]

Thank you Steve. I have been so frustrated .Your encouragement is worth gold

[@williammorris7279]

I deeply appreciate the wisdom and factual information in your videos, and am always happy to see a new one. In this video, I completely recognise the points made, having got to stage 3 in one language, nearly there on a second, almost on stage 2 with a third, and hardly even at stage 1 on a fourth. I am always freshly inspired by you. Language learning is such a marvellous thing, and is one of the joys of my life: even when it is hard going, it is rewarding.

[@wowjef]

Hey Steve, love the videos. I invented an acronym when someone asked me to explain how I learn languages - PETS: Patience, Enthusiasm, Time, System. Actually, in order of priority it should be EPTS, but that does not roll off the tongue so will. Time spent is important but also a systematic approach, which may differ from person to person, but multiple inputs is crucial, I feel. I taught my self Finnish and Italian. I learned Spanish and (very basic) French and Portuguese in formal learning environments. I prefer self-taught. Thank you again for the inspiration

[@quantus5875]

Fantastic content Steve!! You really have helped me on my language learning journey!

[@Daveo1]

I call those times when my brain starts to understand things as moments of clarity, unfortunately sometimes it feels like they are far and few between, thanks for your input Steve it really helps to validate and keep me on the path.

[@Maksym_Sapiha]

I'm so glad to see a message about Steve's new video💡

[@camilapalmeida]

I needed this video! Thank you, Steve! 🙏 On my swedish learning journey, at times I think I do so well during conversation classes, other times it seems I speak everything wrong and can't remember simple stuff I learned.. Last class I felt like that! But I always remember your words and come to watch your videos whenever I feel down!

[@ChandlerBing-t3k]

You are right Steve I don't care if I can't remember words that I learn I just learn and most of the time I recognize the meaning in context when I exposed to the language I always take your advice and I'm improving a lot thanks a bunch

[@JBSpecialMusic]

Along these lines, over the past couple years I've joined several European Portuguese humor groups. I pickup tidbits about the culture as I flex my mind around each randomly posted joke. I treat each joke as a puzzle to solve.

[@granthamwizard4590]

I'm glad I watch your videos. They inspire me to continue with the language learning journey. Thanks Steve.

[@harishsingh9885]

Yes you are right. I am Learning thai language from last 3 years. Now my understanding is better in watching thai movies. .

[@haroldwood1394]

Thanks, Steve. This was an excellent, clear and certainly credible discussion, supported by research. Much appreciated.

[@Soulcap1818]

Always such wisdom and inspiration! Thanks Steve, you help me stay stoked (learning Norwegian right now and loving the process!)

[@Jhonatancomh]

Tô acompanhando muito você Steve, ótimas dicas ❤

[@coolbrotherf127]

We build a language model in our brains. As we build the model, we will have lots of little knowledge islands that don't connect together until much later. Like he said in the video, we have to stay patient and continue to learn and review until everything connects and the bigger picture makes sense.

[@anna-lena9313]

Thanks just for the first few words. I started in march to learn Burmese and it’s only been for the last 2 months I found a structure to learn the languages (because there are no fancy online courses). In todays lesson with my italki teacher I learned some of the particles and it’s just astounding and interesting how different this languages is compared to English and how fun it is to discover that. To overthink „am I making enough progress blah blah“ is not fun at all and it’s useless bc I need to trust the process.

[@afonsoscrinn]

How is your structure to learn Burmese? I intend to learn unconventional, smaller and/or endangered languages in the future and I'd appreciate some advice if you could help me :)

[@siamakalaei1148]

Thanks for the explanations. Best wishes 🤩🤩🤩

[@kawthar]

yes! i am having the same situation in me while i am learning Korean as long as i am learning it i still find difficulty in making sentences or knowing the changes that happen to the sentence and some times i find it disappointed but actually learning a new language need patient and keep going and as you said it will be like a joke and you will laugh about your mistake once you realise and understand it 😅😂

[@JavierColque-l3k]

Gracias por tu travajo profesor Steve

[@aixzi_official]

thx you,I found one of my technique after years, is to understand 1 page LingQ per week as a begginner, be interested about the rules of the language when I feel to. I also learn 5 words a days which are important to know for my case.

[@Salah_-_Uddin]

Good explanation.

[@stan8958]

Steve, that click! that you have mentioned in your speech I compare with click of correct mounting of the boots in mountain skis.

[@stephencindrich135]

I love my Spanish Mini - Stories! 🎉

[@chrisbunka]

When I hear Steve use the phrase “the element of surprise”, I can’t get Monty Python’s “The Spanish Inquisition” skit out of my head 😅 I had a moment during a lesson in which my Portuguese teacher had used the word “tivesse”. Although I had read this word countless times on LingQ and had heard it on audio, I had failed to grasp it in conversation until my teacher had written down what she had said.

[@spiderlandslint]

wich portuguese are you focused? portuguese or brazilian?

[@chrisbunka]

@@spiderlandslint Português brasileiro

[@thiagoelav633]

@@spiderlandslint I hope that he is learning the right one. eu espero que ele esteja aprendendendo o portugues Brasileiro!

[@mrmcconko4985]

Best viedo you habe ever made

[@userilesouldkhaled]

Thank you for this vidéo

[@thescorpion575]

Wow I didn't expect that joke about the police officer, my teacher in school told that to the class once and I thought it was a classic Italian joke that people in other countries wouldn't understand

[@Jackson.661]

You're a polyglot, that's amazing. I found you on tik tok sir🎉

[@xer279]

There's also a lot of other aspects to language learning that's also important to address, like focusing on the fundamentals and trying to get yourself to think in the other language. Personally, I think that pronunciation is the most important piece of learning a language, and there are tools and resources that can help you familiarize yourself with parts of the languages, like the IPA. Here's my take on it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWqzi6tjnrqJnMk

[@airfreshKahyarust-uk3pk]

İ am amazerbaijani and now live in Türkiye but sometimes İ hear such statements that İ stard translate every word in my mind and then ask the people who tell them - "does it mean so...?" They look at me and smile, then reply - "actually no" 😅 İ would say our languagies are relative but sonetimes İ don't know the local speech.

[@SubatomicParticleX]

Lol i just finished my LinGQ reading for today.

[@thiagoxaviersoutricolor8260]

Hello Steve how's it's going? Good weekend Sir, bye see you next.

[@GaiusLibrietscientia]

Steve, podes hablar sobre cando tens que aprender un idioma que xa non estudas por un tempo? A mí me gustaría muchísimo poder eschucarlo hablando sobre esto. Estoy estudando gallego en mi universidad y, por esto, ya estoy olvidando el castellano. Puedes me ayudar con esto? Saludos desde Brasil!

[@mrmcconko4985]

How often do you guys use lingq to learn and read? I think I am using it to much and that I need to read paper books etc

[@Jopan471]

True

[@GringoGringo-q1y]

Eu sou Brasil estou estudando com video

[@GringoGringo-q1y]

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[@andrel8243]

I laughed twice at his joke

[@jamiepilkington5298]

Can someone explain how lingq moves lingqs into known words. It seems non-thematic to have to intentionally review the words again out of context to decide if they are known. Is there someway to promote the words up a level each time that I don't need to look at the definition of the lingq? Maybe if I read it 5 times without needing to look at the definition then that would count as known? Can always make it a lingq again if I look at it in new context and don't know it

[@Xxxxskfhspfndd]

02.09.2024

[@sakuraikeizo]

The brain learns to minimize the error between predictions and sensory inputs according to the Free Energy Principle. To achieve this, the brain engages in data-driven learning from natural representations rather than learning from mistakes. In language learning, it is more effective to reduce surprise, learning from comprehensible input and statistically data-driven patterns of meaning and word order. Since there are no absolute rules or correct phonemes in language, it is not possible to recognize errors or learn from them.

[@Thelinguist]

There are "normal phonemes" which speakers gradually correct for. French people start aspirating "h", English speakers learn to make the guttural "r" in French or the rolled "r" in Spanish. We gradually improve, get closer to the desired normative pronunciation. That has been my experience.

[@sakuraikeizo]

@@Thelinguist Phonemes are not physical sounds, but groups of sounds. Even the number of phonemes differs between British English and American English. AI speech recognition also recognizes similarities in the dynamic features of expressions and phrase frames.

[@nishanmagar2024]

❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@LudwigLorriane-x5k]

When I cross words I don’t know meaning, I go grab dictionary. what should I do?

[@Hofer2304]

Before you are looking into a dictionary, theoreticize what it could mean.

[@Thelinguist]

Read on line and use online dictionaries, and when reading on paper just let the words you don't know just go by.

[@LudwigLorriane-x5k]

@@Thelinguist Thanks! I‘ve always been bothered by this problem. They say that the presence of native language during reading will affect the reading effect, but I always prefer understanding meaning before continuing read.

[@lingoball]

God Bless You, Sir Steve Kauffman... 🙏🙏🙏 King James Bible 1611...

[@guybuysse7]

👍🙏🍀❤️

[@lizzethmancilla5197]

❤

[@davidbrisbane7206]

If you don't know what learning looks like, then you are doing it wrong. 😊

[@paulaandreafernandezchavez1132]

🇨🇴☕

[@PeebeesPet]

Are you outsourcing your thumbnails? Because now they're just generic "look at me I'm a youtuber" thumbnails.

[@IrinaWilburg]

Allow me to make a strange request because my curiosity has gotten to me. Steve, could you make a video or series of them, sharing your lifestyle habits ranging from diet to exercise because you're too fit to not share the secret. I'm serious.

[@unsaltedskies]

I'm not sure how I feel about the style of editing. Feels like one 5 minute long run on sentence. The content is great otherwise. 👍

[@fanyun-i7h]

有没有人说你长得有点像拜登呢😁

[@sakuraikeizo]

Both AI and children can learn language by simply mimicking natural expressions. What they learn from natural expressions is the natural word order, and they are not learning from mistakes.

[@sakuraikeizo]

AI modeled after the brain engages in data-driven learning from natural representations, and there is no evidence that language learning is a probabilistic, error-driven process. The brain does not process based on rules; instead, it processes statistically. If error processing were to occur, it should be based on rules.

[@Thelinguist]

But the brain does establish rules early, as a 4 year old for example, with the regular paste tense of verbs (ie. ..ed ending in English) which it then applies to certain irregular verbs incorrectly, until with enough feedback by age 6 or so it stops doing so. Error correction based on feed back.

[@sakuraikeizo]

@@Thelinguist There is no medical evidence that children learn rules at the age of four. Rather, children simply memorize by imitating. Even AI that replicates the brain does not process language based on rules.

[@sakuraikeizo]

@@Thelinguist If rules can be learned, why do we need problisitic error-driven presess? If rules can be learned, rule based processing is much easer than problisitic error-driven presess.

[@XhoowieX]

​@@sakuraikeizoyou learn the rules by making errors and finding out they were errors. Languages have far too many rules to just have them explained to you and memorise them by rote.

[@sakuraikeizo]

@@XhoowieX I learned the language by imitating adults and avoiding their mistakes.