WHAT'S THE BEST UTILITY LAND IN cEDH? - THE PLAY TO WIN PODCAST

[@markm1944]

The visual representation of the list at the bottom of the screen is a great addition to these videos, it really makes a difference

[@DebatablePlays]

Me yelling Ashaya at my phone

[@stormtrooperjeepjk]

Same.....same...same

[@tgarchangel2440]

I relate😂😂

[@jeffe2267]

I watch a lot of videos to fall asleep, and my girlfriend sure was confused why I said "Ashaya" multiple times in my sleep.

[@39josh05]

Me too have an ashaya deck too

[@dylanbate2560]

Came here to say this!

[@Koshersquid]

I like Urborg for casting Necropotence and Doomsday in decks that aren’t heavy on black mana. It’s also helpful to be able to tap your fetches through an opposition agent, which is all over my local meta.

[@tibx2617]

i use urborg in krrik for lake of the dead ;)

[@ryantomczak2248]

While not technically lands, the MDFCs should be on this list. At least some of them, namely the mythics and Valakut Awakening.

[@jacklamond3679]

Malakar rebirth is also really great for extra commander protection

[@ryantomczak2248]

@@jacklamond3679 In certain decks that could be really good.

[@ToxicHousecat]

6:09 that ability exists on multiple creatures, Krosan Wayfarer sacrifices himself to do it, and skyshroud ranger taps to put a land from hand into play. There's others, too, but in Green Black Naus piles, Necropotence for as much as you can, with a Krosan Wayferer out, then sacrifice him for E-Zone to cast your necro pile at instant speed is a real option!

[@maggiek8616]

I consider a utility land to be a land that does something other than just tapping for mana. Very interesting seeing you guys bring up stuff like Gaea's Cradle, Ancient Tomb

[@SDTCG]

Yavimaya turns on Submerge, and I do like the color fixing for my Temur deck, because all the dorks require green, so it's nice to have those all turned on in the early game.

[@TheCodingle]

I just watched a guy last night crop rot into a forbidden orchard to sneak his defense of the heart trigger in and it the most epic play I've ever seen

[@escobarisanoctopus]

"He didn't send me a better video" is fucking hilarious.

[@kawinworrasangasilpa6973]

discussing inventors' fair feels like formating for activation cost can be improved: like there is a lot of things nowadays that is sorcery speed or once per turn. Might be after tap symbol there can be smth like , :

[@Hashbrown1682]

*Dylan and Cam talk about layers. *off in the distance Tyler: *WHO DARE DISTURBS MY SLUMBER!?!?*

[@therealax6]

The funniest part is that layers have nothing to do at all with this :P (The reason why Urza's Saga is sacrificed when Blood Moon enters the battlefield is because it doesn't lose its Saga subtype (as only land types are removed), but it loses all chapter abilities, making it a saga with a final chapter number of 0 - and it will obviously have at least 0 lore counters on it.)

[@mrniceguy00987]

please do a best artifacts list (mana rocks, utility etc.) and stax and creatures lists. would love to know both of your top 10's

[@AnoraksMuseum-eu9ph]

I'm pretty sure they have a top ten creatures list

[@fluffylegend294]

At the beginning and I LOVE these new original things like this!! It helps me so much 🔥🔥🔥

[@HeellionI]

I understand, that lands that enter the battlefield tapped are not liked much, but in case where you were talking about lands searched with Crop Rotation... Bojuka Bog?

[@bulbasaurappreciator]

I love the chaotic energy of these, laughed for a solid minute at you guys fumbling around trying to think of Ashaya

[@uphillwalrus5164]

I think the depletion lands are underrated in mono colored decks (except green)

[@ghost64626]

Forbidden Orchard is excellent in specifically Toxril lol

[@christianjackson6884]

I really thought that Dylan was trying to troll Cam with the Niv thing.

[@korangar666]

You gys are amazing as ever. Fantastic information with a big pinch of humor!

[@aaronroot2172]

I think tabernacle was forgotten, but maybe it’s not played enough anymore.

[@inuaway7754]

It might be interesting to know the opposite topic, why some casual staples aren't played in cedh (reliquary tower)

[@Dracomandriuthus]

Doesn't make colors, the effect doesn't do anything for you.

[@fnaw17]

my pod used to be mega swamp loving urborg players so brought in Karma in my Yisharn deck, Urborg hasnt made an appearance since.

[@auxillaryinput]

Is it Eiganjo or Eijango? The second one reminds me of a Quentin Tarantino movie.

[@abrahamdrinkin2534]

Urza’s Saga dominates Modern and Legacy and every time I play it in cEDH I’m so happy. My opinion (and this might be a cold take) is that it’s on the same level of Otawara.

[@Ryan-rt5bl]

I really love the list, but to me the channel lands are in a weird spot. I've always viewed them more as mdfc than util lands. To me utility lands are ones that act as a land but can be activated to do something extra. Boseju for example doesn't do that extra if put in as a land. It's more akin to casting a spell that can be a land much like mdfcs. Anyways great content as always!

[@baconsir1159]

I was surprised to see Boseiju and Otawara above Cradle, but your explanation makes perfect sense

[@jacobhawkins6612]

I love the bits that come from not remembering card names from you guys.

[@henhousetv]

Glacial Chasm not making this list is a crime

[@tacobell2009]

Blast Zone would be insane if it didn't enter with a charge counter. But it would have to enter tapped for balance imo, even then it would still see play.

[@Shivan_16]

As a Niv Mizzet player I was rolling lol Keep up the fantastic work you guys!

[@NT_Escanor]

I really like the illustration of the list at the bottom of the video

[@GGMS1]

I think "boseiju, who shelters all" can also be very good, crop rotation for that land and than uncounterable ad nauseam in decks like Kraum/Ikra is very powerfull.

[@SashaWillow-s7i]

i'm really surprised you guys didn't talk more about Mycosynth Gardens - the card is actually reeeally good. i would argue that if you are in 1-2(sometimes 3) colors & you're playing with a Lion's Eye Diamond, it's an instant include. it is absurdly good in low color combo lists with LED, since it functions as a second copy that you can sacrifice immediately, due to LED not needing to tap. ALSO, these decks tend to turn more utility lands than most, Inventors Fair, Urza's Saga, Emergence Zone, etc., so the filter ability turns on more than in other decks. decks like Teshar want Mycosynth Gardens & IMHO it's a high priority utility land that i would never cut if i'm running LED & low colors. genuinely one of the better artifact/combo deck utility lands. i also tend to play LED in most reanimator decks too, & it always finds a home there. just a great card & a good land.

[@peakaboo6452]

‘’E - Gan - Jo’’ thank you hahahahah😂🤣🤣🤣

[@AllTheGoodNamesWereTakenMTG]

As someone who listens on Spotify, the whole “we know the name of the card but we aren’t going to say it but it will be on the screen” schtick is genius marketing. Not only did you get a Spotify listen, you got a KZbin comment, view and a like. Bravo

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

We have huge brains

[@AlzahraniSammy]

Absolutely love those deck boxes. Been looking for a video where you said what you guys use to display your commanders in the box. Question - can they fit 100 double sleeved cards? My decks are FAT, lol. Thank you and love your content!!

[@Dracomandriuthus]

Also Urborg being a part of the Kormus Bell prison archetype

[@Ichin8]

"Urza's Saga" *Neuron activated* "Ooh"

[@thomasschlectic5675]

That intro had me rolling. The glow in the dark deck box needs more love

[@mike-fb4fw]

i never realized how insane Cradle was until I played it myself in a deck. you dont have to play or build around it at all, its just always incidentally broken lmao

[@Ramen4Days]

Did they talk about Boseiju who shelters all and I missed it?

[@raedien]

If they did I missed it as well.

[@crazykhespar8487]

Hey. Krosan Wayfarer lets you put lands into play at instant speed. You cast it for a single green and can sacrifice it for free, meaning E. Zone can be just the 1 mana to win on top of the stack. Additionally, as its just a green pip, its playable in a wider variety of decks than Growth Spiral.

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Ya but krosan doesn’t have flash

[@egoish6762]

Cephalid coloseum i'm calling for top spot. I like command beacon in tergrid high power cause she's a removal magnet, don't think it's cedh outside of really niche mono colour commander. Edit: having listened to the list i'd have put it above eiganjo but yeah, those top 5 are very solid.

[@kstandish42]

No original Boseiju Who Shelters All? Uncounterable on a land is pretty decent

[@DexterityYTC]

Urza’s Saga grabs Mox Opal in my casual Daretti build more than it gets anything else. With only 28 lands and 24 red sources, my ass needs red. Sol Ring? Sick dude but Kiki says 3 Red

[@wieduwillst101]

You forgot Mt. DOOM. It is great

[@jeffe2267]

Now I want an MF DOOM Mt. Doom alter.

[@willzang3000]

Me also yelling ashaya at my phone haha

[@sumizuru9524]

It’s eganjo not ejungle BTW :D

[@Dracomandriuthus]

Tabernacle literally existing in many non-creature stax decks.

[@Jugglerman]

Also worth pointing out the colorless lands - City of Traitors - Crystal Vein - Mishra Workshop I think these are very situational. In the decks they are good in, they are very good, but most decks don’t want these. Also side note: I think it’s a shame that Tolarian Academy is banned. I know it probably makes sense, it just sucks that rest of the Urza cycle can be played and not Tolarian Academy.

[@SantaCatcher9000]

Bold of you to assume the red one can be played

[@Jugglerman]

@@SantaCatcher9000 lol, fair. it can be played, it's not good in CDH, but it can be played in the commander format.

[@_z3i]

No City of Traitors? Maybe that is too niche.

[@TripsAhoy]

Just started the video and my guess is it has to be the new Boseju. It's too good.

[@groover1der]

Nobody talks about Savage Summoning in green as a flash speed card. "Savage Summoning can't be countered. The next creature card you cast this turn can be cast as though it had flash. That spell can't be countered. That creature enters the battlefield with an additional +1/+1 counter on it" and it's only 1 green mana

[@BadDrummerCarl]

One honorable mention that may not qualify or just eek out of the chosen lands would be the filter lands, especially in 2 and 3 colour decks they can be great. You can (for example) use Sunken Ruins to turn a black into double blue for a counterspell. They come in untapped, add colourless or any combination of two if you have one starting colour.

[@SouDeAveiro]

The only cool thing about Yavimaya is it makes Acid Rain into mass land destruction in mono blue :D completely irrelevant for cEDH but neat.

[@jekanyika]

The Ashaya discourse was pretty funny

[@Haya12234]

Boseiju, who shelters all is so underrated. I have won a lot of Games because of it

[@makennymaxime9328]

Lol. The final fortune thing is funny cause I just watched him play Korvold and win with it! 🤣

[@dasfabelwesen]

Yavimaya helps you to pick up your other utility lands with the untap rangers, pure upside.

[@FrankPalombo]

How do you like Emergence zone vs winding canyon?

[@Krisunderscore_1]

What about gemstone caverns?

[@andrewpalella9923]

Idk if its layers, but blood moon does not change the fact that urzas saga is a saga. So the game sees a saga with lore counters equal or greater than chapters and then gets sacrificed. From what i understand. Whether thats layers or game state idk.

[@therealax6]

It's just a state-based action; the layer system doesn't change anything here because there's only one continuous effect (Blood Moon's) that is relevant.

[@pineapplepizzahotpocket8962]

So this isn't a utility land, but how come I never see reflecting pool in cedh decks?

[@LateTeens709]

You never want it to be your only land on turn 1

[@AMerexican787]

Hypothetically if we had an urborg for every color in which order would they be rated? Would a wastes version have any reason to exist at all?

[@therealax6]

A land that makes all lands tap for colorless could be useful in some casual decks (think Eldrazi-heavy decks), but I cannot imagine why anyone would put it in a CEDH deck.

[@janmelantu7490]

No love for Ramunap Ruins and Scavenger Grounds?

[@thatguycam1989]

The artifact lands are great for artifact decks in general. If you use krark clan for example.

[@MCKICKZ]

While I'm yelling Yedora.... I was wrong haha

[@tomaskaizr3720]

About Cephalid Coloseum. I still thing is nieche card but it works really well with Notion thief, Narset or Orcish bowmasters( and this one is really funny because you may ping 3 times so you may kill An Nauseam player for example).

[@beckpemberton4455]

Where would Tolarian Academy rank if it were legal?

[@jondavidenns]

I’m only at Gaea’s Cradle, but if we’re talking about Ancient Tomb, shouldn’t we also talk about the budget Ancent Tomb, Crystal Vein? If you have any big commander with a lot of colorless mana required (See K’rrik, Jeggy, Dargo, Tivit) wouldn’t you want all the 2 mana lands that can tap for 2 the turn they come down? I’m okay with being wrong. But I’ll take an optional painless ancient tomb ALMOST any turn I can get it.

[@Jugglerman]

Worth mentioning the tri-cycling lands from Ikoria and Street of Capenna, like Indatha’s Triome or Jetmir’s Garden, that tap for one of 3 colors and cycle for 3. I don’t think they are great, but they are also fetchable 3 color lands for 3 color decks that you can do on your end step. Also, it would have been nice they call them by their shard names (Grixis, Bant, etc), but what is magic if not adding more complexity just because 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@therealax6]

They avoid using plane-specific names outside of those planes, for flavour/worldbuilding reasons. That's also why the shock lands aren't named after the guilds.

[@Jugglerman]

@@therealax6gotcha that makes sense. Thanks!

[@K1Japaa]

By far my favourite ep 🤣 oh my days

[@AlCapone-uo9mi]

I've been watching you guys since you first released and look forward to your next Halloween cEDH! (hopefully no banlist again). How do we apply to play with you guys?

[@philiptrogers]

Ei-django Unchained is when it's in your hand ready to be discarded to deal 4 damage

[@scubadragon6384]

Horizon lands i play in my storm decks so I have extra ways to keep going and like fetches are good with bolas citadel

[@withasilentg]

HE DIDN'T SEND ME A BETTER VIDEO Always on brand here😄

[@dvdpekard]

It's EiGANjo, not EiJANgo

[@noahjacob424]

Do you not consider Gemstone Caverns to be a utility land? I expected to see it in this list tbh.

[@TheBonds00]

Almost 2025 and the Borne upon a Wind take is very HOT!

[@Razzia334]

Boseiju which just so happens to be played in...Yisan 🙏

[@raedien]

PTW: Uncounterable is good. Cavern is not like insane tho because a lot of the format defining counterspells don't hit creatures. Me: Excellent point, can't wait for them to talk about Boseiju. The original one. PTW: ...

[@blabik]

hehe, do you think they just discovered the og Boseiju thanks to this comment?

[@blabik]

I'll answer to myself. Comes into play tapped. Ouch Taps for only colorless mana. Ouch 2 Not worth

[@3N3MYKN1GHT]

Im gonna have to go with threshhold lands or command beacon , or maybe ive been playing too much tayam.

[@web_buddy3860]

have you been playing with minamo and the One ring that is just a bomb

[@Vuietnam]

Pog! But also does anyone else get a high-pitched buzzing when Dylan is talking? This is the 2nd video where I've noticed it. I've heard it once when I was in my car and the other time with headphones. It's like the mosquito noise thing

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

I’m trying to listen for this buzzing and I can’t tell if I’m old and just can’t hear it or what. Is there a moment where you feel it’s extra obvious?

[@Vuietnam]

So it's pretty much whenever Dylan talks it happens but maybe it's my old man ears because I asked my friend and they don't hear anything. I went back and listened to older ones and it did happen but it's only when it's your doing like the podcast format and it's only the mic Dylan uses. Idk seems weird AF. I don't have this happen with other people but I also might be the only one with the issue? Won't stop me from watching tho

[@Rylo-Kev]

Would Boseiju and Otawara be flipped if their respective channel costs were swapped?

[@markoswester-rivera]

Do you think Cavern of souls isnt play3d because no one is countering creatures or is no one countering creatures because of cavern of souls?

[@ashiftylad]

sitting here like... er.. ashaya.. come on guys. :P

[@vansinkalliandrios8997]

You guys need a shirt that says "Tapped Lands Matter"

[@wad_Mr.J]

Micosynth gardens is a filter land it can make colored mana for 1 colorless

[@joshbailey7775]

Keywords only exist on the realm they were created on. It's why Emry has affinity but not the keyword.

[@arturstasienko2234]

Land that enters tapped is a utility land ;). because it does something besides making mana.

[@gundamassassin241]

Should Prismatic Vista have been added to the list?

[@CarloofallTrades]

“don’t bring up layers when Tyler’s not around” THE CONCERN IN HIS EYES

[@isaaccook4353]

What about gemstone caverns

[@BrianMcRae57]

Who is going to get Boseiju with a crop rotation? 🤔

[@stormtrooperjeepjk]

Im hoping (early in the vid) geier reach sanitarium is in this list

[@funmaker77]

What about mount doom?

[@eco3337]

what about war room? It's a pretty good card in one and two color decks.

[@cy4will829]

No plaza of heros?

[@Z3RO458]

29 is a lot of lands?? 😮 all my decks have 28-32 average cedh lmfaooo