What's BETTER... a Sub Contractor or a W-2 Employee?

[@juanrivas494]

Jose should start his own company.

[@dieselmex1808]

Which Jose

[@siliconvalleylife2.048]

Obviously there's a reason Jose doesn't start his own business. Otherwise he would have done it. Jose won't be able to sell the jobs Tigren sells. Sales is a high skill, few have it, which is why most small contractors stay small. Tigren has all the connections : building developers, General Contractors building homes, Architects referrals, that T built up over time. Jose has none of that. Jose will make more money sticking with Tigren. Jose would take a major pay cut going out on his own for the first few years.

[@ivanzepeda7713]

​@@siliconvalleylife2.048 experience and knowledge of the job and being to explain the job its self will sell better than any sales man I know that first hand if jose goes on his own this clown would go broke and he wouldn't have a clue what to do on the jobsite

[@siliconvalleylife2.048]

@@ivanzepeda7713 I hear you, but... Tigren plays dumb so we chumps post our criticism. Don't underestimate Tigren. You will lose that bet.

[@ivanzepeda7713]

@@siliconvalleylife2.048 stop hearing him out then

[@alcapony732]

Some of my guys are 1099 workers, I teach them how to invest an offset their tax liability. They also have the option to make more money as a full time employee. I have been with the same guys for quite some time now and I’m always on the job with them, we get it done faster and everyone makes more money

[@latestart352]

I run a irrigation company in Florida. I appreciate your words. Ive learned Alot ao much more to learn

[@k20909]

The contract issue definitely blows my mind i can’t believe companies don’t always do it I’m just starting my electrical company and I do contracts for everything no matter how small it is I do it

[@sandt9452]

Tigran, very informative tips to run a clean business, there is a reason why you are very successful. Sugestión, can you share a video of how is for a landscaper to work under 95-105 degrees of heat, tips for the youngsters.

[@jeffshackleford3152]

Long sleeves, floppy hat w/ neck guard, a billion gallons of water, take breaks when you need to, if you feel dizzy stop working.

[@alex042687]

I see it differently. Any "business" that 1099s their workers is shady. I would never work for one. So big props to T for paying his guys plus OT when required, pto, vacation, guarantees hours.

[@tavv2775]

a good subcontractor like me prioritizes timelines

[@Skyhawk656]

Yep! My first question on a project is "when do you need it done by"

[@LandscapeMaster33]

*Tigrans the man. He's still learning the jam. But knows whats up lol.*

[@gamking7987]

You forgot about how sometimes the subcontractor can be better than the company. Once, while I was working for a company on a patio project, a subcontractor on-site provided correct directions when the company failed to do so. Together, we solved the issue. However, when the boss arrived, he was furious about the potential loss of money and showed little concern for doing what was right. Taking responsibility, I informed him that the mistake was mine, which ultimately cost me a week's salary. Nevertheless, I decided to quit on the spot. If you're a homeowner, I strongly recommend hiring someone you can trust, as many companies prioritize profit over quality work and integrity. Remember, if you still care for humanity, always pursue what is the right thing to do, because it will eventually pay off."

[@pneuma6421]

This is why commercial beats residential every day of the week if you're a normal worker

[@EvRyDayCarry]

W2 employee Only want to work 8 hrs and take multiple breaks , A Sub will work 8+ Hrs to get the job done

[@siliconvalleylife2.048]

I don't use subs, unless absolutely necessary (plumbers-gas & electricians). If I need a sub I introduce them to the client and have the sub contract with the client. If the client insists it goes through my company, that's a 40% markup. Who ever pulls the building permit is liable.

[@TheBUGZNTA]

Yup I do it the same way. I used to try and sub people out but 9/10 its not worth it. At most ill give the client a phone number and tell them its between them and the other contractor.

[@Youngem_818]

Framing is just underestimated but why not do it your self ? 😂

[@walterortega6370]

Awesome keep up the good work. Helps a lot of people understand 👷‍♂️💵💵💵💵💵

[@bfaai]

where do you find contractors for your service business?

[@brianvargas5432]

A sub works harder than a w2 .

[@jeffshackleford3152]

Not really, it depends on how the compensation is structured.

[@willdamian1066]

T what kind of shirt do you have on? I’m placing a bulk order for the business I like the look of the white shirts

[@Ziptietechnician]

Id take either or at this point. I cant keep help longer than a couple days. These kids cant and dont want to work hard.

[@danielkofman4592]

I got myself a sub. Damn good sandwich 😜

[@robbensalyers3318]

You made a choice to use a Sub; own it. Do you and or your Subs use prelien notices?

[@jeranueldelgado3053]

Do you do overtime for your guys?

[@christophervela5447]

Ey man My gf and I have watched your videos for a while now and really didn't ever think about contacting you. But some really stressful stuff has happened to our new home. Warranty is giving us some really horrible patch job option . We remembered you're a really fair and honest guy . Please help us with any opinion or advice 🙏 Desperate Here from Texas I hope you see this Thanks

[@siliconvalleylife2.048]

Different building code laws and business laws in Texas vs California. Also landscaping is a C27 License in California, vs any work done on a house or in a house isn't covered by a C27 landscaping license. You'll want to look into your states contracting and consumer protection laws. Which will be different than California laws. Perhaps ask a contractor in Texas.

[@noname-zi9xm]

​@@siliconvalleylife2.048even tho I wasn't the one who asked thanks for the info

[@joedirt7553]

A sub! However, if the Sub does a bad job on a outdoor covered patio. It’s on you. The sub you don’t need to pay workers compensation. If the business gets bigger and have a ton of jobs, then I would hire someone. The sub can also have too many jobs.

[@benjaminhershberger4650]

Californium you can’t trust anyone that is why you need contract

[@joesubi]

What if you find good subs just like you found good workers 🤔

[@louiee2090]

Hi Tee, I’m reaching out to you, to see if you can help me out with the contract that you use. My best, Louie Vipools

[@jhernandez5977]

Hi T, can you please hook up the contract information

[@edgarv1405]

I’m surprised you guys only work 40hrs. Typically see construction people work 50+.

[@siliconvalleylife2.048]

Overtime in California is anything over 40 hours a week, then it's time and a half. Typically for residential construction you want to only work 8 hours not only to stay in budget for your business, but also for your clients family and the neighborhood your working in. The majority of residential contractors work 8-5. 50 hours a week is common for commercial work, rare for residential work.

[@rodarana2012]

Nice!

[@ИгорьПп-в8з]

hey how do I get info in contracts I'm a GC in San Diego, I'm getting some decent jobs but I'm barely using contracts only if the client requires it. I treat m estimate and the conditions on there as a contract. I do use contracts, again only when the client asks for it. am I screwing muself?

[@siliconvalleylife2.048]

Your not a GC in San Diego. If you were you would know that contracts are required by law in the state of California.

[@ИгорьПп-в8з]

@@siliconvalleylife2.048 yes I am. Don’t talk out of pocket you don’t know my business situation. I looked at the contract template he provided it’s nothing I haven’t used before. Nothing special. I do use contracts but on allot of my remodels I don’t. I have a contract always ready to e sign on standby it’s not that hard. Rocket lawyer is great app for that.

[@siliconvalleylife2.048]

@@ИгорьПп-в8з my apologies. I don't lift a finger without a contract.

[@ИгорьПп-в8з]

@@siliconvalleylife2.048 no need to apologize Sr. Blessings in your business

[@Apeezy-u8x]

Let me know if you need help with anything! I’m a landscape contractor here in San Diego and can help you if u have any questions

[@JamesofJesus]

subs ruin business here. try to take too much and always compromise. i had to do the same when they pushed.

[@avo9029]

im a framing contractor brotha, can i see your contract

[@latestart352]

Please put me in with the program

[@joseluisartiaga1874]

Thanks broo now i know why i have a 1099 on my returns an whos doing the frouad.!

[@operationhotshotinc.6887]

Why?

[@PeezyReacts]

hook me up with the contracts program please my guy

[@jeremythompson0306]

Great vibe tho

[@romel6502]

Dang I live near you would be cool to meet you !!

[@Landskatesea]

T, I’ve been reaching out 6:53 (contracts) !!! Can you still do a hook up! I don’t have the money at the moment to do GOAT GANG. I Have 2 Girls a wife, Bills, Bills, Bills… you know ! I am the only one working due to expenses of child care. But I’m doing my best to survive. I save then something comes up takes away from my small (under the table) business I want/ Need to license& Insure. Need guidance… sky’s the limit ! Keep scaping T!

[@TigranGertz]

The contracts program is $200 alone, if you join goat gang I give you the program for free, that is the hook up my friend

[@Landskatesea]

Hi how are you T, my name is Kyle. I’ve been in landscape maintenance for the past 7 years as a crew leader .I just switched companies 8 months ago as landscape foreman and now I read design plans and do landscape installs. All we install is trees,shrubs,Boulders,rock,stepping stones,flowers, Mulch and turf. I have a love/Passion for this work. I currently live in South West Florida. You have been posting KZbin shorts saying to message your instagram for a free video to learn. I do not have access to instagram. Is there any way on this planet you could help me jump start my own business with this simple video please I believe it will change my life 🎉. This is my (3rd) attempt and many more to contact you personally through KZbin! Keep on scaping T !!!

[@wickedleeloopy2115]

You're not paying a Subby $1000 it's more like $2000 😮 that's why you prefer wage slaves. They are considerably cheaper labour

[@reubs91]

Tigran is the perfect example of a narcissist.

[@buildingbengston]

🔥

[@DavidGomez-sd4qq]

🐐

[@skiillzn]

as a employee definitely W-2 only go sub if u got a LLC so u don’t pay uncle sam

[@stevemill8959]

Bro what? You still have to pay taxes if you own an LLC

[@noname-zi9xm]

Lmao bro 😂😂😂 if only I could get an LLC and I'd be tax free I'd already be signed up

[@Tacos888]

Well. California hates 1099 lol

[@Dredugz]

Horrible explanation!

[@dariohabijanec4511]

Hey! New subscriber here! I run a small landscaping company here in the UK. I'm really struggling to find people to work for me. You did inspire me to rent a unit to store all of my tools. £130 a month, 24 hours 7 days access with toilet and cctv, a huge unit. I'm about to buy my first van and a large rotavator! I'm proud but struggling to find people...any help or advice?

[@siliconvalleylife2.048]

It all comes down to money, you have to offer enough to attract people towards your business.

[@dariohabijanec4511]

@Silicon Valley Life 2.0 I have 4 retirement homes that I look after and 18 private clients. I'm looking to bring someone in to look after them for me at £15 an hour while I concentrate on building up my new lawns and lawn restoration company. £15 per hour to someone who is half decent and new is good, training, opportunities to get involved in bigger projects and a growing waiting list. I haven't had a single applicant

[@siliconvalleylife2.048]

Then you have to raise what you offer. Do this. Figure out how much rent costs for your workers, how much is a monthly food budget, automobile and insurance, medical insurance- basic living costs and add 20%. That's how much you have to pay. Here in Silicon Valley, San Jose California minimum wage is $15.00 per.hour. yet basic living costs commands $25.00 an hour. For us in the landscaping industry we have to pay $25.00 an hour to attract anyone willing to do this grunt work in the modern high tech age. Or get yourself a dumb girlfriend and have her work for you.

[@siliconvalleylife2.048]

@@dariohabijanec4511 $15 pounds is like $18.75 an hour here. No one, and I mean no one will work for less than $20 an hour here... Your pay is too low. Run an experiment, you don't have to actually hire anyone at first. Run ad's slowly raising how much you offer until applicants start calling. You get what you pay for. Right now your getting nothing because your paying nothing.

[@dariohabijanec4511]

@Silicon Valley Life 2.0 well I have an amazing wife who isn't dumb haha! I'm going to have to have look at it. I've grown over the last 2 years. Each level I get to, I try and maximise it to the point where I can no option but to move up or stay as I am. I want growth so I take it to the next level. I'm just stuck trying to move up another

[@heostevelady]

Not even trying to hate but u always say u pay a livable wage. These guys live in the bay u only work 40 hrs ? At 35 bucks an hr. Thats not a livable wage. Your ridding around in g wagons these guys are sharing a car. I make 165 to 185 k in ca and its not enough at times

[@heostevelady]

@@theone8978 ive had a lot of surgeries the past 2 cost a lot of money but im the sole provider of 4. My mortgage is 4600 plus 2 car payments insurances phones gas my groceries are almost 2 k a month. Im not hurting but what im saying is these guys are only getting 40 hrs at 35 bucks tops. I doubt there making 170k a yr and san jose is a little more pricey then where i live. These guys arent union so if they want medical or a retirement then theyre barley taking home anything

[@rigobertoespinoza1685]

​@@heosteveladywait how do you even make it with 170k a year with 4500 mortgage must be a million dollar home. And why do you have 2 car payments? I also live in CA and me and my wife make about 300k a year barely making it 😅 no car payments.

[@heostevelady]

@@rigobertoespinoza1685 i guess u didnt read that im the sole provider of 4? So that means i have a wife and kids. 2 cars because my wife needs a car im not home much. I work 14 hr days. House little under 600 k. My point of all this is san jose is more expensive then where i live but i live in a pretty expensive area. I doubt this guy is paying them a living wage like he says

[@rigobertoespinoza1685]

I see idk im watching the video cause im looking to scale my small business and honestly you cant expect to make as much as the boss. If you have no clue what the cost of running a business is. Commerical insurance is no joke.

[@heostevelady]

@@rigobertoespinoza1685 and i totally understand that too. I opening a trade school in march of next yr. It takes money to make money i just hope he rakes care of them

[@silentescape818xsfvla8]

Yo momma tigran

[@BobSmith-qn8gx]

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