What’s gone wrong for Europe’s Greens as European elections near? | DW News

[@psnaris]

Perhaps the fact that the German Greens were responsible for reopening coal fired power plants might have something to do with it.

[@Handsanitzer792]

Wait, really?

[@obinator9065]

I'm sure that's why they're polling about the same (13-15%) as the result they got in the federal election in 2021. In the primary state of these coal fired power plants, their coalition with the CDU almost has a 2/3rd majority. So they're doing just fine.

[@Memovox]

@@obinator9065 The German coal fired plants are "doing just fine" you mean, lol

[@artman12]

While shutting down nuclear plants?

[@samuela-aegisdottir]

@@Handsanitzer792 Germany decided to switch off and dismantle already fucntioning nuclear power plants and burn more coal instead. One of the most anti-climate moves ever. And Germany's Green Party pushed for this move. Not all Green parties all the same though.

[@MegaMementoMori]

That was beautiful. This woman literally admitted that she wants us to make sacrifices for foreigners. And she blamed her party's low numbers on tictoc. If Greens are so incredibly tone deaf and delusional, they are bound to have a rude awakening and I will enjoy every minute of it.

[@WangMingGe]

And they will despise you, the voter, for not being willing to sacrifice your wellbeing for their imported pets and their sense of self-righeousness....worse, they will expect you to feel guilty and ashamed for causing them to despise you.

[@stuff7044]

Green: doesnt acknowledge nuclear as green, but approves natural gas. Need I say more?

[@regi2475]

That's not the reason why they lost the election. It's mostly because of money and migration

[@juniorrokudevelopertutoria3734]

Exactly

[@jameshdr5583]

Germany is still a colony… hahah

[@andrewharvey3282]

You can't be massive hypocrites without paying a price. Otherwise you'll be emboldened to keep going.

[@emib6599]

Actually, politics teach the exact opposite. This is more an exception to the rule.

[@blackphoenix114]

These oldies thought they could scam the youngsters lmao.

[@hamish1309]

Yup.

[@herman65]

What are you talking about?

[@TugaThings]

For me and many others, the reason I've become disappointed with the Greens was their policies in Germany, shutting down nuclear plants but favoring natural gas and coal. Being for the climate but anti-nuclear is just dumb, since nuclear energy has way lower emissions than the other two, making it more eco-friendly transition energy.

[@joaquimbarbosa896]

The greens in France and Portigal aren't good either

[@cheese7119]

Im so sad that there's no good greens :( you are NOT GREEN IF YOU AGREE WITH COAL AND OIL

[@amnatnevarroanandan4320]

when they think there are above voters this is what they get

[@Garatzeos]

In the name of climate eschatology we will abolish energy security, food security, industrial production etc?

[@0ptic0p22]

maybe call them FAR LEFT?

[@sergio7248]

Because there are actual far left parties and it wouldn't be fair to them. Saving the climate should be everyones' fight

[@Thesecret101-te1lm]

No. The greens have done center-right things like having reduced road tax on EVs and hybrids that the middle class can afford, while poor people have to pay way higher road tax for the vehicles they can actually afford. And then said middle class might not even bother charging their hybrids but still gain the lower tax, while poor people would for sure run hybrids on electricity as much as possible.

[@imcbocian]

Far left would be anarchists, but there are no such party. Comunist are most on left right now

[@soundscape26]

They are not anti-Capitalists.

[@TeWakaOAoraki]

Why would you call Greens far left on a continent where communist parties exist?

[@maanvol]

Greens are some of the greatest war lobbyists!

[@maanvol]

@fastpistonx Spot on!

[@Dexs59]

You mean defending Democracy lobbyist. Better then been bought by PUTIN like our far right (AfD!!) and far left parties in Germany!

[@opheliaelesse]

Lunatic Hofreiter!!!

[@neoinitiative]

Keep ignoring the public and see how that works out for you!

[@harris_lazaridis]

Keep ignoring the climate change and see how that will work our for US.

[@DrakenKorin140]

They talk a big game on goals, but they seem blind to the details and methods of getting to the goals. Because of this they have failed to make green sustainable policies better than the alternative (see closing nuclear and coal power at the same time, if you must do it one at a time. Prefferably, climate change related, coal first) it's disappointing to see

[@tadhgcronin175]

Great comment.

[@joaquimbarbosa896]

On point

[@wildmouse5888]

Eventually reality kicks in. It's all very well to spout high-minded platitudes about loving Mother Earth at all costs, but when the costs become apparent attitudes change.

[@obinator9065]

They're polling around the same as the result they got in the 2021 election. They're actually doing fine when compared to the 2 other coalition parties. Actually, in the state where they're pushing the most renewables (NRW), they almost have a supermajority in polls with their CDU coalition partner.

[@madamcurie-yg5sr]

Mother Earth will live on just fine. It is humans that will suffer from pollution. The issue is humans are often bad at long term vs short term decisions making.

[@Memovox]

@@obinator9065 'Transformismo' governments always fail.

[@hamish1309]

Scam from the start.

[@gaborrajnai6213]

Lemme guess, Baerbock is by far the most hated German politician...

[@patrickcowan8701]

People want to enjoy life. When politicians enjoy a high standard of living but tell you to take cold showers, don't vacation and eat bugs, well people will be displeased.

[@victorschwanberg]

People will be even more displeased by climate change! Which do you choose, high living or climate chaos?

[@patrickcowan8701]

Climate has always been chaotic. Science. Remember we were under kilometers thick ice only 15000 years ago and before that the arctic was semi tropical. Now that's climate chaos.

[@soundscape26]

Bruh, I have barely heard any politician tell me to take cold showers or eat bugs.

[@patrickcowan8701]

​@@soundscape26 You are not German i assume.

[@ХейХей-ю3ф]

You already eat the bugs. Where do you think red coloring in your food come from?

[@eastcoastsailingcenter7768]

No self reflection at all .

[@GreenOliveBranch]

I’m middle income earner. Eating meat, driving to country side are my luxury. I can’t buy an electric car because it’s too expensive. The more farmers are punished more low income people pay. So far green politics only impacted middle and lower income people. There’s only one planet, that’s right, but also one life. Therefore I won’t be supporting them as long as their ridiculous policies target the rich.

[@baassiia]

I consider myself, upper middle class and I agree, that richer you are, less fianncial pain of that eco transformation you feel. Energy price went up, fair enough, we installed solar panels and took huge refund. If you are poor, you are forced to pay high bills, can't afford much upgrades in your home... Same with food prices, we (husband and I) got decent raise so again, not much changed. Those CO2 taxes hurts mostly poors and average. Hope this madness will stop soon...

[@cheese7119]

​@baassiia imagine taxing the poor instead of abolishing cole and oil...

[@HoboGodfrey]

It's just about the tax, the carbon tax, in order to bring it in all figures are manipulated. Look at the UK where rivers, lakes and estuaries get more polluted.

[@matthewbaynham6286]

This news article didn't analyze the numbers fully. The article said that 2019 the Greens got 71 seats, however in 2019 the UK was in the EU, so some of those seats would have gone to UK Greens. In order to understand how the change in seats reflects a change in attitudes you also need to explain the Brexit effect of the UK Greens disappearing, and how that effects the numbers. OK it's not going to explain the entire loss of (71 - 54), 17 seats, but it's a factor to consider.

[@2ebarman]

46 is the number of vacancies Brexit caused, not 71 (or 73 actually originally).

[@matthewbaynham6286]

@@2ebarman you need to read more carefully to understand because you're correcting something I didn't say.

[@2ebarman]

@@matthewbaynham6286 Appologies, I started looking up how many seats were vacant after brexit and apparently one should not try to be smartass first thing in the morning

[@HoboGodfrey]

Baerbach wants war, how is war green?

[@anuragsinha2013]

Ursula von der layen is going to be gone in two years and then end up in a think tank in New York or Washington, which is where she has more in common with, unlike the average voter in Germany, whom she dispises, same can be said about Olaf Scholz and Macron.

[@wesleydeng71]

The young are easy to manipulate but they will grow up eventually.

[@herman65]

I'd much prefer English subtitles over translated audio. That's just annoying.

[@michaeltruman3218]

The greens are so out of touch. The greens lie so much.

[@patricksharp1063]

When you have Gretta Thunberg as your climate science advisor, where you tax and ban plant food and wish to cull any animal farting, we have a serious misunderstanding of how Nature and its laws of biochemistry work. If your base premise is scientifically incorrect, anything you do will not change the rules of Nature or go well.

[@WangMingGe]

It is odd how they expect to be taken seriously as a political party, yet set up an insane and uninformed Swedish woman (despite her bizarrely childlike appearance, which they use to prevent people from criticizing her too harshly, she's an adult) as some kind of demi-god or oracle, whom we all must seek wisdom from and obey.

[@user-hp6ls8qy6d]

It's because when you ask them about anything except the environment, they don't have a clue.

[@williamcarlson5405]

From WC USA, has anyone else noticed that the Global Warming has now been in place for 20 to 30 years and yet I haven’t seen the oceans rise and the first 500 feet or so of each and every coast around the world being covered with sea water now?! Could someone tell me why not?!

[@TheSelefinal]

That would prove green politics are working, wouldn't it? Anyway it was never supposed to happen in 30 years, but in arround a 100. You can certainly see temperatures rise year after year though. Heat waves are getting worse, huracanes too.

[@markanthony3275]

How about their fantasy world collided with REALITY!

[@Leptospirosi]

THE FAR RIGHT! THE FAR RIGHT! THE FAR RIGHT!!! 😱😱😱 like a broken record... That's what DW politics is all about..

[@JakeShaft85]

In Sweden the green party do much better in EU election then national election. 2014 they had 15,4%, 2019 11,5% and in 2024 they might get 8-9%. In last two national elections they had 4-5%. The reson for the greens in Sweden going back I believe is because they make life more expensive and more doffcult for peopel who live outside the three biggest cities. Many reasons. Petrol prices, regulations for hydorelectric dams, regulatons for weapons & hunting, how many wolves we should have, regulations for farmers etc. And a big one is implementing a law while they were in the government which made nuclearpower unprofitable. They implemented a tax which in practice only applied to nucelar power plants which lead to higher prices on electricity. The greens are killing themselves outside Stockholm in Sweden.

[@960john]

The issue is a "green Europe" wouldn't solve climate change at all, since Europe is a minor polluter compared to US, China and India. On the other hand, if we push hard on these policies and others don't follow, we lose economic competivity. So, what's for?

[@Klote3241]

That is not actually true tho. regardless if we do it for climate change or not most of those programs are programs that make sure we are self reliant and wont need to import resources as much from countries like lets say china or OPEC countries. We would actually be more efficient with the resources we have and thus be more economically competitive. Id rather not have cars run on fossil fuels id possible.... i mean the fumes are toxic to us... so there are also health benefits to think about. And lets not forget the Intellectual Propriety we can sell to other nations. So the argument that we wont be economically competitive is not true.

[@samuela-aegisdottir]

EU is smalled polluter than US and China, but not a minor polluter. And EU causes lots of secondary pollution: the products which create emissions in China, India and developing world are created for European markets. The goods we bought in shops here in EU have high carbon footprint, but it was not manufactured in EU, so the emmisions are ascribed to the country of origin. EU has relatively low emmissions because it has deidustrialized, but we still buy and use product made by industrial processes, they just happen elsewhere.

[@santostv.]

We need to stop trying to be friends with everyone and continue to do what is working and ditch the rest

[@hybridstryker233]

Bro stop greenwashing people mind bro

[@gig2734]

Well, no one could have predicted covid and the Ukraine/Russia conflict in 2019. But I think you can blame green politicians for not having tried to adapt their policy to the current circumstances. Toning down politics in the last six months before the election would have been better than having lower ambitions for five years. And when will they learn that voters today have no unquestioning loyalty to politics.

[@auyemra1331]

What do you mean? The US was warning all of EU that Russia was going to invade. They had their armies on the border for over a year.

[@janhokas8482]

Some astrologers predicted COVID based on the Jupiter-Saturn-Pluto conjunction

[@wind-leader_jp]

I know of a product that significantly reduces air conditioning usage in the summer. Simply put, you can cool it with wind in the mornings and nights when the temperature is low. Therefore, all you need to do is guide the air into the room efficiently. You need to take action now. Nothing will change if you expect politics.

[@PG24108]

A compelling appeal to all political factions: Unite under a single banner, present a unified candidate, and prevent the dilution of votes. This unity is not just a strategy, but a testament to our shared commitment to effective governance. Let's stand together, undivided, for the greater good.

[@annapurna-c3v]

From green wave to green trickle. I see part of the reason is because of all the hard work of the greens is being picked up by the mainstream. A sad but interesting trend in green policy (in Germany but especially in Australia) is its shift in focus away from environmental issues to far left socialism

[@alithahnar7957]

That's the problems with the green they decide to push the most effective on paper solution, yet ignore any solution that gets close to the mark. The problem the Greens have is they hold on to perfect instead accepting great solutions and those would mostly not put voters off.

[@kg49er]

I believe it's too much on social and not enough climate focus

[@thomasgrabkowski8283]

Simple. People are fed up with leftist politics

[@anuragsinha2013]

If at all everything fails just blame Russia.

[@hardeepchaudhary893]

We got to phase out fossil fuels slowly we can't do it all at once.

[@Jimmy4video]

Once again DW left comments on to provide a platform to manipulate their viewers, how kind.

[@lovyrituraj]

Ideology is totally bollocks

[@davidmayer769]

Shame and blame, has run its course. We will not be undermined in personal self worth, even for those of us who are liberal and quite green supportive. Greenness is part of the concerns of the human life cycle, but not all of it. There needs to be a much more full rounded focus in life, and moral priorities.

[@ianashworth5953]

How about it’s a complete load of nonsense and a fantasy?

[@soundscape26]

It's never bad to care for the environment

[@acetylcoa6540]

1:43 start by not eating for three.

[@stereomtl9001]

she is a strong independent woman 😂😂😂

[@WangMingGe]

You misunderstand. They want YOU to sacrifice on food, heating, air conditioning, etc.....but they will gorge, and buy, and luxuriate all they want.

[@stevendefehr4393]

Far left in Canada too 😢

[@ryanv2324]

They are too far left

[@WangMingGe]

And authoritarian.

[@J.o.s.h.u.a.]

Except they aren't.

[@ryanv2324]

@@J.o.s.h.u.a. clearly people agree more with me or their election numbers might have had better results......

[@J.o.s.h.u.a.]

@@ryanv2324 First of all green parties all over Europe have different policies, so the fact they didn't get big numbers doesn't tell anything about their political orientations, because each citizen in each country has a different reason for voting for or against them... and secondly, I was talking about definitions. Being anti-capitalist is far left and no green party in Europe pursues that route. But I guess you're talking from a purely ideological standpoint, which wouldn't make much sense tbh

[@ryanv2324]

@@J.o.s.h.u.a. so for the greens to qualify as far left in your mind they have to tell everyone they are anti-capitalist and anything short of that couldn't be far left......

[@arktseytlin]

Left is over.

[@Truhno4]

Being loud, irrational and abnoxious is not popular... who would have thought?😮😮

[@anuragsinha2013]

Bring Back Deutsch Mark.

[@arnabbiswas3973]

in btween ducati tier alles must b sandwitched bc

[@comacuma2869]

Germany walking could mean green,,,,, like when Gemany worrking,,, Walk more ,,walk 2 work,,, no emission lifestyle ,,get greeen

[@Shadinray96]

"DIE GRÜNEN!!!"

[@adams8847]

Failed policies😂 not so green after all

[@Thesecret101-te1lm]

In addition to different social media presence of various parties, a major factor is also how social media has taken over from consuming public service radio/TV. Tiktok is mentioned but don't forget that all social media are ran by private companies and private companies want right wing politics, and thus they would adjust their algorithm to make young people more right wing leaning.

[@bengeurden1272]

I voted for the political left.. Europa strong 💪

[@SoBiased]

As long as the US Israel leads the EU, there's no problem

[@iska788]

Israel leading the EU? lol

[@arnabbiswas3973]

so de tom staton* wind turbine* pocket 1.exhaust plug yesterday gt40 pbs suggestion if bg eng on zu 2.turbo de axel beck turbine* assist

[@DanielOrth-dx6yp]

Boring

[@arnabbiswas3973]

bissen snorkel dans kassi es

[@Michaelcj-m2d]

Green Party allways 💚☮️💚

[@georgemacpherson1992]

😂 Green Party never.

[@simonklein226]

In my opinion are the greens still the party doing the most for the citizens

[@PPfilmemacher]

😂

[@KristianSaapunki]

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