What's in the Deadly MYSTERIOUS BOX in Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic LORE

[@JanPeverell]

I do like that Rakata. An honest fellow. Seems like ~30.000 years have mellowed him out

[@DeathScepter]

well it would mellowed anyone out and think about why they are in that situation.

[@karlrovey]

He's less mellow when you come across him in SWTOR.

[@akissotiriou6009]

@@karlrovey whatcha mean? Where's he at?

[@Treya1991]

@@akissotiriou6009 I think it's the Tatooine planetary arc.

[@akissotiriou6009]

@@Treya1991 oh wait, you mean that giant Rakata Tomb? :o

[@davido.1233]

I really like that one of the riddles is taken directly from the Hobbit!

[@DarkLOREDash]

Me too!

[@PhazonKing]

Same here. :-)

[@jdubb6557]

Bro I've played through this game at least 45+ times and never did this in the game😅 always something new, a reason KOTOR is timeless💯

[@Azriel884]

Man, same!!!! Ive played at least 35 playthroughs, prolly more, and still sooo much im still discovering. I almost hope they dont remake it cause it's going to be a TALL task capturing even part of the originals glory...

[@trevorabc1232]

Yeah I don't remember this part all! Was it cut content?

[@liftnleap9815]

​@@trevorabc1232nope, just did it on the original Xbox

[@gas481]

So lit someone is doing quality lore series for this masterpiece. Maybe do kotor 2

[@DarkLOREDash]

Thank you very much!

[@zechariahdsiler]

I've played this game many times for years and just did this story line the other day and it's amazing. Love the homage to Tolkien. Awesome video.

[@DarkLOREDash]

It's a great Mish Mash of the riddle & the matrix!

[@Mephiles550]

I'll try to explain how I've interpreted "the box": Your consciousness, and with that your very identity, is what is trapped in the box, not the body. Revan's body is still outside the box, albeit either standing comatose or lying on the floor seemingly braindead. The consciousness trapped in the box still has a link to their original host body. The Rakatan, being inside the box for thousands of years, no longer has that body because it died and decayed naturally over time, so his link is cut and he has nothing. Because the box itself is several thousands of years old as well, it's functionality has partially deteriorated, and the Rakatan has become aware of this. It doesn't mean he can just leave, he needs a host body, and that host needs a connection to the box, meaning they opened the box. This is a step up from the original design of the box, which didn't allow any form of mind transferring. This might have been allowed by the box in the very beginning of it's construction, but was under safeguard by the owner. Now there's no owner and the box is deteriorating, the Rakatan prisoner can do it himself. The Rakatan can only leave if he swaps places with another consciousness for their host body, but either because of some strong mental/spiritual connection between host and body that can only be broken by complete forfeit, or because of some gentlemanly gesture, he cannot take their body unless the original host agrees to forfeit it, meaning a competition of the mind is the best way the Rakatan can get it. Several people have opened the box, but they're all lost consciousness/entities in the white void, having gone mad and wandered beyond the point of being found. The void is infinite. It's honestly a fate far worse than death and is pretty fucked up. The prison was supposed to be temporary for most I think, but the Infinite Empire fell and the box was forgotten. I presume nobody was able to speak the Rakatan language except Revan, so only Revan was able to or willing to engage in a competition for freedom. I never played TOR, but I know that the Rakatan has an expanded story explaining how he was a great war leader who rebelled for leadership over the Infinite Empire and lost, that's his basic story.

[@alieosharp3083]

"You have been heavily warned not to open this sinister, strange looking box decorated with skulls." Me: Ooooo look a box. Touch. AHHHHHHHH.

[@RandomPerson-zy5pr]

Theoretically, a hero could take any enemy as a prisoner and order him to open the box. And guy would be free. I wish it was possible in this game.

[@DarkLOREDash]

That'd be crazy

[@elielbarreto1788]

In order to escape, this "new prisoner" would have to be able to speek the alien language and be willing to participate the game. Since this Rakata said he couldn't just take the body of other people without their "permission"

[@maaaaaap]

@@elielbarreto1788 well, they do go to the rakata world later

[@Necroscat]

​@@DarkLOREDash Or it would be TOTALLY cool if there was some talking options that would let you trick Motta the Hutt into opening the box. Maybe telling him "I'd never take $2000 now that I know what's in the box. It amazing!" or "I can't explain what's in the box, you just have to see it yourself." Then when he looks in the box & the guy in it switches bodies with him he could really hate having a Hutt body. "I wanted to get out but I didn't want to be trapped in a disgusting body like this one! I'm starting to think being in the box was better!"

[@thedragonreborn9856]

@@Necroscat I would prefer taking him home and tricking one of the rakata (not the helpful ones) into opening the box

[@111Kinetics]

I honestly find it cool that there's even an option to open the box. The devs could've just made it a boring insta-kill for you being an idiot, lmao, but the fact they made this small environment and wrote all this dialogue just shows this games attention to detail and how amazing the devs were. It wasn't needed yet it SO appreciated! Helps with world building! Nice video, by the way! Very in-depth look into all the dialogue I missed in my own playthroughs! Love the work!

[@MoJosMojo]

Revan could have hidden his mind in the box and popped out countless years in the future when some poor fools gazes into it.

[@sticc.5483]

Some poor kid tells another to do it. He watches him look into it and then he falls. Moments later, he rises like the guy from the “I’ll sit on your face” meme and stares right at the kid

[@qzbnyv]

“You think that’s The Force you’re feeling flow through you right now?” - Darth Morpheus

[@jdubb6557]

🔥🔥🔥🔥 videos bro ever since I got the notification KOTOR I think 1 and 2 are getting released on mobile your vids started popping up they're great man thank you for putting in the work years ago we can still enjoy today😅👍

[@laxstrat]

I like how the Rakatan has a lounge chair in his purgatory

[@Nick-qf7vt]

You forgot to mention that several of the riddles are taken straight from The Hobbit!

[@Necroscat]

It would be TOTALLY cool if there was some talking options that would let you trick Motta the Hutt into opening the box. Maybe telling him "I'd never take $2000 now that I know what's in the box. It amazing!" or "I can't explain what's in the box, you just have to see it yourself." Then when he looks in the box & the guy in it switches bodies with him he could really hate having a Hutt body. "I wanted to get out but I didn't want to be trapped in a disgusting body like this one! I'm starting to think being in the box was better!"

[@Sekulture]

It wouldn't work, I doubt the Hutt can speak Rakatan, and Revan is probably the only one that can due to how he did it originally, so the Hutt would just be trapped inside cursing you and even if one of his cronies opened it, he wouldn't have the knowledge on how to escape. The best you'd get is his body not dead but each time you interact with it a little popup message would explain while the body is breathing the mind is not present or something like that.

[@Necroscat]

@@Sekulture Awww come on...They could move around the canon just a bit to make it work, like anyone in the box could understand what anyone was saying regardless of the language I mean it's not like there's canon for how that box works

[@warlock.420]

I don't know if you still do videos on this, but I am subscribing because I've watched several of your videos on this game the last few days.

[@DarkLOREDash]

Well, thank you! I plan on returning to kotor in 2024 😁

[@DarkSamus100]

Good video Dash. I remember when i first clicked on that box, i didn't expect this would happen. It seems mysterious that the box let someone enter into the box only once (if they manage to get out), and i wonder if the box was also used to transfer minds to different bodies. I wonder what happens when this Rakata gets out when you fail. The box seems to be now used by crime lords like Motta to imprison/get rid of people they don't like. Have a great day/night.

[@DarkLOREDash]

I'd say he parties in a weird human body or tries to kill the crew on the hawk

[@kakitakenzo5013]

One note - Force Persuade should not work on Hutts - they are immune to Mind Tricks;)

[@andreaskaniclides5167]

This is revan we are talking about so maybe he could work a mind trick 🤷‍♂️

[@josejesushernandezbustillo9139]

_Affect Mind_

[@leaaronsanchez]

My favorite game since it's released in 2003. Only place I ever had trouble at was getting into Naga tomb. Those energy pillars, but after 6 tries I finally opened it

[@lasuzzoeagle1]

same. i remember that being very difficult for me as well. that and some of the riddles throughout the game stumped me

[@orclord5719]

One of the best moments in the game. It wasn't part of the main line, could of been completely missed, has great story and lore to it

[@Imanoth]

Nice work. The Forgotten One! There's a continuation of this story on SWTOR's Tattoine. Are you going to cover it as you did with the Promise Land? Anyways 👍

[@DarkLOREDash]

I snap, had no idea - will look into it!

[@karlrovey]

The SWTOR one calls himself "The Imprisoned One."

[@RtRowen]

The guy digging his own grave: "I need this, I did not pay for it, and I am all too knowledgeable about it."

[@thebiss1846]

To this day, I feel like the mysterious box was meant to play a bigger role than just passing it on to a Hutt. I imagined it could've been used on Rakata Prime against The One, allowing him to be imprisoned & then failing the riddle test. Giving a perfect opportunity for the prisoner inside to be freed & punish The One all without having to wipe out all of his followers.

[@datdarnotaku001]

This is awesome because I have played kotor a lot and I never had gotten the quest revolving the "mystery box" (or I have but its been ages and most likely forgotten about it tbh) so this is pretty cool to see and know about so thanks Dark Lore!

[@petarradovic5807]

Tried to do the riddles without looking at the answers on both parties. Instead of a grave I sad a coffin, since you do not make a grave you dig it...but I guess I dug my own grave with that one. And totally missed the mountain, I guessed smoke. So I would have been in for a rough couple of millennia. Damn, what a scary thought.

[@Spiritus_Invictus]

little late to the party but the Riddle part and the riddle about the mountain are easter eggs from Tolkien The Hobbit. you have a standoff in the same way Bilbo has with Gollum. The who wins wont get killed. The mountain riddle is one of the riddle Bilbo and Gollum used in their competition

[@Galejro]

- Whats in the box! WHAT'S IN THE BOX!!! - Only what you take with you.

[@MinNJW2111]

Just out of curiosity... I wonder what happens if you dont enter/do, and dont give it to the hut. Get to the end of the game when you run into his species who talk about him in how he was forgiven I believe it's been a long time the last time I've played this game.

[@jega42]

I was gonna ask that ... I'll let you know ... playing mobile edition rn

[@itsafish1381]

@@jega42 remind me when it happens

[@Xanderlorian]

@@jega42 any update

[@都将为大家死呢0371]

​@@jega42 and?

[@kiana.malcolm]

Give me a couple days and I’ll update the thread

[@CristoKnight]

7:15 Lol, "winkie smack"

[@greyfox68j]

Excellent video Dash! 👍

[@DarkLOREDash]

Ty mate!

[@Jedi_Spartan]

I did this the other day, first time round I delivered it no fuss to Tatooine but when I got back to Korriban I glitched the game and cloned Zallbar (see my Xbox captures on my profile Jedi Spartan 38 for what happened) and second time I checked it out and got super confused and failed. What would a Hutt want with that thing?

[@DarkLOREDash]

Holy shit that's epic

[@joshuagoldman1323]

I mean, it is a pretty sweet prison

[@insaneadem5014]

In much of star wars lore, hutts are known for cruel punishment. Like Jaaba using a sarlac pit. This prison is literally hell as theres no end to the torment really, so a hutt would probably like this

[@alexingram4337]

So when I was younger and playing on my Xbox and did this quest when I exited the box my whole game glitched. The ebon hawk had 2-3 swoop bikes in it and when I would go to exit the Ebon Hawk it would take me to a “level select” allowing me to go back to Taris with all my items/powers. Very satisfying to take out sith with my lightsaber. However anytime you triggered a progression in the plot the game would crash. Glad to finally have some closure on how it happened after all these years

[@dtxspeaks268]

@@alexingram4337 that sounds funny as hell

[@LeoH3L1]

I wonder what would happen if you kept the box up until you land on Rakata, perhaps there are other options it opens up...

[@ChibaMitsurugi19792]

I wonder if I am the only person who think Lurze, the Rakatan, and Mott’s sounded like they were all speaking the same language. I did even when I played through this part back on the X-Box version of the game.

[@dtxspeaks268]

The Rakatan language sounds more Haitian creole or Congolese french, while Lurze and Mott speak huttese, which is Swahili spoken in reverse

[@youvebeenmungaid1470]

That’s too bad I thought the Hut was going to get sucked into the box and you were going to be able to free that guy and keep your word to him

[@bladestar2322]

You don't get any experience points from it, so I don't bother doing it. I admit I looked up the answers before I did it the one time.

[@midgefidget5796]

I was expecting the Hutt to open the box and have his body taken over by your recently discovered friend.

[@margaretcarley811]

It seem like 40,000 years ago It was like seeing 👀 something like the Rome days Love star wars and the good looking guy What more can I say Thank you so much for lore dash

[@qzbnyv]

Rome days? 20x as long as since the Rome days. Or 3x as long as since we’ve had any form of agriculture. Us humans are a tiny blip on the timeline of this planet so far.

[@Atriox2004]

The riddle about the mountain is from Tolkien’s Hobbit book.

[@arielfetters5662]

The box is a deadly lazer...

[@garmdianmelonking5211]

Fun fact the box makes a return in SWTOR in the Jedi consular storyline

[@DarkLOREDash]

Woah! Which planet 🤔

[@Tacid_Krios]

​@@DarkLOREDash I don't believe what you encounter is the same box, but it's possible. You don't meet the Rakatan fellow, but a mystical tart called the "master of questions", and the object is referred to as a Sith Holocron via wookieepedia. It IS in a world of infinite whiteness though, so it's fairly interesting.

[@karlrovey]

​@@Tacid_KriosIt's possible that "The Imprisoned One" from the Tattoine planetary arc is the same Rakata.

[@severaleels3708]

“Throwback to the matrix” lmao Cool video though, I played though this game 3-5 times and never stumbled upon this particular quest.

[@Ducklesworth]

This channel just covers my childhood Im not crying youre crying

[@hotel3667]

The best part of these videos, that when your using the youtube subtitles while aliens are talking. Cracks me up every time. Jin has a donkey, pull up stump jing jing lump in face mohahahahahahahahahah

[@swordknight5015]

I thought it was the only one. That shit made me laugh so hard.

[@stewartmcdonald2144]

i never knew this was in the game, i hope it'll be in the remake

[@travisrassel9978]

I like how if you ask "what happens if I open the box"? No. Never, never open the box!!

[@realghoststories1210]

Just wondering what would happen if after opening the box you keep it and try to give it to the Rakata at the end.

[@skintendowii8426]

how does this only have 3k views

[@krops2331]

So basically the Construct.

[@warlordofbritannia]

What's in the bahhx?!

[@marvinrobinson3719]

The alien language sounds somewhat like Portuguese.

[@Geminias]

I have never opened the box and just realized there was a greats story I missed out on.

[@deiquimera9445]

This rakatan has been imprisoned the same as Gollum has been imprisoned by the Ring, he does not remember his name after a long time, the same as Smeagol does not remember his. An dthe mountain riddle... i should´ve opened this box when i had the opportunity. Great reference

[@emolovetree]

Gonna talk about brotherhood of shadow ?

[@jakei1236911]

I had no idea about this I told the smuggler to beat it when he talked to me.

[@lylemoore3827]

I've played this game so many times and don't think I've ever bothered to open it because I was afraid I wouldn't get paid if I did lol

[@rho_man]

"Save and check" is the way of every true RPG-player...

[@AlrekArinbjorn]

it would be really nice if you could re-arrange your SWKOTOR 1 playlist so that it's in order of making

[@CuteGallifreyian]

Ahh this poor guy and you find out what happens to him when you play SWTOR.

[@Nora-mg7cc]

Keep up the excellent work. 🙃

[@giorgiojorjo]

Hey dash miss ya too much

[@zrevik6117]

Waddup, Dash.

[@DarkLOREDash]

Heya 😁

[@Texansfan254Jeff]

The riddles are from The Hobbit in an exchange between Bilbo and Gollum.

[@declangallagher1448]

I keep hearing Vietnamese whenever a Rodian in that game speaks.

[@antoniokontos5677]

Thank God I dident imagine this thing

[@PurpleLightsaberAlex]

It just occurred to me that it might be better to keep the box for yourself and throw it into a star so that nobody uses it ever again and perhaps bring an end to the imprisonment of the minds inside.

[@travisrassel9978]

Motta the hut asked me if I opened the box. I aid yes.

[@Bonekraka]

Rodian hurts my head lol

[@DarkMario26]

I've never tried looking around inside the box to see if I could find the others that got trapped there. Is it not possible to find them?

[@free_spirit1]

Sadly after a little bit you hit an invisible wall in all directions...

[@sirtarquin6306]

I have some eyesight problems so it's kind of hard for me to read the text at the bottom. it would be great if you could just give a short version of whatever it is the alien saying. That way I can keep up.

[@killingthemood2000]

This was the scariest sidequest I've ever played. Being mentally enslaved for millennia in a white abyss

[@josephbrian4518]

Putting on these videos gives me a fuzzy warm feeling of nostalgia. Are the Kotor games on mobile any good?

[@realburglazofficial2613]

After watching this video I have decided that Revan having an Australian accent is now canon!

[@rho_man]

Just curious did someone bother to check for other victims of the box?

[@ButterDog2056]

im starting to regret never opening that box in the game

[@Tehillim29]

That is a 100 times better Mystery Box than JJ Abrams Mystery Box Crap

[@joshuafrost4417]

I wish there was a way to save the box til the end and free him with the Rakatians

[@joshvolk5832]

Why am i today years old and just learning about this

[@airiannawilliams3181]

What happens if you take it to effectively Rikkata prime, after escaping, perhaps one of the Elders might be able to let the prisoner free?

[@IIIuidn7]

I apologize in advance for being a bit off topic or worse redundant, but you seem to know great details about KOTOR. Do you know what is the deal with the galaxy droid (glitch)?

[@JesusInYourHeart.]

After opening and getting out maybe take it to them rakatas on their planet.

[@jeremiahcarter7840]

There is no option for this

[@10GaugeManiac]

Paprika is a helluva drug

[@realburglazofficial2613]

Nah, this is what happens if you successfully complete the Cinnamon challenge!

[@maccurtis730]

If you only see a bright white light and are not in your body you are not in Heaven you are in the box.

[@daylightsavings7186]

the voice of those little bug looking guys is so pleasing to me

[@User-op3nr]

I'm kind of annoyed the force persuade works on the Hutt

[@Darth_Rhidian]

Oh yeah I forgot to do this quest

[@shadowjudge921]

Has anyone ever tried taking the box to the Rakatan planet?

[@revan2814]

Hmm. What happend to Dreshdae in Kotor 2?

[@vincentmarcellino7183]

Probably destroyed when the Sith there cannibalized each other

[@muspelling]

Has someone said your voice sounds exactly like Carth Onasi's voice?

[@DarkLOREDash]

They have but... I dont want to talk about it

[@justinlast2lastharder749]

Marcellus Wallace's Soul.

[@dixievfd55]

Some of those riddles are from The Hobbit.

[@DIVINEWINDSWORD]

so essentially you could live forever with this box , why was palpatine not all over this thing lol ....as long as you had "donor" bodies to transfer into , you could live forever , by transferring your old self in , and having a follower "sacrifice" a young person to exchange bodies with leaving them in the prison with your old self image ...

[@Tacid_Krios]

Palpatine already had a method to "live forever", he had clone bodies and was able to use a force technique called Essence Transfer to put his soul/mind/essence/etc into a clone body. This is both true for Legends (he's defeated by Luke in a big showdown, I believe it's Dark Empire) and the Disney fanfictions He simply didn't need the box. Though, what you've described could conceivably work for someone who isn't force sensitive.

[@maaaaaap]

21:14 KEPUNA, why is he using twilek word? lol

[@Tadashi2]

Lol...is that...Keanu Reeves?

[@admiralleel6604]

Love the Rakatan Language.

[@thejpkotor]

Did you just use force persuasion on a Hutt?

[@dnaseb9214]

Never herd about this. Its a mod ?

[@alieosharp3083]

Nop, base game.

[@Phasma6969]

Is that the star forge or a cultural symbol on its chest?

[@JeanLucCaptain]

When you ask what's in the box? BRAD PITT should appear out of nowhere lol. edit: You open the Box: Morpheus Appears before you, THIS is the construct, it's our loading program. You have been playing a video game Padawan, a computer simulation of a galaxy far far away a long time ago. edit: HOLY SHIT! The Box IS literally the Matrix! a Prison without walls, without taste sound or smell for the mind??? That IS the matrix! I swear I have never watched this before...

[@shadowthoughts7959]

21:30 Plagiarizing "The Hobbit" novel, are we? XD

[@General_Flores]

The subtitles way too small for anyone else to read?

[@113charlie7]

I never opened it lol