What REALLY HAPPENED On The OTV "PVP" Server

[@SerWinter]

Video is long, people probably won't watch the whole thing, but for those of you who do, you'll see I wasn't an asshole on a rampage, but rather quite friendly and nice. The information that caused all of the drama is at the start. Time stamps are on for those of you who want to skip through. Washing my hands of this now. Also, it was a *thompson* and an mp5 I heard in the train clip, not a custom. Sorry Rust chads.

[@NE0Ntheidiot]

hi

[@buildify9593]

Don’t worry Winter, we know it wasn’t you, Winter isn’t toxic

[@CharCharCoolKid]

How could someone with such a satisfying voice be the "wanker" these simps lords deem him?

[@fluke7506]

Non of these people have played public servers clearly lol

[@juandoe2994]

You dont owe them any explanation but I appreciate you trying to. Hope all is will

[@venorustyy2100]

Xqc killing someone: thanks for loot kid Xqc getting killed: this is anti-fun dude

[@TraeSMR]

Xqc ruining someone's RP by trolling non stop on a GTA RP server: Haha get fucked kid. Xqc getting killed on the PVP side of an RP/PVP server: Way to ruin the game for me...

[@bymsers3321]

honestly i like watching Xqc, but he just doesn't know how to take an L

[@umplayful]

hes a child

[@venorustyy2100]

@@bymsers3321 facts

[@agnidas5816]

@@umplayful don't use age as a diss

[@maniac5877]

The T-bag he talked about is literally how rust players loot. never stand still.

[@kujo4723]

yeah exactly, the first thing i do when looting is crouch, look down and hover loot everything asap

[@GenerationalDisappointment]

Exactly that really got me. Instead of trying to understand why he's doing something, they go to worst case scenario.

[@xyz1890]

fr bro😂 go into any game you have pvp and you can loot you’re doing that

[@thekingofkingsrp]

That goes for all these games pubg,dayz rust wtf would you stand still

[@uslph.]

@@xyz1890 well... not tarkov

[@manoman5091]

Rust is the perfect environment to bring out the true character of people.

[@Droctog]

I remember playing on your unturned rust server, now I'm 800 hours into rust. You should really make some videos on it

[@Calebtheboss]

Nah rust brings out the worst

[@skye7218]

yeah if you’ve ever been on savas when it was good you’ll know. but the mainstream streamers couldn’t handle rust i knew it from the start it’s funny

[@barbary13]

No it brings out toxicity

[@archiewalters3633]

ayy unturnov guy

[@justanaveragehuman8783]

Its cool coming back a year later and the rust community is still on your side heavy, more than 75% of the streamers quit the game because how garbage they were at basic skills

[@v1b3z77]

Glad to hear they won't be wasting other people's time by playing the game and having their followers send more stupid death threats

[@yeahokaybud264]

It was all for the views and drama

[@artemisgaming7625]

It's genuinely hillarious how delusional the rust community is. The narrative seems to be the big evil streamers left and suddenly rust was fine again, when it's more like the cancerous community and bitch ass content creators that couldn't follow simple rules made rust fall right back into no one giving a fuck about it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@maxkirchgessner468]

or maybe they quit because they are variety streamers and switch games often. But idk though

[@v1b3z77]

​@@maxkirchgessner468 That's surely a part of it, but I don't think they would've completely quit the game because of that

[@zephyrscofield1008]

I'm sorry, killing people on a pvp server without a Million subs? Disgusting.

[@meoremeryaiman3714]

What? I honestly dont know what your talking about :v also pls dont r/woosh me

[@hippohippo9344]

@@meoremeryaiman3714 than you didn't watch the video. Basically all these big streamers are spoiled little babies with huge who's and treat "small" streamers like trash. In a nutshell trainwrecker and xqc r jerks

[@Starman062]

@@hippohippo9344 y’all realize it’s a joke right? He’s making a joke that he isn’t popular enough to kill them.

[@hippohippo9344]

@@Starman062 yes I understand the joke lmao did you see who I @d in my last comment

[@cz5629]

@@meoremeryaiman3714 woooosh

[@Treepuncher1211]

I'm not even a Ser winter fan but the way he finessed that horse man, i gotta respect it

[@noxxargus2313]

@@hunterprice5055 bcuz it was both 5head and funny as shit

[@Treepuncher1211]

@@hunterprice5055 it was clever and stylish. I would’ve 100% fallen for it

[@marcusjuhasz3501]

That was CLEAN as fuck!

[@cheva1]

@@hunterprice5055 It was hilarious what are you talking about

[@acreativename2781]

@@hunterprice5055 fat sweaty nerd talking about honor, hilarious :D

[@WalcomS7]

Wow that Trainwreck dude is legit salty and toxic as hell.

[@marcusaurilius5127]

He likes a little sniff if you know what i mean, his ego was hurting.

[@WalcomS7]

@@marcusaurilius5127 Wonder what he's feeling he needs to compensate for. His reaction was completely out of line, even if he had been killed a dozen times previous to that engagement. Shou.d have banned him off the server the second that happened.

[@rudeusgreyrat615]

Trainwreck has that official server toxicity. Not even kidding, It's pretty close to the amount of BS I heard from clan with big heads you managed to make a play on.

[@jconor5579]

U know this ban wasn’t just about the incident with train, right?

[@mannygo6804]

@@jconor5579 whats your point?

[@leadkiss7262]

Watching this back a year later, it's really funny drawing parralels and double standards, especially after the recent twitch rivals fiasco. Time and time again we've seen Rust shatter planet size egos and time and time again the smaller creators benefitted immensely, just like Minecraft Mondays did Technoblade and other smaller streamers. Its especially hilarious considering the only reason people like train wrecks got attention was because they were being total assholes.

[@roadblock0210]

What's the twitch rivals fiasco?

[@enricopucci6570]

Yeah man, it really is surreal. Even the Ray situation on the video, he sounded really mad for getting killed on a PvP server, it didnt seem genuine when people went around saying hes the "nicest guy". Thats one of the main reasons i lost interest in any kind of role playing.

[@h5gamer798]

@@roadblock0210 go watch disguised toast video on it it was English speaking streamers vs Spanish speaking streamers on rust it went bad

[@fabrizio4190]

It’s even funnier now cause train don’t even stream on twitch that much he made his own shit website that’s a copy of twitch

[@amediumhorse]

Technoblade never dies o7

[@jayson9601]

ah yes, the usual "I can kill you, but you can't kill me" deal.

[@demons21100]

ye the rule that if he has more viewer than you you cant kill him

[@GatMarksTheSpot]

ahh yes the feign ignorance

[@souakadpadkid6685]

RULES FOR THEE BUT NOT FOR ME!

[@kingleaf2932]

I really wish Aqua, Sam and Poob had played on this server. Three little gremlins terrorizing everyone would be the funniest shit ever.

[@gavinnn_4938]

someone give this man an award, best idea i've heard in the past 6 years.

[@liftfork]

They'd mess with XQC or some other big streamer and get instantly banned for hurting feelings lol

[@owo1744]

@@liftfork Except the entire OTV crew would probably get in trouble for banning them, since Sam doesn't back down from bullshit.

[@--jefree--]

It’s just sad he doesn’t really play too much rust anymore, and doesn’t respect some of these streamers, although that may make it funnier.

[@t0ri178]

they will cry like a lil bitch and banned him lol

[@bluespice8865]

Looks like you and Stimpee are upsetting a bunch of children.

[@eamondokurtan4928]

Imagine a set winter, stimpee, zuckles and swaggersouls team up, it would be hilarious.

[@vengeful_zombie6783]

Stimpees last video is to funny

[@yaboialphapsi-krieger2709]

@@eamondokurtan4928 A group of legendary trolls. That would be amazing to watch!

[@godofredo404]

man-children**

[@ghostconsoul5811]

Actually man this comment is so true I watched stimpee vids and most of the streamers were acting like man baby’s

[@johndoe-bi3bt]

Dude I remember watching this when it first came out. I had hated xQc and Train beforehand. Thought they were douchebags and this only reaffirms it. Year later and it still makes me happy to watch.

[@JohnDoe-yd9wy]

Nice name bro

[@hijutakai4726]

Do you only watch lsf or something because xqc isn't a bad person at all

[@mrjujuice5484]

@@hijutakai4726 ? xQc is one of the most Toxic people in the community. Just because he plays a role for people to donate to him during stream does not mean that is his true character. It's the same as liking someone's character in a movie and thinking that's how they are in real life...They are actors taking your money.

[@hijutakai4726]

@@mrjujuice5484 I can tell you haven't watched his stream because he isn't even toxic half the time, this gives me my answer you only watch lsf

[@mrjujuice5484]

@@hijutakai4726 I've tuned into cow since he was a small streamer. He's always been toxic when he gets beat. I'm sure you think pokimane is some saint too.

[@danmartin5044]

If you go look at train wrecks stream, he wasn’t “ roleplaying “ at all. Actually quite the opposite. He was try hard the whole time then accused ser winter of being toxic. I’m glad you clapped him good!

[@dracu.5433]

he literally JUST started playing the game, the server was private and meant for content creators. When someone with experience ruins it for others, there's no point in going private.

[@danmartin5044]

@@dracu.5433 yeah.. uhm.. hm. They divided the map in half. Top side pvp, bottom side rp. Trainwreck has been playing shooters long enough to know the costs of pvp territories. Absolutely no reason to be butthurt by dying one time. He was running on a road with his weapon out. Why have your weapon out if your not planning on shooting anyone? Dude just mad he got clapped first.

[@xircut588]

@@dracu.5433 No he was definitely experienced enough to not be a little bitch

[@Zasaramel]

@@dracu.5433 Clearly some of the top content creators had in their head a different outlook on how things would go on this server. Despite that, the video clearly shows that Ser Winter simply saw someone with a guy running around nonchalantly and killed him. That is the essence of Rust for most players. He didn't camp Trainwrecks nor did he teabag him afterward. The fact that Trainwrecks was the one who was toxic from the get-go with his " pick me up bitch " and then proceeds to openly flame him in general chat shows that he was the toxic one. His lack of game knowledge, combined with his ego, and clear anger issues didn't even allow him to consider that maybe he didn't see Ser Winter and just got outplayed. He immediately went to an extreme instead of being an adult about the situation. People underestimated how frustrating it could be to die after farming stuff for a while or just getting outplayed in some situations. You can forgive someone for initially lashing out and misunderstanding what happened in a situation. But, him going off like that in general chat and to his viewers in order to slander a smaller streamer just shows how shitty of a person he and others like him are at their core.

[@Th4tGuy]

@@dracu.5433 Nobody ruined his experience. He was the one ruining the experience.

[@SerWinter]

Also, there's like a bajillion ads on the video, but I'm not making a cent, nor do I want to from this. The copyrighted song put them on there.

[@goldenone4235]

Love you winter they didn't deserve you

[@swaggytoast5242]

no worries, we got your back

[@juandoe2994]

Let them deal with the ads

[@leonedevaudier76]

Winter this video was amazing well done

[@skorrie3849]

Ad-block engaged then.

[@seancurtis1199]

I am not going to lie with the amount of misinformation going around I went into this video pretty biased against you, but after watching this I gotta say man got dogged by these petty narcissists

[@NerdRivera]

God, i can't believe how misinformed i was. I actually watched the vod and he's completely right.

[@DarthEatsDonuts]

Same dude

[@hardbrocklife]

Almost all of the top 20 steamers are narcissistic douchebags. Only Tyler1 would ever play a competitive game and want everyone to play for real.

[@thefezer456676]

Its a game? The fact you came in mad shows you're no better than the people who got mad at him.

[@seancurtis1199]

@@thefezer456676 That is both completely incorrect and devoid of any logic

[@plutonian___5190]

Ser winter, I just want to say, even though I watched from XQC perspective the entire time, I have realised after watching this that you did NOTHING wrong, and i enjoyed your video. The threats done to you were COMPLETELY unjustafied, and I apologise and I have subscirbed and will watch other videos you have made.

[@Rhea_is_gay]

It takes alot to admit your wrong, respect to ya kind stranger

[@plutonian___5190]

@@Rhea_is_gay thanks man, just being honest :)

[@least.insane.femboy]

Pluto6678, I just want to say, please send us an unprotected 1st round pick and tank next season so we can have Shane Wright. Merci !

[@plutonian___5190]

@@least.insane.femboy i dont understand what your asking sorry

[@heatherschoonmaker9875]

Man really just: I’m sorry good my actions were wrong and I apologize (btw you I can tell are just a good person man have a great day)

[@philliprasmussen9706]

Would love to see train on a official server were no one cares about him being a streamer and trash talking he would be sitting crying in a corner for half the wipe

[@Xelite]

A lot of Twitch streamers are toxic as shit to the core but put on the nice person attitude to keep viewership

[@mundanemr2601]

@@ThickmoidYeast 100% agree with you

[@RebelFNOS]

Put train on DayZ I wanna watch him cry at getting sniped from hill

[@TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32]

These people are like angry little ankle biters, they talk shit and the moment you capitulate they attack you doing the exact thing they criticise you for.

[@85Bad4ever]

@@RebelFNOS that is why big streamers dont play dayz,only summit have balls to play dayz and be chill

[@hushssh6774]

a pvp server that seemed to discourage pvp was never going to last

[@Anti-FairweatherGolf]

This shit is sad. I lost some mad respect for some other content creators. You're the man for keeping it real Winter. OG

[@thatcooldudeisawesome876]

@ShowTime_Mikey and stimpee

[@TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32]

i find XQC hilarious but holy fuck he becomes super toxic in any PVP competitive setting.

[@speed3953]

@@TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32 think of when he was a pro OW player, he was controversial because of how toxic he was, it doesn't come as a surprise to me that he is like this still, however what does come as a surprise is when he keeps getting invited to events like this just so he can be a absolute twat by being a toxic, malding baby. Funny thing is I agree with you that he is funny, but only when he ruins some random guys day because he takes it wayyy too seriously, and for that it just annoys me to watch

[@StkyDkNMeBlz]

@@speed3953 Overwatch pro, lol. I shouldn't have been surprised.

[@tylerlee1787]

@@speed3953 He’s not funny, he is fun to laugh at for being a man child. Personally I think there’s a distinction there. He isn’t a comedian he’s the butt of the joke.

[@rileyedges7312]

I revisited this and my favorite part is glancing over at the chat to see the legit rust content creators absolutely wrecking these dudes

[@lordsathariel4384]

my logic is if you can't take dying in rust then don't play cus even if they had no roleplay on this server then these big streamers would still be mad

[@ApothecaryJack]

This video is proof of how streamers egos are attached to their “content” and why you can’t have an RP server that allows any amount of PvP. It’s strictly one or the other

[@turcanudan9386]

I don't think that's a good mentality. If people are going to be whiny or assholes, they will always be.

[@ApothecaryJack]

@@turcanudan9386 I think you’re right, I just don’t know why Abe bothers to ban anyone without watching vods first. I know the server is meant to be “private” but when you let hundreds of content creators from around the world join freely it no longer becomes a private server. You need a 3rd party arbitration for bans at that point. The rules are don’t troll and disable other people’s content and banning people does that soooo

[@danielsterling4918]

Yeah I mean if I go on an RP server almost every time I can't even damage other players. Pvp servers are kill on sight 99.99% of the time. *IT'S RUST FORFUCKS SAKE*

[@Zasaramel]

Not just ego for some, but a clear miscommunication amongst some of the larger creators on what this server was supposed to be. Combine that with a general lack of understanding on how to play the game effectively from a mental standpoint and you have a recipe for the extreme butthurt. The fact Trainwrecks auto assumes he was camped and then teabagged proves he was approaching this from an " assholes always do bad shit to me " which auto skewed his perspective. So with his lack of game sense he didn't even comprehend that it was possible he didn't see Ser Winter, on top of how he didn't know how characters move while talking and looting while he was down so he took it like a teabag. You could forgive his misunderstanding of the situation in a vacuum because he didn't know the game that well, but clearly, the guy has ego and anger issues by the way he immediately starts with " pick me up bitch ." then proceeds to flame in open general chat like a child. Any reasonable adult, flustered by frustration or not, wouldn't have doubled down on being a douche like that and for that reason fuck him and anyone that blindly followed in that behavior.

[@AnEnemyAnemone1]

Everyone else managed just fine. The reality is that some of these yoututbers can’t read a room. I wouldn’t expect their fanbases full of preteens to understand that though.

[@MrGodPowered]

that horse theft was legit the best thing I've seen all week.

[@shotgun_daddy-1089]

Hahah for real

[@derekparker1715]

H O R S E T H E F T A U T O

[@MrGodPowered]

@@derekparker1715 bruh 😂

[@mittens5789]

red dead redemtion 3 leaked gameplay

[@wsky7-421]

@@derekparker1715 u mean grand theft horse

[@pancake4061]

My reaction to getting ambushed isn't "what a dirty camper", it's "holy shit how did I not see that?" and then I start being more vigilant around similar terrain.

[@cryofist]

alot of gamers nowadays lack the ability to admit they fucked up somehow which is why they dont get better tbh. in any game let alone a server survival game you need to accept that it isnt a "do things at your leisure" experience. i had to learn that when i was little playing those old zombie survival games on servers lol. 1 trust no one 2hide your shit and 3 head on a swivel always lol.

[@devonmsp9573]

​@@cryofist thats really sad especially when it comes to a game like rust, rust pvp is founded on your ability to both adapt and use every bit of terrain / anything to squeeze the advantage out of it. not being able to even recognize that is honestly dreadful

[@heck8607]

Exactly man, you gotta learn from mistakes. When I get shot from a spot I didn't notice, I start watching those kinds of angles and positions. Making a mistake means you have room to improve. Blaming others for your own mistakes is childish.

[@horsepuncher421]

So, basically: Kind of big streamers just onto rust for the first time to follow the “streamer server” trend to farm content and attention; then make the mistake of letting people who have been playing for a long time and are good at pvp; they then are epicly swagged on by said pvpers (Specifically Ser Winter, Stimpee, and Zuckles); streamers become angry at the fact that smaller youtubers/streamers are owning them, shattering their ever so fragile egos, which culminates in a mass tantrum in Winter and Zuckles being banned and subsequently dragged through the mud. Final Note: These are my words, not a summarization of the video. Just a summary of the situation from my point of view which comes from watching multiple streams and getting multiple points of view.

[@arlenq3763]

yep

[@chromegnats]

100% nailed... how embarrassing.

[@Loopy584]

I wish to see them play on a normal server so they can get shredded and see how many mistakes they did they would quit the game in minutes

[@NiteCreature666]

PVP sucks and should be banned on all gaming platforms, period. Winter deserved to get banned, as well as his friends, he was using cheats.

[@WinterCharmVT]

Train is basically a child and was such a sore loser about it. Just from the clip with full context, and how he reacted like a child in chat with the tbagging...

[@mattewsmith6747]

Yo train straight lies in chat lmao, says he was planting a berry next to the bush Winter was in, but has mp5 out while running down middle of road? Hmmm

[@braxtra1664]

typical big streamer thinking he can just walk all over anyone who isn’t a millionaire. smh such bullshit

[@Jessica-ys9ot]

Ngl I watch a lot of the streamers on the OTV server and I had heard of this whole thing in passing. Im glad I didn’t blindly listen to what everyone was saying. You were actually quite nice and kind. It was a PVP server and those who jumped in without knowing were just dumb. I personally feel like you did not do anything wrong, sorry you were penalized for other peoples crap. Best of luck!

[@MinnWasTaken]

I don't know how this has 209 likes and no comments lol, but yeah no he was clearly being nice to the people on there, I don't know why they feel entitled to special treatment from other players on a PVP SERVER!

[@oreorf4569]

especially the fact hes being called toxic for tbagging when any rust player knnows thats just how to safely loot crouch, hoverloot, crtouch and juggle around the body while the loot gets taken

[@ding0dkikl_]

again true! do they not know what "pvp" even means!!!!

[@S.o.13]

Just looked back on this gem. I love the double standards those streamers showed when it came down to play the game as we all play it. Just lovely.

[@lemonscourge27]

Ive never played rust and they are whinging at nothing. Not posting extra rules in rules is their fault and they are in the pvp server. Also it seems xqc and trainwreck shouldnt play games but should be stuck in a room with eachother screaming constantly

[@Jade-PG]

the way trainwreck chats back to you absolutely shows how pathetic majority of big streamers are! well done mate sticking to your guns, your better off outa it!

[@vort2127]

This is how most of them gain popularity, it's fun to watch people get mad and heated over nothing. That's clearly the only reason he's popular lmao

[@unicodeq]

@@vort2127 That's the whole Reason xQc has fans he just acts like hes super angry and his fans think its funny

[@Rareknightking]

@@unicodeq I can't tolerate that content, so I guess I am one of the few who don't lol.

[@unicodeq]

@@Rareknightking huh

[@Rareknightking]

@@unicodeq The angry getting upset content. It just annoys me. Then again, that's probably why I stay on KZbin and don't watch much on Twitch. Also not sure if you understood me earlier so I figured I reiterate what I meant.

[@DarkSide-yn3sp]

the people who were like "I'm raiding him" "I'm killing him" and actually full tryhard tries and kills you, and still gets tapped LMAO

[@zacharykidd176]

@@baxsm He should be penalized for being better at the game. Rust just may not be the game for them. I know that it must sting to never be able to win against him, but sometimes people are just better at the thing you're trying. I think it's just the case of being a sore loser. Also, they could've went south and they'd be fine.

[@zacharykidd176]

@@baxsm He never left the north, which was the decided pvp spot.

[@zacharykidd176]

@@baxsm He played exactly how he was told to by the rules that were given.

[@zacharykidd176]

@@baxsm If you've ever watched him play for a while, he's terrifyingly good at this game.

[@zacharykidd176]

@@baxsm I didn't say they were, do you have reading comprehension problems?

[@ianhess6475]

Really changes your perspective after only seeing the big streamers POV

[@acidous1276]

Not really

[@ianhess6475]

Acidous are you serious or are you just an Xqc frog

[@FunzR32]

@@ianhess6475 i really don't see the appeal in XQC, he's not funny or enteraining at all, ever..

[@nishionishiki3338]

Thats how life works bruhv, you'r not going to like someone just because anybody does.

[@FunzR32]

@@nishionishiki3338 true

[@TopHatPenguin]

I love watching content creators clutch their pearls when they can’t have their usually easy mode gameplay especially in a game like rust

[@icantthinkofagoodnameso69f89]

yeah

[@cutthrat7740]

you know someone has never played rust when you move around while looting in case someone grubs and they think you are tbagging

[@festungkurland9804]

exactly, they better stick to roleplay

[@cereal2211]

@@festungkurland9804 most people on that pvp server aren't really expecting to get shit on by rust pros. They want a fun experience where they can PVP with other streamers that haven't really played rust much aswell.

[@cereal2211]

@Shadow man yeah but still, these streamers aren’t used to the natural rust environment.

[@justinszerlag4981]

@@cereal2211 how is that winters fault tho, I wonder if he stood still while looting if it would’ve been different...

[@cereal2211]

@@justinszerlag4981 i never said it was

[@maryannmoser9662]

I made it through the whole video and all I can say is it seems like the others are using you as a scapegoat for their shortcomings

[@terryfuldsgaming7995]

yeah, thats exactly what I got from their live streams and charlie's vid also. Its like how people all the time cant hack it at rust so they throw a tantrum in chat. But these people have their own chat that aggress with them...

[@dylanb0404]

If this was any normal person, bloo or someone would’ve made a movie about wiping these guys from the server lmaoo

[@keeganmcgraw1394]

It's funny how they wait to completely lose their shit until they. see winters name and start talking trash

[@airplanemaniacgaming7877]

@@keeganmcgraw1394 as the original comment said, they used Winter as a scapegoat for their inability to hack it in rust. they wanna get pissed off? *then they should try to get into the RP server instead of whining about PVP in a PVP SERVER.*

[@davionlewis9730]

@@dylanb0404 facts no printer 😭😭 I love him and winters vids

[@JustSumBasil]

its funny, looking back at this, all the people who made the server "bad" according to the mob are the people who actually made the otv stuff entertaining at all

[@chickencheese6682]

True

[@ZeroTheorie]

Very true

[@alvanegra253]

Tru

[@dudebro2638]

Train should just go back to the slots.

[@lxdixd]

tbh looking back on it now every server needs a heel or else it gets boring

[@GhettoWhiteGuy]

this whole ordeal proved how catered streamers are. This is rust. You were being nice by standards. I respect what you did 100% When I heard that someone "griefed" the server. I said to myself "Good that's real rust"

[@1stdragon123]

right? i normally play on rust rp servers and this is still baby mode compared to that.

[@FPSZeno]

Great response, Trainwreck really cried so much about this to the point of making fun of your personal life. That is low asf

[@MisterNear]

Mr gambling got his ego crushed

[@taxevader7777]

Almost a year late but yeah it’s honestly sad. It’s one thing to be toxic and talk shit to people in game when you kill them or they kill you, but sending your fans to harass someone or attacking them personally because they killed you in a video game where you’re meant to kill other players is just sad. Some people just take games way too seriously.

[@mclovin2408]

His name describes him pretty well

[@cromperer]

The best part of this vid is seeing all the OG rust content creators kinda stick up for each other and vent. It's nice to see that other people were confused and unsure what to do. Meanwhile some of the big babies were just following the rules when it suited them or even made up their own

[@anonymoususer7716]

Lmao then don’t play on the server that was created by Abe who also made the rules. Rust players who say this are so dumb and the racists players are the worst. The server was created for fun and content not sweating, if you play like that play the pub servers which is what it’s intended for. I don’t care about this shit I had to call out shit logic and yes I see both sides of the argument but sweating in private servers meant for content and fun is dumb and should obviously be banned. Your

[@cromperer]

@@anonymoususer7716 THE PRIVATE SERVER IN QUESTION WAS MADE FOR PVP FOR PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO SWEAT AND NOT ONLY RP TO ENJOY THE ACTION PART OF THE GAME. There was more than 1 server and the full rp servers were full so they went to the pvp ones,then a bunch of baby rpers started flooding in to the server and getting killed in areas that were for pvp. Maybe you should read the rules abe set up and I have no clue why you have to bring up racist players? Every game fanbase has a portion of asshats. A lot of people were sweating and tryharding and going on rampages in the pvp areas because that was the point of it and you shouldn't be banned wtf. It's not like this was going on in an RP only server

[@elihubal6640]

i would agree if it didnt say hardcore pvp server in the rules with a few exceptions and none of the good rust players were taking that seriously anyway

[@anonymoususer7716]

@@cromperer I’m not reading that I don’t care and no not at first you tool 😂 Stay mad 😘

[@cromperer]

@@anonymoususer7716 if you didn't care then you wouldn't have said anything. If you're going to go around spouting lies because you're too lazy to learn about something just don't say anything you inbred cheese wheel

[@tirediron5792]

Actually hilarious seeing all the people who were made to out be villains, chilling together

[@Kyle17206]

People don't realize how sweaty they all could have been... they were just having fun

[@cringeaholic4082]

Yeah, if these guys banded together they'd all have no content.

[@PvmElegance]

Coolest thing ever dude hahaha the dark horses of rust

[@IamSpacedad]

@@Kyle17206 yeah lol longtime Rust fans know that they weren't even remotely tryharding - the people they were up against were just new, bad, and had egos

[@scoopasoop6052]

Anyone ever ask who tf is making comments like these?

[@pixelpastiche]

Just started watching this old OTV Rust debacle and I really hope they do it again, but require that everyone streams rust on public servers either on stream or off for at least three\four days in order to be admitted. Legit once people know how it feels to be a normie in the sea of vindictive, brutal, opportunistic players on rust, they are gonna have a much better time when playing together.

[@SkorpioVenom]

Or just don't invite the people with massive egos like train

[@pixelpastiche]

@@SkorpioVenom Once streamers like him put in the time and realize how Rust actually plays where their egos just make them a clip harvest for a server, I think they wouldn't even accept an invite.

[@a_yummy_pumpkin1471]

The reason trainwrecks said you t bagged him was because of the rust instinct to move around while looting

[@debbit]

ya haha

[@zero-gu3lt]

Yeah, the instinct to move and spam crouch as to not get headshot

[@mrbrightside559]

A welyn fan?

[@davidbanan.]

@@mrbrightside559 what? Thats like a no brainer thing, if you want to get headshot stand still

[@yeng1855]

@@davidbanan. Rust 101: How to get killed.

[@alexandernoethiger5338]

Banned for nothing. “It’s for content and rp and pvp mix” but my boy Winters is rping more than half the population

[@harpot678]

I mean, he even said the ban was sort of justified. Its just that some other streamers were being toxic to him.

[@TheBarleyBug]

Lmao ok, "you couldve been big if you just befriended us", thats just kinda petty and sad ngl, hopefully they realize how messed that sounds.

[@themagickan6843]

Where in the vid is this?

[@rileysullivan9474]

@@themagickan6843 I believe the part he’s referring to is at 5:10

[@lillerosin2915]

Someone seriously said that?! and actually meant it?! , if so, that is pathetic!

[@TheBarleyBug]

@@lillerosin2915 lol yeah, that was Trainwreck I think

[@overastart8412]

Yep and that's why children should not be spoiled in this case adults should be not spoiled

[@Bouipi]

having a "RP/PVE" zone and a "PVP" zone just gives mix messages for everyone, the Admins/Devs need to install mods that actually zone those areas. The admin needs to make this happen As to the kills you've done , I saw nothing wrong. Raging over a horse getting stollen is petty. Players not knowing "north" and "south" is their problem. If you dont want to get killed, don't get past the halfway point. XQC needs to grow up and chill, yes even for me i get mad, we all learn and adapt

[@aoki6332]

... its already a thing its just that the admin of these server where useless and where in no way knowing what they where doing just be looking how they changed the rule only on the discord where half the people where not there and in a random chat

[@SuckHole838]

@@aoki6332yeah rust is pretty easily modded with that kinda stuff they were just being lazy fucks

[@starkys]

this is pretty embarrassing for trainwreck lmao

[@AznJungleFever]

He got wreckt'

[@HOD]

We got your back man 💪 these egos piss me off. I can't believe some of the bad takes on this whole situation. Bet they don't watch this haha

[@Therabidrabbit89]

100%

[@emil7163]

Big fan man, didnt know you watched one of the best rust youtubers

[@Therabidrabbit89]

@@emil7163 Aussies stick together bruh !!!!

[@speedymods1186]

bro i watch your ark vids i love you bro much love

[@da_pawz]

yeah after they ban ser winter and zuckles, I don't really care about the drops too lol one of my friend asked me, do you get the XQC AK-47 skin already? I replied, "F him and his group, I don't want to watch their stream ever again lol..."

[@etherdeef4303]

you and stimpee are heroes for what you have done, funny as hell to see people fall for stuff which would normally get you blasted in the face

[@esco8778]

"Oh, you're really one of those Rust players"

[@EATMEGUD]

@@esco8778 Lmao. ¨Dont ever trust stimpee, he always betrays them¨

[@khorne8886]

@@EATMEGUD “who tf is stimpee, sound like a-hole”

[@ratanaofficial6082]

Stimpee wasn't happy about it so he ruined it

[@goblin8623]

@@ratanaofficial6082 he had fun and made the server actually kinda entertaining

[@ATrueSonOfSparda]

"To live a peaceful life is to not argue with morons" Ser Winter is based.

[@HamsterPants522]

That's a sound motto, to be honest.

[@goodmorningeshay7116]

I came into this vid to see what the drama was about. After the first 10 minutes I completely forgot about the drama and just enjoyed the video.

[@overastart8412]

Watched the hole thing my guy it was a good vid.

[@ottopi4949]

Same

[@nnand6997]

Same, idk what the drama even is. Just saw xqc and train get toxic at the beginning and then a lot of rp

[@samhoekstra2464]

@@overastart8412 yeah I got entirely sucked in like the first 45 minutes literaly I was like holy duck I’ve never sat here and watched that long of a video but then I just watched the full almost two hours fuck... I need a life 😂

[@overastart8412]

@@samhoekstra2464 i watched all. If you like long rust vids wach Bernie

[@Rybosome141]

if u go to trainwrecks chat ull see his channel rules says "no bullying", man is the biggest hypocrite, i lost respect for so many "popular" streamers after seeing their true colors in rust

[@canadianbigmac3501]

Rules for thee but not for me

[@twocheezitz9182]

He was literally roasting sir winter for not making a lot of money streaming? Imagine being such a child that you roast someones earnings because they killed you once in a PvP videogame

[@megazeus2448]

xQc is the absolute worst out of the bunch, he acts like a literal child because he is garbage at an actually difficult game since he is used to only playing easy party games such as COD.

[@OblivionPrime]

Those rules are on every channel they do it to seem good to the staff etc reality is they don't care at all

[@zoinksscoob6523]

@@megazeus2448 lmao cod, he barely plays that shit

[@DanielsCollection]

"Trainwreck is a literal trainwreck rn" lmao

[@bobahobu4325]

I ded

[@nessquake]

69th like

[@theideaofevil]

It's especially funny watching this in 2022, when train's whole career is now solely pimping crypto gambling to kids

[@NinjapowerMS]

What sucks about this whole situation is Charlie ranted about this without knowing both sides. Disappointed really.

[@giggityiggityooo4127]

One of the few Penguinz0 videso I disliked. Seriously bad take on his part.

[@krabman10]

Yeah he even said he didn't know the situation and painted winter as a massive loser, really didn't like to see that.

[@TheDonUrbas]

@@krabman10 dont think he mentioned winter

[@crudercrane3261]

Yeah I was really disappointed in him and im a big fan

[@krabman10]

@@TheDonUrbas he didn't mention him by name but it was pretty obvious he was talking about him

[@DerThomie]

>Dies in a PvP game >"Hey lets get my army of premature children to harass him over literal pixels" This has to be the dumbest drama Ive seen in a long time, seriously. Keep doing what you're doing Ser Winter. Been watching you for ages, your content is at least entertaining. Don't try to argue with them, can't argue with idiots.

[@isaiahjoseph7352]

A FEW MONTHS LATE BUT Not even drama over someone trying to be morally or politicly correct someone died in a server then drama started lol worse then when nice stat had drama with delirous over ARK

[@No-ms3hj]

"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience" -Mark Twain

[@Anassirjahat]

I'm not surprised. Rust brings true color out of everyone, Winter just happened to has mastered the emotion

[@DaviPedrosa]

imagine if he not with 19739172 hours

[@tehmodestmouse6275]

Hardly rust, though. All of the rules, etc.

[@gabeske1711]

After all the hardship thats come with the game you get used to mastering anger n crap, or sometimes ur just born with the patience and some arent

[@hunterprice5055]

Imagine if Ser Winter was actually smart and didn’t try that hard, and played like coconutB.

[@nathjizo9298]

Ser Winter : Welcome to my playground! Random streamers : OK!

[@thegamingrhino5864]

24:33 “Have a reason to kill people other than ‘i want their loot” Can these people hear themselves? Do they know how this game works?

[@Karvan420]

I fucking loved Swaggersouls on OTV, shame people shat on him for no reason. He stuck to his character and rp for pretty much 99% of the time and every interaction was pure gold

[@GenerationalDisappointment]

I've thought about this for a while but can't come up with an answer. Since Swagger is always playing a character, is it still considered role playing if he's that character in the server or does he need to go another level deeper? He didn't really take advantage of any loopholes but I can see room for someone taking advantage of it.

[@jdenmrtnz413]

You, Zuckles, Swagger, and Welyn are the best Things that happened to the OTV Server 💀💀

[@Connor-dl4hq]

Go watch Stimpee and spoonkid, those guys both ruled the server

[@jerrbear26]

What about Stimpee?

[@firemaana6440]

@@AEG3587 hahahaha

[@thefezer456676]

Welyn was annoying as fuck on that server.

[@jangofett3147]

The fact no one mentioned Mr wobbles is criminal

[@LordBepis315]

This is where the term “mad cuz bad” really shines lmao

[@02nightowl]

well when you put a person who has hundreds of hours in rust vs someone who barely has double digit time of course who try hards going to win

[@LegiamasC-OnTwitta]

@VforCyberpunk I don’t like xqc much, but to defend him, he really does play FPS games, he’s just not used to rust in general. Like he practices his ak spray n stuff, he is trying to improve

[@mrbigmac4297]

Yes ser winter is good because he bush camps and kill rp’ers man how skilled

[@LordBepis315]

@@mrbigmac4297 he didnt bush camp you can see the clip lmao, id do that too if I was him lmao. im not just gonna run down the road like an idiot. Like train just has a slow ass reaction time thats his fault that he lost the fight.

[@mrbigmac4297]

@VforCyberpunk pokimane killed him first he went back to get his loot and he killed poki and was hunted down by like 6 simps also yes it’s a pvp sever but it’s also a private serve with rules also it’s xqc not qxc

[@austerbutt3626]

You and stimpee made otv enjoyable

[@sourtaconinja1655]

facts

[@KTM_Trooper]

Theyre the main character youre just the side character in their anime bro... streamer mentality at its finest

[@Gray-sh2jg]

this is where i become the villain >:)

[@coupdegrace2767]

I mean, there are dozens of ways to be smart about it. What’s the point of playing on isolated streamer server, if you are pretty much looking for generic rust experience? Now of course Winter was quite unlucky to face dipshits such as Train or XQC (I’m referring to the toxic aspects of their twitch personas), but it doesn’t change the fact, that Winter was in the wrong in many other situations.

[@Paulnopanic]

CóupDeGrace did you watch the whole video?? There’s only a handful of times he played “generically” and he hurt the inflated egos of the millionaire twitch streamers and then stopped cause his chat went instantly toxic. Then when everyone else was KOSing and shitting on winter (which happened alot) it was okay. Don’t understand your mentality along with all of OTV and their fans but alrighty

[@Paulnopanic]

CóupDeGrace I understand a 6k hour vet shouldn’t be sweating but he really wasn’t sweating lmao. If you and others think he was sweating in those clips I feel bad for you if you play real rust servers

[@coupdegrace2767]

@@Paulnopanic no, he wasn't sweating, but he clearly shouldn't have been looking for "casual rust experience" on such a server, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to notice, that it wasn't that type of a server after every single person whined in all chat, after getting fragged by him. Honestly, very small number of people actually gives a single fk about understanding of rust or its "unique experience", you should rather focus on another skill - it's called reading the god damn mood.

[@WorriedBubble]

it's really interesting how the big streamers can create a narrative & it immediately becomes adopted by commenters & smaller streamers. Like a religious leader who can provide followers/attention to preachers that spread their word

[@orundestiunpre2944]

Oh hello there

[@sybes_420liljoe7]

Welcome to earth!!

[@unchained4557]

How do you have 2k subs and no vids

[@NinjapowerMS]

You can pretty much make a study on that Server. Rust brings out the real POS on everyone.

[@AllGlitchdOut]

@@unchained4557 Probably wiped vids so he can make new content? Or like me made uploads of copy-written shit that you had to pull when the shit hit the fan .

[@Pain-cw3lt]

LOL. Timmy at 13:35 "Door camping is not allowed". Meanwhile, him and Myth were door camping Zuckles. Also the amount of ass kissing that's happening in that chat is cringe lol.

[@almazavala5086]

I noticed team rocket was doing a lot of ass kissing to XQC,he would complain about something while on a tangent and his followers would repeat it to him a couple seconds later

[@IanBPPK]

Wait, is this the reason for Camomo using that joke incessantly?

[@fatassthebig]

Id describe it as "dick riding"

[@klyxx8990]

I remember the day the server launched, me and a few Rust vets who do not even know who the fuck half these people are, strapped in for what was going to inevitably be an extremely entertaining experience. Anyone who has played Rust all sweaty style on either officials or communities whatever saw the following: - The nightmarish no fun of getting greifed and killed in your birthday suit because you existed is literally par for the game - Teeny tiny character flaws that cause disruption in teamplay or co-operation are exacerbated and swollen during the stress rollercoaster of fighting/farming/basebitchin' - "Who took all the syringes off my sleeping body what the fuck" - 30 people seething angry calling each other bitches and rats and Sir Wanker is again, absolutely just par for the course - Also "lol thx for the shit nerd" into a "fk this game I dont even wanna play" in under 45 seconds, absolutely comes with the standard package It was a blast to watch the "Social Experiment" finally be used as something akin to a "Social Experiment". Btw we all failed, barely human. P.s. I love Apex and Lulu is favorite, watching her smile vaporize as the horse rider pulls up and waterpipes her is literally the core, the KERNAL of Rust. Without that we are lumpier minecraft. P.s.s Holy fuck hearing Knut talk about the horse has me rolling, I love that dudes accent P.s.s.s "Yoyoyo" immediately assaults you with a mace, dies. "Make an effort to use voice chat" LOL I can't even. You were supposed to beg and plead and make them feel good in that 0.75 seconds before it connected with your brain.

[@VRTrapman]

Out of this whole thing, I just like the bromoments you and Zuckles have 😆🤣

[@DubbedManiac]

All the OG rust people he has moments with. Its the noobs who dont understand rust lmfao

[@nuzhmizafidi2037]

Never expected to see you here.

[@EvR19]

I miss u alot trapman ❤️

[@Klyk]

bc they both ogs

[@mynamejeef7166]

Sign my astolfo plushie

[@dl0l.l0lb]

I hope if any of these streamers do try to play on a legit server they get a warm welcome from the rust community

[@corey1846]

Nothing makes a welcome warmer than red hot lead

[@netflixceo4925]

Oh yeah yeah

[@johnmarkson1990]

they have played on public servers and were fine tbh. if anyone tried to stream snipe them trainwrecks would just contact the admin and get them banned. public servers are only toxic for regular joes.

[@andresavelar8831]

LMAOO FAX get eoka’ed or water pipe then get called the n word

[@GunzGot5]

Or they can all leave . Good job rust players. You guys had an opportunity to allow your game to grow and ruined it less than a week lmao

[@reezonoce]

Dude was making friends, having a laugh, helping everyone and being the genuine guy he is, if these so called "content" creators were half the person he is, this community would be a lot more fun to play in... almost 600k people got your back mate! If any of the bad mouthers watch this video, fucking shame on you, view hungry grubs!

[@0nlyRemaining]

43:30 When Winter needed it the most, he ran into the kindest person on the server, Dyrus.

[@cripplinganimedepression9902]

He did kill him later lol

[@10milfud]

Funny how you play one of the most toxic games ever and run into a streamer with anger problems and a superiority complex 💀 who would’ve guessed

[@shorelinemafiaiglives9750]

Most toxic game community, hands down, goes to league of legends 😂

[@theamazingleagueofgentleme9150]

@@shorelinemafiaiglives9750 you haven't played enough rust If you think that

[@shorelinemafiaiglives9750]

@@theamazingleagueofgentleme9150 3000 hours on league and 200 on rust 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@theamazingleagueofgentleme9150]

@@shorelinemafiaiglives9750 yeah I've got 3,000 hours on rust and trust me you just need a little bit more time into the game and you'll hear the n word more than you could ever imagine

[@Furiouspenguin27]

I actually really appreciate you because you exposed what a bunch of children some of these people are

[@LUGIGGGGGG]

Bro they are actually so toxic, they think they are allowed to behave like this because they are big streamers. Talk about big egos

[@Prvml]

They literally wouldn't last a second in an old bo2 lobby

[@glitchyame6366]

@@Prvml why is this facts

[@jonathannilsson8482]

@@LUGIGGGGGG I have no idea how people are even watching them. I have 0 interest in watching someone that is a toxic asshole and don't see why anyone would want to support someone that is acting like that. Really don't care how big they are.

[@mclovin2408]

@@jonathannilsson8482 people who watch that are 12-14 at most

[@TopShelfBoxWine]

Trainwreck is so toxic and makes me so uncomfortable. How does he have any viewers with an attitude like that?

[@ShortsKulture]

How does trump get any followers? Its cause people are toxic inside and just want to see the world burn.

[@ThaVipaa]

bc people like like-minded people

[@meatwad6232]

Because they don't wanna miss the moment he get's Perma banned from twitch or Arrested Live

[@AllGlitchdOut]

@@ShortsKulture To be fair. That is rust. It's just shitty to only have it go one way cause you know someone .

[@ericpederson3105]

Toxic people love toxic people? I guess. They make me feel uneasy.

[@serenaislinn4912]

To me you're a legendary Rust content creator. You blend a beautiful mix of pvp, and causual rust play (rp), into your gaming style. From asking people to give you quests as if this were a mmorpg, to playing with new rust players you've just met. I do think it's the name recognition bs. That trainwreck immediately brought up you're from youtube shows this problem so strongly. It's as if many streamers wrongly think that their fame should give them special treatment in the gaming world. Which is super extra mega cringe in games like rust. And anyone who plays rust and doesn't know who you are, likely wouldn't even recognize Vertiigo either, and his avatar is at freaking launch site. It's the youtubers like you who brought rust to the modern gaming era, who gave it recognition and light.

[@patronofsaints2062]

they probably wouldn't be playing rust without content creators like Winter lol

[@Rytinis]

*creates a server to pvp* ser winter: *pvp's* *bans ser winter for pvping*

[@DudeGuy999]

He committed the crime of not having enough viewers

[@Rytinis]

He commited a crime of being too good

[@juandoe2994]

@@DudeGuy999 he committed the crime of not catering to children like some streamers *cough*xqc*cough*

[@buugs8286]

Abe literally said KOS is bannable, so he deserves the ban, but you are probably rust players and you will say shit like "this is how rust is meant to be played"

[@DudeGuy999]

@@buugs8286 He didn't have access to the discord. He assumed the RP server was for RP and the PVP server was for PVP.

[@yako5184]

Telling Winter to stay out of trouble is the equivalent to telling xqc to not be toxic or train to not be salty

[@legoman81020]

@@ThickmoidYeast and that's the reason I search him not subscribe to him

[@cariboucreates7988]

Or kind of like telling him to pay his taxes.

[@alienation5118]

You stealing that mans horse was the funniest shit

[@SerWinter]

We became friends on Twitter and had a laugh about it

[@alienation5118]

@@SerWinter I'm glad it ended well I would have been angry at first but laughed about it later on too

[@skiibo5289]

I laughed so hard. That is rust in a nut shell. Oh man I finally met someone nice and they run off with your horse... or worse inside you.

[@lordeastwood]

@@SerWinter That was amazing and his expression was the icing on the cake. Glad you guys are both chill about it too.

[@txrhv9743]

@@SerWinter feel sorry for Charlie’s video on you he’s one of the only reliable you tubers who talks about stuff but didn’t get the actual info this time

[@frl_razorsharp5918]

I already know what happened on the otv server. Winter shat on a bunch of egotistical “big creators”. Who then got super mad they got done in and complained like the little biznatches they are.

[@fabrizio4190]

Exactly what happened

[@Puppeteye01]

I enjoyed seeing Ser Wenter interact with the GTA RPers like Timmac, Garret and the Art Museum guys. I think it's massively unfortunate that you're no longer on the server Mr. Winter but you do great content regardless.

[@AggrandiZe-gj4wm]

wow hated from the whole sever honestly impressive.

[@bigbloo9322]

Happens very often

[@mclovin2408]

@@bigbloo9322 yeah which is why I despise all of them now except like spoonkid, stimpee, ser winter, enardo, memeio, and vertiigo is ok. The rest are just immature idiots with inflated egos due to their large following of blind children who only believe what they’re precious streamer says despite the existence of clear evidence they’re wrong.

[@joshuanadeau9688]

When kids cry in rust like train did, they usually get raided and dunked on shortly there after.

[@alextomes1957]

Ye, that's the problem. They haven't experienced the true rust. This is fooking lame.

[@jackaljam]

It's a private server it's not supposed to be like "true rust"

[@joshuanadeau9688]

Still in the north in a pvp zone so....

[@shhlimmy]

@@joshuanadeau9688 Fr some people don’t get the point, the guy even said the north can be on sight

[@JayT8823]

@@alextomes1957 experience the true rust is boring af tho I don’t care to watch someone dying over and over again on spawn. The way the streamers play is way better and great content

[@NightOfTheLiving8bit]

As someone who has played Rust since legacy when it had zombies, the player base this game has fostered has to be the most sensitive, unstable and depressive group of people I’ve ever encountered. And it’s exactly why I don’t play Rust seriously, or rarely let things bother me. I log in and expect to play for a few hours and lose everything each time. It makes things far easier to enjoy when you start looking at it like this, and removes the incredibly addictive / destructive infinite loop the game has…the same loop that sparks impotent man-boy entitlement rage.

[@gzorx]

as someone who also played rust legacy, it may be because neither of us are children that we find the community sensitive

[@pookiebears]

For the North! 💙 Don’t worry, Winter, we know you’re a role player at heart and you were doing everything right on that server! The OG fans before the drama all support you!!

[@juandoe2994]

Oh man, its pookie. Youre def his biggest fan. Youre always first in winters streams 💙

[@AlbertWillHelmWestings2618]

amazing name!!! i had man of you in my base a while ago but got raided

[@nathantomkins3975]

That right pookie we know he’s right and we will always have his back hope your both doin well

[@Kao_Kraken420]

yo i just got here from an old welyn video and I'm liking the content tbh

[@D.Jay.]

God if you luv him so much why don't you marry. Freaking fem-simps. (Its a joke you actual simps)

[@bobbyjohnson6642]

“Res me” “no” dead lmao

[@9BallBory]

Didn’t just say res me, he said res me bitch which is the main reason he killed him, being disrespectful and then cried about it. Normal train.

[@Barkugou420]

@@9BallBory like right? Insult the person who could rez you that’ll totally make them wanna do it

[@greydragon8973]

Imagine being held at gunpoint and thinking "they'll probably let me go if I intimidate them"

[@MasterBaiter69420-g]

lmao your youtuber crying cuz train not nice when hes shooting him on sight on rp server OMEGALUL wonder why hes ''not nice"" poor sir wanker must of been hard ...

[@greydragon8973]

@@MasterBaiter69420-g honestly he's just shittier corpse, in every facet

[@rewtdawg9852]

Trainwreck is for sure a trainwreck. Being blind in the PVP zone is his own fault

[@douglaskramer1853]

And expecting Ser Winter to ress him after calling him a bitch HAHAHAHAHAH Fuck trainwreck

[@plx1212]

actully just checked his stream, his mind went mental and he started screaming worse than hulk when he won a bit of scrap in bandit camp. Such a toxic wreck and new to rust - Totally opposit of what Sir Winter is & what we love him for :)

[@AllGlitchdOut]

@@plx1212 It's what little kids like apparently . They love seeing people freak out. I 100% guarantee if they added age verification these streamers would vanish from no views.

[@tweaked6203]

it not his fault that he new to the game and it a private server that care about other experience instead of kos.

[@rewtdawg9852]

@@tweaked6203 He built his base in the PVP zone, and was walking around like a bot, what did he expect? He was even rude asking for the rez. Had he been nice, he might have been able to keep his stuff.

[@DoItDreckly90]

I'm actually crying at zuckles and swagger. They're legit legends. Great vid man. Also Ray is such a dude

[@jonathannilsson8482]

36:34 "Swales was electrecuted by Ser Winter's Code Lock."

[@GamingStepByStep]

oh man, if everyone said "HALT, I'm going to kill you! Savage Fiend" before opening fire in this game, I might actually stand a chance lol

[@randomname322]

What if they just said “ get ready for a duel “

[@hahndogg5540]

@@randomname322 then pull out your beyblade and prepare for the fight for your life

[@tehmodestmouse6275]

@@hahndogg5540 hahahahahaha

[@buschacha]

*STOP* *YOUVE VIOLATED THE LAW*

[@xrapidx9755]

trainwreck was so rude, yet people were still defending him ffs.

[@TimeFadesMemoryLasts]

Because most people are not interested in truth. It's a thing all over the world in all kinds of situations, me included. Sad but true.

[@RougeyKenobi]

Defending or rationalizing..? I mean it’s clear winter killed someone minding their own business, does that mean what train did was ok? No does that mean what winter did was ok? No. 2 people can be wrong ( or right ) at once

[@zachplopper6159]

RougeyKenobi pvp server in a pvp zone with a fight going on, sir winter was completely within his rights, train wreck just can’t take a loss and toxic as hell, in either case he was the one shooting in the seconds before the clip, or running to the shots with his gun drawn. Thinking anything otherwise is pretty idiotic tbh

[@RougeyKenobi]

@@zachplopper6159 ohhhh ok could you give me a refresher if on the server rules since you know so much?

[@RougeyKenobi]

@@zachplopper6159 btw it’s literally not a pvp server, abe doesn’t even call it a pvp server

[@hedgeyr]

2 years on i just had a little rewatch of this, sums up my feelings on quite a few big time streamers, its not about the game or the entertainment to them, its about stroking their own egos, and putting down anyone who shows them up. love pretty much everything you do Winter, still one of my favourite rust youtubers by far, never change

[@HamsterPants522]

Yup, it's just highschool drama all over again.

[@mystrose333]

I'm so glad you put this video out because it just squashed every single rumor I've heard (and didn't believe of course). I'm OG Rust with thousands of hours of game play and have followed you forever. You showed tons of respect and class and it's very sad that xQc and other people involved are such poor sports. Not one time (that I saw) did you throw a tantrum after being killed. In fact, you laughed and commented how good the other player was a couple times. xQc raged pretty much every time he was killed and acted like an entitled little child. Good on you Winter :)

[@PhonePhone-sf8te]

I watched xqc play the server up until he quit, every day for most of the stream. I have only been so disgusted by one single other streamer that was basically banned from every streaming site. When xqc was pounded by suspect it was like an incredible fresh breeze blowing over the server and the stream. I must have missed most of the times Ser Wanker killed him. Props to ser and suspect for not sucking some toes, honorable mention to sequisha for killing greek and xqc when they raged over to his base with an inven full of rockets. Sequisha felt bad picking on the idiots and let their team mates take their rockets back but he really shouldn't have been so nice.

[@Jason-xf8ib]

To be fair xQc rages because thats his content, that's why people watch him. To see him rage kinda like Tyler1 But at the same time banning ser was really stupid. And their was no context in most if this drama for a small streamer. Which is why he got banned soo fast

[@daviddoyodance3085]

Yea Ser Winters def should’ve never got Banned. Most Streamers were cool af, but except they Raging Cry Baby Whining Streamers. Like XQC Trainwreck ETC... like at the beginning how XQC got mad n starting talking sh.it cuz Ser took the Drop, but when XQC does it to others or kills they Shamelessly, It’s okay n not bad or that he’s having the Most Fun doing it. But the moment other people do it, it’s Terrible n They’re mean n Ruining “my” Content, “wow what a DikheaD” . (Many other streamers n big streamers act like that Towards smaller Content Creators, especially XQC n Train) . Honestly how their mindset is just doesn’t make sense to me, when they do it, it’s fine and sooo funny/hilarious , but the moment someone else does, “wow that’s so fu.cked up” 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@P4Z44K]

Respect gained

[@HamsterPants522]

@@Jason-xf8ib Tyler1's rage isn't personal, though. He never attacks anyone or sends his community after anyone. He's honestly a really ethical guy, and I think he even avoids collaborating with most other streamers because he hates the petty dramas and the fake shit.

[@pvtadams1480]

"Oh Trainwreck You're the errr, you're the Ssser Winter fan right?" That shit made me laugh the second I realized what funny memes you've done on that server, stimpee couldn't have said it better.

[@jim8953]

Have you seen stimpee’s vid yet? Fucking amazing 🤣

[@pvtadams1480]

@@jim8953 Yeah I have, It was amazing.

[@IM-xs3uv]

Having watched this, I like Ser Winter even more. These big streamers are whingers.

[@Kao_Kraken420]

I'm following about 2 large streamers on twitch the rest be smaller ones and I like their content just a bit more than the big streamers

[@slaybomb96]

The other thing like I know they are mostly on twitch but they could have at least watched some tutorials on KZbin before starting to stream on Rust so they don't look so nooby. Everyone dies in the game its the point of survival you either live or die and some people can't handle it. Maybe if they learned how the game worked first before streaming it to their viewers they wouldn't have been threatening other smaller channels like Winters for no reason. It's great that they are streaming to a larger audiance and its helped a smaller game dev company like facepunch get more attention but man the toxicity that is going towards smaller channels from bigger streamers right now in this game is really bad. Look at what happened to Enardo and Mememio for instance. This game brings out the worst in us lol

[@prawnrl]

@@slaybomb96 the point of them starting in the game without that much knowledge is part of the content. It also allows fans to help and get in involved to teach and help whomever they are watching stream for the first time playing the game. Also everyone gets you die and rust is super sweaty , also people can just be straight up dicks but the point of the server is for it to not be like that it's so to be chill. Yes this server is a PVP server but there were rules saying for players with higher hours to go farther to actually fight good players and allow the new players get more used to the game. The server also was some rp too. This server isn't supposed to be like any normal rust server so some people trying to make content definitely would be mad by dying to some with an insane amount of hrs more than them. I think it got out of hand on everyone's part but whatever ban was made because of a rule broken. But with a server full of big streamers and toxicity drama will happen

[@slaybomb96]

@@prawnrl You are wrong, the pvp was allowed in the northern part of the map and it didn't matter how many hours you had that was more for groups. Also I understand a lot of them where first time players but read my comment again. They should have understood what they where getting into when they decided to download the game. It's one of the more brutal pc games that exist right now. I'm not giving these bigger streamers any slack because they where egotistical.

[@prawnrl]

@@slaybomb96 you are so stupid bro, they got into rust to be a streamer server for fun and it was for the most part supposed to be chill and everyone to be on similar levels. Your point is dumb because you are only looking at rust as some brutal and tough game with a community that has adapted to the norm but that's not what this is. It's a streamer server to get away from so much toxicity and to still pvp but not to get the "full rust experience". I also never said pvp wasn't allowed in the north all I said was something that was already in the rules

[@KittenKatja]

Watching the past 80min, your ban reminds me of my time in a staff discord guild. The headmaster is a busy man, streaming all day and leaving the server in the care of his subordinates while coming online from time to time and interacting with the community in form of events. I was invited to a staff-only guild as a non-staff with titles given to players that will have non-staff functionality on the server. I was part of the idea panel and later also part of beta testers. After two months, the head-admin told me to follow staff rules, but the staff guild did not have any rules, no rules channel, no basic conduct guidelines. I wasn't staff, so I couldn't tell if there were channels for support on probation or above, who could see those channels. They told me over and over to follow the staff rules, after telling me so much I made screenshots of my discord app, apparently, it's in another guild THAT I WAS AND STILL AM NOT IN. On the server, and on the guild, I was told that I can't impersonate staff because I am not staff, and before I joined the panel, I also assumed that I can't do that, yet they told me to follow staff rules. I think they or another server told me to follow "common sense" I repeatedly asked those who told me so to tell me which kind of common sense because the common sense of a non-rust gamer differs heavily from a seasoned rust player. I think you can guess that I am not talking about some rust server but another game's server.

[@lawlessfarming9878]

Just remember that the people who cares about your content are also the people you care about....and were not going anywhere other than coming back for more content. Love you Ser Wanker.

[@hcs626]

Aussie rust really does hit different because its usually the best

[@travisraasch5307]

We got your back down here in South Africa too Winter, xQc and Trainwreck where salty sally's. Keep it up Winter

[@carlmahn3915]

Honestly, this whole "I'm a big name online so obey me or prepare to be bombarded by my 11-year-old die-hard fans" thing is pretty sad and I have completely no sympathy for their rage.

[@BlingBoyOto]

Also the non stop dissing towards KZbin, makes no sense. Why would anyone gatekeep Twitch streaming is beyond me. Trainwreck is one fucked up weirdo and he really looks like one too.

[@connor3640]

@@BlingBoyOto making fun of appearances doesnt help your case whatsoever

[@ogvamp2]

@@BlingBoyOto I agree with you but don’t go around making fun of peoples looks. at least show how you yourself look before making someone of else so it’s fair.

[@BlingBoyOto]

@@connor3640 I don't get this response, there is no case for me. Trainwreck is the one who fucked up. @Barthazar No point in me showing what I look like, if it matters to you then I'll let you know that I've been asked out on dates by girls and I'm a sit indoor shut in type.

[@connor3640]

@@BlingBoyOto i can already tell that from the fact that you're a weeb

[@braelenslife]

“......We can’t piss off winter because winter will 1v4 us...”

[@rewtdawg9852]

With a revi and hv ammo lol

[@kevind3974]

Or he might just rampage with a bow again

[@ManiacRacing]

As a new rust player, all I can say is these people sound like spoiled children. If you don't wanna die, DON'T PLAY RUST. It's real simple. Lol. I have died like 4,893,675,462 times TODAY. You don't see me crying in chat. I cry at home in the basement like a REAL man.

[@chefjamesjr]

That was you that trolled Deansocool like that? I cried for an hour that shit was hilarious

[@HackerArmy03]

Its extremely funny how the otv rust streamers is silent about ser winter after this one dropped lmao

[@TheKapowz]

Well of course! The narrative they wanted to push is now clearly shown to be false and its been revealed how pathetic they really are, the only way to respond would be an apology but their egos won't allow for that so they just keep silent :DD

[@Drestas]

Its because they don't care

[@Vyhce]

pretty sure it's because none of them actually care about ser winter lol

[@toast8071]

@@Vyhce nono he has actually got a point.

[@Vyhce]

@@toast8071 I mean he does but I also think it's as simple as out of sight, out of mind. i don't really think it's that deep.

[@kylecarpenter1614]

sounds like trainwreck would fit right in a public server with that toxic crap, he showed some real maturity there.

[@terryfuldsgaming7995]

I was thinking the same thing about charlie and his cheating accusations. Just like a normal server. And the ironic thing is, thats what his whole rant was about. He says rust is known for being toxic. when really its just people exactly like him in the chat whining all day. The only difference is charlie didnt call winter the N word cuz he was streaming.

[@da_pawz]

Yup... I unfollow him immediately after he said those crap about Ser Winter relationship with Pookie Bear... Very Uncool.

[@imhenri5831]

you dont know train 😂

[@dravidianking1298]

@@terryfuldsgaming7995 wait what did Charlie say?

[@migo70]

Even watching this a year on I just hope some of the streamers have grown up (I doubt it). They display insane ego and their fans let them get away with it, it still makes me angry what TrainWreck said and he had literally no right to do so, nor any repercussions for what he did or said. It's a sad reality and I am glad you're still doing well!

[@migo70]

Amazing he was hypocritical about how you met your wife and he met his the same way yet yours is sad. He wasn't joking he was malding and can't control his anger. He needs anger management classes, ALOT of the main streamers do.

[@jimbo2947]

watch literally any livestream fails clip from a year back. Literally all of them sucking the big fat sweaty toes of their favourite streamers.

[@jimbo2947]

Also for some reason twitch streamers/viewers have this weird supremacy over youtube ppl. Like???

[@joehernandez9563]

Actually many of these same problems repeated themselves on the Nopixel GTA server. XQC is constantly involved in drama there these days. Some of these big streamers have huge egos, it's not something that will get better, because they are rewarded for it.