What Really Happened on El Loco at Adventuredome March 25th 2019?

[@unknownuser7542]

I can't imagine how bad the ride ops must've felt after this. Because they followed all instructions, but a person was still hurt due to them dispatching the train. Very odd that S&S didnt take amputees into consideration

[@misseselise3864]

they did, just not leg amputees. but you would think that they’d think about leg amputees and not arm amputees when deciding rules for a ride with only a lap bar

[@skittlepuff]

Maybe they thought it would be common sense

[@Juicycroissanwich]

They said you need a hand to brace… like you can hold yourself into a coaster with your hands??? Only a lap bar, but never mentioned anything about people MISSING A LAP

[@andrewtaylor940]

@@misseselise3864 You would think they might have reviewed and revised them after that incident with the double amputee veteran who was ejected from a ride?

[@JeffreyPiatt]

They are supposed to when writing the manual somebody messed up.

[@smoffle]

so according to the original ride admissions policy you can't ride if you're scared of heights but you can ride if you've got no legs.. And it's written in comic sans

[@CoasterCollege]

S&S quality!

[@audigamer8261]

lol

[@KendrykWynn13]

Comic sans is a dyslexic-friendly font, it makes sense

[@247webgirl]

@@KendrykWynn13 sincere question because I am not dyslexic - what about Comic Sans makes it better than other fonts?

[@alexs3290]

@@247webgirl the letters are all shaped very different from each other, which makes the reader have to focus more on individual details in the letters. The inconsistency in the letters are also part of why it is hated. Comic Sans letters also look strange or deformed when next to letters from a more consistent font,

[@andyroman8223]

When I first rode El Loco, I was 10 years old and a little over the 48 inch height mark and I was astounded by how high the minimum lapbar position was. The lapbar was a good inch above my legs, and I can 100 guaruntee that the seatbelt was the main thing holding me in during the hangtime filled dive loops. Truly an awesome coaster. When I learned about someone falling off of El Loco, I wasn't too surprised tbh.

[@spookyblaylock8853]

This reminds me of my one and only time riding Ninja at six flags. I'll just say... im very lucky that coaster has a bottom because I as not safely in the seat I was assigned to when we returned to the station.

[@misseselise3864]

most places will determine you too big for a ride if the lap bar is touching your legs. you kinda need blood circulation

[@jeff.72681]

I’m pretty sure the seatbelt is supposed to be the only thing holding you that’s what makes it scary

[@southwest.air.luvflyer]

same here I'm honestly suspired it didn't happen sooner

[@me-myself-i787]

​@@spookyblaylock8853 Which Six Flags? There's one at Magic Mountain and one at St Louis. And there's probably more that I've forgotten about.

[@deanderose4931]

I am a recent right leg amputee (no prosthesis yet), and I have to come to terms with the fact that some coasters simply won't be rideable anymore.

[@blah7983]

You’re less affected than you think! I know that for Busch Gardens Florida for example, the only ride where you wouldn’t be able to ride is Iron Gwazi (RMC coasters in general). Everything else will have a 3 point harness system or it’s already safe for you to ride. It’s at least true for Cedar Fair parks and Busch Gardens. Might not be allowed on the swinging claw type rides but most roller coasters have some level of accessibility. Prosthetics generally aren’t allowed but that doesn’t mean you can’t ride! Honestly probably better off with a wheelchair at the park but you could also remove the prosthetic before and after.

[@deanderose4931]

@blah7983 Thanks for the information! I'll be taking a trip to San Diego to see friends and family, so I'll be my old stomping grounds: Disneyland, Universal, Knotts, and Magic Mountain. Magic Mountain is the one that will be a challenge, I won't be able Tatsu and Riddler.

[@SuperDestroyerFox]

@@deanderose4931did it go well and you could ride most rides you wanted to

[@s1nnersneversleep]

“was operating normally” the little voice in my head: not for long

[@chad9166]

The coaster was operating normally. the unlimbed person was not. They should have known better

[@k9feces]

Glad she survived and hopefully without major injuries.

[@teamofsteve]

Damn it man. At least put ***spoiler*** at the start of your comment. Saw your comment before I watched the video.

[@infamousNfamous]

@@teamofsteve THAT'S your biggest concern here?

[@teamofsteve]

@@infamousNfamous welcome to KZbin

[@Astinsan]

There were major injuries.. she was ejected at above 20 feet.

[@andrewhanson1180]

@@Perich29 *picture*

[@DanielHarmer]

I was part of the Opening Crew for the Green Lantern at Movie World in 2011, which used the same lap bars as El Loco. As part of the standard operating procedure it required all riders to have at least one fully functioning lower limb and the 2nd one had to be past the knee at the least to ride. This was written into the manual provided by S+S to the park. Very strange that it wasn’t stated in the manual for this coaster.

[@thenumber1_gamer538]

“S+S”

[@wendyjaa]

When reading what you put as the rider restrictions, I thought that it was very strange that it didn't mention that riders could not have amputations above the knee. You'd think that the whole industry would have learned after what happened to the double amputee at Darien Lake. Big oof on S&S.

[@Ellie-rx3jt]

And then they changed it so that someone with a below the knee amputation can't ride either, so it can't have been just marginally unsafe.

[@DJgregBrown]

No common sense, it is as simple as that.

[@appalachianenthusiast9499]

If the restraint were to include a vest like some B&Ms and GaleForce, then I don't think a restriction on amputees would be necessary. Also, the ride could have a special harness for amputees like on Vekoma Flying Dutchmen.

[@CoasterCollege]

Those B&Ms and Galeforce still have a restriction on amputations. B&M does make a vest for amputees but its not very practical.

[@AddATudez]

@@CoasterCollege That's definitely an area where the industry can improve then. I work in video game design, and we've had to go through similar things (learning how to be more inclusive to different disabilities), and -usually- when innovating along those lines you not only end up improving the experience for disabled customers but also improve the experience for non-disabled ones too.

[@CoasterCollege]

@@AddATudez in general, there is no practical way to make roller coasters more accessible. Slower rides have come a long way in recent years, but it simply cannot be done on roller coasters without major sacrifices to ride experience or capacity.

[@NickyD]

rides arent made for amputees

[@NickyD]

@@AddATudez not how it works rides arent made for it there is a reason why it will never happen cough cough superman now this

[@fawkesrocks]

I’ve ridden this several times, a few times as a kid before this accident and a few times thereafter in 2020. I remember the lap bars being so loose, and the latching points were very far apart, so the bar always felt loose .As an adult I am able to push it down a lot closer but it still feels loose. The loop after the final break run in the worst. You come to a near stop as the train crawls through the loop and finally comes into the station. I get enjoying hang time, but not that slow. Once as a kid I partly slipped out from the lap bar, with only my seat belt and grip truly holding me in place. To their credit I was a skinny kid, but it still freaked me out. And even after that and as an adult you feel like you’re going to slip out. Clearly the ride is safe if an investigation has been done but I just wish they would give it an over the shoulder restraint like every other major coaster on the strip (canyon blaster and Big Apple I’m looking at you). As a side note, they renovated the big Apple coaster, it still is a rough mess of a ride. While the new restraints and trains are better, it still left me with bruises for days.

[@southwest.air.luvflyer]

Really? When I went on Big Apple it did not bruise me at all. maybe I just got super lucky but yeah, EL Loco is something i probably will never ride again as i have been nearly hit by objects that were flung out of pockets and the ending was not fun for me i was holding on for dear life and i started to slip out,

[@samfrito]

El Loco final upside-down portion is sadistically slow. My daughter and I rode it back in 2016 and she thought that part was great. I rode it two or three times that day and it was not my favorite part of the ride at all

[@sawyer9969]

i wasn't hurt by the big apple but it sounds like i was lucky...

[@hueqo]

OMG YES the lap bar is so freaking loose when I went on it and I genuinely felt like I was gonna fall out

[@michaeltaylor1603]

As a former Six Flags ride op. Detailed in the manual for each attraction that that had restraints. The rider MUST have enough "limb" to safely fit under the restraint. Lap bar, shoulder harness, seat belt etc. It's also a 'two way street" I ride op CAN refuse a ride to park guest (or Supervisor/ manager) If the guest safety is in question. #2 Even If rider "meets" all SAID requirements, but feel the ride may be unsafe for them, once they are "secured" on the ride (can ask to exit before ride dispatch) An intoxicated or person under the influence may ALSO be barred from taking that ride as well. I could site some examples of this that has happened.

[@kikicogger2284]

This honestly seems like a no-win situation. If the operator had refused to let her ride, the operator could have been sued for discrimination. But as we see, allowing her to ride caused injury. I can understand why the (most likely underpaid) operator decided to simply follow protocol.

[@sage5296]

I don’t think they would be sued for discrimination as it’s a matter of safety

[@selanryn5849]

@@sage5296 Universal Studios got sued and only won because they showed they were following the manufacturer's operating instructions as required by law in California. This manufacturer didn't exclude amputees from the ride.

[@nrdythugg4102]

I can't belive the original ride manual. I mean wtf, they say you should have at least one full arm, but no legs are fine? I wish the operators where more restrictive and would have known how dangerous it is, if riders don't have two full legs.

[@heilmadon]

Often saftey guides are written in blood, why limit something if you don't have to. but yeah most restraints need the legs for bracing

[@GiordanDiodato]

they'd be threatened with an ADA lawsuit. that's why

[@adde9506]

Whether or not you need two full legs depends on the design of the restraints.

[@sarahrichardson3692]

I have been on green lantern at Movie World many times, I actually find it one of the scariest coasters I’ve ever ridden simply because it’s designed to make you feel like you will fall out. I am a heavy person and after my last experience I have decided that I won’t ride it again, the lap bar did fit on my thighs but only just, I wouldn’t say it was a snug fit. While I was going around I really felt like I was going to fall out at the part where it holds you upside down. If it wasn’t for the seat belt I think I probably would have, my ridding position definitely changed after being held upside down and I was terrified going into the next loop. Lesson well learnt and one of the only coasters I will never ride again.

[@JLWGames]

I can't believe it had nothing in the manual about leg amputations. This is probably the most important rider requirement! I'm a ride operator myself and our manual for every ride all have this listed. for instance my ride requires you have 2 full natural legs including feet as the ride locks you in by your legs. most of the other rides doesn't allow amputations above the knee. If your manual doesn't list this I would bring it up to someone immediately because that's a huge issue.

[@blah7983]

My park allowed people with below-the-knee amputations on most rides with an added three point harness allowing most amputees to ride safely. With some exceptions most amputees could ride most things, especially if it was a single amputation.

[@boomerleo89]

I remember posting about this about a year ago or so. Nice video. About what I expected to hear since I lived in Vegas and there wasn't much released when it happened. Good video like usual.

[@johnathonlee7053]

Everytime I watch one of these videos I somehow expect the worst to happen but in this case it wasn’t all that bad (relatively speaking). Rider was ejected, rider is expected to fully recover, investigation reveals an oversight in ride eligibility, oversight was fixed with no further issue. Good ending this time around which is nice.

[@CoasterCollege]

Indeed, ride accidents tend to be over hyped by the media, most of the time they are relatively minor things.

[@thestoopid]

People didn’t learn their lesson from what happened with Superman. Rip but smh I’m happy the girl survived it.

[@CoasterCollege]

Superman at least had a clear defined policy that excluded leg amputations from riding.

[@zack9777]

I remember at my old job a jersey boardwalk park, we had something called a boarding pass which is used for disabled guests to see what rides they can go on safely

[@CoasterCollege]

That's a common system, adventuredome has it as well and it was used by this guest to board El loco.

[@zack9777]

@@CoasterCollege oh,yeah S&S really messed up then

[@mrsolarsun7174]

Can you please make What Really Happened the Verrückt Waterslide at Schlitterbahn Water Park August 7th 2016?

[@CoasterCollege]

At some point, yes.

[@mrsolarsun7174]

@@CoasterCollege Thanks.

[@cruehead23]

Fascinating Horror has a good video about that

[@youukaaa]

no idea if you’re still wondering but it’s done now!

[@ballslickeramongus]

Missed these vids!!! Glad it came out :D

[@aequus2196]

0:42 did this manual seriously just forbid people with a fear of heights from riding but failed to mention different kinds of amputees?

[@WHBasketball]

I'm doing my collage, form presentation on this accident. If it wasn't for this video I would've had no idea where to start. Thank you so much 🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@CoasterCollege]

@WHBasketball glad I could help, I have this accident report and others on the community tab of my channel if you need more information!

[@WHBasketball]

@CoasterCollege oh wow I hadn't even realised, I'll go take a look now! Thank you so much! I honestly dont know what I wouldve done 😅. Sidenote: I watch too many of your videos from this series before going to theme parks 😭

[@coolcoastercreations7680]

[3:46] I’m glad S&S changed that. When I rode El Loco in January of 2019, the Lap bar felt way to loose.

[@fawkesrocks]

I ride it both pre and post modification, and it still feels loose, though not as bad. The end loop is taken way too slow and I always feel like the only thing holding me in is the seat belt. That ride seriously needs some over the shoulder restraints

[@RideManDave]

Just a little background info for you… The Ride Admission Policy is operational, and is therefore determined by the Owner/Operator of the Amusement Ride or Device as part of the standard operating procedure which the Owner/Operator is compelled to develop in accordance with ASTM F770:6, based on recommended instructions and specifications provided by the manufacturer. Section 6.3 explicitly permits the Owner/Operator to deny entry to an amusement ride or device in order to avoid jeopardizing the safety of either the person desiring to ride, or other individuals to whom this person may present a hazard. ASTM F770-21:6.3.1 explicitly states that ride operators are to be given “guidelines on the special considerations concerning patron size, and the special considerations applicable to physically disabled and mentally impaired patrons.” I am not sure when 6.3.1 was added so it may not have applied to El Loco. Now, ASTM F2291 is the Standard Practice for Design of Amusement Rides and Devices, and it applies to the manufacturer. Section 5 requires that the manufacturer perform a Ride Analysis as part of the design process. Sections 5.1.4(1) and 5.1.4(2) are the Patron Suitability Assessment and the Patron Restraint and Containment Analysis (referenced in the video as part of S&S’s response to the incident) and are a required part of the Ride Analysis which, if you read through F2291, drives the entire design process. In particular, the Patron Suitability Assessment is intended to describe the intended patrons of the amusement ride or device, “including anthropometric factors that relate age and physical size.” What this means is that the Designer/Engineer is responsible for figuring out how to restrain the rider (as described in the Patron Suitability Assessment) against the expected ride forces in accordance with the guidelines found in ASTM F2291:6. In other words, yes, S&S should have caught this at the design stage. They should have identified the ejection hazard presented by a rider with insufficient lower body mass, and as they did not mitigate that hazard through the design of the restraint, they should have included that restriction in the ride documentation. One further thought. In the absence of prosthetics, did this rider meet the 48” height requirement? Could S&S have assumed that a double amputee would not meet the height requirement and would therefore be denied access on that basis?

[@CoasterCollege]

Thanks for the insight, it's definitely possible S&S assumed riders with hazardous lower body amputations wouldn't meet the height requirement. But in my opinion and experience as an operator that seems really vague and hard to train.

[@RideManDave]

@@CoasterCollege I agree with you. Especially knowing that on many rides the height requirement is not based on the restraint requirements but is rather a surrogate for an age (=maturity) requirement and F2291-21:5.1,4(1) practically says as much. But per F2291:6 this is a Class 5 ride. We can see in the video you used that there are places on that ride which apply a sustained (defined in ASTM F2291-21:7.4.2 as =>200 milliseconds duration) acceleration of -1Gz. This ride needs to positively restrain any rider you can put on the thing, and if you’re going to do it with a rigid lap bar (in my opinion actually a very effective way to do it), you need to understand how that lap bar cooperates with the seat and the configuration of the human body to keep the rider from coming out: it depends on the thigh not being able to clear the bottom of the lap bar even if the torso is pitched forward and up. That’s usually accomplished by that limb being too long to come out in the limited space gained by lifting the torso. That reasoning would seem to exclude a double leg amputee. I don’t really want to know how S&S missed that. Or, if we give them the benefit of the doubt, why it never made it into their manual.

[@FracturedOrigins]

@@RideManDave bad QC is my guess. I used to write engineering SOPs (software and hardware) for a fab, and our quality engineers were more nitpicky about the grammar I used than the technical aspect. Of course I'd ask another software/ hardware person to QC but things sometimes get overlooked, especially if you did not design the system you are writing the document for.

[@alexandergeorge2063]

I can only assume the ride admission policy being in comic sans contributed somehow

[@CoasterCollege]

Honestly

[@RiderLeangle2]

Comic sans in the manual is a major safety concern, you look at it and see it's in comic sans there's no way you're able to take it seriously

[@andyroman8223]

Comic sans is a very dislexic friendly font, so its actually a genius move when you think about it.

[@bob8mybobbob]

So strange that a coaster with only a lap bar would have specifications for arm amputees but not leg.

[@ThrillRidez]

Just glad that the rider survived the fall. Definitely a lesson for S&S and the park.

[@kingskand]

It becomes a physics equation for every "body"...the center of gravity of each body will change as limbs are missing...which throws off the equation of most lap bar restraints to be successful in it's one job. Considering just about everyone includes rollercoasters in studying physics, it seems obvious to me that - unless pinned as part of the car - the risk is too high for amputees to slip free?

[@goldmanfan504]

I absolutely loved this coaster. I really hope she has fully recovered:(

[@laylafoodwizard9505]

Thank you for another one of these videos! Hopefully you can do the accident at Adventureland in Iowa one day

[@CoasterCollege]

Once a full report is available!

[@laylafoodwizard9505]

@@CoasterCollege awesome thank you !

[@aquaatem1]

I don't like lap bar restraints on rides that go upside down or loop. It just looks like someone can easily slip out of their seat.

[@CoasterCollege]

Under normal conditions, its just as safe as an over the shoulder restraint.

[@blueflare3848]

I agree with you. I feel much safer when upside down roller coasters have over-the-shoulder restraints.

[@koldkutgirl]

watching the ride video in this-im kinda surprised there isnt a shoulder bar to strap you in place. youre upside down for a prolonged period of time. a lap bar isnt safe enough to stop someone sliding out while upside down in my opinion.

[@thehardercandy]

It is safe though. It wouldn't be operating if it wasn't.

[@fawkesrocks]

I agree. As a younger kid I’ve partly slipped from the lap bad and been only held in place by the seat belt.

[@cruehead23]

I had no idea this had happened. I actually went on El Loco in November of 2020 and enjoyed it much more than Canyon Blaster. Crazy to think.

[@naarahjanemorris3121]

Thanks for another Video I'm glad she survived I hope She didn't receive more Injuries.

[@skyeperez8305]

As a Vegas local, I don’t touch El Loco. I’ll go on rickety Canyon Blaster but the rumors around it after this accident just scared me away from it. A lot of the rumors were the ride vehicle came off the track; someone was decapitated; someone flew out of the ride (likely almost happened if they’re allowing people with no legs on when the only restraint is a lap bar); a kid was shaken so violently they had a concussion, etc.

[@thehardercandy]

It's not that bad. I rode it and it was just like any other coaster. If you have all your limbs you don't be ejected from the ride.

[@fawkesrocks]

I’ve ridden it. I hate it. You do get shaken up pretty bad, but the Big Apple coaster is worse. My one quip is that the Laos bars are terribly designed. They don’t go nearly far enough downward, and the latching points are super far apart. They also sit really low on your body, like you’d see on a non looping coaster, and so there’s nothing to hold you to your seat in the X axis outside of your legs. And the last two loops after the final break run are sooooo slow, I have slipped partly from my lap bar when I was a kid, but the seat belt and my good grip saved me. Until gravity pulled me back down. And even when you aren’t actually slipping in the restraint, the ten seconds of just slowly hanging there makes you feel like you’re gonna slip out

[@southwest.air.luvflyer]

El Loco is worse than the big apple in my eyes. I have done both (given i did have to get shots in my arm beforehand on big apple) and big apple was by far better i felt safe in that rickety old thing, but EL Loco felt like it was going to kill me

[@joeeckroth2932]

I'm surprised that considerations weren't made for leg amputees earlier especially after the superman/ride of steel incident (I can't remember which one it was)

[@southwest.air.luvflyer]

Honestly I'm not surprised that someone fell off considering how violent the turns are. I don't remember how old I was when I first went on it but I do remember being just barely above the height requirement and having to basically hold myself in the ride

[@Derangedlefty]

You were never in any danger, it just felt like you were. I ride this ride 15 times in one day, hands up all the way and not for a second did I feel like I was in any danger. Hundreds of thousands of people have ridden this roller coaster and yet this has only happened once, and it was because the rider was a double amputee.

[@southwest.air.luvflyer]

@@Derangedlefty I personally hate those kinds of rides as I feel unsafe on them. I know I'm not in any danger but I still felt like it. On the other hand though the other ride Canyon Blaster is the best

[@hannibalbarca6308]

Heard 'double amputee' and thats all needed to know.

[@Legacy-sw7bv]

"[Ride at location] was operating normally... until it wasn't.... or maybe it was, find out in a few minutes."

[@CoasterCollege]

If I ever do merch, "was operating normally" is going on a shirt!

[@eevee8378]

@@CoasterCollege Welp, time to invent time travel to get that shirt now!

[@AmauryGarciaCumming]

Should do a video on that incident with California Screamin' (now Incredicoaster) in Anaheim, California, where one of the trains rear-ended another one due to a brake block failure.

[@leesullivan1916]

As a Dissabled person (with 4 full limbs) I can't understand why someone without 2 or maybe 1 full lower limbs would choose to or be permitted to ride. (Not able to brace against the floor) thankfully she lived and the industry learned a lesson.

[@gemfyre855]

Considering the circumstances, it's quite possible she asked if it was safe for her to ride and she was told yes, because the manual didn't say she couldn't.

[@leesullivan1916]

@@gemfyre855 You completely miss my point...

[@ayajade6683]

@@leesullivan1916 I think she should have had enough common sense to see maybe it would be a bad idea regardless of what a manual told her

[@childofcascadia]

And she was supposed to know its a bad idea how? Some coasters are perfectly fine for amputees to ride, some are not, and some are ok only if you have x amounts of limbs or limb length on your remaining limb. If you are an amputee you arent going to know which is which unless you read the manual/rules or ask a park employee.

[@leesullivan1916]

@@childofcascadia if you know you can't brace yourself because it's only a lap bar obviously not a problem with OHR.

[@dindog22]

does Indiana Beach have this type of coaster?

[@247webgirl]

Yes! Steel Hawg is an S&S El Loco 6 years older than this “El Loco”

[@8bits59]

Add to the list of crimes the fact that the manual was written in *comic freaking sans* of all things, when it's meant to be a document that needs to be taken seriously.

[@medea27]

I think this & similar accidents are on the _park executives_ - not ride ops, park management or the manufacturer. Execs continue to demand the most extreme rides as drawcards while ignoring the reality that these rides will have lower ridership. The manufacturer will simply build whatever you ask for… so this leaves ride ops to deal with the unrealistic expectations of the general public. I’m 100% for park accessibility by _anyone_ but safety is far more important & the rules for riders need to be _simple to understand & enforce._ Once you’re quibbling about what part of each limb you need to have to ride _it’s too complex._ I completely appreciate the frustration of someone who can’t enjoy certain rides because I’m one of them…. yes it’s annoying, but you just deal with it. That's life. What’s _more_ annoying is doing the ‘walk of shame’ because the ridership rules are so complicated you don't know if they apply to you until you get to the platform... and the poor ride ops are left 2nd guessing what's safe. The park’s execs & owners need to take ownership of making their parks safe & inclusive by ensuring it's a place where neither park staff/ride ops nor park guests are left embarrassed or pressured.

[@pickles3128]

I wonder how many people go on these rides knowing that they are not supposed to? I got very sick and developed a tricuspid regurgitation ( a minor heart condition) but multiple cardiologists have told me I'm in the clear for going on roller coasters.

[@zebraloverbridget]

That's why they don't ask you about your health conditions to gain entry. You are allowed to make the final decision on if it is worth the risk or not. The policy against certain conditions that can't be seen is more for liability. That way if something does happen the park isn't responsible for it.

[@lincolnnn_]

2 years since this happened. honestly crazy

[@icychill105]

This happened one week before i went to las vegas so it was weird to come into the adventure dome and see a whole coaster closed

[@SpuddyPotato]

Coaster college u a real one

[@goopegoop]

i love this ride, i rode it last year and it was awesome. i’m so glad that it was able to remain open and that the person made it out ok. you would think they’d know not to let an amputee on a roller coaster without OTSRs

[@malachimarko7963]

I rode this and I was a small ass kid and was tight in there which was super suprising that I was ok after hearing this

[@Eggish3]

Great video!

[@aquadragondavanin6745]

i rode on el loco (and canyon blasters) this past december and i felt like i was going to be thrown out the side of the coaster at times. is that normal? unlike the person who was ejected, i have no amputations.

[@AmusementParkGuy]

What happen on the drop tower at icon park?

[@nidhisinha8745]

Bro the incident at the drop tower the n icon park was almost exactly 3 years later, didn’t you realize

[@gnarthdarkanen7464]

Just remember, the objective of rides like this is to SCARE the f*** out of you, NOT get you killed or beat all to sh*t and laid face down on or under the tracks... ;o)

[@fredleggett923]

I'm confused about something. She was a double-amputee with NO prosthetics? How did she get into the vehicle? Did she somehow transfer herself from out of her wheelchair on her own or did someone carry and seat her in the vehicle?

[@brandoncole5533]

Glad that she survived this

[@princesskristan]

I almost rode this with my brother when we went to Vegas with family 4 months before this happened but we didn't because it was too expensive.

[@rublie1426]

Are you or your brother amputated? If not, the ride is perfectly safe, of course...

[@ZeldaTheSwordsman]

So, S&S screwed up the original admission policy for this pretty badly by not specifying anything regarding leg amputations... Possibly one of the worst failures regarding restraints since Intamin's dodgy harness for Wing Commander

[@Forge_595]

And I stayed at circus circus a few days later for spring break, not knowing why the coaster was closed. Now I know

[@yeseniamarin5725]

my question is how can braces affect riding a ride?? 😅🤕

[@CoasterCollege]

I believe it's referring to arm/leg braces

[@joshualfalken]

bruv why are the instructions in comic sans

[@HardPourCorn]

Because your safety is a joke. 😂

[@lilithbaker4938]

i rode this with a girl next to me, she was tall enough but very skinny, the lap bar was very loose, and in mutipule parts of the ride she would put her legs up to anchor herself because the lap bar would almost fully come off of her, i could tell she was not having fun

[@oliverpolregno7801]

You should do the ttd incident in 2021

[@CoasterCollege]

The official accident report on the 8/15/21 accident involving Top Thrill Dragster is now out. Out of respect for many of my close friends who were personally affected by this accident I will not be covering it in a video any time soon. However, to combat the huge amount of misinformation surrounding this event I encourage you to read or just skim through the report (linked below). The report is full of great information that will allow you to really understand what happened, without all the Facebook speculation. It's 620 pages long, but a good summary of the events can be obtained by reading the first few pages. I hope you understand my reason for avoiding this accident for the time being. Accident report: www.scribd.com/document/55981...

[@YurBoiCarson]

Do you plan on making a what really happened on Xcelerator on September 16, 2009?

[@CoasterCollege]

No, not as of right now.

[@davedoesthingsdreaded]

I like canyon blaster more. The restraints on El Loco are so uncomfortable

[@skyeperez8305]

Canyon blaster is fun but god help you if you’re short at all because my head always smacks the restraints on the ride.

[@nidhisinha8745]

Yea and almost 3 years later another accident happened on the Orlando free fall

[@lumineer_3]

I actually rode this with my step dad but after I soon felt this ride was way too rough

[@bigman-qj5ln]

Love you vids

[@cassielcruzchavolla809]

Weird the manual didn't mention legs given as it was a lap bar restraint honestly huge oversight and I would have thought the employees would have noticed it alas they were just doing their job and technically did nothing wrong.

[@halley42]

You know you're in trouble when the safety policy is in Comic Sans.

[@CoasterCollege]

Apparently it's a dyslexic friendly font.

[@Saturnthroughstars]

Pretty sad that most coasters aren't ADA friendly :/

[@CoasterCollege]

Sadly it's just not practical in most cases.

[@timk987]

Actually since 1990 new American coasters are compliant with things like wider queues and elevators to loading platforms. Many older coasters have been brought into compliance as well with regards to accessing the ride itself. However, certain disabilities still cannot ride out of safety. It's not discrimination because they're disabled, it's a protective measures for themselves, others and in some cases even the property. It's not unlike able bodied people being too short or too tall, or even just the wrong body type. So while it may be sad that not all who want to ride can, it not because the coasters aren't ADA "friendly."

[@Saturnthroughstars]

@@timk987 Disagree. By technical terms, it is discrimination since you have to refuse a group of people from riding, even if it's for safety reasons, not prejudice. Don't sugarcoat the situation.

[@timk987]

@@Saturnthroughstars People are not permitted to ride on a case by case determination. It’s not about any group not being permitted. There are million of disabled people who’ve ridden coasters.

[@Saturnthroughstars]

@@timk987 Amputees aren't a group of people? Huh?

[@roseprevost8081]

Part of the problem is that parks are afraid of getting sued for discrimination when they don't allow people who shouldn't ride do so. Sorry, but I'd rather have a guest mad than injured or dead. Remember what happened to the guy with no legs whose gamily caused a stink because he wasn't allowed to ride the Superman ride? They let him on, he fell out and was killed. Then they supposedly sued anyway. There's no winning.

[@CoasterCollege]

Very different situation there, this was wholly due to the ride manufacture.

[@skittlepuff]

Why would someone with no legs ride a rollercoaster that goes upside down with a lap bar being the restraint….. come on now. Think

[@Derangedlefty]

Always trust an instruction manual written in Comic Sans

[@BalakayDaBomb]

I’ve been on that ride before :o I was pretty young at the time so I don’t really remember any of it but it was pretty cool

[@angeleyes65707]

wait i now know this right after i go on this?

[@ZachAttackIsBack]

Surely someone could have figured out this wasn't a smart idea. Did they really need a manual to spell out this specific situation to make the safe call? When in doubt, wouldn't it make sense to err on the side of caution?

[@CoasterCollege]

If I were in the operators shoes, I couldn't really ask the rider to not ride as there was nothing in my training or manuals that I could reference as being the reason for her being unable to ride.

[@AralynStCrow]

I just watched another double amputee coaster accident. This kind of situation seems like it should definitely be reviewed....

[@kj2369]

Jesus Christ, march 25th is my birthday. That was my 16th birthday, and I never knew that it had happened

[@misseselise3864]

it sounds like her family doesn’t blame the operator or ride itself

[@goodreverend2k1]

This was truly an accident.

[@Skye-Cabbit]

It is s really fun ride. Real shame they didn’t think to add details about amputees to the admission policy. This could’ve been prevented

[@SerenaSchizophrenic]

I rode it and I can 100% understand how she fell out there should really be shoulder restraints on this coaster

[@Derangedlefty]

The lap bars are perfectly safe. The ride is meant to make you feel like you’re going to fall out, but in reality, they’re perfectly safe. Hundreds of thousands of people have ridden this roller coaster and only one person fell out and it’s because they were an amputee. I’m glad this ride only has a lap bar, as over the shoulder restraints would be very uncomfortable on this ride

[@sugarcanewt]

Ayyy I love this series!

[@CoasterCollege]

Thanks for watching!

[@BillyRamirez]

I wonder how seriously safety restrictions written in Comic Sans are taken.

[@damegataco]

Person with fear of hights should not ride? Why?... Are they going to die from being afraid of hights? Wouldn't that be a good way to create exposure therapy to experience hights in a safe situation? Especially such hights that aren't really that high? Wierd

[@adde9506]

Ride restraints should not involve the active participation of the rider. If someone passes out, they should be just as safe as a conscious rider. Maybe a little more bruised, but safe. "At least one functional hand and arm for bracing" is a manufacturing defect. On the other hand, I don't really see that legs need to be present below the knee if there is no contact with the restraints below the knee. Every rider should look at the restraints and think, "Is that going to keep me in there?" And every ride operator should look at every rider and consider the same. Whether it's in the manual or not, if it looks sketchy, it probably is. It's better to waste someone's time calling a supervisor or mechanic for a more experienced opinion than to waste their life. A major part of operator training should be HOW to tell someone they have to wait or leave, not just to do it.

[@CoasterCollege]

The bracing will not be the difference between a rider being restrained and not. It's included in most ride RAPs to stop injury caused by sudden slowdowns or acceleration.

[@Deedeeindeed902]

Can you do one on the accident in dream-world Australia on the wild wild west ride

[@stpbasss3773]

I've been to the Circus Circus theme park a couple times. I always noticed that hotel smelled like puke 🤢, just a random fact about Circus Circus 😂.

[@EstorilEm]

I hate to play devils advocate here, but if I’m missing legs and / or critical leverage to keep me inside a roller coaster, maybe I shouldn’t jump in one? This just seems like an “I can do anything!” moment, but…. You can’t.

[@fishyboi3853]

Finally

[@CoasterCollege]

It was delayed due to the state of Nevada taking forever to publish an accident report.

[@fishyboi3853]

@@CoasterCollege 👍

[@DuckyAndFriendsOfficial]

When i saw person with fear of hights that's me even my sis gave me a waring

[@terratoilet2]

I HAD A DREAM ABOUT THIS 😧

[@JrsBoatRocker]

The Comic Sans in such an important manuel is taking me out 😂😑

[@ayajade6683]

It's often used as it's a dyslexia friendly font which ironically has lead to why it's mocked with the letters being so different

[@clockside]

@@ayajade6683 There are other dyslexia-friendly fonts out there that don't look like a young child's handwriting. It's hated and made fun of because it looks childish (and thus also immature and/or unprofessional), it has bad design, and it can actually be quite difficult to read sometimes too (like a small child's handwriting), not because it was one of the first mainstream fonts that made life a lot easier for dyslexic folks. I don't think comic sans should get a pass on being a crappy font just because it currently has widespread availability (which is only due to being pre-installed on certain popular technology). Dyslexic folks deserve much, much better than comic sans.

[@ayajade6683]

@@clockside and that changes what about it being a dyslexic friendly font? Congrats you went on a rant about a font for no reason maybe pick up a hobby with your free time instead

[@lk_dslr1951]

Never ask a man his net worth a women her weight or where a El Loco was on March 25th 2019

[@PlatinumEagleStudios]

The typical GP: THIS MAKES COASTERS UNSAFE i'M NEVER GOING ON THEM AGAIN!!!

[@Patexer]

Fr

[@gurgleguy]

why is the manual in *COMIC SANS*

[@goodemily]

This doesn’t surprise me. When he first started, he got a lot of flack for his style. Guessing he realized that others were more successful so he copied them. You didn’t just read the manual. It was your own words. And he totally stole them.

[@Wrekt330]

My son and I went on this ride in 2018. At 9 years old he was on the lower end of the height requirements but he did meet it. I swear the operator had not tightened his lap bar close enough to his body to keep him in because while we're upside down hanging, he started screaming that he was slipping out. If I wasn't completely reaching over and holding him into his seat with every bit of strength I had, I believe he would have fallen out. This ride is very dangerous.

[@kayleedinkel8662]

When I was around 9 I was short for my age and my twin was way taller than me. A lot of ride operators felt bad that I was too short to ride and let me on anyways. I remember my dad having a death grip on me one time because I was slipping out of the restrains but I didn’t care, I loved the thrill and didn’t understand the dangers of it. I’m extremely lucky nothing bad ever happened.

[@FuriosasWarRig]

YESSSS I LOVE THESE