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Good Areas with Jarrod Kimber

Good Areas with Jarrod Kimber

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@virathiyam5401
@virathiyam5401 3 жыл бұрын
You know it's pretty rare to have an absolute "Cricket Nerd" channel? That's more trivia, facts, stats and analysis than experts at the post match show. Hats off Mr.Jarrod.
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
There will be ten of them by next week.
@Nicklovesmw2
@Nicklovesmw2 Жыл бұрын
Why do all nerds have to be so ugly
@MKD1101
@MKD1101 3 жыл бұрын
In the day night pink ball tests , both teams were coming on the back of scores of 58 and 36! If anything, it's an improvement.
@shubhamk91
@shubhamk91 3 жыл бұрын
was waiting for your upload after the test ended
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
And here it is
@shishirs2007
@shishirs2007 3 жыл бұрын
They should conduct a One day show match on the same pitch with the red ball just to see if culprit was pitch or the Pink ball ..At least crowd can get a extra day of entertainment...
@tilofobes7451
@tilofobes7451 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, been hammering about the ball issue. Remeber the first pink ball Test in Adelaide, longest inning was 72.1 and then none more than 65. It seemed nobody knew how the ball would behave. India didn't expect a rank turner, did they. One could argue they only selected (and bowled) 2 frontline spinners. Not waht you would do when you expect an indian turner.
@abhinavnair790
@abhinavnair790 3 жыл бұрын
The pink ball definitely behaved a lot differently. Can't see the match being this short with the red ball.
@arunsreenivasan2074
@arunsreenivasan2074 3 жыл бұрын
Jarrod is my favourite journalist of all time now. It’s official. Funny and smart! Why can’t more journalists be like him 😫😫😭😭
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
I had all the others killed.
@guddu612
@guddu612 3 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodKimberYT I wish.😂😂
@siddharthraychaudhuri7250
@siddharthraychaudhuri7250 3 жыл бұрын
Haha! Was waiting for this review from yesterday! So much of noise, trolling, podcast after podcast. Finally Jarrod comes with the Michael Clarke rule and now it's crystal clear. 😂 Basically the pitch and the pink ball were a having a party of their own👀
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
And no batters were invited.
@siddharthraychaudhuri7250
@siddharthraychaudhuri7250 3 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodKimberYT 😂
@abhinav3757
@abhinav3757 3 жыл бұрын
why no wickets fell for India in 2nd innings?
@siddharthraychaudhuri7250
@siddharthraychaudhuri7250 3 жыл бұрын
@@abhinav3757 when you have just 49 to score , people play differently....plus Gill had a few problems. Rohit is in a class of his own.
@mohitwardhan4878
@mohitwardhan4878 3 жыл бұрын
@Satish Sutar Well, he is more of an all rounder than just a bowler. But again, i can see your point. People were criticising Chennai pitch and then, first Rohit and then Ashwin showed that it wasn't bad in any way. It was just challenging like the Ahmedabad one.
@yeswanth_mocharla
@yeswanth_mocharla 3 жыл бұрын
I was hearing and reading different people, different opinions. And always thought it was mix of all those things, a snowball effect, with everything adding on top of that and came crashing. As you mentioned here.
@Vi5hnujan
@Vi5hnujan 3 жыл бұрын
9:55 im vibing to this music lmao
@ma7ur97
@ma7ur97 3 жыл бұрын
Rohit just said the pitch was good to bat I mean how bad you want to troll other batsmen Learn from rohit
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
That was hilarious
@gautamray3991
@gautamray3991 3 жыл бұрын
he batted twice after the sun was down, arguably the best time to bat against spin, if that is somewhat of a factor. yes, you can always bring up his 160 in the Chennai test but I'm talking about his take on the Ahmedabad pitch only
@SushiWoosh
@SushiWoosh 3 жыл бұрын
@@gautamray3991 other players also batted and failed like Gill , pujji , Kohli in first innings tho !
@siddharthraychaudhuri7250
@siddharthraychaudhuri7250 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@punitkulal1996
@punitkulal1996 3 жыл бұрын
@@SushiWoosh gill got out to pace... Kohli inside edged the ball.
@mihirrao10
@mihirrao10 3 жыл бұрын
Well, personally, I think the whole pitch stuff has garnered a lot of false media attention. I think it's pretty obvious what happened. India wanted a pitch like the Chennai one and the curators tried their hardest to replicate it. But one thing they didn't account for was the SG pink ball. Unlike the red ball, it skidded on straight due to the difference in the texture of the outer covering. It didn't seem intentional and, following this quite average display of Test match cricket, the Indian team management would ensure that this doesn't happen again in order to keep Test cricket alive in India.
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
The media being wrong, NEVER
@Kaml8686
@Kaml8686 3 жыл бұрын
Long Live IPL style test match
@toddlingstatesman2104
@toddlingstatesman2104 3 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodKimberYT cheeky!!
@siddharthraychaudhuri7250
@siddharthraychaudhuri7250 3 жыл бұрын
This makes sense.
@prav777
@prav777 3 жыл бұрын
With these kind of cheating tricks, BCCI will fast pace the death of Test Cricket. As it is, not many outside of India pay much attention to the game...India may soon play with itself and then, cheat as much as it wants!!
@anujpethe684
@anujpethe684 3 жыл бұрын
If JOE ROOT gets 5 wickets then you know its a weird pitch
@siddharthraychaudhuri7250
@siddharthraychaudhuri7250 3 жыл бұрын
Okay this may have been a little too extreme. But Joe Root is a good ball. He can turn the ball and has very good cricketing brain. Think how so many times Sachin got vital breakthroughs.
@pkkrish
@pkkrish 3 жыл бұрын
Dude , 4 of the 5 wickets of Joe root were because of the carelessness of the batsmen. They didn't take root seriously since he is a part timer and tried attacking him. If they had applied themselves, he would not have taken these many wickets
@abhiray2748
@abhiray2748 3 жыл бұрын
@@pkkrish also the first 3 wickets were all left handers who could not get to the ball properly, the last 2 just threw their wickets. So nothing special by root just controlled the line, ball did the rest.
@danialshah2957
@danialshah2957 3 жыл бұрын
@@abhiray2748 it was only ashwin and axar who threw their wicket away. But even then the ball turned, that's why they couldn't hit those balls for a boundary
@abhinav3757
@abhinav3757 3 жыл бұрын
@@danialshah2957 Pant's was a classic off-spinner's dismissal, what's that got to do with the pitch?
@amanagnihotri3322
@amanagnihotri3322 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely spot-on assessment. Brilliant.
@xAlexHDx1
@xAlexHDx1 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, keep up the great work. Nice to see Cricket videos on KZbin.
@idreeskanchwala
@idreeskanchwala 3 жыл бұрын
The best explaination ive seen not for or against the pitch/batsman/pink ball, but just wholistically putting all points in perspective. Been a fan of you @Jarrod Kimber from your earlier writings and time on cricinfo, politeinquiries & your documentary "death of a gentlemen".
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, sir
@idreeskanchwala
@idreeskanchwala 3 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodKimberYT I aint no sir... your the real gentleman, look forward to more of your analysis and surely youve got one fan following you
@sangitahermione
@sangitahermione 3 жыл бұрын
What a brilliant insight by Kimber again. 👏
@plns_24
@plns_24 3 жыл бұрын
The sport needs people like you, Harsha Bhogle etc that'd make it easier for the masses to understand the sport as well as the technology and mathematics that's associated with the sport. You people are so good in building a bridge between two completely different seeming things.
@solidcricket
@solidcricket 3 жыл бұрын
Root taking fifer reminded me so much of Michael Clarke 😂
@kevinmenezes8386
@kevinmenezes8386 3 жыл бұрын
I remembered Dean Elgar who got 4-22 in 1st test vs Ind in 2015 in 1st innings
@dr.akashsatapathy2438
@dr.akashsatapathy2438 3 жыл бұрын
This is probably the most interesting cricket channel by all measures. This channel deserves far more subs . I am blown away by the way an argument , a fact or the pictures are represented. Big Fan.
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
cheers
@pramodshankar7141
@pramodshankar7141 3 жыл бұрын
Have been watching your videos lately and all your analysis is really good
@musandlala7991
@musandlala7991 3 жыл бұрын
Really loving this channel!!!!
@solidcricket
@solidcricket 3 жыл бұрын
The pitch was decent no way ut was a great pitch but it was ok... the pitch wasnt anything like from ind vs aus 3rd test 2016 in Ranchi... (thats what i call an awful pitch )
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
I think I mentioned that in my last video, that was a shocker.
@rishabhsingh7826
@rishabhsingh7826 3 жыл бұрын
Not Ranchi guys it was in Pune. Ranchi pitch was slow . Match ended in draw there.
@hridayshah6730
@hridayshah6730 3 жыл бұрын
@@rishabhsingh7826 Ranchi was a terrible pitch, one too batsman friendly, slow and flat
@qtw5142
@qtw5142 3 жыл бұрын
By the looks of it India wants to bring back uncovered pitches...I really like Ashwin and Jadeja but I don't think we'll look back at their records fondly..especially in India. What Kohli said later is also dishonest and brings blind fandom in cricket....really not a good look at all.
@cricketclassics5490
@cricketclassics5490 3 жыл бұрын
@@qtw5142 lol then England legend Anderson is useless by your logic 😂
@sampathkaushik89
@sampathkaushik89 3 жыл бұрын
You investigated this in a Jarrod "thorough" Kimber manner, but also at the speed commensurate with the test match 😂. Following up on the thesis, is there something different about Rohit's technique that makes him less affected by skidding or non-skidding of the ball bowled? Or is he just seeing things in a different frame rate compared to mortals lol?
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
It's a really interesting thing, I didn't take enough notes on how he did better, but he is a player with more time than others. And this seemed like a pitch where you needed some time.
@sampathkaushik89
@sampathkaushik89 3 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodKimberYT So when they say that he "picks the line" early, would that also mean that if the ball skids a fraction faster, he would already be in position? but if the ball skidded and moved laterally wouldn't he look pre-meditated? So, is there a cross-bat v straight bat element there as well?
@mohitwardhan4878
@mohitwardhan4878 3 жыл бұрын
@@sampathkaushik89 I think it also has a lot to do with the fact that Rohit's back foot play is better than other players in the current Indian team. And that's one factor why he was able to negate easily as compared to others. Also on a pitch like this, where spinners get a lot of assistance, one needs to be a bit proactive. And Rohit was doing the same. He was always more attacking than defending. And that positive mindset also helped a lot in gathering good amount of runs at the top of the order.
@Akagra007
@Akagra007 3 жыл бұрын
Also because Rohit played at night when the spinners weren't that effective coz off dew. Moreover, the English did use their seamers a lot longer and Root didn't even bowl at night
@abhiray2748
@abhiray2748 3 жыл бұрын
@@Akagra007 was rohit the only one playing after sunset?
@vikram2760
@vikram2760 3 жыл бұрын
It looked way easier to bat at night than in afternoon. Leach didn't look that threatening at night compared to day. Is it because Sharma and Kohli were batting really well or are d/n tests conditions too random for it to become mainstream with the current technology.
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, we just didn't see many nights.
@Vi5hnujan
@Vi5hnujan 3 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodKimberYT ahahaha
@vadirajkanakagiri5028
@vadirajkanakagiri5028 3 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodKimberYT who knew this was gonna end after just the 'first night'
@iamreallyright
@iamreallyright 3 жыл бұрын
Intrigued by the mystery and confusion surrounding the pitch, I must have read or watched about a dozen reports specifically dealing with the pitch and ball behavior in the 3rd test. Must admit, Jarrod's video is the most analytical and logical so far.
@99dasram
@99dasram 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video with some nice insights again Jarrod. Excellent point made with regards to the DRS. Was wondering why the commentators didn't mention it during commentary. Its played a big role recently in how batsmen approach spin. When you add an 'Out Decision' hungry umpire to go with it, batsmen are forced to play every ball, which makes it harder when the pitch isn't consistent in the way it behaves.
@saurabhkanojia5680
@saurabhkanojia5680 3 жыл бұрын
I think sunny ji pointed out to take the off stump guard after match ended just for this case only
@pranavranjith6314
@pranavranjith6314 3 жыл бұрын
Well researched. Nice video
@Aryan_Sanan
@Aryan_Sanan 3 жыл бұрын
i am impressed, for your hard work in making this graphical quality content
@safaltandon9139
@safaltandon9139 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is seriously underrated
@TheManya123
@TheManya123 3 жыл бұрын
Great graphics & analysis Jarrod, miles ahead of other youtubers👍
@harshdeep27
@harshdeep27 3 жыл бұрын
Good content. Subscribed!
@RakshitVashishta
@RakshitVashishta 3 жыл бұрын
Very well researched 👏
@vng484
@vng484 3 жыл бұрын
Much better analysis then the whole extra innings they show us here before the start and after
@SoumenduKumarGhosh
@SoumenduKumarGhosh 3 жыл бұрын
quite a funny and entertaining way of explaining the pitch
@shankar19961
@shankar19961 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to subscriber count go up, top quality content from this man
@rohitavadhani6995
@rohitavadhani6995 3 жыл бұрын
Well I am glad the match was done in 2 days. The rate at which the footmarks were forming, I was expecting a crater by day 5. 🥲
@jimmy_xi9342
@jimmy_xi9342 3 жыл бұрын
There were craters in the popping crease towards the end of day 1....😅😅😅 The English fast bowlers struggled with their front foot landing in the 3rd session... Such a terrible doctored pitch 2 suit the home team....
@mohitwardhan4878
@mohitwardhan4878 3 жыл бұрын
Well, there were no craters tbh. And i totally differ from the opinion that it was a bad pitch. Certainly was a challenging one but not a bad one in my opinion. A pitch should be called bad only when it's dangerous. And Ahmedabad one wasn't dangerous at any point. Just needed better application from batsmen of both the side to score runs
@aviralsharma7744
@aviralsharma7744 3 жыл бұрын
@@mohitwardhan4878 Well I also don't really accept the fact of pitch being bad but certainly extremely spinning or damaged pitch is a game changer. Well I don't agree by the fact of a dangerous uneven bouncing pitch to be only unfit, I think the definition of unfit needs to be updated by adding over spinning or deteriorating pitch with cracks or too much depressions. I think this can be a factor too and the curator knows better, he should be enquired but I think this was overall a mixture of everything. I mean WHAT IF England batted well against the spin or India batted bad than the performance, If England had won would the world accept this fact or the Indians pointing the pitch would have done it ? It's all about a perspective of oneself to either blame the pitch or blame the performance or have a percentage of both by just accepting what just happened. But definitely ICC needs to venture into the facts of how pitches need to be designed or made. I think the home advantage can not be converted into a monopoly wherever the place is.
@vickychrist329
@vickychrist329 3 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Anderson was once again rested ❓👀
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
All the seamers were rested in this one.
@shreyasshankar4109
@shreyasshankar4109 3 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodKimberYT Haha good one
@monk9948
@monk9948 3 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodKimberYT XD
@harishkiran3663
@harishkiran3663 3 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodKimberYT I was waiting for the magic pink ball spell by the magician under the lights! Damn Root.
@ankitmittaliitr
@ankitmittaliitr 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant as usual👍👍
@shresthmehta4485
@shresthmehta4485 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is goldmine!
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
Lots of nuggets here.
@kaps89
@kaps89 3 жыл бұрын
No one can stop me from hitting subscribe button . This is seriously good stuff
@vignesh9161
@vignesh9161 3 жыл бұрын
How much time and effort u put on making these videos?? It's amazing to watch
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
This one took me about 8 hours from memory.
@richardlobo88
@richardlobo88 3 жыл бұрын
The pink ball theory got me intrigued, I think I understood why there was grass in all the pink ball test except for this one.
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
The balls are poor compared to red, so we either have to change when they are replaced or protect them with some grass.
@richardlobo88
@richardlobo88 3 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodKimberYT any suggestion on how to increase the longevity of the pink ball in terms of material. Etc etc. Cause the whole pink ball scenario got me thinking.
@animeshrajpapneja3269
@animeshrajpapneja3269 3 жыл бұрын
When India collapse in Australia it was fine but now it's an issue really 😂😂😂 straight balls getting wickets.....it was red soil wicket with pink ball what u except....... It bounce man...... With pace......skids on...
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine thinking the Adelaide pitch was bad, even Australia's shoddy batting made runs there.
@sanketkulkarni2390
@sanketkulkarni2390 3 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodKimberYT it was bad pitch no need to defend bcci
@balajiravi8344
@balajiravi8344 3 жыл бұрын
Australia made runs because Indian pace bowlers are no where in a league with Australian Pacers , mention one Indian pacer marking 150 kmph with consistent line and length, same here the England spinners are not in a league with Indian spinners, when you can have bat Vs bat test match, why can't we have ball Vs ball test match
@iceman4020
@iceman4020 3 жыл бұрын
@@balajiravi8344 Bumrah. Checkmate!
@balajiravi8344
@balajiravi8344 3 жыл бұрын
@@iceman4020 I said consistent 150 kmph, not bowling 150 kmph here and there, last Australia tour was an example, that too he had picked up injury before that last test, imagine he is now at the peak of his career
@jitukala
@jitukala 3 жыл бұрын
Now just imagine if Jadeja was playing 😂
@HkFinn83
@HkFinn83 3 жыл бұрын
Never mind that, imagine if England still had Michael Vaughan’s off spin to back up Joe Root!
@arjuncalidas2736
@arjuncalidas2736 3 жыл бұрын
Add to it the history of both teams not having the greatest recent records in pink ball tests, and this being only the 4th pink ball test for England and 3rd for India.. It was not just the surface......
@17x17x
@17x17x 3 жыл бұрын
Great insights.
@krishnanunni2665
@krishnanunni2665 3 жыл бұрын
The question is who's gonna say what should I'll be doing the remaining days of the test. It was like watching the highlights of the match. ICC should implement some kind of rule to slow down these type of matches, like taking more than 9 wickets in a day should be called off as stumps.
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
No. 15 wicket days are magic.
@abhisharma4568
@abhisharma4568 3 жыл бұрын
The comments on the pitch changed relative to England's performance in the match. When England were bowled out, everyone started criticising the pitch rather than appreciating the bowlers' technique and skill. When England bowled out India, every English Commentator was like ' Root used his skills' and then when England were bowled out again, everyone was after the pitch's ass again. I know that this was not amongst the best of the test matches but both teams played on the same pitch and England actually batted first so they don't have any excuses lol.
@Shivsundar143
@Shivsundar143 3 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable analysis man ❤️❤️❤️👏👏👏🤗🤗🤗💐💐💐🙏🙏🙏😍😍😍 You are a Pandith of cricket 🏏 No words! I am speechless 😶
@royaldong3684
@royaldong3684 3 жыл бұрын
If Every Cricket match was played on a Pitch like this with pink ball,What would be the batting averages of the best batsmen in the World?
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
I am not sure, but Axar Patel's average would go into the negative.
@VDSHORTS758
@VDSHORTS758 3 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodKimberYT all the batters averages in the world in teens except Smith and kohli in late twenties and Rohit would have been the don Bradman having average at mid 80's Imagine 20-20 match on this
@raviiee271183
@raviiee271183 3 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodKimberYT haha.
@petruccifanboi
@petruccifanboi 3 жыл бұрын
@@VDSHORTS758 Rohit just got lucky
@abhinavnair790
@abhinavnair790 3 жыл бұрын
@@petruccifanboi naah. He's a very good player of spin and also is relatively much more proactive than the rest. Being proactive definitely helped his case on this surface.
@layyah0905
@layyah0905 3 жыл бұрын
The ball deviated too much in both the frontal and lateral planes (varying bounce and turn),thus causing uncertainty off both front and back foot. Batsmen were wary of lunging forward and getting inside or outside edges and backward defenses were also breached regularly by the straight deliveries. Left handers are fast becoming obsolete amongst specialist batsmen nowadays on turning pitches.
@jugshekhawat5785
@jugshekhawat5785 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jarrod ❤️❤️
@thegodfather6976
@thegodfather6976 3 жыл бұрын
You are the best KZbin has to offer . 👍
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
Top 25 at best.
@padhukool
@padhukool 3 жыл бұрын
Funny, when Warney's bowling ended up with so many variations pitching the ball on the same spot, none of the world's commentators had any complaints. Warne was apparently one of the greatest spinners the world's ever seen then, right?
@rockybiker1289
@rockybiker1289 3 жыл бұрын
Top class editor
@romekhanna
@romekhanna 3 жыл бұрын
Jarrod I was so much disappointed by this match. I can't watch two day "test" matches. This pitch didn't test batsmen's techniques, it was a dance floor for them. I didn't sleep my whole night after that match ended just by sheer disappointment.
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but it was fun
@romekhanna
@romekhanna 3 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodKimberYT The reason being I applied for a holiday from work to watch complete match on the third day. But it got wasted.
@venkatesanrenganathan6309
@venkatesanrenganathan6309 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to add one point here. Both teams do not know how the pink ball is going to behave on this ground before play. Indian bowlers found it hard to grip the ball at night during practice session. Best time to bat was last session as evidenced from match itself. Then as a matter of fact England batting did not even last not more than 1 session in their 2nd innings of this test. Had they batted under lights things could have panned different. Over all pink ball cricket in india is under study and lot of unknown. More matches with different pitch and grounds could be handy.
@BoshSoldierCarp
@BoshSoldierCarp 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this
@jojoadventure6047
@jojoadventure6047 3 жыл бұрын
man the Ashwin press-conference was intence.
@sunlightevidence4359
@sunlightevidence4359 3 жыл бұрын
If you think that was 'intense' then you are going to be in a world of hurt when life throws something your way that is actually intense :D
@jojoadventure6047
@jojoadventure6047 3 жыл бұрын
@@sunlightevidence4359 😂 get a life bro
@jackmcmahon2324
@jackmcmahon2324 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another fantastic video Jarrod. I have a question that you might be able to help with: in general, do players spin the ball less than they used to? I feel like someone like Glen Maxwell could never be considered an all-rounder in years past because of his lack of turn.
@NeillyWheelie
@NeillyWheelie 3 жыл бұрын
What is the background music Jarrod? It is really catchy!! (also great to see where TalkSPORT commentate!!!!)
@joshforde698
@joshforde698 3 жыл бұрын
It seems as though the big turning pitch for a pink ball test was a bad combination, that was my main takeaway.
@asimghatak2155
@asimghatak2155 3 жыл бұрын
Ball definitely had played a role. I also noticed the ball not spinning. Weird test match but something new to talk about.
@sushkoli8034
@sushkoli8034 3 жыл бұрын
Many factors here to consider Pink ball Day nighter Poor batting Ball not spinning
@nishurocks2010
@nishurocks2010 3 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@Sudhirkumar-sk8up
@Sudhirkumar-sk8up 3 жыл бұрын
it was the ball that creates the difference. it wasn't spinning and it was skidding also.
@shishirs2007
@shishirs2007 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds of shane warne saying that he spun one ball vesiously to put doubts in the batsmen ' s mind and used to get wickets on flippers while they where playing for that spin..
@ahmedshakib3883
@ahmedshakib3883 3 жыл бұрын
Someone .... I don't know who but described it really well , he said that the pink balls lacquer made some ball skid straight ,some gripped and turned depending on the landing,it was a real funny situation to be in,part of me liked to see the ball turn and batsmen use their feet and use the depth of the crease another part of hated the fact that the game was over inside 2 days.As always very curious to know how you think and your opinion on the game.Peace.
@Awyang
@Awyang 3 жыл бұрын
If cricket balls were treated as cricketers, their meetings would probably be about how not to get hit by the bat, regardless of how you do that. I guess its more or less just batsmen ranting about piss poor performence on either side.
@satyakamshashwat
@satyakamshashwat 3 жыл бұрын
There were a lot of variables at play... New stadium, day night test, pink ball, pitch with little bit of green and a lot of brown powder... but if you look at the pattern, either you can not touch the ball or the ball will be fast low and straight, the moment batsmen start assuming everything to be low straight and fast were able to survive better... only exception was when Joe Root who beside what other say, found a perfect length which was full enough (not bouncing enough) and providing slight turn (not to miss the bat but take the edge of it) and caused the downfall of India I have seen Anil Kumble and Harbhajan Singh making a lift off for the balls from full length AND cracking the toe by throwing ball half way down the pitch, this was not the worst Indian pitch, not even in worse 10
@XoPlanetI
@XoPlanetI 3 жыл бұрын
I remember watching Jimmy Padams batting in the 1994 series..It was so frustrating. he wouldn't have survived in this DRS age.
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
Nope
@MichaelScott69
@MichaelScott69 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh it did exactly what the home team wanted. Got the win. Can't wait for an outfield as a pitch in England when we tour.
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it did do what the home team wanted. It gave England way too much of a chance. The Chennai wicket was a far better wicket for India.
@MKD1101
@MKD1101 3 жыл бұрын
Today another test ended inside two days between Afghanistan and Zimbabwe.
@shivamchari3574
@shivamchari3574 3 жыл бұрын
Easy on the background music Jarrod
@billargh
@billargh 3 жыл бұрын
good stuff mang channel 4 showed a graphic at some point that had the average degree of turn for each test this series (1st test 3.3, 2nd and 3rd test both 4.9) any idea how they got these numbers if the bcci wont release their data to cricviz?
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
If it was on TV, that would be the BCCI showing it.
@billargh
@billargh 3 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodKimberYT cheers, duck
@cricketrich6893
@cricketrich6893 3 жыл бұрын
The issue I have with the pitch is India clearly have better players of spin, other than root, and better spin bowlers. They dont need to make the pitches 2-3 day pitches in order to win and this pitch was so far in the spin bowlers favour that it gave England a chance to win as every ball was a lottery as jarrod pointed out.
@pkmkb_0
@pkmkb_0 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jarrod, what do you think of pink ball behaviour if it is used in only day test matches ? especially in first session.
@shriramkathirvel7073
@shriramkathirvel7073 3 жыл бұрын
Recent fan here 👍🏾
@abhimanyuagarwal4822
@abhimanyuagarwal4822 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, do you think a similar pitch will be there for the final match, since it's at same venue?
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't think it would be like this.
@nishitvekaria
@nishitvekaria Жыл бұрын
You know I came across this video after 2 years and within that time there was an sa vs aus test match that also lasted just two days. I scrolled through the channel to find a video about that but failed to do so. Maybe my eyes failed to see or maybe there was none. Anyone up for that???
@rishabhthakur7559
@rishabhthakur7559 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, I did hear Laxman, Harbhajan and Akash Chopra talk about the ball and lacquer on the Hindi commentary. I think India needs to add a d/n game to each visiting team's itinerary, because even the last d/n test against Bangladesh in Kolkata was over within 3 days.
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
It was certainly mentioned. But Root confirmed it.
@jaisalsanghvi
@jaisalsanghvi 3 жыл бұрын
The Mad Test The pitch assisted turn but the pink ball tends to skid through. The ball stays low but also bounces high enough to go beyond the hawk eye frame. Rohit thinks the pitch was ok to bat on, Kohli thinks batters didn’t defend well and Root thinks the pink ball was a factor. India choose to go with spinners and England with pacers. The end result is a 2-day Test Match more thrilling than T20s yet considered bad for Test Cricket.
@maiyankasinha832
@maiyankasinha832 3 жыл бұрын
So the real culprit was Pink ball + Motera pitch. I felt the bounce on this pitch was more consistent and low (compared to the Chepauk pitch). Though the Hawkeye @6:37 tells a different story. Had this been a Red ball Test, I think we would have seen 5 more sessions. Whatever be the case, will BCCI prepare such a pitch with Lyon in opposition or against Bangladesh or Sri Lanka. Probably No. Day-Night Tests were to bring more viewership. Last two such Test matches in India have produced less than 5 days of play. This is bad advertisement of Pink ball Test.
@ranjitbijoy
@ranjitbijoy 3 жыл бұрын
Coming down the pitch and using the pads still should work even with DRS thanks to the 3 meter rule . The umpire does not give it out as the batsman is way outside and the DRS is not effective to predict the ball to the required accuracy of the distance to the stump is more than 3 meters .
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
That is a long way to come down, I think it's adding another risk. But would love to see batsmen try.
@abhinavnair790
@abhinavnair790 3 жыл бұрын
We need to discuss the pink ball here. The ball akidding straight on definitely had something to do with it. Can't see the match ending within 3 days, had it been a red ball game.
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
I mean we can't know that, but it's a fascinating thing. I should point out that many of the pink ball games in INdian FC cricket were draws. So it's not as if the pink ball has been doing this in India before.
@abhinavnair790
@abhinavnair790 3 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodKimberYT But for how many of those pink ball fc games did they actually have a dry turner? I think this is one of the first if not the first pink ball game that we got to witness on a dry turner. I think nobody knew how it's going to behave in conditions like these. There were times when the stock ball, even from Ashwin, just didn't spin and skidded straight on. This inconsistency and unpredictability in turn perhaps might have been the real challenge for the batsmen. A rank turner generally will spin consistently. It can have variable bounce, yes, but variations in the degree of turn to the extent that we saw in this game? I don't think that's really possible. This indeed is very fascinating.
@alokesh985
@alokesh985 3 жыл бұрын
When you play on a level 10 pitch, but you're only level 5
@sdroy84agt
@sdroy84agt 3 жыл бұрын
The pitch may be level 8/9 but the ball definitely is level 10.
@wolandox1957
@wolandox1957 3 жыл бұрын
"The Michael Clarke Rule" hahaha
@chasingperfection9375
@chasingperfection9375 3 жыл бұрын
It was definitely a difficult pitch to bat on but imo in no way a 2 day pitch. It was just this perfect storm of the pink ball skidding more than the red ball and not getting softer as the red one does after 25 overs, the batsmen not having enough practice on turning tracks ( there was no Ranji Trophy20-21, so none of the Indian batsmen were prepared either). Most of the times the scoring areas on turning tracks are square of the wicket, where you cut and pull the short ball and sweep the length ball. Whereas in this game the scoring areas should have been extra cover to mid on to the balls pitched short. If you try to play square or your head falls off you will be trapped leg before as kept happening.
@chasingperfection9375
@chasingperfection9375 3 жыл бұрын
@watson returns Pujara, Rahane. Most do when available.
@rohanp56
@rohanp56 3 жыл бұрын
Matty Hayden had used sweep shot to counter Indian spin in 2001
@bendagostino2217
@bendagostino2217 3 жыл бұрын
There was no uneven bounce. Its not like the pitch was breaking apart so much to where it was unplayable. It was just spinning. Why cant we have a spinning pitch? Like this guy said, it was more the pink ball skidding than anything.
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
There was uneven bounce. I tracked it all game. It was worse with the seamers (for all 17 balls they bowled), but there was definitely inconsistence bounce. We can have a spinning pitch. I mean we don't really have a choice, it spins in Asia.
@regalalien
@regalalien 3 жыл бұрын
Hard to find fault with your analysis, Jarrod, but you did miss one point. All said and done, England lost 20 wickets for 193 runs, and India lost 10 wickets for 194 runs. So this was NOT a case of "both teams found it equally difficult." To me it seems to show a big difference in batting and bowling skills. Factor in that England won the toss and that Rohit, Ajinkya, Rishabh and Ashwin were all still trying to score a lot of runs on the morning of the second day instead of playing balls on the merit, and my point becomes clearer. Perhaps if India had batted more patiently and scored around ~250 runs and England had suffered an innings defeat we wouldn't be talking so much about the pitch.
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
No, I skipped the second innings because a chase of 49 is not a proper innings. And I never said both found. it equally difficult, they both found it difficult. India averaged 14.5 per batter in that first innings, and that was with Rohit playing well. I have no problem with the fact India is better, I think they're making that clear.
@shaneclapham1676
@shaneclapham1676 3 жыл бұрын
Extra layer of paint and lacquer on the pink ball made it skid on more than normal.
@krishnateja7728
@krishnateja7728 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t decide what’s more odd, the pitch or the Narendra Modi stadium with Adani End!?
@prav777
@prav777 3 жыл бұрын
The narcissist pig names a stadium after himself.....
@padhukool
@padhukool 3 жыл бұрын
It's called "The Test" for one fuckin' reason. A test of technique, patience, partnerships and character. Not a fuckin' one sided game where the bowlers have to actually keep toiling for 100+ overs waiting for the batting side to declare. We've seen enough of the batsmen dominating bowlers in ODIs and T20s. It's about time the bowlers get to show their game, break some bones, let the balls and not the bat, do the talking!
@raviiee271183
@raviiee271183 3 жыл бұрын
subscribed after watching a different method to analysis..
@marketwhisperer7682
@marketwhisperer7682 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was like a perfect storm with the pitch and the pink ball. This pitch was bad, but I have a feeling that it would have seen better scores than Chennai's on a full day-red ball combo. Makes me also wonder what tests do the ICC conduct on new balls before they are commissioned. Do they have certain measures of - I don't know - friction through the air or off a standardized pitch that need to be met other than the obvious ones like weight and circumference?
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think they look at it that scientifically, which is part of the problem. Yeah, would be really interesting so see what the red ball did here, I think it still would have bounced odd and spun a lot, but the straight ball wouldn't have been kryptonite.
@tejasanand4244
@tejasanand4244 3 жыл бұрын
wonder how this will impact the pitch for wtc final if india reach it
@risxy006
@risxy006 3 жыл бұрын
Wait Australia are eyeing the vacant seat alongside the kiwis.For that,they will bribe the English to win the last game.
@shwetankshekhar5
@shwetankshekhar5 3 жыл бұрын
@watson returns Well for starters it's happening at Lords, so the English might create a grass top pitch and couple that with the Kiwi pace attack..,that is a dangerous proposition for India.
@shikhargovil9579
@shikhargovil9579 3 жыл бұрын
@@shwetankshekhar5 also kiwi batsmen are more equipped to play on grass top surface and swinging conditions. the only adjustment they have to make is the duke ball.
@tejasanand4244
@tejasanand4244 3 жыл бұрын
@watson returns because uk groundsmen now have an incentive to provide a seaming wicket given india provided a turning one
@ddr_drogba777
@ddr_drogba777 3 жыл бұрын
You still didnt tell me where you got that Babar azam has an avg. of more than 200 in Pak!
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know I had to tell you. It is in the video, you have to pay some attention. The dates I looked at are from 11/4/18-11/4/20. Azam played three Tests in that period and averaged 200. stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;host=7;spanmax1=11+apr+2020;spanmin1=11+apr+2018;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting
@ddr_drogba777
@ddr_drogba777 3 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodKimberYT LMAO now thats a stat!
@rishik29
@rishik29 3 жыл бұрын
One of those videos that you don't want to end...
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
That's because you didn't edit it.
@rishik29
@rishik29 3 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodKimberYT I could keep on listening to the well researched facts that you present, seriously.. And I've already watched all videos on your channel, so either pump out the next one faster, or start making hour long videos.. 😅 JK excellent content as always, keep up the great work...
@Mufc00560
@Mufc00560 3 жыл бұрын
The Indians can't say stop blaming the pitch because even the Indian batsmen couldn't bat. Both the teams batted poorly but we just batted worse
@nikkkhilkumar3269
@nikkkhilkumar3269 3 жыл бұрын
India got great spinners. End of discussion
@Mufc00560
@Mufc00560 3 жыл бұрын
@@nikkkhilkumar3269 don't see any of them getting 5 for 8
@jimmy_xi9342
@jimmy_xi9342 3 жыл бұрын
It was a test of batting collapses....the team whose collapse was less worse won the test...
@Mufc00560
@Mufc00560 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimmy_xi9342 India just got more than use before their collapse
@jimmy_xi9342
@jimmy_xi9342 3 жыл бұрын
@@nikkkhilkumar3269 still they need such doctored bunsen burners 2 showcase their skills....such a disgrace😏😏😏
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