What’s at stake for Canada at the NATO summit

[@gregfrie1458]

Our canadians lives that's what is at stake atWEF meeting

[@lynnroney1234]

After my dad’s service in the military my mom had a saying. “We couldn’t fight our way out of a wet paper bag.” Prophetic that we have become truly that pathetic. I feel so ashamed to be a Canadian right now. I never dreamed I would ever say that.

[@user-df9jn1ll9k]

@@lynnroney1234 If all we can do is fight, I would be ashamed to.

[@lynnroney1234]

@@user-df9jn1ll9k Our military equipment is too old to be that effective. We are unable to patrol our own waters in the Arctic because we don’t have submarines (yet ) It’s going to be a big issue because China is seriously looking to ignore the fact that The Northwest Passage is in our National Waters. Soldiers are not paid nearly enough to attract people to join. It’s a shrinking military. What effective contribution are we able to offer NATO when needed? Certainly not at the level of Afghanistan. The world is rightly ticked off with us because we have not increased military funding so as to meet minimum increase of 2%. We said we could probably get there by 2034. By 2034? We’ve never met our obligation. Countries can no longer put things off anymore because this world is dangerous. We could have a great military again. But we need to be operating with modern equipment. The enemy is certainly going to have them. We need a substantial increase in number of military. It’s hard to fight if your army isn’t big enough. Ours is not. The government has ignored keeping our fighting ability what it was during the war and right after. Even in Korea. We had strength there too. My dad’s regiment (Strathconas) had the trust and respect of NATO to be on the front lines of possible invasion from East Germany. Back then tanks were the first line of defence. I have absolutely no doubt that we can be the military we used to be. I have no doubt that we can be a fighting force once again respected by the world. Modern equipment + needed numbers to fight effectively. That’s going to be more expensive than it should be because the government has not done the required “maintenance” to keep us where we were. Our military has been ignored and to our complete detriment. If we had done what we should have done we would have a respected military again. But when there so many members of NATO calling us out in front of the world for not meeting minimum of 2%, I do not hold my head up high for that. We CAN do better than that. We NEED to do better, because it is a very precarious world. We need to be strong and ready to step up. Right now we are anything but.

[@faze0ne844]

whats in stake ? our tax dollars

[@Trackratz-zl9di]

You're right we should be spending more money on gay rights and trans issues .

[@faze0ne844]

@@Trackratz-zl9di actually spending money on WORKERS

[@Trackratz-zl9di]

@@faze0ne844 Gay and trans workers like you ?

[@TheNickelDrummer]

Embarrassment. That’s what’s at stake.

[@kevanbrown8272]

Don't worry, Canada is getting a discount on its military purchases through its Amazon Prime account.😂

[@randyhuke3773]

Our Arctic sovereignty is at stake !!!!!

[@freddiethompson58]

The US piss on Canada Arctic sovereignty, don't you know???

[@joankroll8091]

Arctic Sovereignty will ultimately go to the Country that can bring the MOST Guns to bear. That won't be Canada, not anymore, not EVER.

[@user-df9jn1ll9k]

@@randyhuke3773 like Taiwan.

[@user-ul4ew7vt7h]

Canada has to step up and support its military by spending more to protect our country.

[@chrismiller3650]

Maybe we should stop the money train to the Ukraine and funnel that money into our own military

[@user-df9jn1ll9k]

@user-ul4ew7vt7h we are in a new world. Wars are old school. Talk and negotiations is the new way. Only Nato and it's old men want war and rule based order. I want rules that apply to everyone equally. Not endless war and media bullshit justifying it .The UN is a good organization when power is not abused.

[@RaySqw785]

Nato the milky cow of the US, juicy contracts for US compagnies comming lol

[@SunMoon477]

Who is actually running Canada? 🇨🇦

[@faze0ne844]

WEF

[@Trackratz-zl9di]

CSIS says the communist Chinese.

[@spencerc32]

Why we got a lady who needs clarification on %GDP on defence spending, talking about this crap

[@einarquay]

23 of the 32 members of NATO meet the 2% target for defence spending. Canada spends 1.38% of its GDP. The Delta is $150 billion. Our national healthcare budget is $344 billion. Where will we find the money?

[@trails3597]

@@einarquay the subs will get Canada over 2%. The economy grows. Cdn subs will also be used in the artic. Those several countries below 2% will be buying subs from the Germans too bringing up their NATO contribution. Some are EU counties and some are Asian. Making for good support to AUKUS in the pacific and NATO plus US in the Atlantic. It's a decent Western strategy.

[@timpeterson2738]

100 billion spent on climate change in last 5 years is a good start

[@user-df9jn1ll9k]

Canada should join Brics.

[@ijg4427]

As Canada is not meeting the member fee of 2%, it should not have a vote in decision making

[@DStripeM]

When can we canadians have a real canadian as a prime minister.

[@JosephPerry-cm2us]

There probably going to kick Canada out cause of stupid Trudeau

[@johngawrylash7732]

Will PP pay 2% ? Has anybody asked him ?

[@ianleslie6971]

No one's kicking Canada out.They will wait for sanity to prevail. They won't kick Hungary out and their leader is touring Russia and China and whoever will make him feel more important. Sounds familiar. 😳🤔

[@youtubespectator22]

@@johngawrylash7732irrelevant cause he hasn’t ran the country for 9 years 🤣🤣🤣

[@bobcrane9945]

I understand and share your dislike for Trudeau but while it is his turn to fix this it is not of his making. Our military has been decaying since at least the early 60's. This is through 6 Liberal and 4 COnservative Prime Ministers. This issue is not politicial and relates directly to Canadian attitudes. Making it political fodder for the sole purpose of attacking Trudeau is disrespectful of its level of importance and completely ignores its cause.

[@EveryBeardHasAStory]

Implying any prime minister has ever been good for the people.

[@litmyfir950]

Is this too difficult to understand?? Wake up Canada!! Where is Canadian pride? Does it exist or are we hypocrites along for the ride? If you do not wish to contribute move out with Donald Trump and his ilk!!

[@Trackratz-zl9di]

@@litmyfir950 And what's wrong with Trump's defence posture ?

[@user-df9jn1ll9k]

@litmyfir950 there's more to the world than the USA. Take a look around.

[@sarahsokal]

Canada is a peaceful "small " country in population compared to tge others & the challenge is to provide for a territory that is the SECOND BIGGEST COUNTRY in the 🌎 so $$$ is required too

[@whatdoyouwantfromme1029]

Sarah is right 👍 and Canada should be promoting peace and love not wars 😑🇨🇦

[@CanadianPhinsFan853]

But thanks to Liberlas we have wayyy less than Zero Dollars... like a Trillion less than zero.

[@whatdoyouwantfromme1029]

@@CanadianPhinsFan853 And conservatives 👈👎🏻

[@hendihorlings2341]

​@whatdoyouwantfromme1029 as lovely as your suggestion is , other countries don't put flowers in their hair and dance around. We need a strong military of our own. It's great to have the US next door to come to our aid , but they have their own problems.

[@user-df9jn1ll9k]

@sarahsokal we need to stop listening to the meda and their what it's, maybes ,if and and but and make our own decisions. Not what someone else who think they know better.

[@INHUMANENATION]

Why would Canada and Finland want to break up the ice in the north? Wouldn't that be bad for the environment? Breaking up ice creates more surface area. More surface area can then interact with the warmer environment. C'mon man, the writers the past few seasons have been so ass.

[@miked7666]

Canada needs to get rid of Trudeau and Nato

[@thepegger8422]

What's at stake? Well not the Canadian reputation, jt's already flushed that down the toilet.

[@INHUMANENATION]

Take up space Canadians. Be the voice of reason until everyone is laugnung at this charade.

[@neil168]

His description of NORAD is very off.

[@trails3597]

Lots of Russian trolls out and about.

[@EveryBeardHasAStory]

Found the CIA pet. Real Canadians are going this summer homeless, or living in homes smaller than garages with no AC or money to enjoy any facet of life. "Russian trolls", if only Russia would conquer Canada we'd have an actual nation to be proud of.

[@deftone330]

Weak bait. Valid criticism isn't Russian propoganda, paying 2% is a condition of NATO that Canada always never pays. How we are still a part of NATO is a testament to how much of a gongshow NATO is

[@freddiethompson58]

And for whom are you trolling bud???

[@ZenCorvus]

So boring these accounts calling and whining everyone's a Russian troll. Grow up. Not everyone agrees with you.

[@trails3597]

​@@ZenCorvus You are right character attacks are boring. Where is your beef?

[@lattakia3812]

Trudeau out. Trump 2024

[@kevanbrown8272]

If Trump wins, Canada will experience a Ukraine experience as soon as the US Military finds the bridges northbound.

[@ryanbarton9388]

Sorry Nato but Canada is too busy fighting climate change.

[@trails3597]

The submarine strategy should shut up Trump.

[@Trackratz-zl9di]

Subs with 60 yr old technology will not deter Putin from taking the artic .

[@trails3597]

@@Trackratz-zl9di Wrong, these will be new subs w the latest.

[@Trackratz-zl9di]

@@trails3597 You seem to be way out of the loop You might want to look at what Jane's Defence has to say .

[@faze0ne844]

yeah .. that's a great idea , with our woke trans generals and our crappy military gear ! , china and putin could wipe and take our country in weeks ! great intelligence you have

[@Trackratz-zl9di]

@@trails3597 Let me guess you have never heard of Jane's Defence

[@mikeb5664]

I'm sure my Conservative friends will vote to increase our taxes to pay for this.

[@jonk5669]

Let's be real, Mike, you have no friends.

[@anguscampbell1533]

@@jonk5669 Just exactly how do you think Canada is going to pay for more defense spending?

[@jonk5669]

@@anguscampbell1533 With diversity hires and economic migrants. Possibly Trudeau's hobo encampments if needed.

[@jonk5669]

@@anguscampbell1533 The military budget can balance itself.

[@canadiansfor2A]

The liberals have already increased our taxes and made new ones... You can't blame the conservatives when justin and the liberals have been in power for 9 plus years!!

[@user-df9jn1ll9k]

Canada should exit NATO it's time is over.

[@bobcrane9945]

You have no idea about what you are speaking of. Are you of one of the youger generations that can't relate to history?

[@Trackratz-zl9di]

I'm with you let's partner up with countries more like us Russia and China .

[@freddiethompson58]

@@Trackratz-zl9di At last somebody with the intelligent idea!

[@Trackratz-zl9di]

@@freddiethompson58 Well CSIS report's the Chinese already have a branch office set up in our government so why not .

[@INHUMANENATION]

Canada needs to start asking Canadians how they feel. I'm not okay with our membership in NATO. I do not think it's ethical that we are forced to finance clandestine conflicts by night as opposed to declared wars by day. God isn't on our side nor do we have the moral high ground here.

[@bobcrane9945]

May I ask you what you feel is unethical, NATO or ourr membership in it? Why do you feel that way?

[@crhu319]

#EndNATO #NoNATO #CanadaOutOfNATO

[@Liveordiechapter]

$500M more to NATO while our nation crumbles…pls explain

[@Trackratz-zl9di]

I'm with you let's spend it on gay rights and trans issues .

[@user-df9jn1ll9k]

Pay protection money to the USA is the truth. For what?

[@kevanbrown8272]

For not being a defender in WW3. WW2 was bad enough, but you probably were too young to remember.

[@babajibear7796]

Regarding Ukraine, they have lost the war, which any fool could see years ago. Make Peace now, and save Ukrainian lives.

[@user-df9jn1ll9k]

Do you have to buy from nato only?

[@soleikam6662]

pathetic analysis

[@user-df9jn1ll9k]

Just say no to NATO.

[@user-df9jn1ll9k]

To the homeless.

[@user-df9jn1ll9k]

The USA wants our artic.

[@kevanbrown8272]

So does Russia.

[@Trackratz-zl9di]

You seem to be confused as it is the Russians that want it and are actively taking as we speak .

[@user-df9jn1ll9k]

@kevanbrown8272 So does China and Europe, that's how business is done in Brics. Not the USA saying you will sell to us and our friends in NATO which is only 13% of global population. Major limited markets.

[@Trackratz-zl9di]

@@user-df9jn1ll9k You do have a point maybe we should throw in with China .CSIS says they already have a branch office in our government.

[@gameratheinvincible7662]

Nobody cares about Canada…seriously

[@user-df9jn1ll9k]

Bye-bye NATO

[@kevintaylor2525]

empire wars and austerity?

[@user-df9jn1ll9k]

Turkey joined Brics and they are a Nato member .Canada should join Brics too.

[@user-df9jn1ll9k]

Who starts wars? NATO

[@user-df9jn1ll9k]

We need to break free from the USA.

[@brettthomas5605]

How do you propose to do that when they're right next door geographically! Our biggest trading partner! There economy is 10 times larger than Canada. Also we don't have any military to defend ourselves anymore!

[@user-df9jn1ll9k]

@@brettthomas5605 China went from the bottom to the top. Why can't we? What's stopping us ? People say we can't the USA. Let's prove them wrong and stand free and tall. Learn to talk not dictate. Stop rules based order. Be fair to all Canadaians.and the list goes on.Develop our own country for our good not someone else.

[@Trackratz-zl9di]

Canada has to align with one of the big 3 America Russia or China pick one .

[@brettthomas5605]

@@user-df9jn1ll9k from this I take it you want us to be like Cuba! Independent and in poverty! Everybody's poor except for the elite running the country! I don't think most Canadians would agree with that plan.

[@Dam-a-fence]

Your title is broken. What's at stake for Canada at the NATO summit would list "what is at stake", it would not ask why the people in charge are acting out of fear and little else. Look, I fear nukes, acting like I do is dumb, because I also fear asteroids. Can I, a lowly minimum wage earner, launch a nuke, or stop a launched nuke or stop an asteroid? No, I cannot. So acting out that fear is a waste of time. The pragmatism does not exist. Perhaps those who think money can buy everything see things differently, that would explain why they think seeding fear of Trump is a good idea(it's not). But your title is broken. If you want to defeat the Orange Benito, it is quite easy, don't give him room to breath. Talk about everything else.

[@CanadianPhinsFan853]

Cope Harder

[@Trackratz-zl9di]

I can see why you get minimum wage .

[@user-df9jn1ll9k]

Nato is only 13% of global population.

[@Killllr0y]

Stop spamming

[@user-df9jn1ll9k]

@@Killllr0y what are you talking about, canned meat or the silent majority thinking out loud?

[@user-df9jn1ll9k]

We are not willing. That's USA rederick.

[@user-df9jn1ll9k]

Why?

[@user-df9jn1ll9k]

Canada does not report to the USA.

[@Trackratz-zl9di]

You're right according to CSIS we report to the Chinese

[@user-df9jn1ll9k]

3rd largest military