What's it Like to Take Flixbus to Canada?

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[@eryngo.urbanism]

The New York City Flixbus station is a marvel of contemporary architecture

[@res887]

That lil parking lot costs over $50 Million Would you rather Megabus stop which is 20 min walk from Penn Station!

[@haweater1555]

Takes minimalism to the max.

[@cyclopsvision6370]

That parking lot is worth more than 100 times in whatever home you live in

[@jeffreysureejamie2547]

Just came across your video… love the intro 😂

[@madelinemarks2875]

speaking from experience, it is the absolute worst place imaginable to be when you miss your transfer. it also astounds me because presumably it would be cheaper to move the lot further to one side of manhattan and then you don't have to spend 40 min of every bus ride each way trying to navigate midtown traffic in a massive bus, but hey, i am no expert

[@ClassyWhale]

I took this in the opposite direction during my Toronto trip. The bus was squeaky clean and the food rule wasn't enforced as someone brought an entire pizza and ate it with their crew. Driver listened to Phil Collins and Canadian talk radio the whole way, idk if he realized it was playing over the speaker but it was interesting to try and sleep through 😂

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

Dang that driver is chill! And Phil's Tarzan soundtrack is chef's kiss

[@johnpatterson4272]

Is that Toronto to NYC direction done overnight as well?

[@ClassyWhale]

@@johnpatterson4272 yes!

[@TheAkumaChan]

I just booked my flight, if I knew this is an option, I would’ve taken this instead

[@c.jarmstrong3111]

That's a Canadian driver right there bud 🇨🇦

[@rupertbare2023]

They carry two drivers as a safety consideration. They're probably unionised, and the labour contract (and/or government regulations and/or company policy) will likely specify the maximum number of continuous driving hours permitted per shift. When I drove long-distance coaches in Western Canada back in the 1980s, our company operated that kind of system. I never drove more than 8-10 hours continuous, unless it couldn't be avoided. 🇨🇦

[@wicky201]

Most of not all Flixbus contractors are non-Union, local charter companies.

[@BusTVChan]

INTERESTING FACT

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

Niagara Falls, Ontario really saw a list of attractions that could bring tourists and said *"Yes."* as if the gorgeous falls wasn't enough. You don't need to explain yourself for wearing a suit on a bus. You're a sophisticated bus connoisseur and the suit only enhances the trip report. It's nice to stop at other rest stops and all but all the cool kids stop at the Jon Bon Jovi Service Area in South Amboy...truly his legacy. To be fair to that Flixbus stop location in NYC, at least it's right by the Moynihan Train Hall so you could get something there. I'm pretty sure that S button is for sound since the button opposite of it is to mute. And a flight between NYC and Toronto actually takes an hour and forty minutes! But not being allowed to have food on a TEN-hour bus ride is just torture.

[@TheTroyc1982]

NFNY used to be the same as NFO but they thought all the tourist stuff was tacky and got rid of it and ended up turning there town into a ghetto where no tourist wants to visit.

[@memesthatmakeyouwannadie3133]

Worst tourist trap I have ever seen. Just, utterly tacky garbage as far as the eye can see. It's like a bad carnival midway.

[@295g295]

@@TheTroyc1982 The geography of NFNY favored developing industry using the land and water-power between Niagara River and Lake Ontario. The geography of NFOnt favored a nice view of the water falls. NFNY (Goat Island) is a state park, not tacky tourist stuff.

[@_Just_Another_Guy]

​@@memesthatmakeyouwannadie3133 Hey don't disrespect the Niagara downtown like that. Not all visitors are going to spend the entire day down by the Falls. And the tiny tourist building at that site doesn't offer much in terms of food variety options. In Niagara downtown you can get a whole range of foods from pizza & burgers to Chinese to fine Italian dining. The giant ferris wheel is also a good spot if you wanna see the entire Niagara area from the sky. The Ripley's Museum is worth a visit to if you've never been in one before or if you like weird stuff.

[@coastaku1954]

@@memesthatmakeyouwannadie3133 Canadian from Toronto here, Niagara Falls is a treasured place in my heart, with so much to see and do. Water going over a cliff gets really really boring so it's good that there is Go-Karts, museums, restaurants, casinos and many other attractions

[@eddieflxible379]

The reason for the 2-drivers is because …legally, a passenger-carrying driver can only drive 10hrs…and the way Flixbus writes the schedules, they turn the buses around when they get to the final destination. On this schedule, one driver probably drives down from Montreal to NYC, and then the other driver will drive NYC Montreal. Keep in mind that unlike Greyhound, Flixbus doesn’t own any buses nor perform their own maintenance. they just simply contract the work to charter/tour bus companies. Also the charter/tour bus company does their own maintenance and make their own rules in terms of passenger etiquette

[@kenw7287]

I'm pretty sure that all of Flixbus's routes out of NYC are contracted to the various Chinatown bus lines. Those bus lines used to have a website for online booking but Flixbus kinda acts as distribution platform for them these days.

[@skiparkcityut]

I’m sure the rest stops are legally required. Doesn’t matter if it’s overnight. Actually I’d want my driver to take a few breaks tbh and not crash to save a few minutes

[@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un]

"What is Scarborough? This place is so bizarre" I was about to say it's bizarre to the point it has a line that's completely different from the rest of the TTC subway system that they're finally getting rid of for a legit subway but of course that's why you're there lol. And here's a list of random Niagara Falls things that made their way to the Middle East: 1. Marineland walruses. The park's keeping of marine mammals is controversial (many belugas and orcas died there), and the park is involved in several lawsuits related to the practice. After an animal abuse settlement with a former trainer who threatened to steal the walruses, Marineland sold their two walruses to a brand-new SeaWorld in Abu Dhabi. 2. A LEGITIMATE PHARAOH MUMMY! Four mummies were bought in the 1850s from grave-robbers for the Niagara Falls Museum. Unknown to anyone for 140 years, one of the mummies at the museum was RAMESSES I! This was discovered after the mummies were sold to Emory University in Atlanta. Ramesses I was returned to Egypt in 2003 3. The Pile-Driver. This drop tower sat atop the former WWE store from 2002 to 2011. When the store closed in 2011, it was sold to the Magic Land Theme Park in Amman, Jordan

[@deaddynamite8568]

Scarborough is the best part of Toronto - From Scarborough Manz

[@kitchin2]

Allison from Orphan Black. And her craft room. And Donnie.

[@MilesinTransit]

Amazing, oddly specific list of fun facts!

[@MrGpButler]

Scarberia to us Canadians. Mike Myers is from there and "Wayne's World" although set in Detroit for the US audience is basically his memories of Scarborough. Also the Bare Naked Ladies are from there..

[@VanishingUnderground]

Great video! Did this trip myself in early February, and I concur with your rating. I believe Flix has a policy of having 2 drivers for overnight runs, so that they can switch if they get tired.

[@kitchin2]

Rest stops are healthy.

[@MilesinTransit]

Gotcha, that makes sense! They did switch once we crossed the border.

[@joermnyc]

It would be interesting if Amtrak did try overnight trains to Canada. Unfortunately stopping in the middle of the night for the border might be really annoying though, so maybe if we did something like Customs pre-clearance in NY, and Toronto (which would mean the train can’t stop anywhere else) it could work.

[@davidwolfhudson]

A few years ago, the US and Canadian governments signed an enhancement to their preclearance agreement to allow for CBP preclearance officers at train stations. However, the wheels of bureaucracy move slowly and, given money is involved, it goes even slower.

[@MilesinTransit]

The train takes long enough in NY that maybe the border crossing could be scheduled at a somewhat reasonable time? You could probably get away with pre-clearance in Toronto, but the train makes too many valuable stops in NY to justify pre-clearance there, I think.

[@davidwolfhudson]

@@MilesinTransit At least as of now, no foreign government has placed their own preclearance officers in the US. I'm not an expert in the bilateral agreement but I believe the CBSA *could* do it but don't really have the resources (or desire to expend resources) for it. The CBP contingent in Canada - who are housed at US Government expense - number in the hundreds. When I was working in Canada, the talk was always about the station in Montreal being the first rail station to get CBP preclearance, which kind of makes sense given that there's not nearly as much between Montreal and the New York border compared to all of the cities and towns in the Golden Horseshoe (no disrespect to St-Bernard de Lacolle). For the reason you said, I doubt that CBSA preclearance into Canada would ever be a viable option, at least the way the technology and the law work presently.

[@global2829]

@@MilesinTransit If the train doesn't stop between the US border and Toronto, then you can just do Canadian customs in Toronto instead of at the border itself (assuming they allow it).

[@paulw.woodring7304]

You must be really young. Almost thirty years ago Amtrak did have an overnight train from DC to Montreal, Trains 60/61, "The Montrealer". I was an Amtrak Lead Service Attendant in that era and worked it off and on for a few years. It mostly had a diner/lounge arrangement for food service, with either microwaved or convection oven prepared meals. One of the few trains to have a "Slumber Coach", a mini-sleeper compartment, cheaper than a full-roomette or bedroom, in addition to a regular 10/6 sleeper. It had fairly good ridership, up until the original route suffered a washout in late Winter 1987, then they had to detour via New London, CT., adding a lot of time. Montreal and VIA were always a pain for Amtrak to deal with in terms of getting good servicing of the train, the cleaning people were absolute thieves, who stole anything of value not under lock and key. It was expensive for Amtrak to pay for using Central station, and Canadian Customs would not get on the train at the border and just do their inspection riding into Montreal, even though nobody was going anywhere else. U. S. Customs would get on on the return trip at the border and do their inspection down to St. Albans, VT. In Spring '95, Amtrak finally had enough and cut back the service to St. Albans and made it the current daylight service, "The Vermonter", using a cab car to run push-pull through reverse running to Palmer, MA either way. Amtrak still serves Montreal in daylight from NYC up the other side of Lake Champlain on "The Adirondack".

[@shauntakata1762]

A bus terminal with no roof, no washrooms, no ticket counter. What a great way to travel.

[@res887]

and that parking lot is worth more than $50 Millions

[@otisreed8799]

The almost scandi minimalist design was something to behold in my opinion.

[@compactcow]

@@res887 according to the nyc department of finance its only worth 3.1 million. pretty cheap.

[@GirtonOramsay]

I've seen better greyhound bus "stations" in rural Florida cities that at least had a dirty shelter to sit in

[@ulfw]

@@res887 and looks like a third world country

[@ivanoffw]

My guess for all of the rest stops on a ten hour drive is for the driver to get a break every few hours. I might be able to drive for 12 hours, but I usually take a stop mid way for fuel in the car and me.

[@mhbbej1]

The best thing about the Flex bus location is its right next to one of the best pizza places in Manhattan Suprema Pizza.

[@kingbradentucky]

Was up there for a couple days this week. Very good pizza and so close to the train station.

[@mhbbej1]

@@kingbradentucky it's amazing that it's been there since the 60s.

[@bjm9071]

Years ago, Megabus was introducing their Philadelphia to Toronto ride and the price was only $10 each way. My friend and I couldn't resist! Very similar to your overnight ride and stop at Customs. We booked an inexpensive hotel room in Toronto and had a cheap and fun weekend in Toronto. Alas, they cut out that route!

[@mentonerodominicano]

What fun video and I loved your intro. I did FlixBus DC to NYC overnight and it was exactly what I wanted: a cheap way to travel overnight and have a some sleep on the way. I remember the seats being comfortable. The only thing that worried me a little was someone taking my bag whenever people got off.

[@MilesinTransit]

Thank you!

[@Mopar-Pioneer]

Those rest stops are probable legally required stops for driver breaks

[@tmntleo]

2 people on overnight buses is very common where I live, it means one of them can sleep whilst the other drives and then they swap over partway through. It's a safety thing to make sure the driver isn't driving tied, prevents mistakes.

[@rechtrecht]

My longest bus journey was around 20 hours from germany to Croatia. We had constant stops, even during the night because we weren't allowed to use the toilet onboard

[@jiecut]

Not in the video but, the Toronto Union Station Bus Terminal is quite nice.

[@Hal10034]

I recently read Toronto referred to as "sideways Chicago." I just wanted to share that.

[@MilesinTransit]

A fellow CityNerd fan? ;)

[@andrewinnj]

Along with Philly, of course.

[@Hal10034]

@@MilesinTransit Oh, yes

[@JohnHill-qo3hb]

Many years ago my mother and I did the trip TO to NYC... the bus must have been on it's last lags, it would wonder to one side of the lane, the driver would crank the steering wheel a full half turn and bus would take about 90 seconds to drift over to the opposite side of the lane, the driver countered that with another half turn of the steering wheel in the opposite direction. I only remember one rest stop, it was a full bus, I think it was 20 min, so of course people lined up for food, one person took a 25 min rest stop and the driver was pulling out of the lot as buddy came running out in a panic yelling at the bus to stop and his partner was screaming at the driver to stop... what an adventure, I was in my teens back then, the trip left me with a strong memory, I'm 70 now.. Oh yes, after the trip was over, I turned to her and simply said, "Never again", short trips of an hour or two are OK.

[@andrewinnj]

You know it's a fancy bus when Miles can break out the suit jacket 🧐🎩

[@ClintonStClair]

Miles Whispering "Bring a Pen" is absolutely HAUNTING.

[@BDavinci06]

I did a similar trip to Toronto on Mega Bus in 2009. It was a mostly daytime trip. It took about twelve hours. We had a rest stop and Syracuse and Buffalo before the custom stop at the border. At the Canadian border it took about at least an hour for everybody to get off the bus, go through Canadian customs, and then re board the bus to Toronto. We didn't get into Toronto bus terminal to at least 12 :45 to 1 o'clock in the morning. I was still able to get to my hotel on the TTC Subway and streetcar to my hotel. Add a fun time, although I didn't have much money up there. On my second trip to Toronto, I went up by train, which was much better. Hopefully by trip number 3, I'll try flying up to Toronto!!

[@NickBurman]

Miles if you want to travel comfortably by overnight bus you need to come to Brazil - they have *sleeper* buses on some routes, with seats that recline down almost until they turn into beds.

[@wicky201]

Mexico as well.

[@laudemar-A.B.6386]

As a Brazilian, I say that Brazil is much more advanced in road transport than Mexico 😎 in fact, the majority of bus routes in Mexico are made in Brazil ​@@wicky201

[@-Cece]

Nice video, and the ad before it was for Tim Horton's, which is a staple for me. And then you passed a Timmie's while on the bus! Always do your Niagara Falls sightseeing from Justin's side - it's honestly just better. Lakeside Park anyone? Like around the 24th of May?? Look for me at the pavilion. My side of the Peace Bridge smells like Cheerios! And yes, we sing both anthems at the hockey games.

[@RobinGreen-ui1nv]

No idea how it is for the Flixbus trips in North America, but here in Europe Flixbus is pretty reliable. The only times the buses were ever late or delayed was due to unforeseen circumstances, such as traffic jams caused by traffic accidents or in the summer months traffic jams caused by tourists trying to escape to their travel destinations. The buses have always been clean, too, if you don’t count the toilet which is pretty much always without water and toilet paper. But oh well, they make frequent enough stops that it doesn’t really matter. The drivers have been nice, save for one time when me and my partner were traveling with one single suitcase between us and it weighed over 25 kg, and the driver made a whole situation out of it.

[@_Just_Another_Guy]

You went past the downtown Toronto area and went all the way to Scarborough? That area used to get the negative rep of being the "dangerous" part of Toronto since a lot of crimes used to happen there. It's cleaned up pretty nicely since more than a decade ago though.

[@MilesinTransit]

I wanted to ride Line 3!

[@Rod-bp8ow]

The bus station as well as the concept of transport and mobility is as near from the places where people reside, work as well as do their errands completed. It is cold at times from one place into another, it is also warm at times, similar to a blanket for different worlds. Its good and exceptional to have the best of the worlds. Continue to grow, footed and most of all as related to Alice. ********IMPORTANT********* since Christopher is Christopher.

[@davidsummers6700]

Gives me big nostalgic feelings for my trips between Philly and Montreal back in 2011-2013. Border process hasn't changed, would recommend the NYC-Montreal Greyhound bus route as a fun video, you get to stop in Albany for an hour, which is really fun.

[@aaronvandam3409]

Seems faster than amtrak to Toronto

[@westregent66]

The opening song is amazing and DON'T EVER change it 😆👌

[@MilesinTransit]

Thank you!!

[@stevesulligan1080]

As a over the road tour bus driver I’m gonna guess the stops are a break for the driver. He can’t use a bathroom while moving. Plus driving overnight driver fatigue can be a issue. A few stops really helps us with drowsiness

[@adamblack6867]

If Biden was the driver he could .

[@jameslashley3970]

The rest stops are also for the driver . The reason they changed drivers is Hours of service .

[@RealConstructor]

For $65 I take the budget airline option. In Europe that is. In the States a budget airline has ticket prices that starts at $100, in Europe €100 is about the max. And a € is almost equal to a $.

[@goldenstarmusic1689]

Definitely interesting to hear your experiences and a great trip report! I took "FlixBus" back in March from Chicago to St Paul, booked a ticket last minute 3 days before the trip, and it was only $52 with tax! Not bad at all, but when I got to the bus in downtown Chicago I was surprised to see they actually contracted the Voigt's bus company, an operator based out of Fridley MN! Even better was the bus was wrapped in this great Minnesota themed livery with no dots, and I had quite a pleasant 8.5 hour journey! Notable differences with the FlixBus that you got, and the route, are that we had one driver, and actual 110V outlets with pretty good seat quality! They didn't recline like on that bus but did the job great, and the buses had on board entertainment screens (that didn't get used) as well as allowing us to eat. There was a single rest stop on the whole journey, at the Wisconsin Dells Kwik Trip, which I think makes for an interesting comparison to the numerous rest stops your route took. Great video, can't wait to see more!

[@paultauriainen]

I think the quality of Flixbus varies, because in each region there is a different operator

[@goldenstarmusic1689]

@@paultauriainen it's definitely interesting to see, Megabus seems to have a similar setup with contacts to Wisconsin Coach Lines, I'm going to be checking that out soon for a $6 round trip to Wisconsin! One noteworthy difference I would like to point out are that the Voigt's bus had a 2-2 seating arrangement but tickets were actually booked in sets of 2-1, so I got two seats to myself.

[@drdewott9154]

Yeah Flixbus can vary quite a bit. Flixbus themselves only own a single bus and thats due to German legislation. All their services are run on contracts by various small bus companies around the world. Flixbus also has some design guidelines for like seat colours, livery, ammenities and what not but in many cases they aren't followed anyway. Still you can at least always count on Flixbus, they're basically the McDonalds of travel at this point

[@goldenstarmusic1689]

@@drdewott9154 that's so interesting! The Voigt's bus I rode on did share some aesthetic similarities with the one in this video, but it also had some FlixBus stickers on the sides with the livery. The McDonald's of travel is an apt comparison, the buses I had seen were at least all on time and clean, and it was cheap.

[@drdewott9154]

@@goldenstarmusic1689 Yeah, the official design guidelines if of course with the green and black livery (it used to have orange touches in the past). Plus the design guidelines had wooden style floors with grey seats with lime green headrests, and green moodlights on the ceiling and floor. If you google pictures of flixbus and scroll down a bit you should see various pics of that kinda stuff.

[@agness6766]

No food on board its bcs usually they are lazy too clean that stuff As someone who travel with flixbus a lot In czech republic is very common bus when you need travel distances more than 100 km Haha, i really LOVE a legroom, some suprising stops (usually most of buses cross czechia from germany, austria etc) and they are cheap af, and i love them (Usually your drives are not czech speakers, which is funny, when some old lady needs help and sometimes that delays are crazyyyyy) Love ya, Miles

[@Canleaf08]

8:12 I visited Niagara from Mississauga with the Greyhound bus in winter 2018 and it was strange to see it all frozen. The ride was rough and worth it. It was like 4 hours each way. Indeed, Niagara Falls is strange place. The American side is more tame and a state park, but the Canadian side has a strange theme park.

[@Bobmcjoepants]

0:08 The car off to the left is a brand new Mercedes Maybach S680 which costs upwards of $265k (USD) before taxes. A coach bus, on average, costs about $300k to $400k to buy. What is my point? Nothing, just thought someone might find that interesting

[@doutorgori327]

1:50 That's the worst sound you can hear when boarding a long haul bus or flight!

[@MilesinTransit]

Thankfully they got pretty quiet as everyone settled in!

[@Foundbyjohndoe]

As someone who ends up in that exact Flixbus lot every two months or so, your experience is pretty much universal to flixbus trips with the notable exceptions.

[@merc340sr]

Agree with you. Overnight bus is not too bad so long as there aren't too many stops...3 is too many for me. Ideally this bus should be an express with 1 customs stop and that's it. That said, the train is longer by about 2 hours, but you can also sleep on the train during the day. I'm more of a train person. It's more comfortable. Flying can be stressful as airports re chaotic these days...

[@RekkidTalk]

You should fly to the little downtown airport in Toronto and take the world's shortest ferry to leave that airport.

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

The Ferry Lina in Töreboda, Sweden is even shorter! Takes just 25 seconds

[@marklittle8805]

You can take the tunnel under the western gap. I don't think they use the ferry much now

[@leonb2637]

It is interesting that Flixbus and other 'discount' scheduled bus operations are on parking lots or along the streets near Penn Station when the Port Authority Bus Terminal (at 8th/9th Ave - 40th-42nd Street) was built in the early 1950's to get the long distance and regional bus services off the streets. By the way, finally a trip with no significant drama. Kinda boring for us, a pleasure for you.

[@Maunico0809]

I’d still ride the Maple Leaf any day (even if the customs process takes 2 hours)

[@Hal10034]

So would I, except that Amtrak lists that trip as 12.5 hours, instead of 10.5 on the bus.

[@Hispandinavian]

I'm using Flixbus in Europe. They've really gone worldwide. It looks better than the Greyhound.

[@sentrygl]

From where I live in the Detroit area, alot of people drive over to Windsor and take via rail to Toronto.

[@The-rp6do]

Low key that’s what I’ve thought doing when I go visit Detroit

[@sentrygl]

@@The-rp6do I've also heard of people combining that with the Windsor tunnel bus across the border

[@MilesinTransit]

That's exactly what I did later on this trip!

[@sentrygl]

@@MilesinTransit Awesome! Hope you also did some Detroit transit videos too. We won't be insulted if you are mocking in them as even transit fans here mock the local service

[@JohnnyT002]

Up until yesterday May 3rd 2023 I didn't know about Flixbus. Thanks for the video. It reminds me of when I would travel with groups during the 3 day weekends to Toronto or Montreal. The bus would leave in the evening and we would arrive early in the morning. 👍🚌🚌🚌🚌.

[@pineapplepizza27]

its so awesome that this channel is sponsored by a sleep mask/ its perfect

[@JohnGuzik]

I would think the rest stops are more for the drivers, especially at night.

[@charleee787]

Love your content and commentary so much ! Thanks for the good vibes

[@MilesinTransit]

Thank you so much!

[@MeaLynk]

st catharines is my hometown and i am so confused why the bus stop is around the corner from the bus terminal my only guess is the bus terminal doesn't allow coach buses to stop there that late when local buses aren't running???? or flixbus avoided it on purpose to save money downtown st catharines is actually a fairly nice place if ur ever in the area outside of passing through

[@MilesinTransit]

Flixbus tends to avoid obvious bus terminals to save money!

[@andrewkowalczyk6114]

The pickup location reminds me of both ends of a Megabus trip from Chicago to Indianapolis in 2015. The Chicago end was just on a low use street a block from Union Station (and in front of the old retail entrances to the then vacant giant old post office building) and the Indy side was on the curb at the Government center. It is actually a good spot to make connections to several local IndyGO bus routes.

[@rebelmouth9349]

If you really want to know what it's like to take Flixbus, you need to get stranded with minimal updates for over 5 hours to ultimately get denied your refunds by their customer support. The gall on them to blow you off for extended periods of time, refuse refunds, and act like they are doing you a favor with a ten dollar voucher is insane. That's the real flixbus experience. Just check their reviews.

[@jakearlow]

i just found ur channel but u r literally my favorite youtuber getting me through this deadline i have please make youtube videos until the heat death of the universe

[@MilesinTransit]

Gosh, thank you so much!!

[@francissager3133]

Interesting video. I've never made the crossing with the bus over to Toronto. It's also interesting that FlixBus is The parent company of Greyhound. Greyhound does operate regular service from the Port authority bus terminal to Toronto. The multiple rest stops may not necessarily be for the convenience of passengers, but for the drivers. A long trip through the night is a hard ride to make behind the wheel. Having driven the route from New York to Buffalo for both Greyhound and New York Trailways I know just how tough that drive is. Who you initially thought was an attendant on the bus was probably a relief driver. Considering the distance driven between New York and Toronto, a single driver may have ran out of hours if they did all of the driving before reaching Toronto. Traditionally, both Greyhound and New York Trailways would have their drivers relieved in Buffalo coming from New York.

[@michaelrmurphy2734]

Of course driving overnight means there is little traffic. You can drive straight through to follow the time and get to the destination on time. Not get stuck in daytime traffic. I think the benches at the reception center were taken away because of COVID. Maybe they will be back soon.

[@johnsamoilis6379]

I used Flixbus as local transit in the Tampa area when traveling from Tampa to St. Pete because there is no local buses on holidays and I needed to get to St. Pete to go to the Rays Baseball game. Fare was $12

[@fenderbender4294]

my dad was watching this video and started laughing at the first 5 seconds :) thanks for another great one, I love the way you blend humor and actual good knowledge

[@MilesinTransit]

Aww, that's amazing to hear! Thank you so much for the kind words!

[@fenderbender4294]

@@MilesinTransit no problem! you deserve em

[@global2829]

Surprised you have to fill out a customs form, since you don't do that if you're driving across the border in your own car.

[@NahidLalji]

Yeah, I found that really odd. I've done Megabus cross border many times and never had to fill out a form.

[@TCORV]

Some people will think Buffalo is part of Canada because it's right next to the border. Awesome trip report/review by the way

[@MilesinTransit]

Thank you!

[@willhazen9507]

Out of all my bus experiences (Flixbus, Barons, Hoosier Ride/Miller, and Greyhound) Flixbus was the best for comfort, reliability, and customer service. The stops always seem to be a bit awkward though (although in Indianapolis it's much easier to connect to city buses from the Flixbus stop versus the stop for all other intercity buses).

[@eyyyyyyyyyyy]

Mr Net gotchu covered

[@quaqamolgreatandmightyskin7312]

Id say the three rest stops are more for the driver than the passenger. You should take a break from driving every two hours. I mean especially at night.

[@np7360]

Your commentary is seriously hilarious! New sub

[@MilesinTransit]

Thank you!!

[@wookie2222]

It is sooo weird seing this. I'm from Germany and took Flixbus back in the time, when they hadn't merged with Meinfernbus and shortly after. Back then, their service was often below average. The wifi was often not working or extremely slow, the busses were late or skipped stops and even if a ride halfway through Germany would cost only around 10 Euro, the busses were sometimes nearly empty, since taking a Flixbus was - and often is - slower than taking a train or going by car. Also, the concept of long distance busses wasn't realy a thing back then in Germany. It is strange to see a company that many had doomed 10 years ago now not only operating all over Europe but also in north america.

[@erik_griswold]

What is the price in Canadian Tire money?

[@wicky201]

Stops? The driver has to stop every 2 hours. All overnight Flixbus trips go with 2 drivers as well.

[@alexvelican658]

Dude that intro was fire!! Also cool video overall!

[@MilesinTransit]

Thanks!

[@JustAnotherPoorSlob]

$65 is cheap, but if you book early Amtrak is only about $130. I think I'd spend double to be on the train (or brave the new LGA and fly)

[@MilesinTransit]

See, I think I'm the opposite - the bus and train for this journey are equal enough experiences to me that double the price is totally not worth it (although I suppose I will have to try the train someday to really prove that!)

[@francissager3133]

The train is a longer trip. You leave Penn Station, then it's on to Yonkers, Croton-Harmon, Poughkeepsie, Rheinbeck, Hudson, Albany, Schenectady, Amsterdam, Utica, Syracuse, Rochester, Buffalo, Niagara Falls, NY, Niagara Falls, ON (crew change from Amtrak to VIA Rail, and Canadian customs) St Catherine's, maybe some other intermediate stops, and Toronto. The bus, if we're talking Greyhound or Trailways, leaves NYC, rest stop in Goldsboro, PA; Scranton, PA (sometimes); Binghamton, NY; Syracuse, Rochester, Batavia, Buffalo, Fort Erie, ON (Canadian customs); and Toronto. The benefit of the bus, ridership may put multiple buses on the same schedule, allowing one or more buses to skip all or most intermediate stops. FlixBus only owns buses through Greyhound. So when you ride a green and orange FlixBus, it's a separate independent company operating under FlixBus branding. It also allows that company to operate direct service, and not make all the stops traditional carriers like Greyhound/Trailways make.

[@DAndyLord]

Those three rest stops were probably for the driver's comfort.

[@amaan-aliladak]

The reason for the crew change is to preserve jobs. All Bus Companies that drive Cross-Border Routes are required to change at the Border. Whether on the bus, driving their designated portion, or swapping at the Border. This is so both countries equally preserve jobs for their people

[@RafaRadityo7]

I took the flixbus from Vancouver to Seattle and there was only one driver

[@amaan-aliladak]

@RafaRadityo7 It all depends on the area. Sometimes there may be only one driver. On specific long-distance routes like Toronto - New York, they have two drivers. Vancouver to Seattle is only 4 hours and is quick, so that's why there's only one driver. But all New York Routes have two drivers who switch at the Canadian/U.S Border

[@robertwhelan9132]

I would LOVE to take Flixbus in the opposite direction. I've seen so much about it

[@lelandunruh7896]

The two longest FlixBus trips I've taken were Zurich to Rome and Venice to Prague. Honestly, as much as an 11-hour bus ride sucks, it isn't all that bad if you have more time than money.

[@MilesinTransit]

Out of curiosity, do European Flixbuses give you rest stops or places to get food?

[@lelandunruh7896]

@@MilesinTransit Yes, but it depends on the route. For example, the Zürich to Rome route the bus had one real decent rest stop. The other stops were very short stops at bus stations to pick-up or drop off, so you could get food but you'd better run.

[@MilesinTransit]

@@lelandunruh7896 Good to know. I've been eyeing a direct Flixbus that runs from Bordeaux to Bucharest (I think it's the longest on the system), but the possibility of not being able to get food for that long is concerning!

[@lelandunruh7896]

@@MilesinTransit I'd bet money that they'll have a 15-minute stop in Austria somewhere (or perhaps they'll know you're hungry in Hungary). In any event I'd bring some snacks, but I think it very likely you'll have an opportunity to grab at least a sandwich and a coke at some point.

[@lelandunruh7896]

Come to think of it, my father and I took a Flixbus from Budapest to Krakow in 2019 and there was a stop in Slovakia where we had enough time to go to a nearby supermarket and get all the snacks, sandwiches, and drinks we needed. So I think that's expected by Central and Eastern Europeans.

[@adnamamedia]

This makes me want to take a bus to Canada! I've never been to Toronto, so maybe that'll be a fun summertime adventure.

[@MilesinTransit]

Toronto is AWESOME!

[@davidfaith116]

The Hotels in Niagara are in the tourist section and nowhere near downtown Niagara Falls proper.

[@kendall216]

He was the relief driver, we are only allowed 10 hours of drive time…

[@Santiago-in1xf]

Weird that they said that about food. I took a FlixBus from NorCal to Socal and back and it was understood and said when we hit the 30min stop to go in and get food. The rest stops I think are for the bus driver as much as the passengers. Driving at night is tiring. Also driving straight could probably make them hit a time limit if y'all got delayed or something(10 hrs straight with no breaks in a day would require a 8 hour break).

[@stevenroshni1228]

Yeah, unlike the passengers, the bus has to stop if the driver needs to use the bathroom. I've been on some 4-5 hour ride where the driver pulled into the rest stop to use the bathroom on the bus.

[@BusTVChan]

I GUESS ILL BRING A CLIPBOARD SO I CAN FILL OUT THAT PAPERWORK

[@trainrover]

don't eff with rest stops...lots of passengers're prone to motion sickness overland...fussing over a pause every 2⅝ hours is much, right ;)

[@averyecklein6242]

I recognise MWRTA catch and the bus in metrowest sucks! I fought for more funding and more bus routes with more frequency.

[@MilesinTransit]

Every time I use it, it feels like it gets worse and worse...

[@rickma6363]

At 6:49 there's a Bell pay phone. Those are a rare! Lol!

[@MilesinTransit]

Are they? I feel like I saw them a lot in Canada!

[@lijius705]

not rare at all

[@emeraldkimble7602]

The New York State thruway goes to both Canadian largest cities Toronto and Montreal

[@rukirgaming]

Never will let that POOR BID down, eh? Neither would I, tbh

[@mitchsterling3266]

You look like one of my best friends I never got to meet that was from xbox 360 live. Used to play halo3 together and mod the game in 2009. Good times. I like deadmau5 and canada so this video suits me . thanks bro

[@koreytobias5255]

hilarious! love your delivery and the classic sitcom intro haha- followed

[@MilesinTransit]

Thanks so much!

[@henning8737]

I like your intro. I'd consider this fare as expensive. Sometimes I'll can catch way cheaper deals, for instance I was traveling from Heidelberg to Berlin roughly the same distance just for 17,99€.

[@MilesinTransit]

Thanks! Honestly travel in Europe is just quite a bit cheaper than in the US, from what I've found - $65 from New York to Toronto is the cheapest fare I'm aware of.

[@ratedpz9461]

Miles may be the only KZbinr where I actually watch the promotions. I just know something strange happens in them, and that’s what all promotions need. What the heck did he do at the end??? I don’t know, I will never know, but it works.

[@MilesinTransit]

Hahaha, I'm so glad you liked it! Next time I do a sponsor segment it'll be a complete song...

[@aliasmarg8ta127]

The rest stops are probably required to give the driver a rest.

[@BusTVChan]

I THINK I WANT TO TAKE FLIXBUS TO CANADA NOW.. FROM NEW YORK

[@injustifiiable]

IIRC the bus itself and the drivers go through a separate custom check - which is why they offload the passengers.

[@MilesinTransit]

Ooh, interesting!

[@mondto]

I appreciate this next instalment of Miles in Transit asmr on an overnight bus

[@ecstasyofgold888]

@6:45 that's what you get with metric water

[@mavadelo]

Would the rest stop be for legal reasons. Driver needing a mandatory break perhaps? It is something I would totally expect in my country, actually the entire EU.

[@MilesinTransit]

Yeah, a lot of people in the comments have said that and I think they're right.

[@JoseTwitterFan]

I took Megabus to Toronto and back in the summer of 2016. Was lucky at the time to pay $15 round-trip. Also, I never had to fill out any forms for some reason when I crossed the border.

[@DanTheCaptain]

I was wondering how Flixbus’s North American operation was compared to its European counterpart. I’ve taken a lot of Flixbuses in Europe and they’re amazing. Really cheap and affordable. Update: I will be taking this route but during the day which will take and extra 3 fucking hours… Wish me luck and send prayers

[@RafaRadityo7]

It depends what you get. Most of not all the bus drivers are flixbus drivers but there's a 50-70% chance that you will get a white charter bus with no flixbus livery. Those buses are crappy but the buses with the flixbus livery are usually more comfortable, better maintained and the seats are better. It also depends on the driver and their customer service skills. Most drivers don't talk a lot and some don't speak English but some are also very friendly

[@maxcat479]

Did the old Greyhound T.O./NYC run back in the 80s...

[@Seyer40]

Do they have Synder's in Canada?

[@MilesinTransit]

I couldn't find any, although I have to admit I didn't look too hard (I just didn't spend enough time in Toronto to need a snack...)

[@tkynerd]

Love love love the theme song! And great trip report. 👍

[@MilesinTransit]

Thank you!!

[@kakumee]

I feel like Flix bus owns bustang and other such buses in Colorado.....😂

[@estiefranks6468]

They need to take rest stops for the drivers to rest. Required by law. I really like your videos 😊

[@MilesinTransit]

Thank you!

[@francissager3133]

Bus driver here, although not the bus driver for this trip. Unlike truckers in the United States, there is no mandatory break for bus drivers. However, that does not mean that bus drivers can stop at their discretion to take a break for the safety of their passengers. For more information, see us regulations 49 CFR part 395.

[@phronsiekeys]

Payphone alert at Canadian immigration site 6:50

[@irtbmtind89]

Nortel Millennium, unironically one of Canada's greatest exports. As much as Bell Canada sucks, they do a very good job of keeping them running, and AFAIK this building was opened years after they stopped making them. I always wonder if they have a warehouse full of new ones that have been sitting there for 20+ years.

[@MilesinTransit]

Canada really likes its payphones - I noticed a ton during my time there!