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How does Dom Bess get his wickets? How good is Jack Leach? And is Moeen Ali the best spinner in England? I get to all that, using the SCGM Treatment, naturally. And we look at why England can't produce the best spinners. Why read this, anyway? Watch the video.
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[@sharat05071992]

The entire Somerset story is very interesting. If there are no turning tracks at first class level how can one expect the main team to win consistently in Asia!

[@JarrodKimberYT]

No, but they do prepare a lot for these series.

[@sharat05071992]

@@JarrodKimberYT Yes which are expected, maybe more England A tours to Asia to bridge the gap. Skills of using the feet are a huge importance for consistently playing spin. Maybe playing against the Asian teams will help both batters and spinners to gain experience!

[@saptarshipaul1928]

@@JarrodKimberYT The real preparation is playing county cricket at turning Taunton when points are on the line. Match pressure is different.

[@joebloggs6922]

@Wonder Man He's ruled himself out of red ball cricket due to a dodgy shoulder. He's sticking to white ball cricket because less stress on it

[@paulscottrobson]

What annoys me is up until recently spinning pitches were evil but it was okay to produces pitches on which the dobbers like Darren Stevens could be ultra effective. Not knocking Darren at all, but if you put him on Aussie pitches he'd get smashed to kingdom come.

[@x_ployt4086]

When Vaughan said that he cannot believe that Moeen was picked ahead of Bess, I chuckled.

[@abdulmehmood7438]

Could be bias

[@sunlightevidence4359]

Meh, Vaughn is a certified idiot. Best ignored.

[@shounakbanerjee8904]

I don't think Vaughan is fond of Moeen, or Muslims in general

[@rbsingh7906]

@@shounakbanerjee8904 why be hateful or fond of any whole community

[@oscarcrampton2941]

After hearing about the rafiq case I think it may be more than just a cricketing thing

[@shivanvaya3696]

Some excellent analysis - finally not looking at results, and looking into what is actually good cricket!

[@venkatagirikotte4019]

Graeme Swann was a very good spinner that was orthodox and found success in India by sticking to basics.

[@71CMM]

Swann still put a pretty big rip on it, but yes, his accuracy was excellent.

[@JarrodKimberYT]

He was also better than these three, by a considerable distance. Which helps.

[@jonathanjaffa4875]

Graeme Swann had the advantage of being picked too young then discarded by Duncan Fletcher. When he was recalled, he had a lot of county experience at both Northants and Notts, both good spinning counties at the time. Plus he really gave the ball a big rip.

[@MrPotato-]

Bess still has potential being only 23, Graeme swann only found success when he was around 28 (?), so sticking with him could be an option

[@lordyeetus6317]

@@jonathanjaffa4875 I think this is overlooked by people - Swann got big turn regularly, more than any other SENA fingerspinner I have seen. I heard in an interview that he would grip the ball with the second knuckle of his index finger on the seam (as opposed to the first), which gave a much tighter grip and meant he imparted a lot more force on the ball than a traditional offspin grip. And from simply observing his action, I suspect he also had some extra elbow rotation in his action to which added revs - and would also explain his elbow injuries.

[@JamesJones-od2ns]

First video I’ve watched from this channel but this is class

[@JarrodKimberYT]

All downhill from here

[@nc-pf3qm]

This is next level stuff...keep them coming..bloody star nd sonyliv can't even produce a decent post lunch or a post match show...brilliant analysis.

[@ishaanagarwal2220]

England should make a few spin pitches at times, Will help their cricket overall.

[@siddharthraychaudhuri7250]

Absolutely loved it! And to see Jadeja's position in the last plot; just shows how important a player he is for India.

[@raunaqsingh7801]

As someone who loves cricket and statistics, this is my fav youtube channel

[@damau5687]

This is the best cricket related content on yt...glad I found your channel.👍

[@JarrodKimberYT]

Welcome aboard, mate

[@jaisalsanghvi]

Ciderbad, lol. Seconds into the video and I was hooked.

[@sahilagarwal6601]

monty panesar and graeme swann were absolute beasts and dominated even in Indian soils

[@JarrodKimberYT]

Both came from Northants on a wicket that used to spin. I believe.

[@munmunhazarika5247]

@@JarrodKimberYT brother.... We need a discord server.... That to a free one...

[@fcfcfcfc7813]

@Sonu Rocks Panesar was a cracking bowler

[@anm6424]

@Sonu Rocks only in subcontinent but rest everywhere he was treated as dummy bowler

[@peternagy-im4be]

@@anm6424 no he wasn't mate

[@paulpotter4238]

Thanks Jarrod, very interesting. Based on what you said, Stuart Broad and Jofra Archer's ability to repeatedly dismiss David Warner cheaply had a clear benefactor in the 2019 Ashes. They were removing the batsman most likely to cause Jack Leach problems. Warner didn't face a ball of spin in that series, not even at Headingley.

[@JarrodKimberYT]

Ha. I like that idea

[@lewisbunney1615]

5:36 I love how me pointed out ‘Bairstow arse’ just in case someone didn’t realise 😂

[@Gorphoz]

Should have had a "Bairstow Elbow" too

[@achalshah4510]

Wow, I had no idea this channel existed! Amazing content, good Analysis! 👍

[@madgeepar]

This is the exact amount of analysis I want every time there's a question on the importance of spinners. Would love to hear your analysis on the role of seamers on spinning pitch

[@gagandeepsinghahuja7557]

Jarrod Kimber - KZbinr of the year

[@JarrodKimberYT]

Fuck you Jake Paul (seriously have no idea the names of any of the others

[@niranjannair3633]

@@JarrodKimberYT LOL

[@ImanBcheck]

And after all this hard work, there is Virender Sehwag, who doesn't even consider finger spinners as bowlers. Imagine, the guy treats finger spinners as dummy bowlers😂

[@thunderhammer593]

That does not make any sense.....if anything it shows Sehwag's ignorance...

[@rupeshkaushal1878]

dude sehwag would have taken all the spinners in the game for cleaners, sehwag treated spinners like trash, he had no respect for them, honestly spinners hated bowling him and were scared bowling.

[@c.augustedupin8860]

@@rupeshkaushal1878 what about murli??? I heard in one of his interviews that murli really bothered him till about 08'. Only after that he found a way to play him out It would've been interesting how sehwag would've fared against prime warne or shaqlin

[@rupeshkaushal1878]

@@c.augustedupin8860 no man i dont think any spinnee bothered him, may be wen he was new in indian team someone may have but as long as i remember him as far as i can look back he took everyone for cleaners, i remember wen ajantha mendis was new every batsman struggled against him of all teams, sehwag scored 200 in a test match and treated him like school boy, as for warne, warne struggled against indian batters, vvs, laxman, sachin, fab 4 played him very well sehwag would have too.

[@c.augustedupin8860]

@@rupeshkaushal1878 murli???...and I am not talking about any run of the mill bowler but the legendary murli himself , shaqlin troubled India, despite India being reputed to be excellent players of the spin.

[@RaviShankar-et3xc]

Wowwww great content. This is like gold standard among the cricket analysts. Wishing you go great heights in future 👍🏼

[@Prat2023]

Loved watching Graeme Swann bowl. Beautiful action with amazing level of accuracy.

[@nishantjdrums]

Great cricket brings out great writing. Loving the video and text essays, Jarrod!

[@anandhrajtube]

Hahaha...lmao when bairstow arse pointed by a text saying "bairstow arse"😂🤣😂🤣

[@bvm5029]

Surprised at your subs for the quality you give, perhaps with time. Superb stuff... Seen few videos, all were engaging!!!!!👍👍👍

[@deepvanarasi]

Your channel has great content Jarrod! Looking forward to much more :)

[@PETE316]

Great great vid. I know he’s all about limited over but I highly rate Rashid and think he could be a better pick than these three.

[@SamraatMaharjan]

Top class analysis. The way of watching cricket will be different after listening to Jarood.

[@atomrage7415]

Hope your channel blows up(in a good way) This is easily one of the best cricket channels on youtube

[@wheeloflife17]

Moeen Ali is one of the most underrated cricketer ever. Playing him at number 8 is criminal tbh specially in Asia. Love him.

[@TrekkinTales]

An amazingly detailed analysis! Great job!

[@gpaccpt3700]

Guess Bess' luck did run out ! Plus your analysis about his full tosses is bang on - he didn't drop any chance to add more sample data to your analysis when he bowled in the fourth test :D

[@prerak9764]

Remember reading your cutting analysis on espncricinfo website. Glad I found out your channel.

[@lordpochinki2112]

Why does quality content has less views. It's not fair. You deserve more views.

[@adhuri__dastan]

Monty Panesar for me is a perfect example of what a England sppiner should be like, very accurate and within his skills , kind of what Leach does

[@kartir7439]

Swann is best spinner coming from England. John Embuery & Phil Edmonds.

[@JarrodKimberYT]

Laker and Underwood were handy. Verity would have been that good too

[@stackoverflow2522]

the name I can see in this (13:17) chart is and only N Wagner.

[@manojk5679]

OMG Jadeja is the best test bowler ever least economy and avg on that graph, the perfect spot to be in. And is handy with the bat

[@blazerchicken1619]

I am too late to discover such quality content. Brilliant.

[@sunitatripathi396]

Great analysis as always!!

[@piyush213]

Wow, that' the coolest cricket analysis video I have seen ever...subbed 😄

[@JarrodKimberYT]

Check out the other videos as well.

[@yogichaudhary2998]

Excellent video great analysis

[@avinashpatil474]

😎😎😎 Ooooopsss , really appreciating ur content, what a detailing mentioned in video, hats off man. Great animation. U really pointed on wounds of English spinning attack.

[@tanmayjain7876]

I love Jarrod's videos so much❤️

[@jsg0170]

Because they don't try Amar Virdi for some reason, even though he's the leading English spinner in the last few county championship years

[@JarrodKimberYT]

I would not throw him in now if I’m honest. But he’s not far away.

[@MrPotato-]

True but that’s also because Bess and leach haven’t been playing in the county championship for a few years

[@peternagy-im4be]

@@JarrodKimberYT Garry Lyon is over mate. Finished.

[@mrinalkantinath1271]

England misses Monty Panesar badly. He used to bowl at 90+kmph on rank turners which is a nightmare for batsmen

[@lukeallison3713]

And basically a perfect English spinner- economy of less than 2.8

[@shibbarth]

Finally a good cricket youtuber. Thanks a lot for your high quality videos. You should post this on the cricket subreddit for more engagement and views.

[@JarrodKimberYT]

Glad you like it. But I think there’s a few good ones. Reddit will decide what is worthy.

[@bobjeff7641]

there are some good options coming through now with rehan ahmed - the obvious one - and also will jacks ,better known for his batting, but also a constantly improving off spinner

[@Warlock786]

Jarrod...I still remember your article on Pakistan when they won the Champions Trophy in 2016. Best Iv ever read. Did'nt know you had a KZbin channel and will be sure to subscribe.

[@JarrodKimberYT]

Glad to have you here.

[@ayushchittranshi4899]

Great informative video. Kudos

[@doctorjoy2688]

This is the best channel for cricket nerds!!

[@rohitshrivastava4742]

Jarrod, can you make a video on the state of cricket in other countries too? It’s doing amazing in India, I love it. But I don’t want it to become like Baseball , where American teams play amongst themselves and call the winner the “World champion” 😂, because hardly any other country plays baseball at that level.

[@JarrodKimberYT]

Check out my one on South Africa

[@Deepak_2097]

What a fabulous video analysis. Thanku sir

[@shalinibalagopal1292]

Jarrod “visit my channel you cowards” Kimber. I like that.

[@JarrodKimberYT]

Ha, cheers

[@hemantaaryal2606]

you are underrated man I want to be a spinner for England but after seeing this my hopes went down uff

[@binduharikumar2735]

Really good👍👍

[@pavan3040]

Don't forget the wonderful duo of Monty Panesar and Graeme Swann !!!

[@Youdoyouyeah]

England deserve to be put through “dustbowl” after “dustbowl” until they are GROUND to dust JUST for fining Somerset for spinning tracks. RIDICULOUS!

[@therandomyoutubechannel3026]

Your too harsh mate fookin hell 😂

[@bharathj1991]

Foakes was very good. Keeping, though there were errors.

[@yeswanth_mocharla]

And I agree with deadpool 2. 1st one was way superior.

[@viskum1462]

Briliant analysis

[@dataviz3691]

13:07 Look at Ravi Jadeja 🔥

[@lohitdhungana9384]

Great video. Keep uploading 👍👍

[@Shivsundar143]

👏👏👏🙏🙏🙏🤗🤗🤗💐💐💐❤️❤️❤️ what an in-depth analysis with data You are great 👍🏻

[@Damomoz10]

I like the fact that Bess doesnt seem scared at a young age to put a little flight on his off breaks. Too many younger spinners end up darting it in. If I were selecting the side right now I would look at the pitch. If its Trent Bridge you might not even need the spinner. Play Bess. Hes learning and can bat a bit. If its going to be a 5 days test. Go Leach.

[@JarrodKimberYT]

That's one thing England like about him. Not just in his bowling, but in the field, and with the bat.

[@jeremybean-hodges6397]

Australia has exactly the same issue - the pitches do not suit spin. At all. And they have gotten flatter. Since the 1960s with Benaud, we've had very, very few spinners of genuinely good test quality. Lyon, MacGill, Mallett and Warne are obvious - but who else? O'Keefe, Terry Jenner, Bob Holland and Tim May all retired with test averages well into the 30s. Certainly, the cupboard looks pretty bare after Lyon departs, too.

[@sdroy84agt]

Well done Jarrod. Another very good observation about MacGill. All over the internet I hear how MacGill was a better spinner than Warne or even how unlucky MacGill was which makes me roll my eyes. MacGill and Mushtaq Ahmed were leggies with a lot of skill but who bowled the one release ball (boundary ball) almost every over (Tahir was even worse). MacGill averaged 50+ vs both India and SL (the two good teams vs spin; Pak had Younis Khan, Inzi and Md. Yousuf who were terrific vs spin but the rest were bad vs spin) but more importantly whereas Warne went at 3 an over, MacGill went at 3.6 an over vs India against good players of spin. MacGill played on favorable pitches vs teams which played spin badly to have such a good record. He was not as good as most casual fans think he was.

[@lukeallison3713]

Macgill is probably only said to have spun it more than warne because he deliberately tried to turn it big every ball and had less variation. Not to say they weren't equal in that department- but Macgill almost definitely couldnt get more maximum turn than Warne

[@almac9203]

@@lukeallison3713 Warne was a big Turner of the ball in the first part of his career but after surgery on his shoulder he lost the ability to turn the ball as much and he also lost his deadly flipper. He became a more subtle bowler afterwards. McGill was less crafty but was a huge spinner and he had a wrong'n which Warne didn't.

[@lukeallison3713]

@@almac9203 2005 ashes says otherwise. It might have been his body too but he wasn't trying to bowl a wonder ball every ball unlike McGill because the variation worked. When he did, its hard to see anybody turning at as much as Warne

[@almac9203]

@@lukeallison3713 I watched tons of Warne and he didn't turn the ball as much as McGill. He relied on accuracy and subtle variations rather than big turn and his previously devastating flipper. He definitely changed his style after his shoulder problems. I used to be a leggie myself so I know what he was doing and I know what McGill was doing. Warne was my idol growing up and I watched tons of his bowling. Warne was the GOAT but McGill definitely turned it more.

[@bhavyajain4759]

Apart from the statistics, I believe that there are 2 major reasons why he gets so many wickets : 1. Batsmen are complacent 2. His good balls are really good, batsmen don't expect bad balls.

[@JarrodKimberYT]

You lost me at "apart from the statistics"

[@sudarshan7111]

Hard to believe the legendary Jim Laker was an English spinner...

[@NeillyWheelie]

Lol 3:47 Domino Bess

[@shreyassarangi6106]

Deadpool would absolutely be a leggie who smashes it. Also he'd flight the ball up shamelessly and drift it slightly down leg half the time, hoping for the magic ball. And he'd probably get it to work.

[@edenmurphy4295]

Great video.

[@abcrk1]

Cold weather doesnt allow spinner to grip the ball. Swann earned lot of respect from Indian spin Legend Prasanna. I'm surprised why it doesn't produce leg spinner.Your content is very good.

[@JarrodKimberYT]

I have bowled in the heat of Australia and cold of England and I’ve never had a problem gripping the ball in the cold.

[@martinjones5622]

There's a huge lack of English spinners full-stop. Let's look at which spinners are even realistic to pick. I'd say they have to meet the following criteria: 1. 100 or more first-class wickets at under 40 OR 2. 50 or more first-class wickets at under 30 AND 3. Under the age of 36 (to avoid Gareth Batty) That doesn't leave many sensible spinners: - Moeen Ali - Dom Bess - Scott Borthwick (is now a batsman who barely bowls) - Danny Briggs - Liam Dawson (is unavailable for current tour - injured) - Simon Kerrigan (probably still getting counselling for Test-related trauma) - Jack Leach - Matt Parkinson - Adil Rashid (is all but retired from first-class cricket) - Amar Virdi So England have basically taken every sensible spinner with them on this trip to India and Sri Lanka, with the exception of Danny Briggs. There's no quick fix available, unless they were to take a massive gamble on youth with someone like Dan Moriarty

[@JarrodKimberYT]

Yeah, to fix this is a long game, not a short fix. Don't think throwing young kids in will work.

[@amanmemon1045]

Thanks sir great video for finger spinners 👌👌👌

[@yojitkapoor8489]

nathan lyon pitch map :solid state dom bess pitch map: gas state

[@Sas-ri7gw]

Are you going to do any polite enquiries episodes?... its dull without sarcasm and your insights!.. 😄😄

[@JarrodKimberYT]

I don’t work for Cricinfo. So it’s doubtful

[@nealrutgerskid]

I haven't watch the video yet (about to).. but my assumption to this point is that the English pitches like all west/ Australian pitches are suited for pace. Also the social pressure and glamour of a fast bowler heavy weighed against spin which is ironic considering spin bowlers usually win matches and end up with all time high statistics. Also spinners tend to be more patient and strategic bowlers which is a lost quality in the morderna era. Wonder if you agree?

[@JarrodKimberYT]

You have to be patient to be a seamer, there aren't many inaccurate spinners out there.

[@ayoungperson3408]

Slightly controversial opinion! Wouldnt you say Swann in some ways was similar to SCG MacGill? 1) Played all of his cricket at the peak of his career and was disposed when he wasnt needed again 2) English pitches from 2008-2013 were dry pitches that all helped spin and he used those conditions well 3) In the two tours where the pitch wasnt assisting spin Aus 2010 and 2013 he got creamed 4) Played all the tours of the subcontinent in that period and made merry. 5) South African pitches too at the time also assisted spin. Shakib on the previous tour took 11 wickets @20. 6) So basically if you take out all the matches in Swanns career where conditions weren't in his favour he was ordinary too.

[@JarrodKimberYT]

From an age perspective yes. Had he been picked when he was young it wouldn’t have worked probably. But he had to play every test. Even if you say the home wickets were dry, he still knew no matter what he was bowling. SCG never had that.

[@varunverma2513]

Dude Loved the Video!

[@hardikdave7774]

You seem to be making this scribes by yourself. I am right, right Sir Jarrod??? (Btw mind blowing analysis, again)

[@JarrodKimberYT]

I make most of this on my own and then send it off to the company looking after the channel to clean up and make better.

[@hardikdave7774]

@@JarrodKimberYT That's stunning sir... Superb....

[@shikhargovil9579]

it means that dom bess literally kicked everyone's arse off to get wickets. the players did everything they can to get him wickets but he ran out of luck to get exposed, and even sad part is that he is still not able to make mark in county games, whereas Parkinson is ripping the ball like a warne.

[@mwilkins1644]

Lots if left handers here in Aus. Bring him to Brisbane or to WA

[@paulricketts10]

Adil Rashid is only English spinner to have any consistent control over where he lands the ball. But somehow isn't picked or encouraged to play test cricket.

[@Iamlegend91]

I think he has a bad shoulder. Can't bowl 20-25 overs a day.

[@kroome111]

Parallel universe England would be using Simon Harmer having qualified as English, would have been great to see him bowl out there. Don't have that escape route anymore , great analysis on what we do have

[@JarrodKimberYT]

Harmer himself is an outlier from his nation. All very weird

[@JP1234815]

Ray Illingworth was a strong proponent for uncovered pitches. His argument was that batsmen would improve their technique against sharp turn and bounce whereas the bowlers would learn to bowl a good line and length (ball after ball) to exploit the vagaries of the uncovered pitch. I'm inclined to agree with him.

[@JarrodKimberYT]

I don't know if uncovered would help, only because it's a differnt kind of skill to bat on. But, I would ban the roller once play has started.

[@JP1234815]

@@JarrodKimberYT I think uncovered pitches would lead to very quick games - which the county sides would be very unpleased with!! Ray was always quick to point out that it was by being brought up on uncovered wickets which helped him make a 'grinding' 50 against Lillee, Mallett and Inverarity on the 'infamous' Fusarium test at Headingley in 1972.

[@raxitkaria]

There is skills in playing spin but when you give a pothole like pitch no foreign team would be able to compete unless they have 2 of the best spin bstsman and 2 best spin bowlers and England have 0 of them. The last team which won on rank turners was Aus that too with exceptional Smith and Lyon and O'Keefe spells (3/4) with decent support from other players. If you are 2 or less than 4 then you are bound to lose.

[@Killjoy1204]

So Ashwin is best spin batsman as well?

[@andysmith5997]

For the same reason we never used to play ultra skilled footballers in the national team very often , Le Tissier, Hoddle, Gascogne all got well and truly shafted) A deep mistrust of anything unorthodox,intelligent ,unpredictable and difficult to harness. If Shane Warne had been English they have banned him and he’d have become a postman.

[@DG95461]

You have to hope it will improve in the future. Especially now you're seeing leg spin, mystery spin become quite trendy and effective. Hopefully young kids in all countries will grow up wanting to be the next Rashid Khan or Adil Rashid etc. The main thing for english cricket to do is to encourage it. Just because we have green pitches and not dust bowls doesn't mean we cant produce good spinners. We have to get out of that mindset. A Rashid Khan could bowl on a green seamer and still take 5 wickets

[@JarrodKimberYT]

I think that is fair, the pithes play a part, but there are other things you can do too.

[@kunjalssj]

Macgill has a better record than Warne in the test matches they played together, right? Though I'm sure a big chunk of them would have been tailend wickets.

[@nishagovil9207]

McGill was a limited bowler. There was a reason that warne played ahead of McGill when one spinner was required because warne was better on surfaces not spinning much whereas they played McGill only when pitches were turning and they needed two spinners because all McGill did was to spin the ball big. Not clever or accurate like warne.

[@almac9203]

@@nishagovil9207McGill was good. He just happened to play at the exact same time as the great Shane Warne. If he was older or younger he would have been a great player. There just wasn't any room for two spinners on a regular basis.

[@garethjones7677]

Wilfred Rhodes, Hedley Verity, Jim Laker, Tony Lock, Fred Titmus, Derek Underwood, Graeme Swann...

[@JarrodKimberYT]

You’ve basically picked a bunch of uncovered wicket guys, and one very fine modern day spinner.

[@chicklechives]

Hear hear for the Ben Foakes comment

[@harkarandhunna3743]

they do. they have a player on the reserves who should be given a chance. a young spinner called amar virdi

[@JarrodKimberYT]

Virdi is a good bowler. But i doubt he’s ready to come in and star at international level. If he was, I think he’d have played in this series.

[@harkarandhunna3743]

Jarrod Kimber I understand that point but you can’t say you don’t produce good spinners when you have a young spinner in amar Virdi on the reserves. You will never know if he’s good enough unless you give him a chance

[@NeillyWheelie]

Manners: Do you remember a couple of days ago when Jarrod Kimber called Axar Patel a 'sugar-free Ravi Jadeja'? Jarrod: there is no problem with saying you are not as good as one of the best players in the world (which I agree with) Matt Prior: Kimber, I've watched you play cricket and I am astonished by the level of disrespect you give international cricketers [we also hear Gareth Batty laughing in the background] -> However Matt Prior forgets how once, he got out quite cheaply in a game, and in the end it was Gareth Batty and Jarrod who got a partnership and got the team back on track.... Another side note, watch this video to see why Ravi Jadeja is so good.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXK1oYhpg5KjmJI

[@samuelbruning5903]

Interesting stuff-would you say that England would be best playing 4 quicks (Anderson/Broad, Archer, Stone/Wood, Woakes/Curran) and Stokes in non-spinning conditions, and then use Root as the spin option? Or blood in someone young like Virdi?

[@JarrodKimberYT]

I think Bess can develop, and Leach is too good at what he does to discard. Moeen is still a match winning cricketer. I don't think the answer is playing less spinners, I think it's finding a way to develop the spinners you have Virdi/Parkinson and the current lot. I don't think talent is the problem.

[@sdroy84agt]

Jarrod, you missed a very important aspect Swann (and Monty who too was world class though not as good as Swann IMO). Both Swann and Monty grew up playing FC (and 2nd XI) Cricket in Northamptonshire (before Swann left for Nottinghamshire) on pitches that used to turn quite a bit. It's very difficult to develop as a spinner (as you have rightly mentioned) on pitches that don't even turn on 4th day of a FC Game. E.g. How much has Ashton Agar (who plays for WA) developed as a red ball spinner since 2013?

[@JarrodKimberYT]

Yeah it’s a fair point. But I may do a Swann video another time.

[@sdroy84agt]

@@JarrodKimberYT ​ By the way Jarrod, do you know that between 2012 to about 2016-2017 most Indian Ranji Trophy pitches were basically golf courses (like the ones NZ dish out to sub-continent teams and WI when they visit NZ) in the hope that domestic Indian batsmen learnt to play seaming conditions better (the knee-jerk response after losing 4-0 in Aus and in Eng). As a result of it at least four things happened : 1. Young Indian batsmen became very poor players of spin 2. Very few quality spinners emerged. 3. Medium pacers who weren't good enough for International Cricket like Ashok Dinda, Vinay Kumar, Pankaj Singh and Jaydev Unadkat were dominating the Ranji Trophy charts. 4. Most Indian wickets swung for only first session and few swung and seamed throughout. The ones which swung for only 1 session became batting paradises since as a result of grass they did not spin even on 4th day. The ones which seamed and swung throughout (basically those of North India) had FC games getting over in 2-2.5 days. The whole BCCI idea failed completely.

[@wheresyourmama6925]

What do you guys think Josh Hazlewood would be thinking right now about bowling to Cheteshwar Pujara in the nets

[@JarrodKimberYT]

I have no idea

[@saturdayplayer2492]

The wickets are made to suit very average seam bowling. Until the wickets and the whole situation changes then there won't be top spinners. On the other hand spin bowling seems to be far more common in club cricket.

[@rajawate2797]

Plzz make a video on IPL Auction

[@joemannion7191]

I actually think Bess puts quite a lot of energy on the ball and doesn’t just drop it on a length. I feel the likes of Peter Such and spin development in England are quite orthodox in their thinking and you have to spin it as a spinner unlike cricketers like Imad Wasim. In this sense Bess has quite a lot going for him but I think it’ll take time to improve his accuracy and we won’t see him get it just right for the rest of the series. Jeetan Patel is probably the best guy for him to work with for the next couple of years. Is Amar Virdi Still on tour? I don’t know what Virdis pitch map is like but has a nice action and not sure why he’s not in serious contention.

[@JarrodKimberYT]

Bess puts a little action on the ball, but I haven't seen a rev counter, it woul d be nothing like Moeen I would assume. Virdi still on tour.

[@Coke_Cain4160]

Is there a video on India's lack of quality pace bowling all rounders? If not could you please make one

[@JarrodKimberYT]

The world has a lack of them. Hard to point at India.

[@Coke_Cain4160]

@@JarrodKimberYT Could you make a video on that topic, if possible?