What’s Going On With NCAA Cross Country?

[@jlchambe77]

Recruiting athletes who are already professional feels a bit ridiculous.

[@tituskiptoo1664]

I am a fact/victim>>>>>>lol my name is titus Kiptoo, i ran for wsc and aic ncaa but check that name online, you will see that i have run a professional run which is not true, in kenya we have similar names especially my tribe who has names starting to kip or chep, trust me,, i was contacted and questioned 2019 to make sure i was not the one who ran on world athletics

[@nohands6865]

Who doesn’t love 28 year old Kenyan freshmen

[@scottbarker9058]

our home grown boys will never have a chance against these imported-dopping-E.AFRICANS!!!!

[@jackdennehyrunning]

That’s why i didn’t mind when NAU had a dynasty, nico and drew were know as us talents for years

[@raquelandrescagigasbermejo7680]

yeah nothing wrong with them coming over its just that alot are coming over extremely developed which is just unfair

[@ChristopherCudworth]

lol good point

[@dutterman812]

When did age restrictions get lifted? I ran in early '90s, certainly wasn't like that then.

[@curtismiller319]

if you're a professional runner you shouldn't be competing in college at a bare minimum

[@casanjt8515]

He's runs professional times..he isn't a pro...obviously 😅 ur daff

[@dengmarial3234]

This is nonsensical drama in NCAA running! There is no age limited in attending post secondary schools education so stopped complaining please!....

[@curtismiller319]

@@dengmarial3234 who said anything about age.

[@curtismiller319]

@@casanjt8515 U Daff, I didn't point to a single runner and many of these athletes are elite professional runners representing their counties in Olympics etc.

[@flomo343]

You could also say that 43sec 400m is a pro athlete 🤷🏾‍♂️. So what's the problem?

[@andrewmitchell5807]

NCAA needs an age maximum

[@mackiechang]

would ruin BYU

[@Nsamity]

@@mackiechangOh well

[@matthewcarlton5693]

💯

[@Jhinderliter]

@@mackiechangbyu is a bit different from teams like Arkansas. After highschool, half their team goes over seas on missions for a year then come back. It’s not the same as recruiting a 26 year old from Kenya and him running till he is 30.

[@runsrealfast9609]

@@mackiechang if the mission thing worked so well everyone would be doing it. It actually creates more challenges than people realize.

[@SteveS-xq9im]

University of Arkansas -> University of Kenya

[@henrykszymczak4233]

😂so true

[@cucoreyes7941]

Just an answer to what Oklahoma state started last year. OSU opened up Pandora’s box. All programs are now following this model. It’s easier to win with professional Kenyan runners than with high school kids

[@tituskiptoo1664]

I am a fact/victim>>>>>>lol my name is titus Kiptoo, i ran for wsc and aic ncaa but check that name online, you will see that i have run a professional run which is not true, in kenya we have similar names especially my tribe who has names starting to kip or chep, trust me,, i was contacted and questioned 2019 to make sure i was not the one who ran on world athletics

[@Willgo373]

The issue is for the longest time college sports have effectively been a good middle ground and stepping stone between high school athletics and pro athletes, primarily in the young adult range of 18-23. This meant that most would enter as freshman with lots of potential that isn’t yet solidified thus emphasizing the athlete development/training aspect of both colleges and the athletes themselves a lot. That’s what most people expect from NCAA sports but it’s slowly been changing (and sped up a lot by NIL) It’s shifting to this weird professional-like league where athletes are already arriving generally developed at a near-professional level. It’s a shame because watching the post-high school development of runners (and athletes in other sports) truly is entertaining but I also do think sports like XC do deserve more eyes on the top overall racers which the collegiate environment provides.

[@grantm4450]

While I do believe that all should be allowed to obtain an education in America, I don’t think 28 year old men should be allowed to compete as if they were 18 or 19.

[@runsrealfast9609]

let me play devils advocate... why don't HS kids in the US run pro for a few years and then go to college? What is keeping our athletes from doing what the Africans are now doing?

[@alberto8700]

@@runsrealfast9609bc college is supposed to develop the athletes before they turn pro. Pro is a higher level and that’s why the semi pro athletes dominate the lower collegiate level.

[@gummy5862]

@@runsrealfast9609Why don’t runners compete at a NCAA level and then come back to dominate in high school? See how nonsensical that question is?

[@biggiecheez6879]

​@@alberto8700college is supposed to be for getting a degree lol. Athletics should be secondary

[@lowlego543]

NCAAs needs to become like this, look at the standard it takes to win. Nico Young ran sub 27 and sub 13 and yet still didn’t win everything. Bringing the best together is going to elevate the sport here. HS athletes are now capable of running 13:20-13:30s over 5k. Long term this will improve American Distance running to new heights by being pushed by the best in the world

[@262ivanh]

I agree. I think this is the push needed to bring American runners to a world class level in the marathon

[@matthewcarlton5693]

We are in a golden age of distance running in this country, Having middle aged Kenyans winning every race is not going to improve anything.

[@JM-xx3lf]

⁠@@262ivanh in marathon ?? I think the discipline is just not attractive because many little country have more density in marathon than United States.

[@262ivanh]

@@JM-xx3lf it would be nice but who knows if it’ll ever happen

[@youraveragelatino1089]

This is the best take in all the comments. I don’t see any issue in here

[@matthewcarlton5693]

It is completely absurd. My son runs division i xc and every meet is like this.

[@Hacker1o1]

@@jamesromano3288 what

[@jamesromano3288]

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[@johnm8079]

@@jamesromano3288 i hope you can get the mental help and support that you need and deserve.

[@Hacker1o1]

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[@jamesromano3288]

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[@acino_nyx]

The issue isn't where the athletes are coming from, it's the fact that 22 year old seniors are racing 28 year old freshman who are basically professional runners. Post covid, there are also a lot of American runners who should have aged out of eligibility in all reality.

[@caseysmith544]

Yes but the NCAA gave an extra year for athletes in 2020 because of USA lockdowns and those who were forced by state issues to stop in 2021 like California because of the outbreaks of Corona-virus in the big cities or NYC and Long Island that had outbreaks/lockdowns until almost the end 2021where Long island was in the clear but because of NYC insisted on lockdowns.

[@dylanmccormick7328]

The whole point of the ncaa is that it’s non professional and its to develop national talent to bridge the high school pro gap but now it’s the exact opposite

[@runsrealfast9609]

thats not the case anymore with NIL and revenue sharing (that is still in the works). College sports are just a lower level profession now

[@scottsnyder2726]

Runners from other countries have been running in the NCAA for decades, as your video points out. It only helps to improve the competition. Do believe there should be some sort of age limit to run competitively though. It is college. Not sure that would thin the ranks much. Recent XC race had Habtom Samuel 1st and Graham Blanks 2nd. These two are likely to compete at the elite level for years to come. Makes us better.

[@jaimim3675]

Recruiting internationally is fine- Alabama's Lemngole is a wonderful runner, and I agree that it deepens our own field and makes us better. What I disagree with is recruiting international professionals... They're already the age of seasoned pros and can keep pace with them. Why come to the NCAA to be a big fish in a comparatively small pond? You don't want to peak too soon or burn yourself out in college, just my opinion.

[@Dalphon-Mecko]

Why do they not improve comp in their OWN country? oh yeah, their country sucks...

[@jaimim3675]

@@Dalphon-Mecko That's awfuly narrowminded. Kenya has one of the largest economies in Africa and their runners dominate distance running; they're saturated with talent. Nothing about that country "sucks". Our student athletes wouldn't be nearly as competitive once they decide to go pro without the diveristy of our athletic programs, but I think most here would agree that there's a better way to do it.

[@jacksonRuns]

as a 10th grade american hs runner that would like to run d 1, this new era terrifys me ngl 💀💀

[@evanske254tv3]

Start accepting it and train hard to get to that level

[@tituskiptoo1664]

dont worry I am a fact/victim>>>>>>lol my name is titus Kiptoo, i ran for wsc and aic ncaa but check that name online, you will see that i have run a professional run which is not true, in kenya we have similar names especially my tribe who has names starting to kip or chep, trust me,, i was contacted and questioned 2019 to make sure i was not the one who ran on world athletics

[@MusicFoRealz]

⁠Yeap, you heard @@evanske254tv3. Start training like a pro, even though you’re just a High schooler trying to get into D1

[@Bald_Gojo123]

Chase your dreams!!! You can do it. Also, you don’t have to be an NCAA champion to have a great experience running in college. Heck you don’t even have to do D1 to have a great experience. As long as you’re enjoying it and working hard you’re gonna do great

[@Alieebabbe]

Better start altitude training 6 months a year dude. That’s why these Kenyans are so good they are born and raised at altitude

[@magnusrylander]

The problem is for cross country there is no professional league for these athletes to go. I mean maybe the track but most dont make it that far. If they havent gone to college yet then why not? College sports are basically pro-lite. Their salarys are called scholarships. Theres no pro team to go to. If a professional xc league was created by the pro teams would be swooping these guys up before colleges could even take a look at them.

[@lunarkoala2375]

As someone who is seeing this first hand in the NJCAA it's not quite as bad as you'd think. Funny enough my teammate was actually pictured in the video (light blue on the left 0:23). You brought up the Oklahoma State team. Without mentioning that they recruited just as many Americans as they did Kenyans last year. My teammate was one of them before he transferred to where I'm at. Some of these guys are legitimately around the same age as us Americans when they get here which I believe to be fair as it gives them opportunity they would otherwise not have. It's not like these guys are going and just ruining these schools either. They are brining everyone else up with them. My buddy who was at OKST said that the environment there was just insane and that almost all of them were the nicest guys you'll ever meet. And maybe sometimes it goes a little too far kind of like what Tech has done. But these schools are playing by the same rules as everyone else.

[@archlutesmith]

Do you hear yourself? "They recruited just as many Americans as they did Kenyans" Hello ?, this is an American school

[@lunarkoala2375]

@@archlutesmith it’s not limited to just Americans. They can recruit who they want. They want to win titles and the best runners are in East Africa so that’s who’s going to get the scholarships

[@traderstatusquo]

@@lunarkoala2375 well said lunar, ignore the haters. Don't hate the player, hate the game. Oregon recruited king Ches from my highschool, because he gave OREGON THE BEST CHANCE TO WIN AT NATTY'S (indoors, outdoors, cross country). Did Edward Cheserek not put Oregon on the map, and further helped them recruit great talent? Not that serious folks.

[@MrStepBro]

Ches did not put oregon on the map Bill Bowerman and Pre did. What are you on about 😂

[@TheRealBrayoTv]

@@MrStepBroChes did put Oregon on a map. I have been a competitive athlete for many years and absolutely never payed attention to Oregon until Ches came in. So he at the very least AIDED in putting Oregon out there furthermore.

[@henrykszymczak4233]

if your last name is kipchoge you know your fast fr

[@Jhinderliter]

Okay but to be fair..we can complain about Kenyan runners coming over and dominating but in the past 10 years only one Kenyan has won the individual title and that was Edwin kurgat from Iowa st

[@cozyflyinggirl]

Why do they run on relatively flat golf courses except over hilly, bumpy, steep ups and downs? Other cross country nations run on those really up and down courses.

[@petermacnamee5791]

Realistically there are only 10-12 American distance running prospects per college graduating class that will be competitive on the world stage post college. That may be a generous estimate, depending on what you call competitive. They will be fine.

[@bensmith4430]

For me it’s the fact that these “freshmen” are already the oldest students on campus. It doesn’t make sense, college has always been the spot for amateurs to hone their skills and slingshot into the pros. Not for pros to come win some confidence boost races and then go back to their wife and kids and professional trainers

[@Renee5678]

And for a sport that already doesn’t have the highest scholarship dollars…to bring in 28 year old pros…

[@PerryScanlon]

The bigger issue is that the NCAA barely does much testing.

[@dengmarial3234]

This is nonsensical drama in NCAA running! There is no age limited in attending post secondary schools education so stopped complaining please!...

[@petermacnamee5791]

For one thing g this fall was pretty dry and warm at least in the northeast and mid Atlantic, so many courses were fast

[@tatewilker6323]

This is also sort of a problem in alpine ski racing, where athletes from Europe and Canada take most of the D1 spots many of them being in their 20’s and being either just cut or almost made their national teams. To add onto that, there are only 22 D1 alpine schools, making it extremely competitive to make a D1 team.

[@timsilano9176]

Coach Silverberg at ENMU started the Kenyan flow to the NCAA starting with Mike Boit in the early 70's, well before Rono and WS.

[@noahrasmussen7639]

Nico Young could have broken an hour in the half his senior year at NAU…

[@JohnnyMarathon]

I always wondered if the NCAA should issue a ruling similar to what's in Japan. In Japan, in most races, teams in high school / college are only allowed to have one foreign athlete participate in an event. Maybe that could help the situation, but not sure how heavily that would affect other sports in the NCAA.

[@liams7374]

Na that’s stupid it shouldn’t be American only or mostly American but other countries shouldn’t be able to come at older ages

[@aarondavidson907]

The biggest issue in my opinion is the fact that age cheating is rampant in many East African countries. It’s not just speculation, it’s been confirmed on numerous occasions

[@DavidPalmer]

I was running against non-Americans back in the early 90s. This is nothing new. It's just easier now to scout global talent and college athletes get paid due to NIL, which isn't helping homegrown talent.

[@StanfordFan-jn1dp]

NCAA top finishers this year: 1. Parker Wolfe from North Carolina State. 2. the guy from New Mexico State (who won in 2023) and 3. Graham Blanks from Harvard who won in 2022.

[@petermacnamee5791]

I say rising tides raise all ships. The NCAA has been an international competition for a long time and if the best from the world come to the NCAA, it will raise the standard for American athletes as well.

[@andrewh7599]

What's happening is shameful. The NCAA should be embarrassed by the current state of affairs with international athletes in XC.

[@dengmarial3234]

This is nonsensical drama in NCAA running! There is no age limited in attending post secondary schools education so stopped complaining please!...

[@shawnsalvetti1793]

I didnt know that you could compete in NCAA as a pro.

[@johnlewisiii2076]

An NCCA championship attracts the interest of thousands of Americans willing to pay out of state tuition ~$35-50k/yr. Bringing over a few foreigners on scholarship makes financial sense for the administrators.

[@thomasanderson9460]

do they graduate ? or more like the Ncaa Basketball stars in college .1 or 2 and done

[@marksolvent3259]

Yup. At the end of the day these are world class athletes so they should be welcomed wherever they come from. However, if these are supposed to be college level athletes we should definately have an age bracket so as to not game the system unfairly.

[@GabrielMartinez-ed6xg]

They’re all doping lol

[@Jhinderliter]

Who is

[@MagnetarCO]

Kenyans in particular

[@GabrielMartinez-ed6xg]

@@Jhinderliter foreign athletes and top Americans. Unless they were studs immediately from hs… but Galen Rupp has even been on test since he was 16

[@Jhinderliter]

@@GabrielMartinez-ed6xg so if ur foreign or a top athlete you are doping? That is an absurd take…also, testosterone is such an easy drug to test for and Galen rupp has been tested hundreds of times in the past 10 years and hasn’t failed. He was given testosterone at 16 is not the same as he’s been on it since 16. Also, most top American runners and top foreign athletes WERE studs in high school. You also do not understand the progression a person can have naturally if you think everyone is on drugs.

[@isitrachelorj3953]

@@Jhinderliter what is the criminally high # of suspended/sanctioned Kenyon runners up to now, for the last two years? 30+, I can't keep track of the count is grows so fast.

[@rolandleslie2564]

6:21 11th 1500 💀

[@bekkahstyles7569]

This + the new SEC roster cuts is troubling

[@matthewcarlton5693]

My argument is that it’s the age of the runners that is the problem not what country they are from

[@Cyantist13]

It's not their age that's the problem, it's their professional status that's the problem.

[@jamiekiley1831]

There needs to be an age limit. And limit of foreign born atheletes per team. NCAA does not need to be a professional league.

[@okonh0wp]

Well, Americans and Canadians have medalled at the world level, one could argue that youd also get the best Americans at a program like New Mexico or Oklahoma St if you also get foreign recruits as welp

[@snakey973]

D3 - its pure sport, what its supposed to be

[@sabonis7]

casye clinger 🔥🔥

[@rustyknott-W.D]

NIL has pretty much made all college athletes professionals. Age restrictions? How about the kid(s) who went into the military before going to college? BYU has long had older athletes competing due to those who went on their Mormon Mission at 18 and then went on to college. Take a look at the last few years of the NCAA xc championships. Who's winning? Legitimate ages for their class, that's who and lots of them are Americans.

[@GeorgeEdwards1]

This is the type of immigration I can get behind. Let's bring highly talented athletes from poor countries and give them amazing opportunities.

[@sabonis7]

connor mantz🐐🐐

[@timhansen5689]

The video neglects to mention the #1 (and quite frankly, the only) problem, AGE! Anyone from anywhere should be able to compete as long as it's on equal terms. A 26-30 year old has a huge advantage over 18-24 year olds. Wrestling & Boxing have weight classes. America's running program is founded on age groups for a reason, but that stops at 18 even though running development is on a bell curve to the early 30's before it begins to decline. College should have an age cap of about 26. If you're 27+, then turn pro or put that education to work and start paying taxes. IMO

[@johnny33321]

getting them straight from the source

[@kopav2285]

I have zero issues with fast foreign nationals coming into the NCAA system. The problem is the age of athletes coming in. I think there needs to be a hard cap of 24 year old. That assuming graduating at 18, one gray shirt year and a medical hardship year as well. Anything beyond that is just silly.

[@PatrickOcmond]

But here’s the thing it doesn’t matter. You still have to run your best and nobody’s complaining because you want to compete against the best at any level. Just because you’re throwing international athletes in the mix doesn’t mean crap to anybody. Just push harder because College is the back bone towards the Olympics. So cry about it international talent should come here to compete

[@kevinchristian7743]

Is this hurting the popularity of the sport? Do you think OSU alum and students are coming out to cheer for their teams, or could they care less and this is one of the reasons? It's even worse in college soccer, and I believe it's a turn off for the common fan.

[@Philobiblion]

I think the East African talent lifts all the boats. I wonder what goes on at the Kenyan sports federation trying to slow down everybody to not ruin the NCAA. The NCAA has very nicely, even splendidy bloomed into a Kenyan minor league for world class talent. Do good in school. Run fast. Go to America to become a great runner. Succeed. Return with the promise of wealth that will benefit all of us. A very sensible strat plan for the Kenyan sports federation.

[@MagnetarCO]

Bringing professional runners to compete against amateurs does nothing to raise the sport. If you ever raised professionally or received any prize money then you should be ineligible to compete in the NCAA.

[@Philobiblion]

@@MagnetarCO Obviously what you say makes sense on one level. First, NCAA has to decide if there is actually a problem. Then they have to figure out what to do about it. NCAA could limit the number of foreign runners just like they limit the number of scholarships. Also, the schools could be self-policing, which isn't very likely. Two years ago I went through the list of finishers in the women's NCAA champs and tried to figure how many were foreigners. I came up with about 45 out of 250, of whom around 15 had African-looking names. The rest were from Canada, Europe and Down Under. You could cap the number of foreigners on any squad, but you would have to apply the cap uniformly.

[@TobiasStarling]

I refused to run during my phd felt a bit wrong as a mature man racing against boys. Potentially cost me big time but it felt like the right thing to do.

[@SupersonicWaveLength]

Bullshit. If you were remotely adequate in your field, you would not have had time to put in the training required to compete at the NCAA level. This sentence is pure copium, like all those scrubs saying they "coulda made the league if not for [insert excuse]".

[@kavustock]

It was like this in the old days. I dealt with this as an 18 year-old freshman, where an olympian with a wife and kids lined up in the box next to ours at the NCAA Div I Championship. It's complete bullshit.

[@atomicskistuntman6754]

Eastern New Mexico was the first.

[@b.o.m9078]

I only see this improving American distance running. Last year we saw Graham Blanks beat A world championship calibre athlete and its already anyways been happening in the sprints with recruits joining the NCAA with very serious High school Times and almost sub 10 100m times. Taking Hakim sani brown when he joined. The only difference could be the age. But if a country like Kenya( and very soon more countries in the east african region ) have athletes who are not in the top 100 in their country but could place in the top 5 in the NCAA its obvious schools and those athletes will take advantage of that option to seek to improve their performances and its all within the rules. People who are complaining simply havent been paying attention to the system and changes that have already taken place.

[@matthewcarlton5693]

No, it's so ridiculous.

[@runnerthe89]

It hurts the American high school recruiting which was the point of the NCAA.

[@GordonMartin-v4r]

NCAA is a level for progression not finished product. Your argument is absurd.

[@HenryKiser-jg9iv]

agreed, imagine how much slower americans would be without those extra 10ish guys to run with at the end

[@GordonMartin-v4r]

@@HenryKiser-jg9iv men. 10'ish 28 year old men in their long distance prime.

[@Dalphon-Mecko]

America is for Americans, Kenya is for Kenyans - Malcolm X (sort of) ...

[@isitrachelorj3953]

Not one word about doping. The long-term effects/advantages of doping come to American universities when those East African athletes arrive. NOBODY who follows the sport closely can be unaware/unconcerned about this issue. An older, quasi-professional runner who has been in the dirty/doped world of organized East African running federations IS SUSPECT, IT CANNOT BE DENIED BY ANY OBJECTIVE ANALYSIS.

[@newmb321]

pretty soon every country will just be sending Kenyans to the olympics in middle and long distances...

[@supitschillbro]

it seems awfully like you just don’t like who the new athletes are, but okay….. 0:46

[@Dalphon-Mecko]

Trained in America (NCAA) and represents their home country in the Olympics HMMMMMMMMMMMM... Are we just training our Olympic opponents?

[@idabernstein]

Steel sharpens steel. Stop complaining.

[@konradknapp4474]

Is this video AI generated?

[@snakey973]

Its ridiculous and will ruin college running

[@AJ-bf9kq]

I think it will help push the younger athletes

[@thomasanderson9460]

Freshman under 20 YO

[@HowlingFantods]

There is a way in which inviting the talent of the world to compete with our young men, will actually force our young men to become better than they ever would previously, and then allow them to be more competitive at a global scale but its also destroying an institution, the University system, which was designed for Americans and giving it to the world.

[@tituskiptoo1664]

anyway, here is what you need to focus most, men are competing in womens team but you are not saying anything. I will soon be running boston marathom womens team and i will be identifying as a woman since usa respect peoples identity ,,,,,,once you complain about men running in womens team then you can now complain about old age ncaa international athletes

[@sabonis7]

somehow BYU beat OSU

[@Oenloveslife]

At 2:30+/- you say "...have went on..". The correct grammar is "...have gone on...". You are an intelligent commentator, so I believe you'd prefer to go forward with correct grammar.

[@derrickkihembo9576]

We are all smarter because of you. You should be proud.

[@MattLindaman]

I don't agree with the overall theme of the video. I would agree with the following: 1. that there are many runners insanely fast; 2. cross country, like bball and football, and other NCAA sports have moved to elite, uber schedules that mimic professionalism. At one point, the narrator seems to argue Oklahoma State ruined everything by dethroning Northern Arizona due to foreign athletes. I thought the Lumberjacks were dominated by runners from NZ, Australis, Guat., , ect. when they had their reign? Foreign atheltes have been part of the scene since the 1950s--Houston, BYU, Providence--all well before Washington State. .

[@matthewcarlton5693]

I have been to 3 meets this season, large meets with 30+ teams, and in each their is a pack of much older looking East Africaners with a good minute lead over the rest of the pack. It's just the reality of it, and they are racing insanely fast times.

[@bankai4735]

@@matthewcarlton5693I mean that’s not just in the NCAA it’s in general Africans have all the distance records so far and it doesn’t make a difference if it’s competition in highschool,college, or global it will always be the same

[@matthewcarlton5693]

@@bankai4735 That is not actually true. Just look at the 1500 at the Olympics.

[@bankai4735]

@ ok yes jakob cole, but that’s realistically only 2 athletes and the 1500 is considered mid distance like the 800 where you can obviously tell who dominates that event same with the 5k,10k, half marathon, marathon and it’s in general multiple athletes from either Kenya or Ethiopia

[@matthewcarlton5693]

@@bankai4735 Jakob, Cole, Jacob Whightman, Josh Kerr, Nguisse, Kenneth Rooks, Bhikalli, Grant Fisher, lots on non East Africans to choose from.

[@PatrickOcmond]

I bet you could ask any college runner and they’d be excited to run against the best international athletes from around the world.

[@Renee5678]

Some, maybe. Not sure too many 19 year old freshman expect to run against 25-28 yr old freshman!

[@Davbaldwin1]

At the end of the day, it elevates everyone's performance and we will produce stronger athletes. I think BYU has a chance against Oklahoma state who is loaded with international talent.

[@TimMarshall-er9qk]

At the end of the day, its still wrong.

[@Davbaldwin1]

@@TimMarshall-er9qk why is it wrong? athletes should always want to compete against the best to elevate their performance. Does it somehow offend you?

[@TimMarshall-er9qk]

@@Davbaldwin1 Are you that braindead? Ask a middle schooler how he feels about competing against High Schoolers. You will get your answer. smh

[@traderstatusquo]

Don't hate the player, hate the game. Oregon recruited king Ches from my highschool, because he gave OREGON THE BEST CHANCE TO WIN AT NATTY'S (indoors, outdoors, cross country). Did Edward Cheserek not put Oregon on the map, and further helped the institution recruit great talent? Not saying Oregon wasn't a top tier distance program already, but ncaa SCHOOLs strategically recruit to increase there odds of winning the top crown. Not that serious folks.

[@solomonhiggins4576]

Oklahoma state

[@jake5811]

SUGGESTION: IF you are going to allow 28 year old Africans to compete in NCAA events then an adjustment should be made. For example, they can compete in collegiate events but when it comes to the NCAA championships only AMERICAN kids can be awarded ALL-AMERICAN honors. This should not go to any athlete from another nation. PERIOD. ALL-AMERICAN means just that ALL AMERICAN. For example, If a 19 year old sophomore attending Penn State or any other US college finishes 68th in the NCAA cross country championship but there were 42 foreign athletes in front of him he should be named ALL-AMERICAN.