What’s Better? Fire Alarm Call Points vs Pull Stations | A short analysis

[@LEWISANXN]

Personally I prefer call points for a few reasons: People are less likely to tamper with call points or press them when its not a real emergency because theyre more 'intimidating' meaning there are less activations by people either purposely misusing safety equipment or treating it as a universal "i need help" button. Secondly, break glass callpoints (although still in circulation) are pretty much mostly phased out at least in the UK, however those that still exist are relatively easy to reset as buildings with them installed are required to carry replacement glass slides as its an offense to have call points "out of service". Thirdly, it is immediately apparent which call point has been activated at a glance. On newer models the button will either twist to the side or drop down revealing yellow and black hazard strips on the button itself. For break glass call points, either the glass is quite obviously broken or the glass is broken and a yellow activation strip will be displayed. (lots of call points also feature a red LED to show it has been activated) Also, to address the point on accidental actvation, the vast majority of callpoints are fitted with a protective cover you must lift to access the button, in some cases this cover will activate a security alarm on the unit to draw attention to the person attempting to activate the alarm. Hope this helps

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

Good info

[@BYEPEOPLES]

its not an offence as 100% of call points have to come with a piece of plastic by law that can't be broken that says not in service even the reseetables such as the Apollo intelligent map an have that peice of plastic in and all break glass ones come with it installed they have to its the law

[@Neptunesalad12]

Good info thanks

[@JBF-GST-Tanda]

For people with physical difficulties, pull stations are sometimes totally impossible to operate. However a call point can be easily activated by smashing it hard with something like a stick

[@alphawolffurry-t8r]

ur genius

[@FireRescue80]

Pull stations are better but the one thing I'd add is all pull stations should have a little fire logo. Just so people who are unfamiliar with them should know what they are.

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

Agree

[@NewEnglandAviaton987]

@@FireAlarmDude5967same

[@Neptunesalad12]

I agree with u and make them bilingual as well

[@BC_OPERATOR]

​@@Neptunesalad12they did micom fire pull stations are french and english

[@Nicmrict879]

Some time manual call point can resettable, just change the glass install emergency push plastic

[@Comens1997]

Both. The ones have break rod such as Manuel pull Station. If it’s not the same, they don’t have a breaker rod unless if it’s conventional, addressable, or intelligent it with a brake rod that are manual pull Station all alarms that are call points manual PULL stations in case of fire elevators are out of surveys, but they will have a glass rod at the 270 SPO

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

?? Yes, some pulls have break rods

[@21volts_gaming_official]

New zealand call points are pretty decent in my opinion because unlike other call points where you can bump into them accidentally, with the semi-new call points in new zealand bumping into them just causes the snap-glaze to break. The button (some models have a switch) is actually separate from the snap-glaze and sits a cupule inches behind it. The snap-glaze is also plastic and can even be reset and reused if you snap the 2 pieces back together. Pretty genius i think.

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

I have seen those. Basically a plastic frame with a switch inside that you push after pressing the glass in. Suppose it is better than other call point designs

[@dutchwolf2675]

In Europe, Some call points (usually made by Esser by Honeywell and Bosch) have a bigger glass piece (than the KAC call point you demonstrated) with a button behind the glass than on top of it. And these call points don't have to go out of order or the glass getting replaced after they get pressed, but people can tamper with the device. I have seen a lot of glass missing in these call points. I don't really have an opinion because I have never seen a pull station in real life.

[@ryguy2006]

Japanese-styled call points (I say that since Taiwan uses them as well) are, in my opinion, well superior than their European relatives. 1. The opening to the push board is small and circular, so it is hard to accidentally activate it. 2. It is accompanied by a red light that provides rapid identification of the location and status of such a location (Bousai Guy has some videos about this.) 3. They are placed conservatively, alike to that of pull stations. 4. There are an abundance of emergency telephone locations in public spaces and in tunnels, sometimes with (independent) CCTV monitoring. 5. Most call points are reset by lifting a flap, then inserting and rotating a tool anti-clockwise with minimal effort. This is as far as I know, and this doesn't include any sort of device alike to that of Safety Technology International's "Stopper" series.

[@cemops8660]

well newer designed call points have red lights too, and European law states that you must not be able to leave a building without walking past at least one call point, and majority of fire alarms auto dial the emergency services, and newer designed call points also just reset by turning a key

[@allspice8769]

also consider call points are less tempting for pranksters, although I don't think that's a huge factor in considering which is better

[@FarmYardGaming]

Niche channel about a very specific object. Subscribed.

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

Appreciate it

[@edcola6671]

These days most call points have multi-use elements in them where when pressed, a yellow bar (sometimes with black stripes) becomes visible and can be pushed back up with the plastic keys as well as plastic shields mounted on the front to stop people accidentally pressing them.

[@Jakeso]

At least in the UK's case, most call points are resettable (such as the Apollo Intelligent Call point, Gent S4 Call point, etc) and it's actually standard regulation now for all call points to be fitted with a plastic cover that has to be lifted to activate it. I'm only speaking for the UK here, but nowadays it's getting rarer and rarer to see a non-resettable break glass and even rarer to see one without a cover on.

[@alarmandsirenguy]

I vote that pull stations are better.

[@pineappleroad]

Just now i remembered about something i saw in one of the buildings at a college i used to go to To get into that building you had to go through two doors, heading inside, the first door opens automatically, for the second door, you have to press a button to open it (i don’t know why they set up like that as it was a swing door, so it could easily have been set up as a power assisted door), on the inside of this second door was a fire alarm call point, just above the button that you have to press to open the door, the call point had a note saying that it is NOT the door open button

[@alarmsandamtrak]

Honestly, after watching this I feel like they should have pull stations designed like the knockoff BG-12 where they have the picture of the house on fire as supposed to just a label that says "FIRE". (FYI, I am not a knockoff BG-12 supporter, other than for the house on fire picture.)

[@dabitzz]

Pull stations are the best in my opinion

[@sebastiannielsen]

I prefer call points, as even the break-glass ones have a resettable option you can buy, which consist of a specially shaped plastic piece, that is bendable, that looks like the glass, that you can put instead of glass. The plastic piece has a hook, that hooks into the ledge that the breakable glass is put on normally. When the plastic piece is bent enough, this hook will fall off the ledge, plastic piece slides down about 5mm, and the call point activates, also the plastic piece has a yellow painted stripe that becomes visible. This so you can choose exactly where you want a single-use glass option, or a resettable option - without changing look! They look the same so you can't know which are glass or resettable, before activation. Also, this is excellent for if you want a breakable type, so when a break-glass is used, you can put a plastic resettable insert temporarly so the call point is in service, until you get glass ordered. Then when glass arrives, just switch out plastic for glass, and now the plastic insert is ready for next call point that needs a temporarly replacement until glass is fixed.

[@ElliotMacpherson-go5lz]

I live in the UK and I had a call point Key Break it was an Apollo call point when you showed the call point keys is the key was number 7

[@petertwinn786]

Yes break glass call points can be activated accidentally. I know from experience. I tripped one night -about 2am - carrying an arm full of large X-Ray cassettes. Of course I fell against the small part of the wall containing the call point, and the corner of a cassette hit the glass. Managed to notify switchboard before the brigade were called, but I’m sure the patients were not very happy being woken by the bell.

[@Nicmrict879]

Manual call point: rectangles tempered glass 4cmx7.7cm

[@pineappleroad]

Back in 2012 (i hope i have remembered the year it happened correctly) someone tripped over a bag and set off a call point at school, thankfully it was a plastic one which can be reset with the correct tool/key, and not a glass one Some places have a plastic cover over the call point to protect against accidental activation, but this school did not have those covers on the call points Before that school moved into the new building, some of the call points in the old building were ones where you had to break the glass and then press the button behind the glass, most of those had a metal thing on a chain which you could use to break the glass Oh, and when i was at college, one of the teachers/tutors/whatever told us a story about the time when they were carrying a glass tank and accidentally activated the call point in one of the handling rooms, which set the fire alarm off Another thing ive just remembered, there is one shopping centre which ive been in, where the call points were replaced with key switches There was a sign taped to the wall next to them saying to contact security if you come across a fire

[@d0g3br34d]

what if the security died you'd be screwed

[@pineappleroad]

@@d0g3br34d its been a while since i was last in that shopping centre (im guessing at least 4 or 5 years), but i think they would have also had smoke detectors And for whatever reason, some, if not all of the stores had actual call points in the store and not key switches (i know that i saw an actual call point in one of the cheap stores in the shopping centre), the key switches i saw were in areas outside of the stores

[@johndeerefan725]

My only Pull Station complaint mainly lyes on the BG-10s. The design of the BG-10s are known to be easily activated by the wood shown. I do think pull stations are my best solution.

[@doohickey-enjoyer]

Other call points don't use glass, like the Apollo call point. they are just as simple to reset as pull stations.

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

yes that’s true

[@cemops8660]

@@FireAlarmDude5967 this is an off brand call point, based off of the kac world series design from the 1980's

[@cemops8660]

@@FireAlarmDude5967 the glass doesn't break like that on the original glass call points either, they crack down the middle in a single line

[@cemops8660]

also, all glass in break glass call points are universal, so an engineer would still only have to carry a few glass pieces

[@doohickey-enjoyer]

@@cemops8660 Yeah, In my opinion both call points and pull stations are great.

[@xetworks1]

Call Points are better, well the ones that you can press and a yellow bar at the top comes up and then you use a key to reset it. Also that are only £5 to £30.

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

Interesting opinion

[@jjbotha6242]

Excellent. Thanks.

[@uksds3806]

Well uk call points can be provided with protective covers.

[@adilhossain8198]

4:06 Hairbrush: imma about to end this stations whole career

[@adilhossain8198]

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[@FireAlarmDude5967]

Lol

[@adilhossain8198]

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[@adilhossain8198]

@@FireAlarmDude5967 Yeah, apparently if you yeet a hairbrush at a pull station (at a certain trajectory), you can activate it.

[@dedricyeotzehao]

Which one lf you pick a call point so you picked break glass UK

[@creativemakeronline]

most call points have plastic covers installed around £3 in the uk which are so much cheaper than the sti stoppers

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

STI stoppers are more for damage protection that anything

[@Joaquinf-j6k]

I went to Mexico and at the airport I saw Spanish bg-12 add advances but there was a door that was automatic and there was emergency door call Point

[@SFSWales]

It's not a competition, they are just different devices from different countries under a different standard and each are useful in their own manner. At the end of the day, if there is a fire you are going to smack both to activate them and get the heck out of there.

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

It certainly is a competition in this video. The entire point of this video is to compare two devices that are designed to accomplish the same purpose. That’s what a comparison is

[@SFSWales]

@@FireAlarmDude5967 I'm used to people shitting on british spec alarms because its "not the same as our amazing american alarms", It gets annoying but I do like american alarms myself.

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

@@SFSWales British systems are certainly different but they are definitely good. I have a different video highlighting the fire safety features I like in the UK.

[@SFSWales]

@@FireAlarmDude5967 Alot of our systems come with voice evac baked in, not all of them and it's rarely on conventional systems but, it's nice to have. I'd like to show you my vigilon system one day if you would be up for that.

[@wordedlemon6]

as a british person I agree and disagree with your analysis, you are correct about MCPs (manual call points) being activated easily by being hit but we do have covers for them. I own 2 MCPs and they have covers on them to stop me accidently activating them. pull stations to be fair also have covers over them. eh🦍

[@Baldibaldimoregaming]

3:04 i have that one at my school!

[@LoganPlayz12]

4:50 why did it go black

[@GentexGuy1997]

It didn’t

[@razvandobos9759]

Breaking glass could delay your response times if it’s a serious emergency and you have to activate the alarm immediately

[@carsonpergar7689]

Call points are used on cruise ships.

[@Earth_Number_12]

I got a new exit sign with emergency lights But for some reason when I plug it In It turns on the emergency lights

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

That’s not good

[@Earth_Number_12]

Yep

[@erikthepirate8068]

I believe the Pull Stations are wat better.

[@Stefan-gy2fl]

Ok sure call points can be accidentally activated more easily but I've seen a lot of call points have a transparent cover that you have to lift and then press so that's less chances of you pressing it

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

Right

[@khmcc5556]

I actually own 2 call points, a KAC point and a GENT S-Quad point that are both resettable, both can be adressabe

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

Neat

[@davidspencer3345]

Call points on the best

[@Cainwaterhouse]

You do get plastic call point that don't break they bend and then reset

[@AndrewIsAwesome882]

Do they have pull stations in Mexico?

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

Yes

[@isaiahgreenfield2037]

Why some pull station flash

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

They are addressable

[@doctor_sandvich]

Call points are superior. End of debate.

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

It would definitely help your case if you produced some reasoning instead of just making a claim

[@West_Kootenay_railfan]

Pull stations are better

[@razvandobos9759]

What are Mexico’s alarms?

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

Not sure

[@razvandobos9759]

@@FireAlarmDude5967 believe they use Sounders and red lights

[@AadiPendse]

@@razvandobos9759 And possibly System Sensor devices since they are made in Mexico.

[@NyxKemo]

A combination of both North American and European systems

[@RealEpikCartfrenYT]

i'm from europe and i think we should adopt pull stations

[@redfireandsecurity3643]

you know in the uk u can buy resettable plastic elements for most call points apart from old style kac of cause

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

Correct

[@AutoUnder]

They actually do now make resettable elements for the old style KAC call points now. Only issue is there is literally no indication that it has been activated so they're only really suitable for the addressable versions with the built in LED

[@sieandknsproductions3491]

My country uses call points

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

Cool

[@alexandersfirealarms]

This very interesting

[@AadiPendse]

Pull stations are better imo

[@hamzahassan7730]

Pull stations all the way

[@chiefac594]

i think a pull station is better

[@davidspencer3345]

You know you can get plastic covers for them

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

Yes they’re called stoppers

[@Jackofalltradescopyright]

I like our pull stations better

[@a.r.aproductions1569]

0:01 Pull stations are better

[@mlxckkisaslipperyboi]

4:24 Simplex

[@firealarm300andmore4]

And México to

[@iansanchez1470]

I went to an airport in Mexico and they had Call Points Instead of Pull Stations, and everywhere else are Pull Stations (Mostly see Fire Lite BG12 LX

[@fs22video]

get gent

[@Loganetics1]

Am I Early?

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

Yeah

[@Loganetics1]

@@FireAlarmDude5967 Noice

[@Retan-Tech]

just hating on the uk

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

The UK is cool the fire alarms are just bland

[@fire-and-alarm1]

your being super baist 1st we have special covers for mcps to prevent accidents like urs in work shop second that key and call point is from china so its bad quality but if you got a proper uk mcp thed be better than american pull stations

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

If you’ve seen any of my more recent videos I’ve made a newer video on a genuine call point

[@fire-and-alarm1]

ill have a look@@FireAlarmDude5967