What's inside? Planar IEMs. (featuring KZ PR1 and Kinera SPD) Brief History, theory of operation...

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Hi-Fri Audio

Hi-Fri Audio

Жыл бұрын

Today I share a small portion of the history of micro planar drivers used in IEMs, I talk a little about the lineage, theory of operation, planars newest cousin, and I take apart the KZ PR1 HIFI.
Take a journey with me on this long, overly rambling video.
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#diy #inearmonitor #iem #hifi #hifiaudio #chifi #teardown #whatsinside #planar #earphones #headphones

Пікірлер: 78
@TomTom-gx1sm
@TomTom-gx1sm Жыл бұрын
Very nice to see the insides!
@geneharry
@geneharry Жыл бұрын
After reading your review, I'm going straight to the order!
@tatotosi
@tatotosi 7 ай бұрын
This was very informative, thanks!
@viderethevaccinatorfromhol7536
@viderethevaccinatorfromhol7536 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Thank you so much.
@tey7689
@tey7689 Жыл бұрын
Finally, update video 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
@JtwasLuck
@JtwasLuck Жыл бұрын
This was very insightful, hope to see more! You should open up the Raptgo Hook-X next, it is the only "open back" planar IEM that I am aware of. It also has a PZT driver AND a bone conduction portion so it would very interesting to see those mechanisms up close.
@JeanClaudeVanDabs
@JeanClaudeVanDabs Жыл бұрын
HBB opened up the Hook-X (but didn't fillm it)... it has the same driver as the S12, Timeless, & Wu Zetian.
@Cujobob
@Cujobob 9 ай бұрын
@@JeanClaudeVanDabs he also said the driver in this KZ is nearly identical in one of his videos. He thinks they all come from the same OEM and may be exactly identical instead of being different variants.
@Radugazon
@Radugazon Жыл бұрын
Very interesting ! The secret aspects of these tiny things are not enough dispalyed as you do.
@florencemiller3967
@florencemiller3967 Жыл бұрын
A nice video! Useful to know the internal structure of a planner driver headphone.
@huyhoangdang3754
@huyhoangdang3754 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. Thanks.
@martincorrales4846
@martincorrales4846 Жыл бұрын
Woow bro, it's great that you make videos of this type doing internal revisions to "in ear", fabulous video! I am a consumer of kz, I have the "KZ ZSX TERMINATOR DE 12 DRIVERS" AND "YANYIN CANON". I would love to see your review of the KZ ZSX, greetings from Argentina 🇦🇷🤙
@JaviGomezLozano-jk2wk
@JaviGomezLozano-jk2wk 3 ай бұрын
Zsx Vs canon? 🧐🥺👉👈
@shreyanshvalentino
@shreyanshvalentino Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@garciaclark-ve4jx
@garciaclark-ve4jx Жыл бұрын
thanks for the video.
@zaq9339
@zaq9339 Жыл бұрын
Every chi-fi enthusiast should watch this for their planar iem 101. Better educated consumers help the market grow in the right direction.
@hi-friaudioman
@hi-friaudioman Жыл бұрын
Thank you. 🙏
@JonesBrown-hy8cs
@JonesBrown-hy8cs Жыл бұрын
I bought a pair after watching your KZbin video.
@kostas898997
@kostas898997 Жыл бұрын
How do they sound?
@jimawhitaker
@jimawhitaker 22 күн бұрын
You remind me of the me I used to be. That's the only way you really learn is by disassembling stuff. I started doing that when I was about 2 years old. People use to bring me broken things for me to tear apart as a toddler. The only issue is black boxes eventually disappear...
@LISTEDGames
@LISTEDGames Жыл бұрын
This is fascinating. How do the tri i3 pro drivers work together? which driver do what part of the spectrum? its a really interesting combo, ba , planar and dd , I hope they do work together properly but you let me know Thanks in advance
@valerioamato3761
@valerioamato3761 Жыл бұрын
deserve a double thumb up
@hameedn.b7004
@hameedn.b7004 Жыл бұрын
Neat
@hcho8164
@hcho8164 Жыл бұрын
Thinking out loud, if you scoped an audio time domain signal, I suspect all frequencies coexist in super position, in theory. So where the electrical signal converts to sound pressure depends on the surface's capability to move back and forth. And middle of the diaphragm can move more than the edges. Therefore I suspect that if you put more traces in the middle you will make a bass head happy.
@microwave311
@microwave311 Жыл бұрын
Please stop theorizing. There is much more that goes into it.
@jimawhitaker
@jimawhitaker 22 күн бұрын
I always considered a planar just a linear magnet dynamic speaker. The differences between a planar and a dynamic are far fewer than their similarities.
@hariramv7764
@hariramv7764 Жыл бұрын
This is very interesting...I never thought will watch full 1hr video...but I did. Facinating to see tech inside so small makes big sound which we enjoy. Thanks for destroying drives for knowledge
@tonyerdal2533
@tonyerdal2533 Ай бұрын
Thanks for that! I have a question, I've been looking for true open back iems (on the cheap), but I can't seem to find anything. Any suggestions? Thanks all!
@realaudioreviews
@realaudioreviews Жыл бұрын
Dope video, what are your thoughts on lithium drivers, used by ikko oh5. Seems to be the first of its kind.
@hi-friaudioman
@hi-friaudioman Жыл бұрын
Oh thank you. No this is actually my second time hearing about it, first time my friend mentioned that it must be some composite material as lithium is somewhat toxic and not ideal for deposition? But I haven't looked into them yet. Another interesting dd is in the new moondrop Alice TWS iem. They call it "ultra linear" or something of the sort. There are a lot of interesting drivers coming out but I'm not yet allowed to talk about them.
@realaudioreviews
@realaudioreviews Жыл бұрын
@@hi-friaudioman Yea lithium is a soft material. I have to do more research on it, seems like they used some sort of magnesium housing for it. I don’t buy it being 100% lithium, because if it’s limitations but who knows. One thing to look out for is MEMS technology, you probably heard of it. Seems to be the next big thing if it pans out.
@zhanurdos
@zhanurdos Жыл бұрын
@@hi-friaudioman moondrop wlice is kato driver
@jeeewhyyypheee
@jeeewhyyypheee Жыл бұрын
So does using less magnet but little bigger size or more magnet with smaller size affect to the driver behaveour?
@user-pr2my9sm3x
@user-pr2my9sm3x Жыл бұрын
спасибо за обзор.
@McLOVIN.....
@McLOVIN..... Жыл бұрын
De nada
@ThompsonHarris-ud7dq
@ThompsonHarris-ud7dq Жыл бұрын
I'm more focused on the bass part, well done.
@dixter1652
@dixter1652 Жыл бұрын
interesting... thanks for putting this out ..... the material could actually be chromium instead of silver... silver will corrode.... to make these its the same methods used in semiconductor manufacturing.... at the size of the driver its an easy process for semiconductor tools...
@patipataszon4570
@patipataszon4570 4 ай бұрын
Good this is no KZ Drama
@jasongibson3574
@jasongibson3574 Жыл бұрын
KZ will eventually nail the tuning and take over the $100 market
@hi-friaudioman
@hi-friaudioman Жыл бұрын
I hope so. They seem to love that V shape. Lol
@DipJyotiDeka
@DipJyotiDeka Жыл бұрын
And now we have the pr1 pro
@eduardofs5191
@eduardofs5191 Жыл бұрын
​@@hi-friaudioman kz pr1 pro vs kz zar
@adityasaputratok
@adityasaputratok Жыл бұрын
PR2 !!!
@user-zx8ee8ez4g
@user-zx8ee8ez4g Жыл бұрын
It sounded really as crisp as the Heart Mirror
@ANiCKiN
@ANiCKiN 3 ай бұрын
👍
@illitero
@illitero 24 күн бұрын
Do metalized plastic housings have the same condensation issue as full-metal housings? It bothers the bajeezus outta me to the point where I have to set a timer to make sure I'm not listening for too long to cause obstruction and potential damage.
@RaWActi0N
@RaWActi0N Жыл бұрын
Which IEM has that metal cased, with circular grill planar (the larger one) ?
@hi-friaudioman
@hi-friaudioman Жыл бұрын
It was out of a prototype unit I was sent from a company but I suspect it is being used in the timeless or some other equivalent iem. the bass quality is really good for a planar which is what makes me lean towar timeless but I could be wrong. S12 I've seen inside and I could swear it uses the other rectangle driver but I could be wrong as they were from photos that were not mine.
@RaWActi0N
@RaWActi0N Жыл бұрын
@@hi-friaudioman Thanks for the reply, and for the very informative exposition.
@shreyanshvalentino
@shreyanshvalentino Жыл бұрын
Let us know if and when that prototype makes to market. Would def like that one
@AJGaS
@AJGaS 9 ай бұрын
"Little short video" -over 1 hour long -hehehe. Thank you though, good video!
@cesarcarranza42
@cesarcarranza42 7 ай бұрын
are these better than the as16 pro from KZ suppousedly?
@Sonic_Storm
@Sonic_Storm Жыл бұрын
The new KZ PR2 has wider soundstage but the bass decreased
@Qimchiy
@Qimchiy Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the KZ ZAX is an "open back" IEM.
@chrisvinicombe9947
@chrisvinicombe9947 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the dive into micro planars 😀 I suspect they are using chemical etching with aluminum foil and mylar film for the drivers. As this will be the cheapest and easiest way to mass produce them. They can print several hundered on one sheet of mylar that way at a time. The glossy coating on the front is likely a sealant glue sprayed onto the sheet after etching and initial inspection. Assembly could be automated but I expect it's some poor smuck doing it all by hand.
@jparker818
@jparker818 Жыл бұрын
spot on brother
@hesher.
@hesher. Жыл бұрын
In the item card they say it is silver planar
@Smzxe
@Smzxe Жыл бұрын
is that a real planar driver or just a different shaped dynamic driver in kz?
@hi-friaudioman
@hi-friaudioman Жыл бұрын
Oh no, it is most definitely REAL planar driver. No doubt about it. :-)
@Smzxe
@Smzxe Жыл бұрын
@@hi-friaudioman KZ uses fake drivers that's why I asked they have fooled public with fake non work ba drivers or fake speakers
@alvincaesar-jv6tu
@alvincaesar-jv6tu Жыл бұрын
How do the Moondrop Chu compare to these?
@edi4ever1
@edi4ever1 Жыл бұрын
which one lasts longer, planar or dynamic?
@hi-friaudioman
@hi-friaudioman Жыл бұрын
Planar is more susceptible to damage from debris and moisture, also if there is a flaw in the deposited or etched conductors they could go open circuit with high power, also I'm not sure the conducting material on the dd but it looks like a composite material which may oxidize or corrode with moisture.
@sushiplayzz674
@sushiplayzz674 Жыл бұрын
are the pros have fake vants as well?
@gilangax
@gilangax Жыл бұрын
54:34 😅
@juhan9117
@juhan9117 Жыл бұрын
Hi, where can I reach to purchase iem from you?
@hi-friaudioman
@hi-friaudioman Жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for your interest. you can find me on Facebook under the name Hi Fri.
@jimawhitaker
@jimawhitaker 22 күн бұрын
I'll bet those fingers have been cut a lot! 😜
@shoony_comics
@shoony_comics Жыл бұрын
Is it audeze isine10
@hi-friaudioman
@hi-friaudioman Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think that's the one. Thank you! It's definitely audeze for sure although I'm not sure which model came first.
@shoony_comics
@shoony_comics Жыл бұрын
@@hi-friaudioman yeah, but the tuning tho, is absolute GARBACCIO, they didn't even tried
@matusjurcik6974
@matusjurcik6974 Жыл бұрын
37:25 whose pipi? 😅
@kuuhgle
@kuuhgle Жыл бұрын
You're playing 4D mind chess to say the Kinera driver is not just a dynamic driver with a flat and square membrane lmao
@hi-friaudioman
@hi-friaudioman Жыл бұрын
What dynamic driver has magnets on either side of the diaphragm with no perpendicular voice coil? If anything it's more like a micro-planar driver. Look up the patents if you're able to they're pretty neat. I'll try to show a picture in a later video.
@kuuhgle
@kuuhgle Жыл бұрын
@@hi-friaudioman Membrane is wayyyy too thick for a planar mate. The benefits from a planar stem from the membrane being super light with superlight traces on it. This one has a metal membrane with copper spool glued on. Much closer to a DD, sluggish movement. Its a flat DD with magnets in front
@eduardofs5191
@eduardofs5191 Жыл бұрын
kz pr1 pro vs kz zar
@BPArBATbl
@BPArBATbl 8 ай бұрын
fake open headphones?)
@lesgrossman834
@lesgrossman834 10 ай бұрын
1,5x speed is good enough. Author is kinda slowpoke.
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