What Really Ended Our Scientology Marriage

[@gbosslady323]

This friendship is what any divorced couple should strive for especially when there are kids involved.

[@1jacquilee]

Agree. And this is why the kids are adjusting well. It's not divorce that ruins kids, it is parents fighting and putting the kids in the middle.

[@courtneyjackson7181]

Love ❤️ this relationship ❤️

[@lunaslovelyfrenchies8288]

You guys have a better relationship than some married people do. There’s so much love between you both.

[@laiajulia3322]

Jenna, this is how healthy relationships look, don't matter romantic or not. Search for this in the future, but with common interests. ❤

[@grl7968]

You guys are the cutest divorced uncouple ever! Dallas please support Jenna as she leaves the P.O.S. and encourage her to never look back. I know you will. Many blessings to you both!

[@Arkansasflamingo]

I’m so glad that you and Dallas have such a great friendship now. It’s wonderful to model this for your children. Way to go you two!!!

[@seeyouinthegarden]

now let them marry

[@seeyouinthegarden]

oh i'm sorry i didn't watch video and didn't think it was about them

[@seeyouinthegarden]

i kind of jump the gun when i speak sometimes i'm sorry Jesus saves love you in Jesus name Jenna

[@sunnylilme]

Wow. This is the most mature, open, vulnerable conversation I've ever heard. You both are wonderful people despite scientology

[@JennaMiscavige]

Thank you, that is really sweet of you to say 💖💖💖

[@mannmom1]

I have been divorced for roughly 15 years and my exhusband and I still have a great relationship so it makes me happy when I see another couple maintain a good relationship. I feel like we will always be related. We’re family and always will be. As my five kids have gotten older and married and became parents have thanked us for keeping the family as a family. Good job you two!

[@JennaMiscavige]

Thats really wonderful to hear 💖 Good for you! I know sometimes its not possible, but if it is, it can make life so much richer 💖

[@sundaramaji]

fear of abandonment is real. the last women i dated was abandoned by her father when she was a 4 year old girl. as he was leaving the family, she clung to his leg screaming for him to not go. i don't think she ever got over that

[@dysmissme7343]

Man that’s devastating ❤

[@sunnylilme]

My dad did the same when I was 4, never saw him again. It's made me weird with men. My childhood I grieved for a guy who never gave a damn about me. I didn't figure it all out till I was adult.

[@carrieshirley6167]

It's like the scene from Hope Floats that gets me every time I watch it. :(

[@JennaMiscavige]

Wow, poor girl 😥 Sadly everyone winds up getting hurt in these scenarios, you wind up hurting other people through testing them later in life 💖💖💖

[@sundaramaji]

@@JennaMiscavige that was very well said and insightful

[@myrawest]

Oh. My. God. What you said at around 51:20. I relate to that SO HARD. And it's something I've been thinking about so much lately. I do the exact same thing, I SUBCONSCIOUSLY would set up situations where I wanted and needed my partner to show up for me and show that he was there and he cared, but it was setting him up for failure. A good example is I'd be acting difficult and he'd be getting more and more irritated by me. I actually really liked the feeling of it. And I had to ask myself why. I discovered that it was because I loved the feeling from knowing that even though he was frustrated by me and I was being difficult, he still cared and loved me. It was a subconscious way to reassure myself. And it was also a subconscious way to check if he got annoyed enough, if he'd leave or stop loving me. It was kind of a way to check how much he loved me and where the line was before he'd stop. Another example, but kind of a bad example .... right at the moment when I desperately needed him, I'd either act withdrawn/cold, or angry, but i wanted him to reach out to me and show me he loved and cared about me. But I was acting like a cactus and acting like I didn't want him near me.

[@JennaMiscavige]

YEP 💯 Its crazy how I did this for so long without even knowing. When someone draws a line, I see how far I can push it. All without knowing. I'm hoping that knowing can make it a little better over time! Big hugs to you 💖 Thank you so much for sharing 💖

[@LorraineinPNW]

It's so heartwarming to see a divorced couple appreciate and respect each other!

[@leah_1577]

You guys have such a healthy relationship now…so proud of you guys! Oh and i totally see the Chris O’donnol resemblance! lol

[@4annegs]

You both are such a treat to watch together. Jenna, plz never think of yourself as stupid. Every person who has ever been cheated upon, thinks that should have been smarter at that period. You're a brilliant & creative soul & it would be best for you to honor THAT part of who you are. We can't let poor decisions define us. It's a grief period for you & you'll go thru the stages, but plz know, you're SO MUCH MORE than what you're feeling during this. I'm not a fan of airing dirty laundry, but I "get" you're reasons for it. I'm sure you'll be getting tons of feedback, plz try to filter what's good for you long term & what's just MORE negativity, which you don't need now...grief seems to have a velcro effect where it collects upon itself. Find your joy & it will be collected. 🙏❤️🙏

[@caitlinlegoas4568]

Thank you for sharing your story. I'm struggling with the right words here, but I wish my parents had been able to have the kind of friendship y'all have post-divorce. Like you clearly respect and care for each other as humans and close friends. You are individually healing and being so honest about why it didn't work out and being so kind to yourselves. Your kids are gonna be great people because each of you are great people. Thank you for being open and sweet and gentle together.

[@loretta3203]

You are both great together. Your kids are very lucky to have parents who care about each other and about them. Happy new year to you both! 🎉❤

[@JennaMiscavige]

Happy New Year sweet Loretta!!!!!!! 💖💖💖

[@teresadeevers5062]

Wow, you two are so impressive. Seriously. With all the baggage of the past, you are still friends and working so well together to parent your kids. What an amazing g example for us all. Bravo!

[@JennaMiscavige]

💖💖💖

[@ChimeraTruely]

50:43 Understanding your brain is wonderful. It may not change how it works, but you can create the lists to help you and your future partner work around it. (or with it, it shouldn't be weaponized) When your brain won't stop telling you horrible things, please ask if you would say those things to your kids. If not, think about the advice you would give to your kids if they were facing the same situation, & take your advice. Your gut never lied to you & you are NOT stupid. Sending love your way. You will find a better place sooner than you realize. 🥰

[@edieandmemiller4649]

Dallas is why you trusted Aaron. You thought Aaron would be a man of his word and he wasn't. Again, it's Aaron not you! Even in the ugliness and sadness of divorce, you and Dallas have shown one another love and respect. That's huge character points for you both! Aaron, not so much at all!!!

[@ainemcdonnelll]

I am Irish and we talk over each other constantly. Cut to moving to Canada and getting reprimanded at work for interrupting. 😂

[@JennaMiscavige]

I love it! 💖💖💖

[@itsyourgirljannyb]

Kudos to you guys for being so compassionate to each other after such a hard-life change (divorce) after a different hard-life change (leaving a high-demand religion). That’s incredibly commendable. ❤

[@therealgirljb]

It's so rare to have a friendship like yours after divorce. As bad as Scientology was, it brought you together, two kiddos, and the ability to be rational in your thoughts & emotions while ending your marriage, yet staying friends. Your kids are lucky to have you as parents!

[@happytrails699]

Such a horrible thing to have a child grow up in a cult. Always so afraid of being abandoned. You are still affected by it but you are getting stronger. I am so glad you two are still friends.

[@JennaMiscavige]

Thank you so much! Yes I hope I am getting stronger! 💖💖💖

[@Jschuon66]

You two need a weekly show about your time together the good and bad! You guys have a natural flow that works well on here!

[@myrawest]

I love these videos. Thank you. It's so insightful and thoughtful provoking in so many different ways. Thank you both for going in depth and being honest and vulnerble

[@SweetStephee]

It's so awesome that ya'll do these videos together! Love it❤

[@amyhollingsworth5304]

You guys both seem like amazing people. Great job getting free and building a healthy and happy life.

[@Rana-Kethla]

Ohh Jenna, you broke my heart in the best of ways when you talked about feeling unconditional love. Thank you.

[@MotherofRobert]

What an amazing video, so bold & so raw. Exceptional.🧡🧡

[@ColoradoMntn1222]

I wish I could give both of you a hug. Such beautiful people, both of you. The world is a better place with the two of you being friends. And not everyone is meant to build a life together and go through the daily motions together day by day. Scientology just didn't prepare you two for a stable marriage, and that was the entire point. They didn't want you to have support and interest outside of Scientology. There were very real things that drew you to each other, though. But how we go about our tasks on a daily basis and how we make decisions and how our brains work and where our priorities are and how those priorities affect our significant other all play a huge role in the health and success of that partnership. There are very few people we could sit down and co-write a book together with. There are even fewer we could be married to for over 20 years. Thank you for sharing your journey and helping others around you heal and learn as you do. Best wishes as your lives continue forward into new and exciting things. It's always an adventure, isn't it? And it is that way because you had the courage to leave Scientology. Now, you have a life of adventure just like the stories Dallas told you way back then. Imagine if your young self could hear of all you've seen and lived.

[@roxalavista3279]

Jenna, scientology deprived you of so much that life has to offer, and yet you are making the very best of it by cultivating your wise and beautiful soul. You and Dallas are a wonderful example of two people who want the very best for each other and your kids. Your individual personality traits as you relate are so much fun to see. Keep shining your light! ❤

[@wink2354]

You guys are so brutally honest and I admire you so much for that. I spent from 16 to 21 in a cult and I learned a fair bit about myself from your conversation. I am so happy to see you are friends now. You guys are awesome to so honestly share your experience. Your kids are lucky to have you as parents. ❤

[@Colleeniee02]

This was so raw and beautiful.. I was crying when Jenna cried..You two are really good humans ❤❤

[@gbuddyneverin]

Such a wonderful conversation, this has to be healing for the two of you. You both have so much to be proud of with your children. Love your strength and bravery to bring this all to the public and discuss. ❤

[@Gookieandthebippa8086]

The hug at the end was a good ending. 😊 wish and hope you and your family peace and joy ✌

[@Kim-ho8bl]

You both seem like wonderful, caring people. Wishing you both nothing but love and happiness.

[@larissarenee4250]

I love that your children have allowed you understand acceptance and unconditional love! You deserve it Jenna

[@KevinConklin5]

The both of you have gone far beyond what sciontology claims to provide. Another Great Video. Cheers to a Fantastic new year!

[@betsybabf748]

That sounds like my husband and me. I want to talk through things then, but he needed space. I learned to give them that space because if he could breathe first, he would come back more quickly and be far more receptive to talk. Unfortunately I was widowed suddenly in my 40s, far too young, but if we compared how we communicated in our 20s to how we did in our 40s, it was night and day, pretty so much more productive in our 30s and 40s. We had very passionate fights in our 20s, but I can't think of one fight we had the last 10 years of our marriage.

[@jojob2662]

Love the video. My divorced parents had a great friendship and it is a really nice way to grow up. ❤

[@kathybailey9711]

Really enjoyed this video! The fact that you can have such a good relationship now after all you had against you shows what amazing people you both are.

[@PamJohnson-cx6ks]

It blows me away how friggen cool and amazing that you and Dallas and Aaron are… some of the Scientology people with all the horrors are just beyond cool… maybe it’s just natural but mad respect and much gratitude for now saving the world from a nightmare cult!! Thank you guys don’t change your so friggen funny and it makes it way easier to listen to how sick that cult is… You guys are so awesome!!

[@JennaMiscavige]

What a sweet thing to say, thank you 💖 I am very grateful to have both of them in my life 💖Grateful for kind people like you 💖

[@gasmith28]

Aaron. Really. He’s a scumbag.

[@cyndiluwho]

"Like" when you do videos with Dallas. This provides valuable insight into the personal experiences of individuals involved in Scientology during their marriages, as well as the difficulties encountered after leaving.

[@Arkansasflamingo]

You are both so right!!! Nobody can beat you!!! Thank you for sharing your stories. Thank you for sharing your growth. I wish i’d heard this many years ago. You make me want to be a better person Jenna. I just adore you. Janet

[@senseofsassafras]

Now that I know what happened between you and ASL is there any chance of you getting back together? You seem so happy and you have such history you know stranger things have happened.

[@valhallamcgaughey3720]

I have secretly thought this, also! Of course, getting along as friends can be very different from getting along as a married couple, especially when past trauma is involved. But I do agree these two seem great together on these videos. I know there’s more to their relationship than what’s on KZbin, but still.

[@MollyLangXOXO]

Jenna, it’s Molly from MN & we chilled with Nat. I want you to know how delightful it is to see you shine in all these ways, you two are fabulous, your laugh is the best, & I just love this trek you’re forging so much! Stay the amazing path, you’re making such difference! 🎉❤

[@oi4431]

Jenna thank you for being an inspiration. We love you so much ❣️

[@SisterOfTheFireflies181]

This conversation was beautiful, Jenna & Dallas. You shared in an open and raw way which was good for your souls and healing for your hearts. I commend you for your bravery in doing this publically. It will help many people to witness the maturity you displayed in this conversation. And the hug at the end was truly touching! Thank you both for making this video--it truly warmed my heart and helped me to process feelings I have regarding my divorce from 10 years ago (17 years together). We've also remained friends but we've never been able to talk this honestly about our relationship. Mad respect for your ability and willingness to be so vulnerable! Keep working towards reaching your full potentials and you'll find the happiness you seek. A favorite quote I'd like to share is "The kindest thing you can do for yourself is to be the person you would most like to spend the rest of your life with." ~ Heather K. O'Hara. Hugs to you both! 🫂 Julie ❤

[@susanward678]

So nice to see you two getting along. I believe you guys are really helping your kids. Jenna, when you told the story about your kids telling you that they will always love you I started crying. So touching. Hugs to you both. 🤗

[@montyollie]

Unconditional love is so so so powerful. I feel that way about my mom too.

[@candiceyoung8244]

I love that you 2 have such a sweet friendship still,and obvious respect for each other. Thank you both for sharing ❤

[@PawsForAndrea]

💛💖💛 I'm seriously in awe of the two of you for having such a mature, thoughtful, vulnerable conversation at all, let alone in front of us on YT! What a great, loving example you are, first & foremost for your kids, but also for us! Wishing you both the very best (& your kids too, of course), as you continue to thrive & move forward! 💙💛💙

[@violiendamast]

What a lovely conversation ❤❤

[@JaelSetFree]

Thank you both sooooo much!!!!!!!! You guys are awesome and it helps sooo much to have both of your perspectives on this!! Sending your whole family LOVE and LIGHT!!!!!!!

[@SoloTraveler..]

I just can’t get enough of you two!

[@user-pi7yr3fd8q]

I love your videos with Dallas. You've both been through so much, to have this wonderful friendship is just beautiful. Happy New Year to you both 💖

[@barbieworld8491]

You two remind me of me & my ex-husband. We have a beautiful son together and will always be one another’s first love. Mad respect for both of you❤️ BTW we are to this day Best Friends

[@SweetStephee]

In life you learn, two things can be true. ❤

[@Susie-C-J]

This was an amazing stream! You guys are exceptional individuals & deserve all the beautiful things this world has to offer! ❤️

[@suziex4190]

Wow, thank you for sharing this. I heard a lot of honesty, maturity, wisdom, respect, willingness to grow, and healing. Don't know you but PROUD of you.

[@InTheNati]

How about Dallas T-Rex Hill? 🦖 😜

[@1timepad]

Interesting conversation and great rapport on display.👍

[@PlantPerfectGina]

Dallas and Jenna...you two are beautiful, caring people and really amazing parents! Thanks a lot for making me cry! 😜 Even though our backgrounds are totally different, I could relate to you as parents as well as a married couple with struggles. You two are a living example that even though you were Scientologists, you can come out on the other side and live a happy, healthy life. Even when it's hard! I'm glad you fought so hard to rescue yourselves from Scientology! You're a true success story! I wish you and your family the absolute best in 2025! 🎉💕

[@KarolynLee]

What a healthy and honest relationship. This was absolutely delightful!!

[@lorigesch1295]

I so love the banter between you two. As someone who grew up with divorce parents that hated each other, I can’t tell you how wonderful it is to see that you two can be friends. That is so good for both of you, but more importantly your kids. I LOVE the videos you do with Dallas. You two crack me up. 😂

[@AmyAdams-ep8qi]

I love that Dallas is so supportive of you doing these videos that he’s even willing to do them with you! And as a viewer I love that you both are talking about your relationship so the viewer isn’t left wondering and hoping the ex is okay with you sharing all this personal information on the internet.

[@naomihales5430]

You guys are really a beautiful couple of people and a great example of growing after divorce. Your kids are lucky to have you both as parents and role models! ❤❤ It’s ok that marriages don’t work sometimes… but it is clear to me that you both have so much love for your kids and love for each other as human beings… something that cult didn’t teach and wanted to destroy in you. Jenna… in no way did that cult win! You and Dallas both won because you got out of there, have lived so much life, and are raising two normal kids! Little captain Davey of the fake space navy may have his hands on billions of dollars… but you have shown more happiness and growth in this one hour video than he has in 30 years I’m sure. You have won over and over and over again! Thanks so much to the both of you for sharing your story. I hope it inspires more ex exes to grow even if it isn’t together. ❤️❤️

[@charlenegrant7788]

I love to listen to both of you sharing your life changes and sameness. You are both so kind.

[@Ketowski]

Wow, that went so fast! I didn’t imagine that an hour on that topic would be so engaging. My mistake! Encouraged to hear your mutual approach to dealing with a unique and caring relationship. I don’t know if this applies to you, but a trauma response can create the desire to test and a fear of abandonment. You’ve probably tried a variety of things to address trauma, etc. Healing can be a lifelong journey. Hopefully, you can continue to find ways to be kind and nurturing yourself. It can be one of the keys, imo. And it can help balance out a lot of the giving involved in nurturing others. Common in women and committed parents. All stuff that you likely know. These things seem important to talk about and seem to be rarely in popular culture. Nuff said, on my part. Thank you to you both! I enjoyed the conversation topic and the rapport between you both very much.

[@cheriemyers2155]

It’s a shame that you couldn’t make your marriage continue. You really are good together and really care about one another. It’s sad that sometimes that’s not enough. I admire both of you for how you are moving forward with your divorced relationship. Scientology definitely didn’t win. Scientology had a big “0” loss!! I hope that both of your lives moving forward bring you joy and happiness.

[@plaidpaisley5918]

Good reflections, Jenna.

[@christyannie83]

Man, Jenna, we are exactly the same age and very, very similar people. I didn’t grow up in a cult, but I grew up in an alcoholic home. Both parents. I’m so glad you and Dallas are mature enough to still recognize the good things and remain friends and raise your children together! And good for you, that you made it so your own children have a safe place to land!

[@emvee6561]

❤

[@montyollie]

OMG you have perfect pitch when you sing!!

[@pbbside]

Stunning vulnerability and insight. Thank you for this.

[@celestesmith3044]

You two make me happy It's good to see you are raising your children together ❤️

[@kathyotoole4608]

It’s wonderful for your children that you and Dallas are able to stay friends. My daughter and her ex are still very involved in each others lives as well as their spouses and it is so much easier on my grandchildren. It has allowed the family to grow rather than split apart. Holidays are so much better.

[@NoelAnastasia]

Jenna you and Dallas are two great caring intelligent gracious compassionate people. Plus both very very good looking! In no way does Dallas seem gay. People on comments just act ignorant for no reason at times. I can tell Is a very very l strong bond between you two. At first I thought why did these two get divorced? But when explained how grew apart even though very nice respectful people I understood a little bit better. Plus you were so young when got married and you only knew the world of Scientology. I will say this: even though divorced and not getting back together, you and Dallas have a very very deep respect for each other a very large amount of couples that were together twenty something years have never had. I have great admiration for you both! You are a beautiful classy lady but also have a lot of spunk! Loved your book! How anyone comes out normal out of the crazy world of Scientology I cannot fathom. Wish you and Dallas and your children the very very best and glad are friends with such deep Respect for each other and can laugh And joke with each other in a playful way.

[@jenniferglosser5161]

You two have risen above! So sorry scientology was your parents. I say that respectfully as they didnt know differently. Thanks to you two, your children will be ok! You're going to be ok too! ❤. May life bless you in any & all ways! ❤❤❤❤ YOU BOTH ARE PERFECT❤

[@marceypoeckes1968]

On the replay crew! You both are amazing. ❤ Have a very Happy New Year!🎉

[@oldsha10]

The relationship between you guys seems pretty special.

[@michellelee2433]

1:05:06 you brought me to tears. You never really felt unconditional love. I love this video! You and Dallas are a great example!!

[@wagstaff6135]

This is like, literally giving me hope for humanity. And if my wife were really into snowboarding, we'd have been divorced long ago.

[@zonuts]

Being diagnosed with ADHD later in life can be such a relief and confirmation. Whether or not medication is involved, there are so many medication-free life management strategies that can make your life make more sense.

[@newyorknoshoes]

for what it’s worth, as a person diagnosed with ADHD over a decade ago and having watched your videos for a little while now, I kept thinking to myself “I bet my husband will tell me I like her videos because she has ADHD because he always says I only like creators with ADHD.” so when you finally mentioned it yourself I had to comment like YES!!! I think you’re sooo onto something. I hope you can explore this more 🤞🏻 figuring out ADHD can be really life changing!

[@Kfick89]

Love your post marriage relationship ❤

[@AA-lq5pu]

You and Dallas look so cute Jenna! Glad that you can still be friends after this.

[@AnnaWitt-1223]

That was a great healthy talk, happy new year 🎉 to both of you ❤

[@andrea6421]

This is so cool! Love that you guys get along so well and it’s nice to see you coming out of your shell here on KZbin Jenna 😊

[@Gree263]

I love you guys together❤

[@zabavnaya-xt8tb]

Dallas would've never done what Aaron did, he's a keeper. Jenna please give Dallas a chance, he's the best man and a man of integrity, you both still have a chemistry, he is always very respectful, please give your marriage a 2nd chance 🙏🙏🙏 he's very protective of you unlike others

[@m_christine1070]

I second this!!!❤

[@pamelalugo1537]

💯enjoyed this video and read your book. 🙏💜

[@valkealy4919]

#Replaycrew You are both absolutely beautiful , compassionate humans! Sincere respect & admiration for both of you for doing this together. Your humility & honesty shines like a beacon of hope for all relationships & Friendships! What an authentic & inspirational gift you've both given to the internet! Wishing you both happieness & peace, as you continue your journeys of self discovery. Proud & grateful for you both. Xx

[@JennaMiscavige]

You are clearly a beautiful and compassionate human as well 💖 Thank you so much for your kindness and encouragement 💖 I hope you have a beautiful New Year!

[@zabavnaya-xt8tb]

23:20 white knight killed the cockroach 😂 Love when Jenna and Dallas make videos together, always super fun 💚

[@Andersonsdanish]

I think many of us have an all or nothing way of viewing things. Thanks for sharing. We are all a work in progress. 😊

[@TRIChuckles]

You guys work well together

[@nancystittgen]

I believe it was Aaron that I first heard speaking about his divorce as a successful marriage. It was the first time I'd heard such a healthy perspective. Scientology certainly hasn't won regarding you and Dallas. Not only were you successful in marriage and at parenthood, but you're now successful in divorce too. 💕

[@gailalbers1430]

Jenna you really show a lot of insight in this video - good job . Don’t let anybody use this open & honest conversation against you . This is important , that you see this - how your early abandonment by your parents at an early age affected you and you in relationships for example . Understanding this - and events that are restimulating your abandonment issues- a break up with an inappropriate partner for example - could be seen as a gift now, something to be mined for therapy. Like Michael Singer says: the crap we stuffed for years has to come up and we have to feel it again in order to be let go off and heal and get it out of your sphere,life.

[@jakkilong5283]

I do love your chemistry.

[@Kati-did]

Tallahassee! lol Two city names! I love that the two of you get a long so well. I am sure it took a lot to get there, so you should be proud!

[@mermaiddiyartist8119]

Hope he’s there for you while you’re healing from horrible Aaron ❤❤❤

[@lindaperales8907]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭💙💙💙💙💙💙 Lots of Love to you Jenna!

[@ktnworth]

Hi Jenna, so lovely to see you and hear your insights and reflections. You're an inspiration xx