What's next for the Lakers after Dan Hurley rejected them?: Ep. 30 | Buha's Block

[@scottmoore3043]

By staying he keeps a lighter schedule, less games, more control, less scrutiny, be a bigger local hero and keeps his wife happy! We barely had a chance! No way you can give a coach unproven with pros 8 year deal. 😮

[@greggyamisial1914]

The only answer from Some reporters "is the Lakers messed up" 🙄

[@Illtechnica]

This NEVER smelled right to me. This was a sagacious move by Hurley to leverage a better deal with UCONN. Lakers cupboard is relatively bare. Very few pick options, 2 top 75 players with an expectations of winning now + lack of control and flirting eith the salary cap 2nd apron.

[@The_LA_Unicorn]

A bit embarrassing is an understatement... I would think Rob's job would be in serious jeopardy because the only plan is apparently no plan.

[@abe8824]

serious jeopardy? theres not a GM out there that can replace Rob. we gotta stop thinking a special GM will come and save us, Rob is fine

[@drewcagle]

@@abe8824at the very least we have to start looking at Rob with a much more critical eye. He’s botched 2 HC hirings (Lue, Hurley) and made other mistakes roster building w/ bad process. (Not to say he’s been devoid of good ones). He’s on the clock.

[@Illtechnica]

@abe8824 Well, there is Bob Meyers....

[@icecoldac3]

Jeanie & Rob have a great relationship. Robs job is not in jeopardy. Lakers just feeling the affect of the “Lakers Tax” during their coaching search. Hidden caveat-Woj & Hurley fleeced Lakers. The intention was to never leave UConn just hear what LA has to offer.

[@icecoldac3]

@@IlltechnicaNo my friend lol there isn’t Bob Meyers. Until Jeanie cleans house and alters the way she makes decision Bob MYERS will not take this Lakers job as a Front office executive or GM.

[@manny24lal]

Forget about potential hires, hypothetical trades, or free agency. There’s a dark cloud hovering over the franchise as long as Rob and Jeanie are steering the ship. The team being sold is the real news Laker fans should be praying for

[@appetizerssushi7121]

Cheers 🥂 to that !!!!

[@AkaMiskeen]

Selling the team and replacing pelinka won’t change anything.

[@luislaureano228]

This latest coaching search fumble by the Lakers brass shows yet again that they are rarely all the way IN when targeting a BIG FISH head coach candidate since Jeanie Buss took over the ownership. A "compelling offer" isn't enough when you are trying to convince a guy like Hurley to leave that heavenly situation he's got in UConn, fresh of winning back-2-back NCAA titles with all that control he's got there. It goes beyond the monetary aspects of the offer.

[@dindjarin9063]

He wasn’t coming anyway. His wife wasn’t having it regardless of the money. This was just to get more money from UCONN. He was never going to be the coach of Lakers. Ever.

[@dadliboi]

Simply put, it needed to be a "Godfather-level" offer, and it just wasn't that. They also needed to, at a minimum, clear the Monte Williams threshold, IMHO. They fell short there as well. Had the Lakers met these two conditions and still got turned down, I believe there would be more of a "at least they tried" concensus. Unfortunately, they failed. There's no getting around it.

[@vesnam116]

I'm actually glad this thing with Hurley didn't work out, I don't think it would have ended well. NOT with Bron as haters would like to believe, Bron has a crazy work ethic and would have been good. But most of the guys would have struggled and if Hurley would have come hard on them (and he certainly would as you don't get to change your character traits overnight) there would have been a trouble. I believe he would have lost the locker room, for different reasons than Darvin Ham, but would still have lost it. Another thing, a success in the college basketball doesn't translate just like that into the NBA and it would take Hurley a long time to have a real success, if ever. I think it was a veeery bad idea and on top of it they went publicly with it before sealing the deal, which is now embarrassing and it was totally unnecessary. I hope they go with JJ Redick now. It is a risk, but at least Redick has a chance to be a great coach. For all the other candidates we KNOW from their previous experience they don't stand that chance at all. I don't understand people who would rather take a proven bad record (or at least not good enough) than take a risk. As for being a second choice, if I was that I would just say I'm fine with that, I'll prove in the upcoming period I should have been the first one and that's it. There should not be a big problem about that.

[@dindjarin9063]

Finally someone with some sense. Yeah, I don’t think Dan would have translated well to the NBA. Usually whatever team he joins has a losing record the first 1 or 2 seasons. LA is known for being impatient and the fanbase would be all over him. And yes, definitely would have came down hard on players and these sensitive NBA players would not have taken it well like they used to in the past. He would have lost the locker room. There is a reason you don’t see coaches yelling and screaming Bobby Knight style. Maybe Pop but that’s about it.

[@jayaames31]

Great insight, Jovan! Keep up the great work…

[@lindag6689]

After firing the last 2 coaches and several over the last few yrs, it's not an attractive job. Hurley probably thought no, I'm not signing up for that and messing up what I have in CT.

[@jayaames31]

Additionally, Dan Hurley was not ready to transition to the NBA for whatever reasons. Personally, it’s not all about the 6/70 million. He could have taken the deal to be the Lakers’ head coach now and signed an extension based on his performance.

[@tejagundala1826]

Hurley never wanted the job, it was a good negotiating chip to have as he finalizes his contract with #UCONN. #Lakers and #Lebron want JJ Redick, and it is certainly convenient to entertain Hurley to make it seem that there was an exhaustive coaching search. #Woj also benefits from once again breaking news. It’s a Win Win.

[@ThunderPhant]

I'd argue the other way around in terms of money - IK most people see the difference and think - wow 50M vs. 70M is a huge difference. But there are countless people who view that as - I'm set for life either way. I mean you can retire of just like 2-4 million EASILY and still live a very nice lifestyle. Who's to say Hurley isn't just really happy with his situation at UCONN and wants to go for the threepeat. Plus, it's not like the Lakers just is the best coaching job in the NBA considering how terrible our front office / ownership has been with a lot of their decision making for a while now. If I was Hurley I'd do the same thing.

[@abe8824]

kinda feels like he lakers are keeping their coach search under wraps the whole time, especially with Hurley and will continue until they make a decision, so i doubt Jovan has a secret person telling him stuff. makes no sense that the lakers saw Hurley who just won 2 Championships and think "yea it'll be easy", they 100% have a plan b. Vogel was a plan B and he worked out and dude PLEASE let go of the "lakers missed out on Ty Lue in 2019 and botched the process". he is not a good coach at all, Vogel was the best option

[@greggyamisial1914]

And they didn't miss out. They won a Championship. Lue missed out.

[@antoniorossiz]

It's inexcusable for them to create a situation that tarnishes their reputation and sabotages whoever the next coach is. Like, why?? Their reputation already wasn't good and they just made it worse. How do you operate in a way that allows this to happen? The scary part is that whoever is behind this mess is still steering the ship. It gives me no confidence in what they do next. Btw in terms of years, I think 6 years 100 would've been a Godfather offer - not the Irwin/Fanta reported 8 years 100. UK already offered him 11 per and he turned it down, so I don't get why they'd think anything close to that would be enough. 6 years 100 is a lot but it's basically Rui Hachimura salary, which I think is worth it if you think he's *the* guy.

[@icecoldac3]

No matter what the offer was from Lakers Hurley was never leaving his family, Storrs community and UConn. This was a major swing and a major miss but this is the nature of the business. Only solution is to win without Hurley. That starts by getting a better X’s & Os coach.

[@PatchesNeddy]

Can the Lakers backtrack and offer him more?

[@docjp3]

It’s amazing to me how shocked you all are that JJ was not given the job (at least not yet). I’m sure JJ is a brilliant basketball mind, but when a guy comes up who could implement a system and be a bridge between this era (LBJ) and the next, with a track record of strong player development, why wouldn’t they push everything to the center? JJ has no coaching experience (collegiate or professional). I like JJ and I tune into his podcasts regularly, but it’s just funny that everyone thought JJ was going to get the job when reports have mentioned he hasn’t even been brought in for a formal interview. You don’t wait 4 weeks to get “the guy” if it’s JJ. I wouldn’t be surprised if they continue to explore other options tbh. No offense to JJ.

[@SparkzMSparkzMusik19]

Bro if he don't wanna be a laker F him lakers did a smart move ur not paying a coach more then 100 Mil to a coach that's never won a game in the NBA if it was a extension that's a different story.. let the hunt continue #golakers

[@icecoldac3]

I’m with you on this 1. Hurley & PR team fleeced Lakers. Fawk it move on get a better coach and WIN!!!

[@a.r.9487]

Hurley was never going to coach the Lakers.

[@steve13191]

this it the trickle down effect from having everyone bends to lebron’s narrative for 5 years. lakers and lebron basically said hey wanna come over as the next scapegoat? if it works it’s lebron’s “omg how could he averages 27 at 40years old!!!😍😍😍” if it doesnt work, “college coach cant handle nba superstars”

[@nickwarren7854]

Tell me what the Lakers were before Bron came 🤡

[@robertwilliams-np6wb]

"Dan Hurley was never serious about the Laker Job." Jovan Buha 6-11-2024. Stop right their dude, that is the fact. Dan Hurley with the help from his friend "Woj" played the Lakers. Laker Money never mattered. Coach Dan like his father before him enjoys the Campus environment. Those that can't, teach. Coach Dan would rather have his desk at UConn campus then an industrial park in El Segundo. Lucky day for the Lakers. Coach Dan never been in an NBA locker room. If I'm Pelinka I've already talked to JJ. Lots to do, so little time. Give JJ 3years 30M and tell him to earn it. "How does it feel to be the second/third choice?" answer: Feels good, I just got the greatest job in the NBA.

[@kf4778]

If it was about the money you would’ve heard that Hurley countered their offer and it was turned down by the Lakers. That wasn’t reported. It wasn’t about the money.

[@antoine6760]

You shouldn't have to wait for a counteroffer if you have a really compelling qualifying offer, you're trying to get him to leave all that he's built. You need to blow him out of the water if this is the guy. He is not gonna say "(this) is what it takes to get me to leave UConn"

[@perspectivlogxlakers-fando4423]

I think Jay Wright should be a great candidate for this team.

[@gregnoble8063]

We look at the Lakers as "family" and sometimes family does dumb things at Thanksgiving and you're still going to be there together next year. One thing is clear. There are too many voices/agendas in the FO who are not qualified to be there. Dr Buss would never offer coach K 8m and then 20 years later offer Hurley 11m and expect he'd take it. Hiring Hurley was a fresh idea that didn't fit the Lakers MO so something does smell fishy. And I'd be happy to take half of Consultant "K's" fee to recommend Hurley for a low ball offer that he'd never accept. And get rid of the Rambii!

[@fattony9227]

The Lakers reportedly only had a "get to know you" sit down with JJ ReDick but no in depth interview. Apparently, JJ forgot to bring his "cue cards" with him!

[@tylerk4641]

It's upsetting forget him deciding to stay in uconn. The media and everyone clowning us and saying it's a circus. All the work we did the past 2 seasons of looking well run and being respectable essentially out the window. Ngl you gotta wonder if you decide to let Bron walk and consider trading AD at this point and just starting fresh because what the Lakers want the next coach to be able to do doesn't align with Lebron and AD on roster. As for coaches I'm heavily pursuing guys like David Adelman and Chris Quinn and giving them a 6-8 year offer if we decide on picking them. Want the next coach to lead us into the new era and also be someone that can develop players and have a great system doing so which both of those guys mentioned have. I'd also look into other top tier college coaches.

[@JC-ig4xy]

Why do you are what the media says?

[@waynemyrie57]

At this point the fact people inside the lakers building are conflicted on what is next is concerning. Essentially this might be a rushed decision

[@kf4778]

Hurley not ready for the big stage. LA lights too bright. 🙃

[@okeythegoat2332]

Yep 😂

[@PatchesNeddy]

Maybe he's just smart.

[@icecoldac3]

He’s more than ready but this was just a cat and mouse game. Moving forward Woj & Hurley should be in the 💩 book.

[@DripSirius]

@@PatchesNeddyhe’s smart to avoid lebron 😂

[@greggyamisial1914]

There is a 3rd option, that you skip. He was interested but liked the job he had. It happens all the time. How does that have to make the Lakers a loser. He was already talking to UCONN ha options and he chose.

[@jovanbuha]

Certainly possible. There's just a lot with this situation that never passed the smell test to me, especially with him going on this giant media tour afterward.

[@et90631]

Just found out his son is on UConn

[@icecoldac3]

Something Lakers knew prior to offering him a contract.

[@ericpeters0n]

The clowncar front office frequently makes it challenging to root for this team.

[@icecoldac3]

The only way Lakers bounce back is by winning! 💯 To be able to WIN with any roster… you need a philosophical X’s & O’s coach (Lebron & AD respects) with a solid coaching staff of veterans and player development coaches.

[@valerievilla5862]

Disappointed, Hurley would have been huge for the lakers franchise .

[@perspectivlogxlakers-fando4423]

Why don’t the Lakers look into Jay Wright?

[@michaelslaughter54]

My guess is reddick said no thanks. Then the Hurley stuff started.

[@kenjiang21]

i refuse to believe that if they offered like 6year 80-85million he will turn that down. that is a great offer and nothing for the lakers annually. an extra $3million? they are being stingy

[@ProfessorTechNerd]

Taxes in Connecticut are like one percent less please

[@sagarputcha4323]

All attempts by Rob Pelinka this time are falling by the wayside. Dan Hurley rejected the offer for HC, and their trade attempts for Lauri Markannen are not gaining traction.

[@dindjarin9063]

Guys, let’s relax. Dan was NEVER going to be the coach of the lakers regardless of his offer. He is the type of guy that needs approval from his wife and she was not having it. They are east coast people and don’t want to move to basically another world. This was only to get a better offer from UCONN. Nothing more. We have to stop being spoiled and throwing tantrums. It’s not like this was Eric Spoelstra or someone like that this is a college level coach.

[@zingisamahlasela]

In my opinion, JJ was always going to be the next Lakers coach. I think Hurley and Pelinka have agreed that he will take the job if Redick doesn’t work out. It also gives his family time to make arrangements for a move to the west coast (if it’s a go). What do you think Jovan?

[@AgnusDeiGloria]

Boys we may be officially cooked

[@LeGoatJames111]

Nope. Same thing was said before they got Frank Vogel and what happened? Championship. Have that same energy when the Lakers win the championship next year

[@manideepkondeti9192]

@@LeGoatJames111 Its been 5 years brah

[@LeGoatJames111]

@@manideepkondeti9192 doesn’t matter banner number 18 is on the way

[@mescudi971]

@@LeGoatJames111LA going to be sick this year I can just feel it 💯

[@Neotidus]

Why not go for buddy hurly or dan margle

[@JC-ig4xy]

I am amazed by the "this is so embarrassing for the Lakers" comments. There's nothing embarrassing about it. Hurley didn't want to take a leap of faith into the NBA simply because he wasn't ready to be an NBA coach, period. The media is making it a big deal, because that's what gets them ratings and a few insecure writers like Plaschke thinks it's the end of the world. JJ Reddick is a grown man, he can handle it and I'm sure he's smart enough to accept the fact that Dan Hurley is a tried and true coach who knows how to bring up the young guys and might be beneficial to the Lakers future. But please, to make it more than it is, give me a break.

[@notorious_H.A.N]

Is it palinka reevaluating the candidates? Or is it the candidates reevaluating the lakers? I’ll say this…. If Woj was reporting that the lakers are prepared to offer Hurley up to 100million, why would palinka offer 70million? Makes zero sense and really makes you question if palinka and the lakers front office have any self-awareness.

[@nickwarren7854]

Just bring back vogel at this point with rondo and handy as assistants or get adelman or sam cassell

[@kf4778]

Hey Lakers fans! Ty Lue has won absolutely NOTHING with the Clippers. Stop it.

[@Jackson-sd5iq]

The lakers are such a dumpster fire haha

[@pamelagallien3008]

A lot of unanswered questions. I want an investigation. This whole thing seems fishy. Did we get played?

[@icecoldac3]

Played like the hottest game on the market. Lakers have to hit a home run on this coaching hire.

[@Digital_Snowflake]

They should've offered 6 years for 100 million.

[@fearlesskingdom4051]

You guys are acting like you got rejected by a prime Phil Jackson. You guys have to relax Hurely ain’t even Steve Kerr level.

[@realtingdis9099]

NOBODY wants to deal with KLUTCH😂😂😂

[@federicoperezpablo1314]

I mean I can of get it a meeting with pelinka and Ginny maybe the most difutional duo that has led a franchise, and then AD and LBJ weren't part of the meeting???? I feel that he didn't felt lake he was trust

[@luffy.condoriano]

Jovan BBBUUUHHAAAAA!!!!! BBBBBBUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

[@scottmoore3043]

Yup, when wear a crown they want to tear you down! Laker life, only lovers or haters and our ups & downs makes news go! 😮

[@kf4778]

How was JJ the front runner when he hasn’t even had a formal meeting yet!? Stop the 🧢

[@LeGoatJames111]

Frank Vogel is more likely than him. He deserves another chance

[@vesnam116]

Can you learn to behave ??? This is not a Stephen A who screems on his show or some other media... figure of that kind. Jovan is a very professional journalist, it's rude to use that kind of language here. If I was Jovan I would have blocked you immediately for your poor manners.

[@danleftwich5911]

"Talking with people inside and outside the organization . . . ." If you are not talking with Rob Pelinka, you don't know what the plan was or is (see Chams). I know that drives podcasters crazy, but don't paint the Lakers' ownership and front office as bumbling idiots. They took a big swing and missed. That does not make it a botched coaching selection process. Ty Lue hasn't won with the Clippers. The coaching pool in the league is not inspiring. That is why they looked outside the box.

[@nnam2397]

I think JJ was the first choice they just saw the backlash and had to act like they wanted someone else first. Now if they hire JJ or someone else they can say he wasn’t their first choice.

[@vesnam116]

And that like sounds cool ????? 😵 I don't think so.

[@zingisamahlasela]

It will be interesting to see what y’all will be saying when the Lakers are successful with JJ Redick next season. Don’t back track.

[@user-zu4jz1hx2w]

The big problem is Pelinka,Lebron’s ego and jeanie buss is like u bus station.Honestly and Dan is scared to coach a NBA team.Dan Hurley used Lakers for his personal incomes which now he makes a double of what he was earning .If Lakers don’t fire Pelinka and get rid of Lebron they’ll be joke for next year.😮😮😮

[@nickwarren7854]

Lakers are a lottery team without Bron

[@appetizerssushi7121]

Jeanie needs to sell the team, she doesn’t care about the Lakers. So much so that she couldn’t even edit the Kobe statue properly. Bron and AD need to leave and let her continue to run the franchise into the ground.

[@robs4491]

From now on, Rob needs to seal all leaks and start hiring quietly to avoid extended media coverage of the recruitment process. They just need to hire a low key coach who will grind not necessarily popular.

[@lucasanfilippo5370]

As Nick Wright said, here there is some WWE element of the story, which has been a fake story since the beginning. I do not know Which side was fake of the 2, or maybe both, but I didnt believe since the beginning.. and until the insiders believe and eat everything the main characters give to them, we Will continue to waste our time around these unrealistic news..

[@lotabigs4458]

Sounds like dinosaur Bron still runs this joint. Rightfully so.

[@icecoldac3]

What makes it sound that way??? A lot of coaches can’t handle the pressure of coaching someone who’s smarter than them from a basketball perspective.

[@indy6976]

He's 40 lol good team building

[@icecoldac3]

@@indy6976 true…. but name a front office who wouldn’t sign him for ticket sales, merchandise and tv revenue.

[@spoooky21]

This sounds like the Lakers broke up with their girlfriend thinking a new/hot interest was also leaving their partner and as it turns out they were just using the Lakers to cause jealousy lol

[@vesnam116]

Good point! 😂😂😂

[@thedragonarmy4700]

Lakers are a broke ass franchise. You needed to overpay and they couldn’t or wouldn’t do it. You think Steve Balmer wouldn’t have got this done?😂😂😂 if they were only going to land him with a great offer then why wouldn’t they? He’s going for a 3peat you need to entice him! After taxes that’s basically the same money lol.

[@jebbiemetta8256]

Hurley used the Lakers as leverage at a great cost to the Lakers. Embarassing, waste of time and made whoever Lakers get as coach feel like second choice. 😊

[@michaelslaughter54]

I think the problem is pelinka.

[@proudlakerfan]

According to East Coast people who know the Hurley family, the wife wears the pants in the family. She's from the East Coast and doesn't wanna move out West. Happy wife, happy life. Plus, Dan Hurley's dad is involved with his coaching and he definitely isn't moving out West due to his old age. This wasn't about the money. The Lakers swung for the fences but missed. But at least, they tried. Now media people like Jovan, wanna shame them for it. They would've shamed the Lakers too if the Lakers didn't think big, by the way.

[@vesnam116]

The Lakers made a big mistake by going public with their pursuit for Hurley, they should just have kept quiet until they hired whoever they end up hiring. This was embarrassing for the Lakers and totally unnecessary. Should have just kept quiet and came out with their hire eventually, like Phoenix did.

[@nickwarren7854]

He just can't handle the bright lights of La seems like the wife is the man of the family

[@proudlakerfan]

@@vesnam116 this leak came from Woj who is close to the Hurley family since he wrote a book about them. The Lakers did not leak this. It was all Woj and Hurley.

[@Mikebarra11]

Dan Hurley and Woj played the lakers!! Pretty simple! It’s bs , WOJ looks good cause he had sources for being close to Dan, and Dan looks good cause now his price went up for his UConn extension. BS

[@gregnoble8063]

Yeah I think WOJ was desperate to become relevant after years of Shams body blows so he let himself get pulled into this charade.

[@ytdgreat]

its billy joel's fault

[@bsabsa6996]

The best respond from fans is to demand the ticket to be discounted by 60% due to the franchise is dirt cheap and the ticket must be dirt cheap too;.

[@williammontano7863]

Lakers got played. LA Leverage. 😅

[@franchise98bjn]

Haven’t seen Vogel on the list. We are here 😭

[@user-gh3hm4me4k]

Hurley did what is best for his family -the long and short of it,move on get another coach ,damn the news is beating this into the ground

[@franchise98bjn]

The lakers are the laughingstock of the league. Jeanie Buss sell the f’n team

[@_WEsTWooD]

Rondoooooooooooooooooooo

[@LAKERSRISE]

First

[@craigosterberg5045]

Back to drawing board.

[@ShaunC29]

LOL 👍

[@proudlakerfan]

I can see the schadenfreude on Jovan's face in this video. The Athletic getting burned by Woj's bombshell of the Hurley courtship really hurt The Athletic's feelings. They keep pushing for Redick and they can't let it go.

[@vesnam116]

Woj's bombshell burned in the end. He seems far from being happy explaining what has eventually happened. The Athletic is good.

[@luisortiz7605]

Kupal si hurley Hindi Lang nman pang America ang Lakers dito SA pilipinas maraming die hard fans ang lakers.dpat kinonsidera mga fans bago tanggihan ang offer ng Lakers

[@a.r.9487]

The Lakers should hire Borrego and Rondo. The two of them would make a great coaching team.

[@LeGoatJames111]

Frank Vogel

[@a.r.9487]

@@LeGoatJames111 Vogel would work well with Borrego and Rondo.

[@michaelslaughter54]

Meh.

[@dobz746]

The Lakers did not offered enough period. Hurley already has great family ties in that area along w/ getting a 3-peat. In order to poach Hurley, they really got to offer a very significant one that he could hardly refuse like at least $14-15M for year for 7-8 yrs. And of course plus other incentives like subsidized home in LA, incentives and of course personnel power.

[@toyo86]

It was a low ball...

[@Theinsideoutsider]

I guess its also possible that he was torn and made a decision to stay where the grass was already green? Why make this more sensational? Ahhh thats what the media does lol

[@realtingdis9099]

The fact is u people were blinded by ur fake made for television “bubble championship”. That was not a championship team. Which made ur expectations unrealistic. Ps u know how I know it wasn’t a championship caliber team? The lakers told me when they promptly blew that team up after winning 😂.

[@user-zu4jz1hx2w]

The big problem is Pelinka,Lebron’s ego and jeanie buss is like u bus station.Honestly and Dan is scared to coach a NBA team.Dan Hurley used Lakers for his personal incomes which now he makes a double of what he was earning .If Lakers don’t fire Pelinka and get rid of Lebron they’ll be joke for next year.😮😮😮