What REALLY Is Marxism?

Hasan explains the theory of Marxism and what it means to own the means of production verses the capitalist structure that we operate within today.
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[@soggalicious9972]

marxism is when black people can vote. duh. every patriot knows that.

[@notyouraveragechicken8479]

Literally marxist communist China brudder yee yee

[@disciplewill7696]

@@notyouraveragechicken8479 black people can vote in America, duh, you're brain washed bud.

[@améliehester6996]

@@disciplewill7696 To a lesser extent than white people, but yes, they can vote

[@ChillAssTurtle]

Hell ya brother

[@ch1nav1rus19]

Im black and i voted... nothing dyopped me... Edit: the only people who will argue with me are white people trying to have a purpose in life because theirs is to easy.

[@Quack24249.]

I’m a janitor, I like cleaning toilets. I get to put in my headphones and do my own thing. Plus seeing things get clean is cool. I understand what things we would need in overhead, and the things I don’t know I could learn or be advised on when voting. But right now, I’m thinking about quitting because I’m so alienated from my work. Cleaning for $10 an hour doesn’t make you want to continue doing it.

[@KC-ep6sg]

One of my best friends LOVED working at Dominoes, more than I ever would've expected, but over time the low pay, long hours, and managerial issues led to him quitting. He often put working at Dominoes over his schoolwork and social life (this was in college) purely because he loved it. The argument "who would do these jobs if there wasn't the threat of homelessness/death" falls apart for two reasons: people like you and my friend exist. A normal job can be really fulfilling if you enjoy it personally. The other reason it falls apart is because if working at mdconalds (for example) really is so terrible that there would be a massive labor shortage if people weren't literally under constant threat, then maybe that particular business doesn't deserve to stay open

[@KC-ep6sg]

To expand on this: I used to work at a hotel, and the labor shortage caused the conditions to be even worse than they already were (they were horrible regardless of the pandemic and labor shortage). I truly believe that hotel chain is one of those businesses that does not deserve to stay open. Now, I work in a restaurant where my parents would probably consider it a "meaningless job" but the work environment is so positive and friendly that I genuinely feel fulfilled at the end of the day. That's the kind of business that deserves to stay open, and the kind that I think people would still work at if we had no threat of losing our housing or healthcare

[@terrystevens3998]

Thank you comrade for doing work society needs to run smoothly

[@austinpw4061]

Capitalist literally think people are lazy and would never work without the constant threat of homelessness and hunger. Kropotkin addresses this over and over, pointing to how capitalists actually prevent us from doing work. On top of that the pandemic showed that people get bored and want to do shit.

[@MrDoomedtofail]

Ah but you see how could a janitor figure out how many litres of cleaning chemicals they have left in storage, or if they need a new mop head? The world would fall apart overnight without a managerial class overseeing such complexities.

[@bluedoge497]

Trying to see Hansan educate chat is like trying to have a serious conversation with middle schoolers who say no u and your mom for every question

[@ch1nav1rus19]

Brcause twitch is all children

[@bluedoge497]

@@ch1nav1rus19 u right

[@olska9498]

How is he "educating" them? He said that this "regular Pizza shop" is extracting $2,000,000 each year from their workers ($52/hr). He has the economic knowledge of a 13-year-old.

[@jw5931]

@UCwanap4-eNaffS832Rm8InQ Found the small business LARPlord

[@zedanide6984]

How can he educate people if he's not even educated in the first place

[@aaronmudd5064]

Here’s the thing: Even if you can prove that Communism has and never will work, it doesn’t prove that Capitalism is automatically the better alternative.

[@darylhynum1676]

If you could?

[@davesprivatelounge]

Sure as hell isnt working for me

[@davesprivatelounge]

@@darylhynum1676 Isn't Chyna communist brudder

[@xblade11230]

​@@davesprivatelounge in China they make up GDP numbers, theres no evidence that China's economy is growing

[@akshaydhingra6159]

@@xblade11230 china is the center of the global manufacturing economy. They are going to become the next #1 super power

[@mishaf19]

It’s whatever conservatives want it to be.

[@animavestra8533]

Communism is when you have to get vaccinated against a deadly virus

[@Doctor_Straing_Strange]

evil marxist communist socialists nazi fascist totalitarian anti-free-speech. That's marxism. Also, when the government does stuff

[@ambskater97]

marxism is when black woman in vidya game

[@Doctor_Straing_Strange]

@@ambskater97 marxism is when women want more rights than men because they want to vote without getting sexually harrassed, evil marxists!

[@feedthedemon1385]

@@ImInAgonyLOL .....Why?

[@bakermateo]

A Marxist-Socialist walks into a bar... and asks the bartender if he’s unionized.

[@smith2354]

Basically that scene from Shrek 2

[@blueyedevil1531]

Lol I like this

[@kalebevans2846]

The chemist next to him replies, "No, but I am unionized."

[@sheonyx]

We have a beer company called Union here. Ironically my Marxist friend refuses to drink it

[@ambskater97]

@@smith2354 They don't even have dental.

[@noahelbaraka1893]

More importantly it’s a method of analyzing class structure throughout history, with tools like dialectical materialism and historical materialism

[@09wrxin17]

Agreed. In fact, historical and dialectical materialism are (I would argue) the two founding and essential principles of Marxism.

[@noahelbaraka1893]

@@09wrxin17 well said 👏

[@TheCountOfMommysCrisco]

You mean like being aware that material reality exists as a constant chain of cause-and-effect wherein the past is continually constructing the present? I mean, yeah, obviously. Conservatives don't seem to realize the world existed before they woke up this morning, though.

[@BS-ln5om]

Tru

[@texajp1946]

check out richard wolff, democracy at work

[@Dell-ol6hb]

“Communism never worked brother, capitalism however is working I’m in crippling debt from medical expenses and student loans, and my wages haven’t increased in decades despite my production vastly increasing”

[@xavierriv41]

"Also my home will be on fire or underwater in the next 10 years"

[@justalostlocal]

How else could we sell our flooded houses to aquaman, the best benefit of capitalism duh

[@Squash101]

Right college was a choice of yours, taking out large loans is on the person. I am sympathetic to the medical bills, I'm for universal healthcare, no one gets injured by choice.

[@justalostlocal]

@@Squash101 Please, as if current market allows you to get a good job without college. Ideally college and university is also a place to practice social skills, visit other countries and get to know what you really want to do, bc guess what most ppl don’t know that when they’re under 20. But many Americans rather have everybody under educated and shame those who pursue higher education instead of lifting each other up, while their smug selves drawn in illusion of freedom of choice in late stage capitalism.

[@thejudge1728]

@@IIII...... "Just work harder 4head" Edit: in case this was actually sarcastic, sorry I didn't get it, shit's confusing.

[@bassoonistfromhell]

I agree with what you're saying about the pizza restaurant, but I also think that large restaurant corporations like McDonalds would not exist in the same way under socialism, instead we'd probably see more independent local restaurants run by people who really love what they're doing instead of big chains who run off of cheap food and exploited labor.

[@Inktron]

good👍

[@mathew2017]

that would be awesome!

[@7immy]

good!

[@mihailhirvonen553]

obviously

[@LuLzHQ]

good!

[@urangatun]

My favorite Himbo Marxist, explaining theory 🥵 and it isn't even my birthday

[@Will-jk6nw]

Hasan says he isn’t a Marxist

[@Skyaidrules]

@@Will-jk6nw did you watch the vid forehead

[@Will-jk6nw]

@@Skyaidrules I'm just going off of what he's said on stream before lol

[@Will-jk6nw]

@@L4ck0Ski11 I'd say he said that in a debate to simplify things, but he could've changed his stance since he said he wasn't a full marxist

[@kirbee5966]

If i can prove that i never touched my balls would you promise to never tell a single soul what you saw

[@wumbojet]

I love this style of video. As a brainless ape I would like for our ape leader to explain this sort of subjects in this manner more often.

[@yahyaehsan1164]

If you want to learn more about marx I'd recommend philosophy tubes series on Marx or just read Marx's work (Capital, communist manifesto etc.)

[@indieiscool7627]

Literally same

[@josh-zb9dr]

Agreed. Ape leader explaining things is good. My 4th grade vocabulary gets me confused sometimes but I always have Bernie’s reassuring gaze to lend me knowledge.

[@SeaSerpentLevi]

i feel u lol... our more experienced comrades really inspire and help us to improve. someone i know usually says, if you cant explain it simply, you just really dont know it that much yet. And i feel like not only i need to study soooo much, there is so much to study to strengthen my knowledge because i started late, but also so much to improve on being a good communicator of that knowledge... its hard, but i gotta do what i gotta do.

[@ryanmilliken5950]

I wouldn't say that goal is to democratize the economy. That's just part of the process to the real end goal which is overcoming the law of value. Basically that just means that production will be based on use value and fulfilling the needs of humanity rather than production for exchange and profit.

[@__hazel.]

yeah hasan seems like he’s just a market socialist

[@cereszin]

Beautifully said

[@ryanmilliken5950]

@@__hazel.I'm all for workers co-ops. They are a vast improvement over what we have now, but alone they can't overcome all the contradictions of capitalism.

[@zacdelos]

@@ryanmilliken5950 agreed

[@karlpalisoc9289]

I mean he did say there are different ways to coming to the conclusion to be fair, this is just a basic theory stream his not gonna go into the ins and outs of Marxism and as he said he doesn’t have all the answers which most people don’t even attest to.

[@md.tahmeedhossain9409]

Marxism is when Marx was crying about not being able to express his opinions anymore as a straight white man

[@kyeo6753]

I’m from Moscow and my friend worked in a bar with horizontal management structure. I sent this video to her and asked if they could implement something like this. We share the same values anyway so I knew it was worth a shot. After the first meeting at work everyone agreed that it’s a great idea! It was about 1.5 years ago. 4 times a year they have an event when all profit go to the workers like in that pizza place in Ohio mentioned. They came up with the name “Workers quarter”. A couple of months ago another mutual place implemented the same practice in their workplace. Just wanted to share an example.

[@patrickgabrielson690]

Yet people will call this evil because "it's russia". Really sad.

[@dianarosas4002]

I love clips like this, since I can send it to my brainwashed friends that simply think Marxism = govt totalitarianism and watch them try to refute what those of us on the left actually believe in. More videos like this please!

[@darylhynum1676]

It hasn't and won't work because a tyrant WILL hijack the movement

[@zeltron5168]

I mean, they're partially right. If the system enforcing "Marxism" is corrupt and power-hungry, which has usually been the case historically speaking, to the point where they curb certain aspects of humanity or basic rights, it's a tainted system. The reason I put Marxism in quotes is because we have never experienced Marxism in its TRUE nature because of the tendency of a governing body to become corrupted or make use of crony capitalism in order to bolster power and foster nepotism among collaborating corporations. Even though capitalism has many flaws, it has a relatively lesser tendency to be corrupted by excessive government overreach. So yeah, even though I feel like Marxism is a great system, I'm yet to come across a good argument to prove that the enforcing body in the united states or any part of the world for the matter, is free from any tendencies favoring authoritarianism or toxic overreach.

[@Odgin]

@@darylhynum1676 It's amazing how people like you always conflate economic concepts with political concepts. Shows how people have no idea of what they're talking about.

[@darylhynum1676]

@@Odgin no I'm sorry I'm a realist. And during a Communist revolution you have to have some sort of a purge pulling the capitalists down from their perch that is and this will cause bloodshed and this will cause a leader to force himself to the top

[@darylhynum1676]

Heaven sounds like a great place but can you really show me how to get there?

[@MegaTp4]

Wow Hasan this is so valuable. It was unimaginable 20 years ago that this was something you could say to an audience of thousands because marxism was completely outlawed from the mainstream conversation.

[@tteotdead]

There has been propaganda surrounding things like Marxism and socialism for the better part of the last century. We have been led to believe that capitalism is the only option. It's never too late to realize that we have been led to act against our own self interests by the people who have been exploiting us.

[@kirbee5966]

If I can prove that I never touched my balls would you promise to never tell a single soul what you saw

[@insidejokespodcast3956]

Kinda crazy. Those intolerant motherfuckers. How selfish. Imagine losing your brothers siblings fathers mothers uncles etc and then not wanting to adapt the ideologies that started the war they died in. Thats disgusting. Thank god we have young people who have no clue bringing it back up. All those stupid victims should shut up

[@lilinkbitch]

@@insidejokespodcast3956 so mccarthy was a survivor huh

[@mertle7114]

bro i deadass thought he was going to say "marxism is just a theory, a GAME THEORY"

[@theroach247]

Marx a real one

[@davinator_peepo2102]

🥶🥶💪💪🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😅😅😅😅

[@thirty-four7497]

That's on keef

[@activistisgud3671]

😫🤌🏻 so true

[@zgunepic]

Built different type beat

[@texajp1946]

check out richard wolff, democracy at work

[@thecomrade1196]

When my parents immigrated over, they came with basically nothing except for my dad's phd. They were able to save up and afford a down payment on their first house. Now im not sure if i will be able to afford a down payment for a mortgage in my lifetime and yet chatters say shit like "capitalism seems to be working".

[@nina_scholten]

I’d love more theory streams, to me it’s so important to be able to back your takes on currents events with an actual ideology

[@trevorl8307]

Hasan this is a long video when you could have just said Marxism = no iPhone

[@randomthings1293]

no iPhone Vuvuzela 100 trillion deds

[@Luckytrapt]

If the gamers of chat feel left out sometimes imagine how us theory nerds feel. Down bad lol

[@sriprabhavdulla419]

Me when I'm both: 😎

[@Luckytrapt]

@@sriprabhavdulla419 I’m in your department. I feel you.

[@sriprabhavdulla419]

@@Luckytrapt wdym

[@Luckytrapt]

@@sriprabhavdulla419 I’m in both lol

[@sriprabhavdulla419]

@@Luckytrapt oh

[@camaradamanuel5025]

man, I love this channel and Hasan. it's like I have a community to take part on. I enjoy this kind of videos because in any other channel I would expect that the majority of people is just bashing left-wing ideologies (political, economical or cultural ideologies) but watching this comment section is just so comfy and I'm pretty happy I found it. it makes me feel like there's hope in humanity. thank you all, guys. greetings from Chile!

[@dadaismotienekasepta]

Hola Pico pal que lee

[@erenraymond3234]

Also, Bolivia is a Socialist country. And when the US attempted a coup there in the last couple of years, when they held new elections the people of Bolivia voted Socialism back in and arrested the temporary president who was a fascist, and now she is sitting in jail.

[@dedecrf9621]

It is not a socialist country in the strict sense of the term (unfortunately), there is a bourgeoisie owning the means of producting and profiting, most of the work force needs to sell their work to them. But its current government for sure sympathizes with socialism or at least with a less agressive form os capitalism (and this is enough to the US attempt a coup).

[@jesuscoronado642]

The problem in South America is that we rely on the outside markets so much that if we take other rout that isn't strictly capitalism we can quickly get fucked, that's why it would fail even if the most competente people try to implement it. The change has to start from those who run the world currently.

[@waspwrap1235]

4:04 in communism, for an example, the Soviet union, you were paid based on the quality and quantity of your work. You were still provide a basic necessities, that literally everybody needs to survive like food and shelter, but, you could access more things you wanted, if you worked harder

[@wehavebiscuits]

This shows Hasan isn't actually a Himbo. He's so skilled at explaining complicated topics in a digestable and also funny way

[@moodycxnt]

Understanding Marxism isn't really that difficult. A himbo can definitely grasp it. Even cuckservatives can if they try.

[@sciencenonfiction4109]

I agree, baby steps. If you tell people in Americer we need socialism right now, they'd probably do something terrifying. Then again, they'll still redefine every small step. Incredibly frustrating country.

[@ttbr7687]

Incrementalism, look up Bernstein.

[@shantanusingh5320]

@@ttbr7687 look up Lenin trashing Bernstein

[@ttbr7687]

@@shantanusingh5320 look up if you want a ML government that's fine but most people favour the parliamentary route to socialism.

[@tofolcano9639]

@@ttbr7687 what most people favor doesn't matter. What matters is what movement abolishes capitalism.

[@ttbr7687]

@@tofolcano9639 interesting, well I can point to the recent victories in Peru and Bolivia to demonstrate the success of parliamentary socialism. You can point to some revolutions that happened in the early to mid 20th century. Material conditions have changed, get with the times.

[@iRadinVerse]

You know it's kind of crazy that one of the biggest creators on Twitch is out here spewing socialist fire

[@aliteralfart3819]

God fucking damn it why can't I be this articulate when I'm yelling at my friends about the failure that is capitalism

[@lolabunny6788]

Hahahahaha legit

[@silviuvirgil12]

Cause unlike in a stream, real people can point out what you argue is stupid

[@andrescrespo2514]

It will never not bother me that people don’t realize that wages are already taken into account when discussing profits. If revenue is greater than expenses(profit) then wages can be increased.

[@tieman3790]

But they dont increase the wages, do they? They CAN be increased but they dont. Theyll increase their own wages and bonusses.

[@youtubeman5078]

If the business fails, it is the owner who is stuck with the loan to repay not the employee. Why should the worker be entitled to profits if they do not have equal risk?

[@justalostlocal]

Dude, the whole point is there shouldn't be a singular owner who either get it all or lose it all. Responsibility and profit should be distributed amongst all the workers according to their labour. Besides in the current system when a business is failing what do a owner cut first? Your f*cking salary or just straight up fires you. As if the workers aren't the one getting the short end of the stick in most situations.

[@youtubeman5078]

@@justalostlocal workers are allowed to come together, pool their resources and start a business where they all share in profits and risk. This is something that is perfectly legal. I highly doubt it would work though because not everyone has the same skills when it comes to business. Every little decision would take a vote and debating and even simple things would be slowed down. A top down structure is exactly what a business needs to thrive provided the person on top is competent, if they’re not competent the business fails. Simple.

[@randomthings1293]

@@youtubeman5078 You can't justify the owner personally taking 1000 (or even 50), or more, times the money of their lowest-paid employee, NO MATTER how much skill the owner has and no matter how you spin it. It's just morally wrong because it means that an excessive amount of the employees' productivity has been taken (a.k.a. STOLEN) for personal use by someone else who was not involved in the actual productive work. Yet this is exactly and routinely what Capitalism leads to and encourages.

[@aaronbanse2744]

Another thing is that automation is going to make a lot of jobs obsolete. Under capitalism, this means more profits for the owners and more unemployment, but under socialism, it means more money for everyone and more freedom to do what you love.

[@shadeaquaticbreeder2914]

I absolutely hate when people say that if you go out of capitalism then people wouldn't want to do anything but sit on the couch. Like that's such a lie, everyone would do what they WANT to do. Capitalism makes people not want to do anything bc it beats people into the ground by forcing them to effectively be wage slaves and it's only a miracle if they are able to get to do what they want to and even then they are still strapped by the capitalist system so therefore they must exploit people in some way to be able to live as well. Like idky people don't understand that everyone could have everything. They could, we could just give everyone everything if we wanted to but we don't. And capitalism/a ruling class holds us back so far on actual new inventions and research and it's so aggravating when people say the opposite. Also I just recently actually started watching your vids and I gotta say I absolutely love you, and I am completely in agreement with your economic ideology. I think it's pretty well a duh position or at least should be lol

[@morgane4212]

As a waitress who sometimes has to clean the toilets... It changes everything to get paid the equivalent of 18,24$/hour minimum (more before 9 am and after 5 pm), while also working less (4 days/week and 32h/week on average) for my mental state and my sense of achievement. I live in Iceland, and thanks to UNIONS, I have this incredible base salary, which represents 2 times the minimum net salary in my former country (France). And I feel even more outraged that so much people don't get the chance to get the peace of mind that goes with such salary and work hours.

[@haydudebudd94]

It’s not a political ideology... it’s a lifestyle.

[@austinwilliams2526]

It’s a science

[@sakugasam17]

I’ve been subbed for 10 months and the one time he does a theory stream I miss it. I cannot fucking believe it

[@bbybee]

Sadge

[@alexramey2062]

"But hey, it's just a theory.... An *economic* theory! Thanks for watching." -Kyle Mark, political KZbinr.

[@mackswellgg]

The very last sentence of this video is a perfect example of how sharply the curriculum in the Hasanabi daycare can change

[@elliotno]

Theory streams are always the best

[@perrymason4208]

It's wild how ignorant chat is about Marxism, pick up a damn book chat.

[@huh1570]

Most Has viewers are DSA type socialist or rad libs so I would not expect many of them to be educated on theory

[@richardnuggets9531]

All Has viewers are socdems or redlibs haha exposed checkmate🤠

[@handofmidas9609]

@@richardnuggets9531 what redlibs mean

[@richardnuggets9531]

Redlibs is when black people vote

[@handofmidas9609]

@@richardnuggets9531 cmon bruh

[@Treblemaker888]

The basis of Marx’s work is that conflict arises from economic inequality, so maintaining capitalism is a way of guaranteeing civil unrest. Don’t forget to mention that, it’s a pretty essential part.

[@BENKYism]

"Maintaining capitalism is a way of guaranteeing civil unrest" Why would people create new businesses under socialism? What's the point of risking a huge amount of time and money only to make as much as someone who risked nothing and has a much easier job than you? It's absolute insanity! If the US became a socialist country, there would be a hell of a lot more civil unrest than there is now.

[@val_ist]

In other words, Marx's own maids should have slapped his face and gone on strike.

[@bbybee]

Theory stream LETSGO

[@MustardMasterX]

I’m just glad chatter said “a game theory” after hasan started off with “it’s just a theory”.

[@sarahwillacker4135]

My kink is Hasan explaining something very slowly then asking “do you understand?”

[@trex_inspace]

baiting hasan to run an ad break during his flustered explanation of marxism is policom gold

[@dumbloser666]

people keep trying to apply marxism or socialism or communism or whatever to capitalism rather than replace it, thats why they cant understand it, because they cant imagine a world thats not capitalist

[@dannya1854]

I fucking lose it when he gets jebaited to announcing top o the hour and then threatens chat it brings me so much fucking joy

[@periodicgaming5159]

2nd chatter has a point. This is capitalism working. He just forgot to write “as intended.” Oh, that was pointed out.

[@NN-uk4tm]

I'm glad he has an official video on this because I think a lot of new leftists are finding his channel and Marxism is a need to know for any leftist

[@qpunk1]

damn no shout out to Richard Wolff? if anyone wants to know more on the subject look him up.

[@pixality7902]

Honestly when I worked retail I loved the smile on a kids face when I found a hot item for them. I loved helping parents and customers who were appreciative of my efforts. I didnt mind going above and beyond because I could spend time helping customers on the floor, or I could cashier more. I didnt mind cashiering because I knew I was fast and did a good job. Now I work in research and take that with me. It's possible to take pride in even menial work. My goal every day was just to make someone's day better. Luckily for me I lived somewhere that minimum wage was enough for me to get by with roommates but I'm sure if i had been financially insecure it would have been a shitton more difficult. Unfortunately nasty customers made it harder but I learned to get some satisfaction out of saying fuck you with a smile.

[@StraussMax]

Lmao when he said “capitalism is working” is precisely a very good way to explain, quickly, one of the many thesis in Marx

[@manamancer]

Communism is when poverty, obviously. Venezuala

[@tombussy]

Very good explanation from Hasan trying to simplify a very complicated theory but still recommend to try to read it yourself try to understand it and before or after check other summaries and perspectives to help you understand better.

[@NutsTesticles]

Socialism will never be brought about through reform. It is explained pretty extensively in State and Revolution

[@Jeff-hn8iy]

Intelligent Discussion of Marxism = based Simping for American Capitalism = cringe

[@naz3858]

That sums up how some people see it

[@claytonhawes4731]

Marxism is when black kids at the park laugh at me for not being able to eat taco bell mild sauce packets

[@ProfresherBlacklight]

…all progress in capitalistic agriculture is a progress in the art, not only of robbing the labourer, but of robbing the soil; all progress in increasing the fertility of the soil for a given time, is a progress towards ruining the lasting sources of that fertility.

[@STLtubes314]

True... And the Oil industry loves that every inch of flat earth has to be mowed, for ascetic, or harvested, to make food cheep, so the can monetize the 500 milion years plants took carbon out of the atmosphere... Looks sustainable.

[@GlassesAndCoffeeMugs]

I'd argue communism as defined by Marx as being a "stateless, classless, borderless, moneyless society" has never been implemented. What we've had throughout history are world leaders who implemented their own version of "communism" with tweaks, often so that it primarily benefits the rich at the expense of the poor, which in that sense makes it very similar to capitalism, but as of yet we haven't seen any country implement a version of communism faithful to what Marx conceptualized it as.

[@Josh-oj9mm]

Most Marxist Leninists say that true communism can only be achieved when every country is socialist anyway. Which is fucking dumb, it'll take fucking forever for that to happen even if you're optimistic.

[@wookiefurball6726]

Even in Star Trek you could tick off the Federation as being a classless, and internally a moneyless society. But it was still a state with borders externally and internally. To deal with other species like Ferengi, ultra vulture capitalists, you still needed money as a means of exchange. Communism manifested in the world has just been authoritarians using Marx's definition as a way to enforce their own political will's on others. Marx does a good job of defining/ diagnosing problems with capitalism, and can give a definition of an end goal alternative, but can't come up with a way to fill in all the blanks in-between.

[@yuerry]

@@Josh-oj9mm you don't know what true communism is, do you?

[@dimetronome]

First of all, communism was extremely successful- “primitive communism” dominated in every inhabited part of the world for 90% of human history and continues to exist in some hunter gatherer societies. Secondly, no world leaders have ever implemented “communism with tweaks” because no “Communist” regimes have ever reached the stage of communism (even those Communist regimes will claim, at most, that they have reached some level of socialism) because they were never able to implement a classless, moneyless, stateless society.

[@jamesgs5228]

@@Josh-oj9mm no. Marx/Engels themselves say this.

[@ktbyrd]

Hasan: read a book or something idk! just don’t burden me with the responsibility of educating you! it’s incredibly exhausting… Chatter: I’m sorry, Poggo, I was just trying to become a better person.

[@notadoll17]

Welcome to the Internet!

[@TheLily97232]

That's what happened yes

[@rustinweiner2568]

lmao! this is what RadLib chatters say to Hasan when they can't make any points when did Hasan say this, tho?

[@Salem0666x]

good reference

[@floopsiemcsoops6008]

I think leftists should reframe socialism as 'Democracy in our workplace'.

[@HarryS77]

Socialism is much more than that and shouldn't be further diluted.

[@floopsiemcsoops6008]

@@HarryS77 frankly, the left could work on their framing. It doesnt matter that its more complicated.

[@HarryS77]

@@floopsiemcsoops6008 Framing is sort of irrelevant. What needs to be changed is the way people think. Changing a word won't do that, and most people aren't so stupid as to not notice the bait-and-switch. If you've talk to normal people about how work is organized, you'll find that many have deep-seated suspicions about "workplace democracy" and even their fellow workers (not unexpected in a heavily surveilled, restricted, and competitive society), that work can be productively carried out absent a managerial hierarchy, and that people will want to work without coercion. Opposition to socialism isn't built on a word which people associate with vague, negative connotations; it's built on a deep distrust of people and a faith in hierarchy. Malatesta recognized the hollowness of the PR approach to the label anarchism: "Nor is the phenomenon without parallel in the history of words. In times and in countries where the people believed in the need for government by one man (monarchy), the word republic, which is government by many, was in fact used in the sense of disorder and confusion - and this meaning is still to be found in the popular language of almost all countries. "Change opinion, convince the public that government is not only unnecessary, but extremely harmful, and then the word anarchy, just because it means absence of government, will come to mean for everybody: natural order, unity of human needs and the interests of all, complete freedom within complete solidarity. "Those who say therefore that the anarchists have badly chosen their name because it is wrongly interpreted by the masses and lends itself to wrong interpretations, are mistaken. The error does not come from the word but from the thing; and the difficulties anarchists face in their propaganda do not depend on the name they have taken, but on the fact that their concept clashes with all the public’s long established prejudices on the function of government, or the State as it is also called." David Graeber also points out that even today, there's a prevailing distrust of democracy as something fragile, not to be trusted to certain groups, or liable to lapse into ochlocracy.

[@floopsiemcsoops6008]

@@HarryS77 straight up, this is why the right is better at mobilizing the working class. They are constantly better at framing issues as to be something their base believes in. When you poll their answers, however, conservatives consistently believe in leftists concepts as long as you don't name them as leftists concepts. People like you grossly overestimate the average voter and you underestimate the power of framing. You could ask people whether or not they should have more socialism and every single conservative would answer no. If you would ask them if they should have more ownership of the fruits of their labor in the sense that a CEO wouldnt make every decisiom over their work the result would be very different. People already want to better their lives. They dont need to change their fundamental beliefs, they are just indoctrinated to believe that any of these positive programs actually are meant to hurt them. It'd be hard for conservatives to spin 'democracy' though.

[@HarryS77]

@@floopsiemcsoops6008 It's like you didn't even bother reading my comment. Conservatives believe in leftist concepts like abolishing private property, dismantling the state, having a commitment to equal protections for social minorities, and reorganizing society on a non-hierarchical basis? Really? Which poll showed that? I must've missed it. Politics isn't merely a matter of shuffling around some signifiers until people's beliefs match their material needs. One has to attend to the meaning behind the word and the long-inculcated, highly propagandized notions of what is necessary for society-competition, hierarchy, ownership, use of force. The people who reject socialism reject it for particular reasons. They may not be good reasons, but they must be grappled with. If anyone's underestimating "the average voter" (not sure why "voter" is the unit of analysis) it's you. That you think some conservatives agreeing with a modicum of social democracy (built on third world exploitation) speaks less to their willingness to budge left as it does to the lengths to which you had to go to put the left within their reach-not by making an appeal to the meaning of "socialism," not by overturning fundamental assumptions, not by dispelling double consciousness,but by bringing socialism more in line with capitalism. Thinking that politics is primarily a matter of branding is a peculiarly liberal way of looking at things, as if we were trying to sell soda or launder a reputation. It doesn't require action. It doesn't require a transformation of personal and social consciousness. Imagine that you had said to people in the black or gay rights movements that their real problem was branding, and if only they used different language and different tactics, the public would be on their side. In fact, people did just that, and they were wrong. People didn't change their minds about these groups because of a change of label. They changed because of repeated, provocative, enduring exposure, violent repression, and because of association with people in their own lives. They had to change the way they thought and related to black and LGBT people. If you start calling socialism "workplace democracy," you're either not really being true to the aims and commitments of socialism, or you're just being dishonest with people. And what's to stop reactionaries from simply associating "workplace democracy" with socialism, just as they've done with countless other terms and subjects regardless of their connection to socialism? If you're not aware of the (by now) centuries of conservative propaganda against democracy, I don't know what to tell you. Just about any Republican would be thrilled to inform you that we have a constitutional republic, not a democracy.

[@ChillAssTurtle]

It's everything my dad doesn't like.

[@pinkmoon831]

Capitalism: "I drink yooouur milkshake...I drink it up"!

[@Kamasutrawhat]

This is such a succinct description of socialism. It is so often misrepresented as meaning 'social benefits' or 'social programs '. It's about socialising the economy, to make the workers recieve the value of their labour.

[@waspwrap1235]

5:26 that’s not always the truth, i.e. volunteering work

[@theone4782]

This Video is one of your bests, its so logical bro. Every capitalists supporter who doesnt own a companny should understand this.

[@cucklord-wl1tp]

53% of US households own equity in the stock market. Everyone whom has a pension owns stock. Everyone whom has a 401k, roth IRA or regular IRA account again owns an interest in the stock market. So I guess a minority of 'capitalists' understands this. But lets break that down further because anyone whom 'understands' was probably already inclined to.

[@Cherryblossoms110]

I think what a lot of people fail to understand about working in fast food is that it's a lot more fun than it seems. You get to work in a small team to push out an insane amount of food quickly... it's like playing an action game. And because everybody seems to have this mistaken belief that you can just push around fast food workers, the senior staff members who stay behind are like titans who take absolutely zero bullshit from the customers. It also gets so busy that nobody has time to waste on stupid drama. I've worked like 9 different part time jobs so far and I've never had as much fun before. If I could earn a proper living off working at a fast food restaurant alone, I wouldn't hesitate to take the offer... but alas...

[@lpeter722]

We all need ownership of our production

[@themajesticspider-man6116]

That 60 second ad break stunlock at the end was golden.

[@Death_By_Media]

The easiest analogy ( concerning the pizza shop example ) is that you are the shareholders and get input on how and where the budget gets spent and part of the budget is your compensation .

[@trentschwartz2881]

How would start ups work under this democratization of the workplace? Do you think it would be easier or harder for startups to thrive while allocating the risk among all workers?

[@Death_By_Media]

@@trentschwartz2881 No It could succeed or fail just like now only difference internally would be there would not be a possibility of a CEO getting rich grifting it before it bombs out . Externally it would have a better or more equal chance of being a success as competitors wouldn’t have any artificial or political bought leg up advantage to try and blackball a new comer out .

[@JulesRocks]

im just saying hasan.... i would love more of this. this is great content

[@TromboneMusicMS]

Let’s take a moment to analyze the pizza shop example. First off, the $6,300 is revenue, not profit. Pizza shops usually have a profit margin of around 20%, leaving $1,260 in profit for the day. Assuming that the pizza shop has 10 employees, this would leave the hourly wage at 30.75/hr ($15 minimum wage + profit sharing), which is no where near $78/hr. If all profits were split evenly amongst pizza shop employees every day, the business owner, who takes on more financial risk than the employees by buying a place, buying equipment, risking lawsuits, buying supplies, etc., the incentives for business creation, alongside job creation, would die out, leaving no one with any money. If we account for the business owner making money off his own business, which is expected, and he gets $300/day, that would leave the employees with $27/hr. Take home pay rate would be around $24.975/hr after fica taxes are deducted. Your gripe with capitalism is not with the capitalist system, but rather the corruption of politicians spending money they don’t have, which inflates the money supply through deficit borrowing,and the federal reserve printing money, causing the dollar to weaken, making your bills inflate while you don’t get higher wages; the corrupt government and fed are robbing you and pointing at corporate greed as the problem, even though inflation can only come from the expansion of the money supply, which the fed controls. Point your fingers at those at the top of power exploiting everyone’s life with their power instead of businesses that can ONLY offer you something in return for your money. Are there corrupt humans, yes, but the capitalist system is not to blame. Blaming capitalism instead of the exploiters like the elite class that control world governments and money is like saying a gun walks around shoots everyone dead while we all know the real culprit is the one behind the trigger.

[@TromboneMusicMS]

Plus, the employees agree to the wages they receive, so they aren’t being exploited, it’s all contractual and agreed upon beforehand.

[@raemmio2761]

You don't split money equally. You split it to equal to the amount of value that the worker has produced. Not to mention the employee is at greater risk then the employer. As if the business goes side ways they can always just sell which will get the employer at least in a better position than the employee who now has no job and needs to find another job quickly or else can become homeless. The employee is under the behest of the employer as if they do something that the employer doesn't like will get the employee to lose their job. This creates a hierarchy of the capital owner ontop of the worker who has to work in order to get a wage in order to live. capitalism promotes a profit motive which under capitalism creates a dynamic of the businesses/capital treated as the actual thing that needs to be protected above all. Even in social democracies it still takes advantage of workers on a global scale as European countries and especially the Nordic countries take advantage of the global south. When capital becomes concentrated into smaller and smaller areas created what we see as monopolies more and more power is also concentrated into these monopolies not only economically but politically. That is why the parties fall in line with corporations under capitalism. The system capitalism encourages exploitation of the working class. the government is just there to keep things stable as much as possible. The government is not separated from the system it is part of the system to keep it from changing and enforce what is considered the status quo. The reason why it has gone worse is because that money that used to go to the public sector is not moved towards the private sector instead. this is due to capital growing strong enough to where constant chipping and lobbying from the capitalist class has eroded the social amenities that used to be there. blaming the current state of things of how capitalism is working is like blaming a dog for growing up from a puppy. What is happening now was inevitable. Whether you tried to slow it down with social policies like Europe or something it will slowly wither away those regulations or social policies. You are focusing on the symptom of the system while completely ignoring what is causing all of this.

[@TromboneMusicMS]

The employee agrees to the wages beforehand, so they are not being exploited. If you are concerned about losing your job because you depend on the wealth of another person to sustain you, start your own business; however, get ready to recognize that the financial risk of the employer you belittle isn’t so little. Don’t like how expensive life is that you want to take away from the income of a business owner? Then point your finger to the corrupt federal reserve, the sole source of inflation, that devalues your currency by expanding the money supply to exploit you, and the corrupt government that deficit borrows like hell, sends your tax dollars overseas (which they extracted from you, by the way, unlike a business which can only offer you something in return for your money), and create poor policies in favor of the lobbyists. Why do lobbyists go to the government? Because the government has TOO MUCH power, which is NOT a capitalist thing, and don’t have your best self-interest at heart. Don’t like the profit motive? Wait until all your local small and big business flee and your life is at the whims of an exponentially more unaffordable… everything. Want a much higher minimum wage? Wait until a ton of businesses declare bankruptcy and millions are left jobless. Again, the federal reserve has the sole responsibility for destroying the purchasing power of your wages, and the government extracts your labor through exorbitant taxes (FICA, income, property, sales, tariff, capital gains, inheritance, gift taxes, and more) that they end up mismanaging at your expense.

[@NYKIKE]

I'm trying to start my own business. I want to be as lefty as possible while being realistic with risk/reward/original idea. I am trained in the medical field so I do struggle in economics and I liked the video, as usual, but I'm confused as to what is the economic incentive for the owner of the pizza place to split profits in this current environemnt. I like the concept and I wish this was how things worked, but splitting my profit while taking the loans and responsability of the owning the company seems challenging. I was thinking of having 10% of my profits be divided between my workers and I want to incentivize unions if they ever deem it necessary because I believe unions are just the ethically correct thing to advocate for. I was just curious if you thought 10% was enough and if not, what you would do in that scenario and why. Found your streams and content after seeing you talk to Kyle and Krystal and being a lefty myself, your content is awesome - thank you and keep doing you

[@changedmynamebcyallwouldnt..]

i have pretty much the same exact problem so i can't really help you with that but i'm commenting so i get a notification if someone responds to you, so i mean good luck and have a good one :)

[@judithkim4050]

the idea is that the risk is taken on by the group as well, for the beginnings of a coop style business you can do something like "pay a wage" for a period until the surplus value created by the worker can buy them the proper share of the business, thus lightening your personal risk. once they are an owner like you they should get a proper share of profits.

[@Victini0510]

Take what you need to pay off the loans and mortgages, other necessary loans for the business to remain open. Then take what's left and split it between everyone accordingly. The point isn't to make sure everyone is paid equally, despite having different responsibilities and jobs. It's to make sure everyone is fairly compensated for their labor and not left out to dry. You would take a larger share of the profits ofc, but that doesn't mean 99% while the workers split 1%. At the end of the day it's still capitalist and exploitation, but somewhat minimized. Ideally you would turn it into a workers coop and everyone would share in the profits and be equally responsible for the mortgages and loans and what not. There would be no capital owner who is solely responsible for everything.

[@fakenamerealchungus9851]

Just to note, in this ideal that Hasan's talking about you wouldn't exist as an owner or CEO or whatever; in a fully democratic company, your role as the sole decision maker becomes obsolete. Some worker cooperatives like that already exist as far as I know. So there's no "economic incentive" for the capital owner under capitalism, which is why a socialist approach doesn't have singular owners of capital, it has democratic cooperatives as described in the video.

[@benfischer6601]

I have a business (currently sole prop) as well and you should check out Richard Wolff of the New School who talks about worker co-ops i.e. Democracy at Work. I don't think it's viable in the current paradigm to get one running right off the bat without approximately equal share in expertise/capital ownership (large tools, assets, etc.) among the starting workers. If there is an imbalance in that, then it makes sense that the person fronting the majority of capital to start should essentially have control of those things. Employing someone with a good wage is as good as it gets ethically, in my opinion, when the business is small. When you start to have more than 10 employees, it might be time to think of switching to a worker cooperative model, but again the real evil in the system of capitalism is that workplace is essentially a dictatorship. That might be good and necessary when the business is tiny (provided your workers are able to live comfortably), but for large companies like Amazon, it can be and is deeply exploitative.

[@theproletariatreport6283]

Hasan: I’m a reformist America:keeps shifting further right

[@vanessak267]

this was so good i'm gonna show it to all of my friends in an attempt to radicalise them

[@NotMac]

It’ll never get old when chat jebaits Hasan into an ad break, especially mid stunlock

[@theonlymexicanman4422]

Marxism is when my friend Mark takes some of my fries without asking Therefore Mark is bad

[@randomhippocat]

i didn't really know how marxism would work for jobs, but this seems like it would be way better. it would essentially cut out the 'higher ups' who get all the money for our work. i work at a domino's pizza, i do all the inventory, supply orders, all i don't do is hiring and bills pretty much. we make about 3000-5000 dollars a day (on average, obviously sometimes it can be more or less). for an average weekday about $900 is paid in wages, the goal is for wages to be 18% of the profit. food orders are about $400 dollars, 3 times a week. coke order is about $360 once a week. cleaning supplies are about $150-$200 (i'm pretty sure around there anyway) placed once a month. obviously i'm not sure about bills or advertising costs, but even still there's $13 790 profit at the end of every week. (for the people in chat complaining that hasan didn't account for supplies like at 10:15, here you go)

[@muuhpropertyyy2465]

Wow, you really studied hard on this and also thought about this a lot. Thanks, Hasan.

[@christianwhittall5889]

I should remind everyone in the comments that co-operatives *aren’t a theory* . I’m Bri’ish and live next to a business called The Co-operative(guess what type of business it is) which is an highly successful conglomerate in the UK and gives back to the community.

[@sw1tch327]

I find it funny how people in his chat were bootlicking and whining about it being "revenue" when it quite literally was profit smh

[@PixelPhobiac]

If this is profound k owledge even for Hasan watchers, imagine how many other Americans still need to be enlightened

[@texajp1946]

check out richard wolff, democracy at work

[@hansschutz398]

This is the Richard Wolff version of Marxism which is only half the truth. Marxism is not only about Production and "democracy in the workplace" it's also about the process of Realization, ie, the extraction of profit from consumers, but everyone stop at Vol1 of Kapital and skip Vol2 and Vol3. David Harvey is a much better Marxist and explanator of Marxism than Richard Wolf. It's very weird that Wolff is the Academic Popstar of Marxism in the last couple of years and Harvey's extremely valuable lectures and books haven't made it into "mainstream" yet.

[@GalacticNovaOverlord]

Agreed, though I don't know who David Harvey is

[@hansschutz398]

​@@GalacticNovaOverlord Harvey is one of the most respected geographers in the world, he dedicated the last 10 years of his life to explaining Marx. He has dozens and dozens of lectures (besides the books) on KZbin and every single one of them is precious and illuminating.

[@Pharry_]

1:29 In a way, this IS capitalism working exactly like its supposed to. That's the issue here.

[@QuestioningLogic]

I felt like Hasan was talking to me cuz I’m a unionized custodian lol imma go eat my boss on Monday lol

[@TheLily97232]

That was so interesting ! It is things I felt were not right for so long. I work for you but you give me an allowance for the work I do and YOU decide how much my work is worth. The way society treats essential workers proves that system sucks and makes no sense. The more you are essential the more you deserve money but whatever

[@maherzain434]

"What would make you passionate about working at McDonald's/toilets" under the current system, most people are only working these jobs because they HAVE to, they're the only jobs they can get hence the lack of passion for working at a restaurant for example

[@gravylol2713]

I’m trusting you with this do not throw

[@StragglerTx]

"The last capitalist we hang is the one who sold the rope " Karl Marx

[@bigsmoke7381]

It would be to much work for a socialist to hang someone

[@TheLily97232]

Your quality of editing is great . Good job 👏🏾

[@TheDemoraI]

@1:19 The US is not a capitalist economy. Corporatism is a form of socialism. Lobbying, regulation, and taxation are the socialist levers controlling every single individual in our "capitalist" economy.

[@rondon7145]

I'd like to thank all the people of culture at the very beginning: "Maxism is just a theory..." Chat: "A GAME THEORY!!"

[@totallyordinaryguy7570]

When government does stuff

[@ajrizzo697]

it’s so weird to watch the youtube when I am a casual stream viewer because I almost always see some part of the video but rarely the whole segment

[@lord6617]

A union is a group of workers collectively pooling money to hire a negotiator to represent them against the company, rather than individually pitting themselves against the bosses and their fellow workers to achieve positive results for themselves. People get bent out of shape about paying "Union Dues" to get this is so stupid, it is literally arguing that someone should be working for you for free (union representative).

[@saintbeau2779]

correct. also, consider that a unionized worker earns roughly $1,095 a week, whereas an non-union worker earns $892. it literally pays for itself.

[@charleskummerer]

This is a really bad explanation of Marxism lmao He's doing the Left a disservice with this, surprised no one is pushing back on his weird definition and explanation in the comments

[@saintbeau2779]

elaborate.

[@charleskummerer]

@@saintbeau2779 I'd have to do a 20-30 minute breakdown of why most things he said I have issue with. Infrared (Marxist youtuber) did a good video on it. I don't even dislike Hasanabi like how he does, but he breaks down why Hasan's explanation is just super bad from top to bottom. It sounds smart to people who haven't read any Marx, Lenin, or Engels, but it's just bad

[@jits2q127]

not to forget the million(s) killed in the soviet union

[@cck5707]

This video is actually really educational, ty! (:

[@FinLit4NitWits]

Surplus labor value doesn’t account for the risk/operating expenses of running a business

[@ddstar]

"Of course your not going to work hard".. yeah and when its owned by everyone, nobody works at all.

[@vladimirbathory1125]

Profit incentives can exist under socialism. Worker coops for example are autonomous businesses that exist under a market economy. The Land o lakes butter and Ocean Spray juice companies are worker coops and if all businesses functioned similarly that would be market socialist. I am not a Marxist nor an authoritarian so I might agree on your criticism of other forms of self described socialism.

[@gremlemon4449]

Your explanation actually makes me want to learn more about Marxism, and I think this is the first time I've ever heard it explained in words I can somewhat understand (you talk quite quickly sometimes, but to be fair I play minecraft while watching your videos XD). I'm surprised that I haven't learned this in school, or that I have and it just didn't click in my brain lol quite sad to think about when I'm going into my senior year

[@alexshemwell8320]

It's not an accident that we never learn this in school...

[@buster2134]

Yes bro , learning is so important