What's Happening With Vivien Reid? | Magic: The Gathering Lore

[@AetherHub]

Everyone who is rightfully pointing out that Garruk has a card before Nissa, making him the OG green PW, you’re right. In my defense, Nissa is much more prominent in the modern story of MTG which was my thought pattern.

[@themightyd6674]

Aether Hub you beat me to it haha

[@brennennichols7573]

Die hard green player and when I think green I think nissa....well until viv has shown up 💓🤘

[@rylandelliott2912]

You are a Wayward Pokemon Master

[@alfredvonfleisch]

The only reason she is more prominent is because of the card "Triumph of Ferocity". 'Some' people (you know who) screeched at Wizards over that card. They said it depicted Garruk doing... non-consensual things with Liliana and they shelved him immediately.

[@jesok3761]

I think it's because nissa was introduced only 2 years after Garruk, and she's been much more consistent in the story line.

[@ChillyJack]

"The original green planeswalker, Nissa Revane." Garruk would like a word with you Seiben.

[@AetherHub]

We already had a chat. I admitted I was wrong but I explained that Nissa has just been more prominent in modern MTG story than Garruk

[@joshuastephens5127]

Garruk was the original green Planeswalker silly

[@dragonballtalk8527]

To many legendary female cards nowdays

[@ok-cg5yu]

Everyone forgot about our large musky beastmage and i find that insulting

[@brycehinson2005]

Thank you!

[@joshuaperrine2019]

Calling Nissa an OG is like saying the prequel trilogy is OG Star Wars.

[@sixzrazky1129]

Considering all the new stuff, it isn't OG but it's at least second edition lmao

[@Tsuna_SoulSilver]

You spelled sequels wrong

[@johnnyscifi]

Garruk got robbed

[@BarginsGalore]

What are you talking about. Nissa is the og green planeswalker just like Gideon was the og white planeswalker

[@Ryokamen]

The gatewatch needs a new Beefcake and garruk fits that role wonderfully long live the green meat

[@ZakanaHachihaCBC]

Honestly when I started reading the book, I was expecting Tayo to join and become the new “White mana” Walker. I was also expecting way more deaths and a competent story though so, what evs.

[@lucasgray1492]

Zakana I honestly expected so many more deaths. I was disappointed more people didn’t die.

[@AetherHub]

Please consider sharing the video bois. Channel always needs your help to grow!

[@kazybloodshine]

Vivien just got in the train but she has 5 planeswalker cards already 👀

[@dac314]

"The original green planeswalker...Nissa Revaine" Garruk and Freyalise: "are we a joke to you?"

[@AetherHub]

I did kinda laugh at how Garruk was “uncursed” but that’s besides the point 🥰

[@ElChismo]

It’s more a rules thing over lore but the 3 green planeswalkers all do different things, nissa is mana/ramp, Garruk is raw power and Vivian is more creature support. I think they all have different roles and things they can do.

[@dittmar104]

Grant Mudie yeah I don’t see why we have to have one of each it could be equally symbolic to have the gate watch for groups of three to represent three colour factions and only have each group appear in one set or another. Sometimes have cross overs but otherwise not. Like are we gonna lose Jace if Mu Yanling, Kasmina, Narset and Will stick around?

[@nthnthms1212]

Original garruk ramped you

[@ninomachadoelpropio9350]

My fav Planeswalker! Thanks for the lore. I'm looking forward for more on her story. Keep up the videos!

[@jesok3761]

Mr. Seiben keeps referring to nissa as the original mono Green planeswalker, but I remember Garruk was part of the first 5 planeswalkers ever printed along with Chandra liliana Jace, and Ajani.

[@cherrytwelve7570]

Bring back Garruk our master of the hunt.

[@lancelot717]

He's babysitting some European kids rn, try again later

[@catoticneutral]

Did you miss Throne of Eldrane?

[@andricaion9036]

@@catoticneutral correct he was there

[@novrdd]

Why the question who replacing who is such a thing... I mean.. they are different.. and what's up with the main color aligned planeswalker stuff?? They're greens but also represent different aspects of green. It doesn't matter who is the member of the gatewatch, they are unique and let them be

[@Bear4orce1]

I believe the OG green planeswalker was Freyalise but anyways great video lad and love what your doing keep up the good work!!!

[@jesok3761]

Well for now at least she's the first story wise, but Garruk was the first printe.

[@Bear4orce1]

@@jesok3761 Your right also have a great day!

[@jesok3761]

@@Bear4orce1 Thanks, and sorry for the missing d.

[@yacolopez3023]

Yes garruk must be the mon green planeswalker

[@asxd456]

Garruk is the champion of Green

[@Tyke-Myson]

"See if she can take up the mono green mantle from Nissa." Well, considering Nissa was only interesting back when she was effectively an elf nazi, shouldn't be too hard.

[@ericjimenez4360]

Also back in the day where gideon helped destroy his plane, the purifying fire, test of metal, and agents of artifice. I loved those days.... oh and the comics were on point

[@ZakanaHachihaCBC]

Let’s also not forget how she’s the literal reason the Eldrazi started to devour Zendikar. How her Oath was to prevent another world from falling like Zendikar but the second she fails (because the world was already dead and they had been advised against facing Lord Bolas) she fucks off.

[@Tyke-Myson]

Yeah, she's not a very well written or likeable character.

[@seankearney5828]

It’s possible one of the main green planeswalkers pick up a second colour, so while they are no longer main green ‘walker they will be two colour ‘walker going forwards. Nissa has been blue before so she could be Simic going forwards also can use black mana (as in MTG origins) Vivien could also pick up red (unlucky there’s so many Gruul walkers) or black as she deals with animal ghosts

[@sovereigns_scion]

I could see her being GW and making like enchantment creature tokens

[@jesok3761]

Or what about multiple main planeswalkers of the same color like Ajani, and elspeth?

[@samhaskins127]

Great vid & very in depth. Thanks again for the lore. Much appreciated! 😁

[@AiCarbon]

I think vivian would be a good green walker replacement. Seems logical what wizards is doing especially because she has no home go to. All she can do now is protect other worlds, kinda like what the gatewatch was trying to do...? Hah :D

[@kakerlake4468]

I have a theory : in the leak of the boosters we can see a monster that look like skinny and like a horror,so maybe Vivien is coming to ikoria for save the nature from the...PHYREXIANS ! That’s can be good and with that they can bring back the phyrexians and vivien will see for the first time the horror from a world twisted and advanced technogicaly :D (sorry if I have done mistakes, im not english._.)

[@jozzyalthefool9273]

Whatever artifacts Bolas took from Skalla are likely the key to Bolas's backup plan for his return in case of his unlikely defeat (which happened).

[@mackwa]

First things first the first green plainswalker was garuk

[@PawzBrownMTG]

Great info I appreciate your time into the videos

[@catvalentine9633]

This is my theory(which is probably wrong), so I think that Will, and Rowan are going to be the blue, and red alignments, garruk would be the black alignment, vivien, green alignment and maybe Teyo's background, white alignment

[@liminal_entity1331]

I personally think that there are too many green planeswalkers now. I imagined that Vivien was going to replace Garruk, as her base character seems somewhat similar, but then Garruk comes back in Eldraine. I also think that since we are going back to Zendikar (again), Nissa will likely make another appearance there as well. Story-wise, having multiple planeswalkers of the same colour can be a good thing, as it allows for some planeswalkers, like Nissa, to be specific to a certain plane. Before the Gatewatch, Nissa never left Zendikar, except during her Origin story, where she jumped to Lorwyn for a hot minute. In all other sets apart from original Zendikar, Garruk was the green planeswalker, because he had more of a vagabond nature to him. But now we have Vivien as well as Garruk, both of whom are depicted as wanderers. I think it's a little much honestly, but there likely won't ever be a time where more than one mono-green walker is in any given set. As far as Ikoria goes, Vivien is confirmed and it also seems like a place fitting for Kiora, so perhaps the new planeswalker will be black, or possibly black-red or black-blue (or maybe Esper, going on the industrialization of the natural world theme). WotC needs some way to balance out all of the green energy that is seemingly permeating Ikoria, or else players like me that don't really care for big stompy creatures will lose interest in the set very quickly.

[@eldritch.madness]

Vivien, MTG's first pokemon trainer

[@theblueburrow1801]

Yaaaas do a story about what's going on with Nissa!!

[@Gay4MapleSyrup]

I really hope that here are still echoes of bolas in future sets. It would be nice to not truly be rid of him.

[@DarthHao]

She’s looking forward to adding your animals to her collection

[@barronkoll6436]

Nissa and Garruk should hook up, both dislike Liliana, both are green and splashed around the color wheel a tad, I ship 10/10, would probably be a really interesting relationship between two different people of the same color

[@unknownyoutuber2007]

She's more of a Garruk replacement, really...

[@Rucarlos]

Garruk's healed, back to take the mono G big boi mantle. I hope this'll be the last we see of Vivien

[@ZakanaHachihaCBC]

Rubben Delgado IMO she should have died way back in War, along side Kaya since they both had been designed for that story.

[@andricaion9036]

Vivien was printed in core 19, before war of the spark. And with the help of her blew they fought bolas so I don t think that she should die, she s a great new plabeswalker, what do you want 20 years to have only Garruk printed?!?

[@ZakanaHachihaCBC]

Andrica Ion it’s a core set, it’s not story relèvent so they can still have printed Vivian in Core 20. But because she was designed for War of the Spark and to be a walker to fight Bolas, they should have killed her and Kaya off, and a few others too. We have other Green walkers we can use that aren’t Nissa and Garruk.

[@andricaion9036]

@@ZakanaHachihaCBC I know it was a core a set, I just said that she was printed then and how she was supposed to get killed because she partnered with Jace, Jaya and Teferi in that mission as you guys said that is supposing that all of them should have died, furthermore Bolas destroyed her land and It transported in her bow that s how the best archer and one of the greatest story In magic history appeared. In fact that bow right now contains the spirit of Zacama and others big behemoths, how s that not cool and how is better than she has to die, she s literally one of the best planeswalkers ever created.

[@leysonmose]

I love the new style of content very....mrrhexx

[@AetherHub]

Moses Leyson he is an amazing content creator. Love him

[@leysonmose]

@@AetherHub Dont discount your content man its just as good!

[@jesok3761]

@@leysonmose I know this is off topic sorry, but I just really wanted to say how I love your profile picture.

[@TheEvilProfessorMonoCulture]

WotC: Quick, We need a new plane for Vivan Reid, a world with elves, nature at war with machines, and attractive to Nichol Bolas... Mtg Lore: Kaladesh? WotC: hmm.... Skala will do

[@MackAttack-vh1vz]

Great vid !

[@nathanielmetzinger8426]

Give me Garruk the OG green trophy hunter :)

[@gundamcollector77]

What's Happening With Vivien Reid? Me: Who cares?

[@dragonballtalk8527]

To many legendary female cards nowdays

[@gundamcollector77]

@@dragonballtalk8527 Way too many

[@dragonballtalk8527]

@@gundamcollector77 no-one agrees but you I've Ben harassed on Facebook because I said that

[@gundamcollector77]

@@dragonballtalk8527 It's cause the MTG community is extremely toxic and WOTC panders to the woke agenda. Hesne why so many people are leaving magic despite what WOTC is telling you.

[@dragonballtalk8527]

@@gundamcollector77 same reason wolverines is gay now look it up on youtube gay wolverine xman wait to you see the images of the creators

[@rodrigocorreia2020]

Nice vid about Vivien

[@draxthemsklonst]

11:00 what's that lizard pit bull hyena bat bull guy?

[@ChillyJack]

Art from the Ikoria merchandise packaging. The Bundle or Prerelease kit I think. Hasn't been spoiled what it actually is yet as of right now.

[@draxthemsklonst]

@@ChillyJack Probably the "beast" subtype, with a goofy name.

[@ChillyJack]

@@draxthemsklonst Beast Avatar would be cool. I want to build avatar tribal and I need more good ones lol.

[@draxthemsklonst]

@@ChillyJack Incarnation (or avatar, as you said) of *supernatural* instant-evolution would fit the artwork. It reminds me of what would happen when the Horde of Notions is assimilated by the Zerg/Tyranids equivalent analog for MtG (slivers?). Hypothetically, an "avatar chimera beast," to represent the physiological parts being of different (chimera) animals (beast).

[@ChillyJack]

@@draxthemsklonst They mentioned a new "ambitious" mechanic for creatures to get more powerful, so an Avatar of Evolution or something that can activate the mechanic on other creatures would be really cool.

[@ZakanaHachihaCBC]

Personal opinion: Kaya, Vivian and Ajani all should have died in War. Kaya and Vivian because they were literally only designed for the Lord Bolas arc. Ajani because it would have been very fitting for him to make a sacrifice of himself to help bring down Bolas, similar to what Gideon did for Lilliana, since Ajani was the one who clashed with Lord Bolas back on Alara and has a beef with him. So many deaths should have just happened, more then a bunch of nameless walkers, Gideon, Dack and Domri.

[@mikelong2756]

Nicol Bolas, the 4/4 to 6/6 creature that apparently just destroys everything 🤷 a few pantsless goblin tokens could totally thwart his plans lol. Until he puts on his Planeswalker boots then he's basically a God🤔

[@justinblechinger6723]

garruck wildspeaker is the og green Planeswalker

[@Famejayster]

Y'all wildn'. Garruk is golgari now

[@T4N7]

0_o Garruk is the OG green planeswalker

[@maksimschneidmiller4289]

Garruk Will be the new Monogreen Planeswaker :D

[@KomoliRihyoh]

5:29 idk where you got that she went to Ixalan, because Gigantosaurus is not from Ixalan (All Ixalan Dinosaurs have feathers and also there are no dragons on Ixalan. The Gigantosaurus could be from any of the other Dinosaur-inhabited planes like Tarkir, Ravnica, New Phyrexia, etc.)

[@AetherHub]

She went to Ixalan in the short story “unbowed” I used That dinosaur as she is quoted on it.

[@KomoliRihyoh]

@@AetherHub i am offended at myself for having missed an ixalan story starring vivien

[@herolumierelumanite1608]

0:40 Just gonna ignore that bit for now. 12:00 Welp...

[@djs5947]

geruk was the 1st green walker we got as a card

[@TheFilthyCasual]

Daaaaayum, soo good!

[@MaterialObserver3956]

I wonder if Magic is gonna get added to Destiny 2's content now that they have contracts with Assassin's Creed and Final Fantasy.

[@Rucarlos]

Let's discuss if she can be a really be a replacement for the original Green planeswalker Nissa Revane. Garruk: *Am I a joke to you*

[@marcelbehncke71]

@AetherHub , this video is so cool :) i am a fan from Green and a great fan and servant from you my King. Make great videos again :) its very cool :) i like your voice Best wishes your loyal servant Marcel

[@ronmarshall1566]

I thought Nissa and Chandra had the hots for Gideon at one time right

[@DopeyDopes]

replacement for nissa? no, no one else can shake my world other than nissa

[@davidbrasher3595]

It is premature to talk as if Nissa's role in the storyline is over. I imagine she will be the star of the upcoming Zendikar Rising set.

[@KaiTheElusive]

Garruk was before Nissa

[@Madgunner117]

I am guessing the story is going to follow vivien like how theros beyond death followed elsbeth.

[@dittmar104]

Mad Gunner 117 the story will follow kiora it’s her home and her narrative has been building to her returning home with her army of sea monsters and Thassa’s bidet

[@Madgunner117]

@@dittmar104 ooo more big sea monsters

[@dittmar104]

@@Madgunner117 oof my bad I just looked it up and turns out that was speculation

[@dittmar104]

double oof zendikar is the next next set that'll probably focus on kiora

[@MrRaisinBran]

We should not be looking at planeswalkers as "main" for a certain color. That really dumbs down what a planeswalker is. There shouldn't be a "main" per color. That's just lazy. I would love to see both Nissa and Vivien in a story TOGETHER, as they both synergize well.

[@sullieduser6116]

Who's the blue planeswalker known as the wanderer!?

[@jesok3761]

She's white.

[@sullieduser6116]

No i checked the war of the spark list their blue

[@jesok3761]

@@sullieduser6116 gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?action=advanced&name=+[Wanderer]&set=+[%22War%20of%20the%20Spark%22]

[@sullieduser6116]

Wtf just happen i saw the cardlist last night it was blue, i must have been super tired

[@jesok3761]

@@sullieduser6116 meh is all good.

[@streetwitches]

I miss nissa

[@Oberontreetraveler91]

Aether hud garruk was the first green planeswalkers I have some point of another had all copies of him. If u ment first green females planeswalkers I would be fine w that but she isn't bud.

[@AetherHub]

You are right. When I say OG I guess I should more accurately say GW. Nissa has been way more prominent in modern story of MTG

[@Schneider0112]

Um Garruk was a planewalker way way way before Nissa

[@kingginger3335]

Woo!

[@johnnyscifi]

I havent bought a card since war...:(

[@leonboyd2557]

Wait did he call Nissa the original green planeswalker? We're just gonna mouth fuck Garruk?

[@AetherHub]

First: No. Second: that would literally knock all my teeth out. ;)

[@Njzeo]

6 ads in a 14 minute video really messes up the flow of your story telling. :-/

[@pyrotecgames92]

Her and Garruck would be a power couple.

[@TheKensta88]

That would be cool, I ship it lol.

[@pyrotecgames92]

I feel like it would make sense, Vivan would appreciate Garruck primal connection to the wild. And Garruck could truly appreciate her desire to protect the wilds. If anything they should become best friends. Lol

[@chicago928]

Honestly, I don't find Vivian interesting at all. I wanted to when they dropped her, but she failed to catch me. I will give her another chance in this next set, but if she lacks in that one too, I don't think she will ever be able too.

[@HereticalPreist]

First comment also don’t let Vivien become the next Nissa

[@JamesSamson487]

Don't listen to them, they're still drunk from all the whiskey and pickled eggs in their system!!

[@fhijhhjjiiu8257]

Garruk vs Vivian

[@fhijhhjjiiu8257]

Just freed from curse so that plane wold be a great place to start hunting

[@jesok3761]

Garruk, kiora, and vivian protect the wilds of ikoria.

[@jefelofton8679]

I hope we leave Nissa behind. Bring back Garruk

[@coraloceanheart5748]

Nylea would choose her

[@dragonballtalk8527]

To many female legendary creatures now days

[@SoundsOfSushi]

Vivien is a diversity quota planeswalker

[@dac314]

Complete with non-typical hairdo and "I dont need no man" stronk woman attitude.

[@MrEugene112]

Green is getting crowded one of em gotta go! I say adios Nissa you were always kinda lame, especially since you aren't into to bumping pocketbooks anymore :) .

[@mfoltran]

We do not speak of WotS Forsaken. It never happened

[@Tsuna_SoulSilver]

With these many female planeswalkers I thought MTG is a mobile gatcha game.... Wait....

[@andrewfornes5458]

Original planeswalker.. Garruk. Let's not get all White WotC Knights and forget about him... c'mon man.

[@blitzkriegdiscord3366]

I hope they bring back Garruk and finally get rid of Vivien, its a new decade, the snowflake thing is tired

[@2ltsuter447]

first

[@nthnthms1212]

Vivien seems boring. Nissa isnt the original...

[@kyleellis9177]

90% of comments are nissa is not OG. only time i have disliked a video of yours. your leaving false info that will mislead new players. basically your first sentance is wrong, first impressions matter so my first impression is whole video is wrong because if you cant fact check that i doubt you did anything else in video.

[@AetherHub]

Harsh criticism. Not incorrect. It’s certainly not a leap to suggest it’s ALL incorrect because OG referred to post prominent in story rather than actual first. 😇

[@kyleellis9177]

​@@AetherHub I did a poor job seperating me commenting on others and on your video. so many people were commenting Nissa is not OG. so i felt they were feeling like i was from first impression bias and i tried explaining the thought process i was going through; something like "first line wrong? how much research was done? how much else is wrong?". I know you do much research for videos and aside from this one line everything was correct. Major credit for owning your mistake though.

[@TheWerewaa]

Any one remember the dayz when magic used to have compelling story and characterz that didn’t pander to a fraction of a fraction of a minority. and the villainz didn’t suffer from amnesticz because the plot demanded it? Anyone? Also Vess is immortal so good luck with the woke bow Ms Reed.

[@Hapsasa]

Wut?

[@TiredWings8]

Now for the REAL question. Is chandra gonna swirl it up with chocolate vivien or stick with the rather busty vanilla nissa.

[@marcusanthony9322]

Vivien Reid= Woke Nissa