What's the best Pedal System for Road Cycling? - BikeFitTuesdays

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4 жыл бұрын

Bike Fit Tuesdays is back. Shimano, LOOK, Speedplay... What's the best pedal system for road cycling? Thanks to @bikefitjames and Bicycle in Richmond for hosting.
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@KissTheGreat
@KissTheGreat 3 жыл бұрын
MTB SPD for me! First type of proper pedal I’ve tried, but the dual sidedness is best for me given how many lights I come against! Easy to get in and out of without looking, and the shoes are useful!
@kerbodynamicx472
@kerbodynamicx472 Жыл бұрын
What if you just use flat pedals if you are gonna get off often? and clipless pedals for long rides or rides in the rain. Personally I had no problem with flat pedals except in the rain, where the pedal becomes slippery and cause me to fall off when standing up and putting power.
@draugmithrin
@draugmithrin Жыл бұрын
@@kerbodynamicx472 Pedals with pins like the DMR V8 are grippy.
@KNURKonesur
@KNURKonesur Жыл бұрын
Some people don't want to have multiple bikes and/or multiple pedal solutions and swapping them around between rides. I get the point of double sided SPDs, you get the flexibility of both and can use one bike for more thing without constantly fiddling with it.
@user-cx2bk6pm2f
@user-cx2bk6pm2f Жыл бұрын
Ditto... MTB SPD. You can actually walk normally in these shoes!
@polendri4812
@polendri4812 10 ай бұрын
​@@kerbodynamicx472 You can get single-sided SPD pedals (e.g. Shimano PD-EH500), where the other side is flat. Great if you use the same bike both for long rides with cycling shoes and short hops with street shoes, at the cost of needing to fiddle with finding the correct side of the pedal.
@Jim-ub9qy
@Jim-ub9qy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Francis! I just love listening to James talk bike stuff. I always learn something and really enjoy his forthright comments. Very knowledgeable guy. This is by far one of my favorite KZbin channels.
@altafidelidad2004
@altafidelidad2004 2 жыл бұрын
After a motorcycle accident recovery I'm starting in the bicycle world and your videos are the best I've found in KZbin, very professional and well explained. Thank you very much. Greetings from Mexico!!
@stuartdryer1352
@stuartdryer1352 4 жыл бұрын
I am thankful for your earlier advice on footbeds. I am glad you will do this series. It's important information.
@alexanderwendelbo1447
@alexanderwendelbo1447 4 жыл бұрын
Nice thoughts on the speedplay! Thanks! Looking forward to seeing the series grow
@grahamwynde1176
@grahamwynde1176 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid and useful to have James’s candour - easy for me to say perhaps as I’m a Shimano SPD SL user. Significantly and personally I’ve a serious chronic knee injury/damage (hit by a car +40 years ago) but with these pedals well set up and knowing a few off bike rehab exercises (when necessary) I’ve had no truly serious problems over the last 10 years or so which doesn’t seem bad for a relatively old, relatively over weight rider like me.
@johnjursic3582
@johnjursic3582 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great info! Your excellent insight has definitely made my pedal and shoe selection a breeze. I already have the Dura Ace SPD-SL. Topping it off with Lake shoes has been a fantastic pairing. Thanks guys!
@waisinglee1509
@waisinglee1509 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you guys back! Yay for Bike Fit Tuesdays! I am actually going to move over to a flat pedal system but I am not a roadie per se.
@michaelanderson6764
@michaelanderson6764 3 жыл бұрын
Another extremely well-done and helpful video guys. Thank you!
@joshlock925
@joshlock925 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect video for right now actually. My bike was stolen along with my shimano m530 pedals. With a new gravel bike on the horizon I was considering moving to the m520 of 40's so this has given me some good food for thought in regards to contact etc. Cheers chaps. Good to see you back at it francis loved the Vietnam series
@sammiddleton5261
@sammiddleton5261 4 жыл бұрын
Loving bike fit Tuesday’s content. Keep up the good work guys 👍
@karl1120
@karl1120 2 жыл бұрын
I recently switched from Dura Ace pedals w/ RC901 shoes to XTR pedals w/ XC901 shoes and love the feel. The contact patch is only small if your shoe is not adequately stiff enough, and at 196cm and 95kg, I need the stiffest everything, it seems. But the shoe interfaces perfectly with the pedal and feels exactly like a road pedal, albeit with an altogether heavier system. Great videos Francis!
@glbernini0
@glbernini0 4 жыл бұрын
I've been riding Crank Bros Candy Ti for 8 years on my road bike & love them. Can't beat shoes you can walk in!
@JSC131
@JSC131 4 жыл бұрын
Thouroghly enjoyable thankyou James for explaining pedals keep um coming Francis brilliant.
@50sma17
@50sma17 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video! I've bought the Shimano SPD for my new road bike and a pair of Specialised shoes. I'm a new rider and I need to say the combo fits like a glove! I'm riding on all kinds of surfaces across UK. No complaints so far apart from the fact that they were a bit hard to clip on in the beginning. I've adjusted them(+/-) and sprayed a bit of GT85. Perfect now!
@gethinap
@gethinap 4 жыл бұрын
Quite pleased with James' Shimano M540 SPD recommendation. I personally bought mine because you only need a spanner to service them and not a specific tool.
@ariffau
@ariffau 4 жыл бұрын
Great content. Very informative. Absolutely love it!
@dominic8055
@dominic8055 4 жыл бұрын
Good to have BikeFitTuesdays (not on a Tuesday) back! I hope that you will discuss the topic of placement of the gear shifter (hoods). I struggled myself to set them up correctly. Because the position interact a lot with the position and shape of your handlebars. I am a long small ride and ride a 40 cm Compact (Zipp) handlebar I moved my hoods in a bit in to get more comfort in my hand position on long rides. If I place my hoods straight on the length of the handlebars I get a Twinkle in my hands after 3 hours+ rides. I know this could mean many things but replace the hoods inwards seems the only thing that helps. I see lots of people with a strange position of their hoods. Hope you can help them! Keep up the video’s Francis, best bike video’s on the internet!
@scottmcrobb6937
@scottmcrobb6937 4 жыл бұрын
I use Shimano SPD purely because most of my cycling is commuting these days and a lot walking to and from the bike shed. Only have one bike and can't be arsed swapping pedals all the time so it made sense.
@johndef5075
@johndef5075 4 жыл бұрын
Same set-up. I can ride any shoe with any bike.
@chocolate101203
@chocolate101203 4 жыл бұрын
Loving the content! I use crankbrother candy mtb pedals on both my road and fixed gear bikes. Love them! One of the issues brought up in the previous video was not being able to use external wedges on mtb shoes. I was actually able to find some for mine and they work great.
@leedarwell
@leedarwell 4 жыл бұрын
As a heavy rider. I find Speedplay great. No problems with durability and loads of adjustability. Allows the foot to move around so reduces any problems with knees etc. High recommended.
@adammillsindustries.
@adammillsindustries. Жыл бұрын
What dry lube do you put on the springs? We shouldn’t have to lube a cleat system.
@austinpowers1044
@austinpowers1044 4 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!! Love it!!!! Bike Fit James is the man!!!! If you are ever in the states I would love to get a bike fit!!!!
@brettccrmstrategy
@brettccrmstrategy 4 жыл бұрын
As always. Great content. Great information.
@irodeabikeonce7069
@irodeabikeonce7069 4 жыл бұрын
I've been following James on IG for ages, so glad I just stumbled upon your KZbin!
@Toysrme
@Toysrme 4 жыл бұрын
Shimano pd-m540 on my road bike. Love’em!
@tylerlougheed569
@tylerlougheed569 4 жыл бұрын
I ride Time pedals and I think the float sensation is fantastic. I tried look Keo and for me the float felt odd and unnatural - with look/spd the pivot is at your toes so all the really moves is your heel in an arc whereas with Time the float pivot is directly under the ball of your foot. Having ridden Time for 15+ years, I guess that's just what feels normal to me now.
@Chrisb286
@Chrisb286 4 жыл бұрын
Pedals explained in 11 minutes, love it. Welcome back Bike Fit Tuesday, we have missed you.
@richgotti1719
@richgotti1719 3 жыл бұрын
Great content with excellent explanations!!!
@furyl1_neverz91
@furyl1_neverz91 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the information about the variety pedal system Currently on a pair of kinda broke time pedal, love em and now I'm just gonna wait for the Shimano sale..
@avramrosner7685
@avramrosner7685 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Will change out of my Speedplay hot spot devices today !
@ericrickert3045
@ericrickert3045 Жыл бұрын
I agree about Shimano. My first pedal system was Shimano 105 that I bought about 14 years ago, and still have them. As long as I keep the cleats adjusted all the way back on my shoes, I am golden.
@MsFrogster1
@MsFrogster1 4 жыл бұрын
James Knowledge and Simplicity on how he explains it hands down the best. More of James. Best wishes for Xmas to you all 🍻🇭🇲🎁🎊🥳
@sandgroper1970
@sandgroper1970 4 жыл бұрын
I started out with Look Keo 2, and rode with those for several years. Then I swapped to Speedplay, absolutely love them, especially the double sided entry. I am a heavier rider but I probably don't put out massive amounts of power. Never have had any problems with them.
@JoSantino147
@JoSantino147 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like my SPD were the absolute perfect choice for me as a rider. So satisfying to know! Thank you guys!!
@stevedong5117
@stevedong5117 3 жыл бұрын
Check out the latest ES600 pedal, they are designed specifically for road riders with SPDs. They are as light as road pedals and provides an extra surface for support, also it has super low profile for aero dynamics (not very helpful though).
@christian_traxler
@christian_traxler 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevedong5117 I use them too and I'll stick to them. Great pedals!
@romube
@romube 4 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, keep on going! I am missing the PD-ES600 stile Pedals in the line up. I am using these and like them very much.
@walcottav
@walcottav 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again gents. Interesting, James confirmed much of my own pedal journeys through the decades, though I have no experience with Time. 1) Original Look system adopter, absolutely brilliant from day one 2) tried Shimano SPD-SL because they were fitted on a new bike - cleats too massive for my foot (women's US size 8.5), release was too difficult, back to Look 3) adopted SPD's for commuting with flat shoe capable on one side, single SPD on the other - really flexible usage I've never had to change until now 4) tried Speedplay after injury issues - absolute nonsense, back to Look 5) have finally had to replace the SPD commuter pedals (20+ years strong w/ good maintenance) to SPD xc/enduro-style for double-sided entry and solid platform. I really prefer a stiff-soled shoe & pedal connection. Guess its the roadie background and love of power transfer and works well (for me) whether commuting, errand running, touring, general multi-surface riding.
@marioramon2010
@marioramon2010 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks James! Great info to know!
@muggie85
@muggie85 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Cheers from Holland
@DominikLoeffler1
@DominikLoeffler1 3 жыл бұрын
I used the Shimano SPD (M520) on my road commuter bike for more than 10 years and totally loved it! These pedals are so robust and maintenance-free, it's ridiculous. I only just took them apart and cleaned/regreased them to sell as I'm trying some Look Keo Carbons. The stability of the Looks is incredible, but everything else is a major pain: clipping in/out, walking, getting on and off the bike (you can't even leisurely stand on one pedal for coasting without clipping in), getting the right lateral-medial/rotational/fore-aft fit, release tension has only 3 settings, cleats wear quickly, and lastly.... if you walk on a smooth floor like sealed garage concrete, you'll slip!
@daleboisselle8121
@daleboisselle8121 4 жыл бұрын
Good morning from sunny Florida! Great video. One comment that might be helpful. I am not a small rider and I use Shimano PD-A600 SPD pedals on my Roubaix and Tarmac. Shoes matter. I wear the Shimano SH-XC5 because of the carbon sole. If you are running pedals with a smaller contact, pay attention to your shoes.
@Craig_Beale
@Craig_Beale 4 жыл бұрын
James could definately have his own bikefit James channel now! Can you cover correct saddle height and whether any of the formula ie lemond etc are right?
@jamessersland5288
@jamessersland5288 6 ай бұрын
Mint! This was well done. I have seen lots of riders and their peddles, the best (bike fitted) ones have a peddle type they use and don't deviate from it.
@davecarroll666
@davecarroll666 4 жыл бұрын
About time you and James got back to doing bike fit whenever😂😂👍 never Tuesday in reality.
@seattlegrrlie
@seattlegrrlie Жыл бұрын
I really like a mtn bike style with clipless and flat. It allows me in an urban environment to decide if I want to wear a flat mtn bike shoe, a clipless mtn bike shoe, or just a regular normal shoe. While it's not the absolute best for power transfer, the versatility works for my needs
@darrenhaines1
@darrenhaines1 4 жыл бұрын
Great content - love the honest opinions
@paulcollins4932
@paulcollins4932 4 жыл бұрын
Started with Shimano, been using speedplay for the last 6 years, admittedly they need to be maintained regularly. But they have a natural feel to them and engage easily provided you look after the cleats on your shoes
@A1vee
@A1vee 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought the longer axle Shimano pedal thanks for the tip 👌
@stevenshaw6766
@stevenshaw6766 4 жыл бұрын
Started off using LOOK but, soon converted to Shimano SPDSL after a recommendation and never looked back. I have them on all my 3 road bikes so, no messing around. I prefer the blue cleats as I like a little float but not to the extent that the yellow ones give. Good article and well presented.
@otm646
@otm646 4 жыл бұрын
The float is designed to accommodate natural angle variations during your stroke, it's not designed to restrict it. I'm not saying going to 2.5 degree was a bad idea but you need to be very cognizant of why you made that change.
@richardharker2775
@richardharker2775 4 жыл бұрын
Good information James. More like it please. I believe Shimano uses a different spring strength within the heirachy of their pedals both road and MTB. I also like their road mtb pedals which have a better interface support with mtb shoes. Only single side clip in though.
@Rshorttt
@Rshorttt 4 жыл бұрын
Good work. Like to see more like this!
@r.k.hegeler9794
@r.k.hegeler9794 2 жыл бұрын
I found when setting up cleats/pedals for someone, or myself, ad tiny bit of oil on all connecting parts of the cleat and pedal. This gives a very good sense of the float area and gets the feel if you hit one end easily while pedaling or if you are right in the middle. On Crit races, I always added oil on the center contact patch to have a more direct connection to the pedals,
@wayno110
@wayno110 3 жыл бұрын
Love my speedplays ... The small contact pad is no issues. It feels solid. 12 years with speedplays. I had dura ace for 2 years, not bad too... But don't like to look down.
@Channel_Yo
@Channel_Yo 3 жыл бұрын
Love my Time pedals. Will get them again when I upgrade my bike.
@MickStanciou
@MickStanciou 4 жыл бұрын
Good video!!! Had no idea about DuraAce long axle
@p49N
@p49N 4 жыл бұрын
One topic that might fly is hip pain. I rode in a fairly aggressive high-forward position for 20 years to max out power, then (due to chronic knee pain) was fitted 7mm lower and all the way back on seatpost with 30 mm setback, as in plum centre over spindal , minus 10 mm. I use 175 cranks (I'm 184 cm 95 kg), but within 1 - 2 years developed osteo mineral accumulation in the hips, riding is always painful now. Seems when we move back it loads the hips differently. So my practitioner who also does fits have have suggested reducing the hip range required by moving the saddle forward 10mm and up 5mm to see if that helps.. Hips: long term considerations. Thanks again for the great content.
@isaidgooddaysir2585
@isaidgooddaysir2585 4 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to more BFT's! Cheers chaps. I did think of a potential topic. - Now I've heard James in the past say that most people, or at least a lot of people, will run their saddle too high. There's also a lot of 'information' out there about how best to do this... and it all seems to centre around things like the 'LeMond method' etc and they all always still end up talking about the old 'plumb line' chestnut in relation to saddle position, so.. - Perhaps a video on exploding the myths around saddle height - Is the LeMond method valid? The old inseam multiplied by 0.883 business? Straight leg when heel is on the pedal? Etc. Because if none of these things are in fact particularly useful, then every one who Googles/KZbins this topic, to this day, is still getting the wrong info straight off the bat. Or straight off the buttock, as it were.. Anyway, yeah, cheers guys. ☮ Edit: spelling
@Cade_Media
@Cade_Media 4 жыл бұрын
In the works, it's quite a big video so we're setting aside a day to film!
@strinhinottawa
@strinhinottawa 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome to see you guys back from your trip. Loving all this content, although I miss your daily discovery of banh mi's all over town.
@philellis386
@philellis386 4 жыл бұрын
Great to see bike fit Tuesday's back, had my bike fit with James and he changed my pedals to the longer axle ultegra,s. 🚴‍♂️👍, Also if you have a bike fit will the position be the same for any road bike, ie, endurance bike, race bike.
@EM-wd2vg
@EM-wd2vg 3 жыл бұрын
Just switched from Time to Shimano SPD SL and cannot believe the difference. Used Time pedals for 20+ years but the latest incarnations are in my opinion the worst they have produced. Several pairs replaced under warranty due to the carbon blades snapping, bearing issues and poor cleat durability. Love the SPD's, and pleased I made the switch. Great series of videos BTW...
@AndrewBlucher
@AndrewBlucher 4 жыл бұрын
Good call on SPD being good for commuters, very quick to get started after traffic lights. Also a good first cleat. Very forgiving. I had a chuckle about Look pedals on a bike running Campagnolo - exactly my case 😄
@stephenbetley9596
@stephenbetley9596 4 жыл бұрын
Rode Time for years, since Big Mig's time. Finally moved to keo's this year. Still getting used to them. Float on time is a center pivot vs rear for the keo's. Still the best float mechanism out there imo considering contact size as well. When Shimano 'eventually' come out with an spd-sl pedal power meter I might convert again.
@TheRobinparsons
@TheRobinparsons 3 жыл бұрын
Bigger rider here - have to say I love the speed plays and wouldn’t change them at all on my roadbike. Did LEJOG on them and had no issues on that, or the 15k miles I’ve done on it since. But I can understand why some don’t like them. I got them because they’re super easy to clip in and clip out, but in fairness the cleats can wear out quickly - I agree with you there. The Aeros are a lot better given the covers they have and since using those I find myself going through cleats a lot less often...
@picknicker1990
@picknicker1990 4 жыл бұрын
The original clipless pedal system (apart from the Cinelli M71 or some other early attempts) would be Look Delta, which is still available nowadays.
@zubietap
@zubietap 4 жыл бұрын
As a look pedal user I feel alright with the system. The only change I would think about would be shimano, which is the most alike, too. First video I watch from your channel and I liked it, I may consider subscription.
@olivergroning6421
@olivergroning6421 4 жыл бұрын
I ride SPD (MTB) types on the road bike for more than 20 years and never encountered any 'contact area' problem. There are pedals with an extended contact area, still, you need to choose a shoe with super-stiff sole. So there is the advantage of being able to walk more or less normally. The drawback is the weight of shoe and pedal is usually quite a bit more than compared to a Look pedal system. Also, the choice of suitable shoes (i.e. MTB shoes for road bike purposes) is certainly much more limited.
@PRH123
@PRH123 Жыл бұрын
Shimano themselves make some rather nice road type shoes for MTB SPD pedals. I've also ridden the MTB SPD pedals on my road and commuter bikes for years, it's nice being able to use any of my shoes (4 pairs) with any of my 3 bikes. I've also never experienced discomfort from the smaller contact patch, the stiffness of the shoes' soles seems to cover that. I have noticed one odd thing though with pedals I tried that have the MTB SPD cleat and a platform around it. Foot pain would start like 40 km into a ride, and I think it's because the platform is pushing up on the shoe and the cleat is pulling down, which creates a sort of wierd sensation and the discomfort. So I don't use those pedals. Results could vary I suppose depending on the shoes soles, but I ride only Shimano cleats...
@paulhaughney7511
@paulhaughney7511 4 жыл бұрын
What about power meter pedals as a lot of us are running them now.
@angelgomez7917
@angelgomez7917 4 жыл бұрын
Nice topic, and executed!
@stephenjeffreys4219
@stephenjeffreys4219 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome back! Could you review your experience with pumps you used when in Vietnam - looked like you pressure tested some every day - so which one was best? Would be good to know
@greglarter7859
@greglarter7859 4 жыл бұрын
Great content. Would love to see an episode around bike fit for ultra endurance riding. Transcontinental etc...
@DominicBurford
@DominicBurford 4 жыл бұрын
I use my bike for audaxing, sportives and commuting and have used Shimano SPDs for over a decade. Not just for beginners but for experienced riders who love the durability, ease of use and practicality.
@xiaoliuwu8539
@xiaoliuwu8539 Жыл бұрын
Just read the comment today. I learnt a new word “audax”. Thanks 🤗
@maveriks463
@maveriks463 4 жыл бұрын
The one that's most comfortable for your physiology...... But imho speedplay.👍 Time great too.
@MrHockaluger
@MrHockaluger 4 жыл бұрын
Finally biting the bullet amd moving from flats to clipless on my road bike. Bought a pair of Lake Cycling CX241 shoes per James' recommendations as I have wide size 11(45EU) feet and always had problems finding shoes that were comfortable and not too narrow. These shoes def fit the bill. Also went with Time Xpro10 pedals as they seem to have good reviews overall. Time will tell if I get along with them.
@TheBassallyear100
@TheBassallyear100 4 жыл бұрын
I use speedplay but with Northwave shoes and their speedplay inserts. Pedal body sits virtually right on the carbon sole which significantly reduced the pedal rock described by James that I experienced with my prior Giro shoes using the 3-hole speedplay adapters. I've also used shimano and time in the past. Pretty content with what I have right now but they are needy of regular maintenance.
@dk4559
@dk4559 4 жыл бұрын
Legend. I’m visiting James in 2020 to set up my gravel and cx bike. Can’t wait
@graemeveevers7053
@graemeveevers7053 4 жыл бұрын
From the content you've provided previously, I've already made the switch to Lake shoes based on all the advice from you and James, and even booked myself onto a bike fitting course to learn the trade and hopefully combine it with my sport therapy work. Looking forward to the new content, any of which is useful so no specific request from me, yet!
@domestique3954
@domestique3954 3 жыл бұрын
To be able to walk on bike shoes i recently got. the Look S track ti for one of my Road bikes-they are superb-much better than the xtr with twice as much Space to stand on.Also very easy to fit.👍🏼
@jeremybnz
@jeremybnz 4 жыл бұрын
I'm using Time pedals, have done for 15 odd years, still really like them! Switched to them from keywins, they had weird float where the axle could pivot or be fixed if you wanted it to by adding or removing shims, bonkers...
@sandycheeks6748
@sandycheeks6748 11 ай бұрын
SPD with combi pedals... it's the most versatile for your all around bike. you can use it with shoes with recessed cleats and with normal shoes. I got those on my road bike and on my city bike... it offers all the the stability I need and fits/works everytime with any shoe. On the trails I would however recommend a dual sided SPD to be able to engage the pedals more easily.
@Knud451
@Knud451 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Looking forward to the saddle video. Besides position, it would be interesting to hear about the shape of hips/pelvis/sit bones affects the choice of saddle (shape) and then again how that leads into positioning the saddle. Also in relation to riding style and power output.
@frankmaresca7252
@frankmaresca7252 3 жыл бұрын
I was doing a lot of mountain biking many years ago and went with SPDs but they where very difficult to get out of if muddy. I recall trying to upclip going up a hill in the rain and rolling over on to by back still clipped in. I went to Time ATACs and they were great. I use Looks for the road bike but use the SPDs when i want commute. Most of tbe spin class bikes seem to be SPDs. Thanks for your insight.
@SM_525
@SM_525 4 жыл бұрын
As with every other thing cycling related, I went through a phase where I tried tons of pedals. When I started cycling, I was on Shimano SPD-SL. I then proceeded to run through Look, Time, Mavic, Exustar(combination of Look and Shimano), and finally, Speedplay to "save more weight". In the end, I went back to Shimano SPD-SL because they're simply the most stable, well built pedals, in my opinion. Out of all of them, I'd be least likely to use Speedplay again.
@thekenthouse6428
@thekenthouse6428 9 ай бұрын
Never got used to Speedplays having put in about 300-400 miles, it vaguely felt like ice skating and couldn't be bothered with them, also went back to tried and true Shimano but want to try the Time X-Pro at some point
@JonathonDoig
@JonathonDoig 4 жыл бұрын
Yay, you all made it back ok 👌 BFJ's BFT filmed, who knows when, released on a Friday 🙄 1. Why is the red SPD-SL, and presumably the black Look cleat, the work of the devil? I ride black look cleats and they work very well for me. I know there is 0° float but, that's what attracted them to me. Looking forward to more BFT's 👌🎥
@cleggycyclist
@cleggycyclist 4 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking of changing to zero float so interested to hear what James has to say on this
@richcole3931
@richcole3931 4 жыл бұрын
Potential topic - Knee alignment/tracking. How to tell if it's out? Can a rider look down and see it? How can cleat adjustment change this?
@incars1000
@incars1000 11 ай бұрын
The practicality of being able to walk to the coffee shop like a normal person puts the SPD MTB top for me. Been trail biking for years on them before I started road biking around 7 years ago. Now I'm getting into TTs and quite happy to still be rocking the same pedals even when sprinting. Never had any issues with the contact area or play when properly adjusted, I think that's a bit of a myth (and a style thing) or only applicable to people putting out silly watts.
@JanHendrikHeuschkel
@JanHendrikHeuschkel 6 ай бұрын
Bought the E1 Ultegra based on a video and had knee pain within 3km. Fit before you buy!
@germanhugger41
@germanhugger41 4 жыл бұрын
Yes agreed Speedplay are a higher maintenance pedal system.. If you run the appropriate length pedal spindle, you shouldn't have any issues with abnormal cleat wear..
@felixkrogull478
@felixkrogull478 3 ай бұрын
Still rocking bike fit tuesdays in 2024💪
@CatManDoSocial
@CatManDoSocial Жыл бұрын
I've been using Speedplay pedals since 1998 and have loved them and never had any issues with them. However, watching all of these videos with James saying how much he dislikes them and how much he likes the Shimano platform, I decided to purchase a pair of Ultegra pedals. I can definitely say that the MUCH larger platform of the Shimano system is very noticeable. I still think the Speedplays are good (for me anyway) but I do agree that the larger Shimano platform is much better, especially when out of the saddle, and I'll be sticking with them. More excellent advice from James.
@dcolum23
@dcolum23 3 жыл бұрын
I am so close to pulling the trigger on Speedplays, but I hesitated… and this video definitely helped me reconsider it seriously.
@Cade_Media
@Cade_Media 3 жыл бұрын
The new ones since wahoo took ownership might be completely different, haven't had a chance to try them yet
@MrIammattsanders
@MrIammattsanders 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this I'd like to know more about SPD pedals and shoes for them. I ride mostly for commute/shopping/pleasure rides on cycle routes.
@thecrowfliescrooked
@thecrowfliescrooked 4 жыл бұрын
I've used zero since they came out. Great for triathlon too.
@winstoncat6785
@winstoncat6785 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting stuff. I used Shimano for many years, having started in the dinosaur age (1980's) on some of the earliest Look. And now I'm on Time which are really light, hold my foot well, feel good on climbs and I have no complaints. I guess it's horses for courses. Never tried Speedplay, but my guess was they would have most of the problems James highlights.
@winstoncat6785
@winstoncat6785 4 жыл бұрын
Oh. Another thing. I got foot pain on occasions on the Shimanos. This was still the dinosaur age when no one ever heard of a "bike fit" and probably also only started when I was well past 100 miles. Time. Never. But probably better shoes these days.
@zoid88
@zoid88 4 жыл бұрын
SPD for me. One pair of shoes for both my road and mountain bike, I can actually walk around meaning rides out can involve a lot more than just riding. I've for the M530 trail pedals, slightly larger area but i've never had any issues even with the smaller SPD pedals.
@jeffpedals
@jeffpedals 4 жыл бұрын
Race face Chester's on my road bike & mtb...& I don't care if people think it's strange. I've been down the clipless pedal road b4 & found I could never remain comfortable for 2 long on any of the styles. I'm comfortable now so that's what's important 2 me.
@vongdong10
@vongdong10 2 жыл бұрын
I started on SPD, wasn't a fan of the way of clipping in and it just didn't feel that secure. Swapped to SPD SL and it was such a huge difference. The wider platform felt much more secure and it was easier to clip in and out, a little bit of a pain to clip back in from a stop though. Currently trying out speedplay. A little hard to clip in but I'm sure it will be easier over time. Love the dual sided clip in and love the float.
@DavidJay00
@DavidJay00 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great content. Recently upgraded to that 105 pedal after using the old m520 for years and the difference is night and day...way more secure, way more contact, way lighter...also way harder to walk home when i blow my tire. Thoughts on eggbeaters? Thanks guys!
@andybrown8293
@andybrown8293 3 жыл бұрын
MTB spd for me, been using them for years. Never had issues and cheaper than any other type.
@onilovni1234
@onilovni1234 2 жыл бұрын
I used Shimano pedals for 10 years and went through numerous bike fitters and options to cure knee pain (custom insoles, arch support, shoe wedges...) Last year, I changed for Speedplay and I believe the stability is almost as good as Shimano with the new iteration by Wahoo. As for the ease of adjustment, nothing can beat the precision Speedplay offers since you can change the fore/aft position independently from the left/right unlike other cleats. They cured my knee pain and I'm not going back to Shimano ever.
@kevinthomson6324
@kevinthomson6324 4 жыл бұрын
I swapped from road set up to crank brothers egg beaters and a walkable shoe and it was a game changer. So much easier to clip in and night and day difference during cafe stops and even just walking out of the house. No more slips on the steps into the garage on my way out. And i don’t notice any difference out on the road. I even find it safer when stopped at traffic lights thanks to the extra grip from the shoes on the ground when stopped.
@darrellstyner0001
@darrellstyner0001 6 ай бұрын
I agree. I used SPD for a few years but could never get them set up quite right and started getting pain in my left knee. I switched to Crank Bros. Candy pedals and have never looked back. The Candy pedals have a larger contact patch like SPD, but they're much easier to get in and out of. I'm always the first one across the street on group rides as all the SPD users are falling to the left and trying to get their second foot in the pedal. I just put my foot down and go.
@jiyon167
@jiyon167 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve tried all road pedals, even Keywin. But I always gravitate back to Shimano SPD-R. Just feel stiffer, I like the feel of the stiffer float. I can try to explain the float on Time iClic. The float feels like it try’s centralise your foot when the spring is at the least amount of tension, it feels very smooth. Speedplay are just not worth the hassle, with SPD-R you just fit and forget. Yes I am an absolute pedal geek. I even wrote assignment an on them as part of my Design & Innovation degree.
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