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[@peggycheney9802]

I taught in a brand new middle school one year--it opened in an over-crowded condition. I had 42 8th graders in class 5 times a day. And no teacher desk in my class. I am not kidding.

[@garysmith4796]

42 is crazy. No desk is crazy too. Classes of 40+ and no desk or chair for the teacher are trends in disrespectful schools/districts.

[@hezmydaddyo2722]

And they wonder why teachers jump ship.

[@garysmith4796]

@@hezmydaddyo2722 yes yes. I left in the middle of the year to work on mental health, physical health, spiritual health, family bonds, etc. It is amazing what half a year out of that madness does in all these areas (for people who were in a rotten school). No regrets.

[@brendahudson2816]

OMG! I am so sorry.

[@whosiewhatsie]

English was my worst subject for years, but then I got to high school on an IEP and I was put into an English class with 8 students. I am now an English Major

[@Joy21090]

I am grateful to be in a District that takes class sizes seriously. The numbers in our contract are honored.

[@garysmith4796]

20 is a good number (high school). 25 and the teacher and students are being used to save money. 30, ain't nobody learning a damn thing. More and more, teachers are refusing to buy into the madness. We speak up more and more (sometimes by walking out) without internalizing the stress right onto the kidneys.

[@mst675]

I opened a school year with 36 kids on the roster. I asked the principal if it was a mistake. She basically said No, we "over-book" in case some students who registered don't show up. Only 2 didn't. I had 34 kids til October , then 33 (mom was nervous about COVID) until December (then one kid moved away). Finished the year with 32 1st graders. Every day felt like we were all in a holding cell. I did not get to know the kids or parents that well; we didn't come close to doing all the small group instruction they NEEDED (after 2020), and school parties were a logistical nightmare! That's a class number (of littles) I wouldn't wish on my worst teacher enemy!!! 😢

[@garysmith4796]

I had a class of 54 once, assumed it was a mistake and called for the principal (my first year as a teacher ha ha). She just sent me 8 more chairs for the 8 who were sitting on the floor. Problem solved in her mind. WTF

[@mst675]

@@garysmith4796 OMG!! 😲 😱

[@AyahuascaSage]

32 is insane for 1st. Way too many.

[@jodycalabrese8447]

Large class sizes are such a disservice to the students. I have 30 way to big. 24 should be max.

[@rebekahjimenez2808]

It's a disservice to the professor or teacher also. The only population it serves is the administration, who want to pump out numbers.

[@cczsus6513]

30 usually is the default number. What research shows 24 is the optimal number though?

[@Aksel27]

My favorite class was me, my friend, and the professor.

[@ninimeggie4771]

I'm in a district with a 1:14 teacher:student ratio. My class sizes this year range from 5-24. 5 is the smallest I've had and 35 is the largest.

[@dawncolorado2120]

Work in a middle school helping a first year, not even certified yet, teacher with his 7th and 8th graders. He was hired 2 weeks before school started, didn't get to see the curriculum or math texts until 2 days before school started. One 7th grade gen ed class had 39 kids and about 8-9 of them were hardcore bad actors and just generally a pain in the arse. Drew others kids to the dark side for every class. The district didn't deign to hire an aide until March. Said they needed to be sure he could actually use help in classes. Doh!

[@archiecook55]

I actually didn't have any big lecture classes with 100+ people in college. I started by taking most of my gen ed classes in community College where the class sizes were smaller, then in my university since I was mostly taking major-specific courses the biggest classes were probably just a bit bigger than my high school classes with about 30-ish people

[@silver1step]

Especially with lower grades!! They need the extra attention & connection. My first class was an afterschool program with 30 kids; my lead & I would co-teach K & 1st graders. We were supposed to have an assistant (spotty)+ a social worker who checked in on our kids daily, but I barely saw her. The majority of admin barely gave us any back up too. Only the nicest dean that all the kids loved (for a reason!) Ever checked in on us or came when we were overwhelmed. I will say it WAS my most memorable class!! Those kids were a mess but it was wonderful to see them grow into themselves.

[@cczsus6513]

After school ratio different then normal school ratio in my experience. It’s because after school programs might hire high schoolers instead of actual teachers who can watch 30 students

[@silver1step]

@cczsus6513 That's true, but we were a nonprofit with grants invited to come into the school to help raise science scores & help teach life science to the kids. We had agreed with the school on a certain amount of support. They really dropped the ball after the first week.

[@simpwhoisdeadinside3432]

I have a math class that has 15 kids in it (I am not a teacher I am a student) and I love not having a lot of people

[@zb2363]

This is one of the most informative and helpful videos I have seen ever on KZbin. Thank you.

[@carabailey6849]

I once had a Ceramics Class (read: sharp tools) where I had 34 stools and 36 students. 😳

[@shntltylr8758]

That’s wild to me cause I’ve never had a class of less than 40, and my teachers knew every one of us😭 But that could be cause it’s the norm in my country

[@wesleywright6458]

That’s how I felt when I worked in healthcare, I’d be lucky if I had 10-15 patients, and on horrible days I’d have 20+ patients and management would say we had no right to complain. Because they were right with the staffing hours. They’d have 11 cnas and five nurses in the morning plus management counts towards hours even though they don’t do any direct patient care. Evening and night shifts would have half the staff some times less. And we stayed around eighty patients, night shift would have one nurse which legally means that they weren’t allowed to leave the floor.

[@78funnybunny]

Class room size in Jamaica is huge. 36 and up.

[@hezmydaddyo2722]

I was told there’d be 40 in each of 6 periods of art class next year. Middle school, people, middle school. I’m retiring. Good luck finding someone else.

[@MaggMoppArts]

The biggest I've had was 34... with 32 desks. Average is closer to 25-27

[@shnilikmw]

For public school, they most certainly are becoming too large. But in college lol, you just gotta stick it out til the advanced classes and the class numbers dwindle. Don’t even expect to see the majority of anybody in your freshmen classes lmao. Wasnt until Physical chemistry and analytical chemistry for me to see class attendance beginning to shrink. But my college is Pre-med/Pre-Pharm focused so ofc everybody there were in those intro sciences, but my social science and honestly, even the physics friends i had they def did have really small classes early on.

[@PastWitch98]

I actually got my first teaching job being the two three grade classes got over crowded and they were going to split some off into a third class for me. Didn't happen. I was a 'reduction' teacher for part of the day and basically a paraeducator the rest of the time.

[@mindyflow3035]

150 in your college Biology class? I had 500 in my freshman chemistry class. The T/A’s in the help sessions would ask what we didn’t understand as they weren’t even in the classroom enough to know what we were studying. I told them if I knew what I didn’t understand, I wouldn’t be there.

[@carenlettofsky3045]

I had a math education class my Senior year. Professor asked us on Day 1 "Is anyone under 21 yrs of age?" Nobody was. Soooo, we had class at this bar near campus. 3rd floor where is was quiet. We'd sit around the table & prof would give his lecture.

[@firstjesse]

This… I always taught 7 periods (for the extra pay teachers don’t get paid enough) and they were always overloaded. I remember one parent getting upset with me because I didn’t memorize her child’s missing assignments. You have one child and I have over 200… 🙄🙄

[@Wrayster91]

I don't think I was ever in a classroom with less than 33 fellow students

[@snuff2023]

High 30s for students? Thats fckd up

[@bubblesnfluff]

18 or 16 is the best number.

[@bettylougreen6987]

PE equipment is sold in groups of six, doesn’t matter what it is. I’d often get groups of 25 to 29. If you only have 24 pieces of equipment, but 26 students it really stinks. It isn’t like a paper copy, just go run off two more. No I need another tennis racket or basketball.

[@Aima952]

I've had classes of 32 that did okay (if I'd been able to split them into 2 sets of 16 I'd have had a better time of it but they were fab kids who I had in pretty much the same group 3 straight years) and classes of 5 that were painfully difficult... my area only justifies the small classes because students have a right to attend mainstream schools and there is no facility for holding kids back a year or two. In the class of 5 I had kids working across 5 different curriculum: one was literally still working on counting to 20 while another could solve 2-step equations mentally (but couldn't sit still or write anything down independently) - they were all age 13.

[@kathrynkelly454]

Teaching at a private school with 8-12 kids in a class vs teaching at a public school with 50 kids? 😢😢😢

[@LifeAsMegan]

Isn’t this the guy that called his IEP student stupid?

[@knownonsense2015]

Teaching is about babysitting…not learning