What's the deal with Ashe? (and B.O.B.) || character design & lore discussion

[@Danothyus1]

Considering she looks unscathed and B.O.B is all full of battle damage, i do think she might be living a fantasy of being a criminal, never getting to do any real dirty work while B.O.B keeps her safe all the time.

[@gokbay3057]

Explains the "B.O.B. do something!" I mean if she is playing being an outlaw it is normal that she gets frustrated and angry when something doesn't go her way.

[@dracopug]

I don't really know if she really rejects her high class... In game (I think) she states when killing someone: "look out for the one percent". It kind of implies she still considers herself high class. I know it's not canon, because voice lines in the game apparently aren't, butething to consider.

[@spacecocaine1823]

Draco Pug I always thought it meant a reference to the idea of only 1% of bikers being criminals, and Ashe sorta runs a biker gang... but I may be wrong.

[@ohwowitsthatguy9154]

It's also a reference to the statistic that 1% of all motorbike riders are actual outlaws, E.g: The Hells Angels.

[@IamWalkingDead1]

Thats a reference to the term "one percenter". One percent of all bike riding gangs are actual violent criminals.

[@RacingSnails64]

true, she may still like the rich life and just wanted "her own family." interesting

[@masteriangamer]

It took me a bit to pick up on Ashe's albino characteristics, too. I think Blizzard may have wanted to incorporate that as part of her character, but at the same time wanted to retain the "Overwatch girl" aesthetic you talked about. The result is some kind of psuedo albinism that possesses some of the actual disorder's aspects, but shrugs off the visual characteristics which might come across as uncanny valley (such as having pale, undefined eyebrows). Overall it feels like somewhat of a missed opportunity to represent albinism, since it's something you don't see much video games.

[@darkomihajlovski3135]

She grew up rich it makes sence that she keep her appearance up

[@Devilcakes]

I would like to see that idea kept up, but tying back to some of his points... maybe she wants to hide some of her characteristics such as the eyebrows with makeup. Those eyebrows do kinda of skew towards high makeup control.

[@PidgeonChair]

The white hair and red eyes are purely just aesthetically pleasing.

[@princeoflies8031]

That's stupid, if a character has to look like a cowboy anime elf I want to know why.

[@MrCleks]

There is a huge mistake when you interpreted her "cleanliness", that is it symbolizes her desire for "control" over her own life and her own social status. It looks like she doesn't hate the life of luxury and excessiveness, but she despites the idea that it's given to her, from the people whom doesn't care about her, nor does she cares about them. What she wants is "total control" of her own life. She gets what she wants, she does what she likes, just like a spoiled brat she was, and still is to this day. Or at least that how I see her design.

[@benjamincarmona5883]

About the make-up. I think its in line with her clothing, her desing is saying something like "You can be an outlaw, but that doesnt mean that you cant be classy". Or at least thats what intention I see, she cares a lot of her looks, and it could be something that she inherited from her past. It even has some utility for her when she is "managing" her gang, just as buisness men and women dress up to meetings and try to give an image of "order". I like in someway (but idk if it was intentional from the designers) that the make up at first glance "doesnt make much sense", because well, its hard for people to reject some practices that they have been doing for years and years, just because. So it makes sense that the make-up doesnt make much sense in her character, because not everything on behalf of human behaviour is rational.

[@IceFireofVoid]

Someone should make a "realistic" Ashe with paler sickly skin and glasses or fancy goggles. Maybe a cybernetic monocle.

[@nmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmn]

I think ashe can't really be "tall and fat" unless you change bob too, which wouldn't make that much sense, he's the big one, sort of her protector, her only protector, and he's the big strong one of the duo because he's the only constant in her life, as far as we know. I think she has to be rather short and thin in contrast to bob and actually seem like bob can protect her in any way, if she had a zarya body having a big, strong brute butler wouln't help her too much. you could still give her a different body type but I just don't think she would work as a "tall and fat" person, don't know if I'm making sense, I mean ana had an incredibly enhanced eye that wasn't noticable, why would the super rich woman have to use some weird apparatus?, also who knows, maybe she uses spray tan. pls don't take anything I say too seriously

[@NibelungJ]

Tall and fat were examples. The point is anything to differentiate her from ModelThinFemale#12 on the database.

[@mipha8795]

I agree with you on this, and to me at least you're making sense lol. To add on to you're second paragraph, i'm not familiar with albinism, so I'm not sure how it works, but doesn't she live in Arizona? With that sun wouldn't she get really tanned? (Again, idk much so maybe albinism prevents tanning, but your spray tan idea works well too) We don't know if she does or doesn't, but but it would really make sense for someone like her (a person who's diplomatic, i.e settling gang wars, negotions, and the like) to need to be presentable yet dangerous, so she takes advantage of what good she has (white hair, red eyes, sharp features) and hiding the bad parts (ghostly skin, bad eyesight) basically all with money, suggesting she doesn't really reject the upperclass lifestyle. Maybe because she can't, maybe because she doesn't feel a need to and is rejecting something else. It really is something to be explored soon! (Last minute thought, isn't she a top class criminal, who steals lots of money? Why WOULDN'T she use some on herself with make up n stuff?)

[@timothymclean]

1. Tall _or_ fat, or _something else._ 2. What's wrong with changing B.O.B.? Or leaving out the big, male-coded protector to the frail-looking woman? 3. Ashe doesn't look like she has spray-tan or a subtle visual apparatus. She looks like she has normal Caucasian skin and normal unaugmented eyes. There are endless ways that Blizzard _could_ have demonstrated either of those facts...but they didn't. Either Blizzard didn't intend any of that, or they were absolutely terrible at demonstrating it. The latter is probably worse.

[@nicolasstegmayer6142]

i think tb said those things just as examples not necessarily to say they should put those things specifically. Yes, the idea of the duo and opposites would be loss, but it would be cool to see something different.

[@tobimisa]

then, make her short and fat or short and muscular or tall and lanky or short and fragile looking it's possible to have her still stand in contrast to bob without being stuck with the same cookie cutter bodytype that most of the female cast is subjected to I've seen people genuinely confuse her for a new widowmaker skin, Which Is An Issue character design wise

[@justsomedudete3320]

B. O. B! DO SOMETHING!

[@fluffydogchannel]

starting to think that no one in the overwatch design team knows that women aren't born with make up. even little ashe at her birthday party is wearing the winged eyeliner and lipstick, for eff's sake.

[@princeoflies8031]

Not to mention drawn on eyebrows lmao

[@darkomihajlovski3135]

She was a kid and rich not hard to imagine why she would have make up

[@MasterMemo]

True, but this is the one character that could reasonably have consistent makeup. The other women not so much, maybe Widow and Sombra, maybe.

[@TheCalenestel]

About the makeup (and suit). I agree with what it symbolizes. But I kind of think it fits Ashe. She wanted, needed even, to break free. But now she's living her own life where she goes whole heartedly for her own version of that control. She straight out talks about "my gang, my rules" (or something close to it) in her own videos and a lot of her ingame voice lines echoes that sentiment. To me it seems that the further she has come from her old life, the more she resembles what she rebelled against. In her own way (and maybe only up until a certain point), but still.

[@MissTautoosius]

What I don’t get is: where’s her scars? Maybe even some disfigurement? It’s the same problem that Kai’sa has. Women who lead very dangerous lives should have VISIBLE SIGNS of surviving that life! But heaven forbid we have something that mars the sexy video game woman’s perfect face...

[@IamWalkingDead1]

I believe that's why Bob is covered in wear and tear and dirt, he acts as her guardian, all her life. So she looks pristine cause he would protect her.

[@princeoflies8031]

@@IamWalkingDead1 Yeah he obviously serves as her protector, but do you think if she's living so dangerous she never once got hurt? Is BOB so almighty? I mean that could be, but at this point she looks more like a cosplayer that a real person with that backstory. Also she drives around through the desert a lot, that alone should be enough to get her clothes dirty and her makeup messed up. That damn red lipstick alone shouldn't stay on a whole day under normal conditions, but I guess I'm thinking too realisticly.

[@MasterMemo]

They had such a good start with Ana and Zarya

[@ReiSilver]

I think the thing that gets me is that... Ashe, given her backstory, is a horrible person. It's not that she's 'playing criminal' to 'get back at daddy' she's playing criminal, as far as we can tell, because she likes hurting people and likes to profit directly at the expense of others? If she just wanted to get away from her up bringing she could have been literally anything, she had all the choices in the world. She chose crime. Like she grew up on westerns and decided it looked cool and wanted to do that. But because she doesn't actually care about not being a rich girl she keeps her butler, she keeps her high class clothes and make up. She plays at being a criminal the same way Bruce Wayne (In the Dark Knight anyway) played at being poor. They were never really in danger or ever desperate because they still had their vast wealth to fall back on. That's my read anyway (that and as mentioned the shallow and very convenient 'beauty standard' albinism, I'm very pale myself and dear god the amount of sun screen she would need to be slathering on)

[@Kaninchenbau]

Honestly I just can't wait for Echo to get released as a Hero 'cause boy is there a discussion to be had about her design being boring (pretty lady #29347) but also incredibly effective because of that boring aspect (her face immidiately signals that she's not just a regular Omnic or any other kinda robot we've seen so far, she's very special somehow)

[@Devilcakes]

I hope skyen also covered this by now, AND, I hope he covers the Overwatch Genesis shorts. For whatever reason, but I hope Aurora (Echo's direct predecessor) gets covered.

[@HappyNecromancer]

really interesting take on Ashe's design! I thought she looked a little unfinished but I didn't realize by how much until you broke down how many missed opportunities there were. Great vid, mate!

[@mirarobin4096]

I love listing to you imitate accents

[@DirkDerick]

I also thought he might be an Albino based off of her hair and eye color but what really made me question it was not the eye problems but rather the fact that she lives in the desert and albinos are famously very sensitive to suffering skin damage from sunlight.

[@RikuMatsuoSF9]

For me, I think the reason Ashe looks a little too perfect is to send the message to her crew that "She's in the control." You know, to be a little intimidating because it's like "Oh right we can deal with all these stuff and still have time to maintain myself. Not even sweating," kinda stuff. Plus she's not going out there and will accept the lower class life or something, she still considered herself to be better than everyone but she just wants to earn it by herself so she rejected her family. Someone who really respect her for her real ability, not her title from her family.

[@EuclideanVision]

"She's also a little bit unusual in that she's one of the few characters in Overwatch who really doesn't have to be there..." Couldn't agree more! Her elevation to hero status is nice in itself, I just find the execution & the character itself disappointing. :/ Also, her core motivation & goal of making a family is kinda ignored in most everything besides her origin story...never mind that she's already completed said goal xD. I like to think that BOB actually does care for Ashe (he's changed his life & even his body for her), but Ashe's interactions with him kinda damage that relationship to me :/. In the image from her origin story where she & 3 others form the Deadlock Gang, her skin tone seems almost white; I didn't notice how out of place that was until now! I really like the lenses idea, it could have made her character that bit more unnerving & "unattractive"...ah well. I've done a full review of "Reunion" on my channel; if you have time / interest I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. Please don't feel obligated xD I'd just really appreciate the feedback is all - I'm aware you're likely a very busy man! Great work as ever, keep it up sir!

[@RenZeffie]

Hi Mr. Skyen. Been meaning to watch this one for a while. This is definitely a bit late to the conversation, but I did want to add something building upon your second read of Ashe, and that's her connection to the "found family" trope. At first glance, it's easy to say that Ashe isn't connected with any of Overwatch's core themes or ideas. This might be because of her nature as an "impromptu" hero. However, closer inspection (at least to me and some lore-hungry friends) suggested that Ashe's connection to Overwatch is her strange relationship with family. Family and familial ties are essential to the world of Overwatch. This includes both biological family (the Amaris, the Lindholms, the Oladeles, the Volskyas) and the families one makes (the Strike Team, Overwatch during the Golden Age, arguably Talon and their weird "co-workers as family" relationship). The thing is about Ashe, though, is it doesn't seem to me like she has the maturity or the experience to create a functional family unit. She wants to make a family of her own because her biological one didn't provide her with the love and support she needed, but it's due to a lack of that love and support that she can't really make a functional family... not like the family that the members of Overwatch made. This is really interesting when you compare her to McCree, who might as well have been in the same boat, but *he* was inducted into that Overwatch family upon joining Blackwatch. We know both Gabriel and Ana cared for him, and you can speculate that he and Fareeha had a big brother/little sister-type relationship. So imagine if you're Ashe, and the guy you started your family with (who you clearly cared about if the picture on her bike is any indication) ends up leaving you behind and gets the family experience you want but can't actually make. Then you can see this sort of tragedy behind Ashe--that she wants to make a family but, unless she learns and grows as a person, will never truly be able to make a functional or healthy one. I wonder if that's something she's figured out for herself already. Maybe she has and has realized she likes being a gang boss too much do to anything about it. So Ashe is tied to Overwatch's theme of "family" but is a pretty unique (and tragic) take on it. Could I be reading into it too hard? Maybe. But I do think that's more interesting than "rich girl." And, like you said, the text itself doesn't really make the distinction between the two more obvious takes of her character. So she's a cool opportunity to ask the viewer what they think, instead of defining her more rigidly. I do wish her character design was better, though. Love the outfit... hate the "skinny white woman" bit.

[@BAVy11037]

2:57 Literally description of Junkrat

[@jon9828]

The Albinism seems slapped on, an afterthought and possibly not true. Smells of a lazy explanation for white hair/red eyes they put in after the fact. You don't make an albino character that isn't pale. It just doesn't make sense

[@skoll3095]

So Ashe and Kai'Sa have the same problem basically...

[@FrogEnjoyer17]

What's the deal with Bonny and Clyde?

[@TBSkyen]

Actually that might be an interesting video to make, albeit it'd require a hell of a lot of research in order not to get their story disastrously wrong.

[@hedvigjohansson7964]

I don't think her design would work if she was tall or fat, because the contrast between her and bob wouldn't really exist. But I think it would he better it she was shorter and smaller...

[@princeoflies8031]

That was just an example, she also could be super thin and flat or just small. I'ts the perfect model body again, uninspired and boring imo

[@badblur1323]

By any chance you can take a look into castlevania? Perhaps the netflix series or the games?

[@jon9828]

Very much this.

[@1Kapuchu100]

I feel like commenting on Ashe's supposed Albinism, and how it's lazy if she just has red eyes and white hair "just because" if she's not albino, is reaching quite a bit just to have something to criticise. While rare, it is also possible for a person to have platinum blonde hair that looks almost entirely white, and that could maybe be just what had happened to Ashe. As for the red eyes, Moira is also red eyed (Heterochromia, the other is blue), and Sombra's are more of a violet. In a world where that is possible, I wouldn't count out that having red eyes and nearly perfectly white hair (if not just plain White) as being impossible.

[@UrdnotRed]

Hello, T B Skyen. Love your League and OW content! Any chance you could do a WtDw Junkrat and Roadhog? They're my personal favourites and no one really talks about them except how funny they are.

[@rmail25]

Your outro sounds like the Emoji movie...... *shudders from PTSD*

[@69Yosiel69]

In the origins cinematic, another thing that Ashe brings to her new life is the gun which was showcased in the fireplace behind her. I love your videos from a time now, keep up your work now.

[@henritimonen4922]

There is the hat which shows this outlaw life. Kind of. It is dirty like you can see in the end part of the video and it does have some marks of use which you can see when Skyen talks about her make up and have that close to face picture from trailer.

[@SantiagoAgnes]

I heard the lore was getting messed up again when Ashe was revealed since the creation of the Deadlock Gang was messing with the timeline of the Overwatch world.

[@ElJorro]

I like how you mention the gold accenting going on. Its a very good observation.

[@dalila2442]

You should talk about Baptiste! I found his design to be super lacking of any personality or identity, the worse in the game by far (I actually haven't disliked any other character design before it, they're all super unique), but anyway, I really wanna see how you feel about it.

[@cyaneye5911]

Can you make what's the deal with azir or xerath? Thanks😊♥️

[@LordDustyMason]

I've been waiting with interest to see your analysis, especially because I found Ashe's design pretty disappointing. As someone who finds character design one of the few strong points of Overwatch (invariable female body/face shape & Hammond should have been a monkey, notwithstanding), it was a shame to discover that Ashe suffered from a clear lack of originality. If I was told before her release that Blizzard were creating a cowgirl/outlaw character, her design is exactly what I would have thought of because it looks like most generic cowgirl/outlaw characters. I would have hoped that Blizzard would have taken this base design and really added an interesting Overwatch spin to it. What's worse is that I really like B.O.B.'s design and yet he has been relegated to an unplayable ultimate, when in reality he should have been his own character. He's a big, burly version of the 'zenyatta' styled humanoid omnic with an old school handlebar 'tasche, a fur-collared, sleeveless biker jacket, topped off with a tiny bowler hat. His whole design was so fun and different it was no wonder so many comments were about him after the animated shorts were released.I didn't find Ashe's backstory particularly original either. Ignored/lonely rich kid turned criminal was fairly predictable and didn't really surprise me. Similar to design, B.O.B.'s lore just stands out more, and although both characters work as a pair (similar to Junkrat & Roadhog), I wish B.O.B. had been used as a playable character. A quiet, loyal butler turned outlaw, bodyguard has the potential to be a really interesting character, especially as a robot moving from one to the other with little to no change in personality, just a desire to protect. I think this characterization would have worked well in contrast to Bastion's move from mindless drone to emotional 'personhood'. Ashe's whole design could have been a chance to elevate a generic character type with a unique spin but like a lot of Overwatch's game development in recent months it's all rather lacking.

[@Devilcakes]

11:43 Personally, I always saw Ashe as being a bit more... shorter? But that's cause I always see her next to BOB who sort of recontextualizes her? But otherwise in terms of shapes, yeah. She's 100% hourglass and it kinda sucks that we don't have more variety. I kinda wish she kinda had that triangle sorta shape to contrast Bob who's sorta this square-roundish shape figure.

[@bnora1995]

Hearing this, I think it would have been interesting to havs a gameplay similar to what it was like in The Last Of Us when you were sneaking, vision blurred but you can tell where the voices are coming from. In this case shotgun and the grenade makes sense bc then she'd be someone relying on her hearing to fight and those are weapons that have large range. The sharpshooting is rubbish tho.

[@frostywiktur8906]

Btw, Riot expanded their lore-map again and they added "Shuriman Jungle". There is an illustration off Nidalee which looks like new design of her.

[@erikfirth5408]

Lots of great ideas...but I think it would be really cool to have the perfect look with the makeup but then when she ults and has Bob protect her. You can see that her makeup smears and she looks a bit distressed.

[@YayaFeiLong]

It's very possible that Ashe's white hair and red eyes was just a coincidence -- they match the colors of her outfit quite nicely. Blizzard might make her albinism canon sometime in the future, but that doesn't mean it was planned from the start. Why'd you describe the advent of December as it "rearing its ugly head"? It's the most wonderful time of the year!

[@Fistminer]

As a leader its extremely important to keep up appearances. If you just let yourself go and look unhinged, confidence in you as a leader begins to slip. Growing up wealthy this is no doubt something she knows well. That is why she looks so clean and sharp. You can also see this principal in Dutch Vanderlin in RDR2.

[@SampoPaalanen]

I think it would be intresting to compare Ashe with Doomfist storywise, both are from priviledged backround but the way they're very different characters currently and not just because one is woman and the other a man.

[@salmon7310]

Hey Skyen, what is your opinion on Yoricks lore and how could his character be improved?

[@rebanime1]

I only know this because I did a project on albiononisim in hight school. You can have albiononism just for you eyes or hair and not your skin. The pigmitation for your eyes,hair,and skin are not all on the same genetic code. one of her parents could be full albino and she could have got some pigmentation for her skin and not her eyes and hair.

[@higeroman5800]

I think her makeup is very neat because even though she hated being a spoiled rich kid, she grew up in that world and learned how to look good when given the chance and considering she has BOB who does most of the physical work it seems pretty feasible for her to maintain certain level of tidiness for herself

[@milkduds9148]

I find Ashe and her story to be rather generic, honestly. It's not bad, but it also doesn't stick out. What I think they could've done, if they really want this concept of a high class outlaw, is to have her very clearly be a spoiled rich girl who simply romanticizes being an outlaw. She's just playing a game, wearing a costume, because at the end of the day, she doesn't actually deal with the dirty, gritty reality of outlaw life. Which is why she's so clean and well dressed, unlike someone like Junkrat. Though, if I were to design her to reflect that, I would've used her appearance from the mugshot with the running makeup. Something that looks rough but its clearly not natural; she's carefully styled this appearance instead of it occuring naturally.

[@batmabel]

I think she's supposed to be all clean and pretty to show us that she's still just a spoiled kid and B.O.B is the one doing everything, hence his wear and tear like you mentioned. Although I agree that she would look super cool all dirty and with some "battle damage", that would hurt this image of being a rich girl who plays boss and have other people do her bidding for her, which is the point of the character IMO (I mean, she literally summons another character and screams for him to "do something").

[@batmabel]

Also I don't think she's supposed to have albinism at all, they probably just went with the color scheme because it looks cool. If you look at the panel from Blizzcon showing the creative process behind her, she originally even had another skin color (which btw is a shame that they changed it), hair colors and so on and so forth. It's boring, like you said, but so is having the same body type as every other female character but two (Mei and Zarya) :P

[@RacingSnails64]

6:15 i was about to say you have a shit tone there but then you amended the other perspective of her character lol. it's intriguingly saddenly how much people wanna say she's just a brat and ignore every other aspect of her. in general rebuttal, Ashe COULD be harder/dirtier, but she grew up as a well-made rich girl. as much as she says she rejects that past, it's very obviously still a part of her. that's kind of interesting. she's also a gang leader not always in the field so she'd be more "intact" than her grunts. and fuck, that albinism angle should totally be a thing as well. i'm not expecting it to be touched on in the future but it fuckin could.

[@bluethunder92291]

Do you do anymore videos on overwatch

[@dracopug]

Yes he does.

[@OccuredJakub12]

I think she's connected to the rest of the Overwatch world and it's themes through her relationship to Bob. The story is all about human and Omnic cooperation, but we often forget that this cooperation can be done for villainous reasons too. She twists the main moral of the story, that humans and Omnics should work together, on it's head. I know I'm late and no one cares but yea.

[@epithet052]

I had no idea it's possible to do an accent that's both good and bad at the same time. Well done.

[@solempireo9015]

I don't think Albinism (I think that's how it's spelled) is a part of Ashe's design at all (unless it's officially confirmed at some point). To me, she just has Platinum Blonde (basically pale/silver/white) hair, and Reddish-Brown (there are shades of brown that appear red) eyes.

[@DeathbyPixels]

For some reason I really enjoy that you accidentally called Tracer by her real name

[@KaosKanji]

I think this is the first video, where I don't fully agree. I think she needs to have "clean" clothes and much Make Up to give her more contrast to McCree (and not to be "female McCree"). It also fits her character, being arrogant and vain. And she never rejected being rich or spoiled, she rejected her family. To me, it makes perfect sense, that if you are brounght up in a very "clean" house and are used to wearing make up as a teenager, you will have that habbit later on too. Also, I can't see her being an albino with that skin tone. I think, white hair and red eyes were chosen to make her more "villian like" (see here: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WhiteHairBlackHeart). She would look to "nice" with blonde or brown hair.

[@BAVy11037]

21:50 I think people with albinism are very sensitive to sunlight. Aaaaaand Ashe operates in the desert

[@101Rouge]

In reference to her appearing pristine and her make up done despite her lifestyle, it’s at least worth noting that her arms are completely tattooed up which at least a blemish to her body that implies a rejection to her previous way of living.

[@Devilcakes]

19:59 I have at least seen One (1)(one) person who employs a much more in-depth use of monochromatic and heavy makeup use just water on their face... and they turn into... a halloween ghoul. If you see this bhaddie, I'm so sorry you are an example here. But that's what you want to see. After a hard day of work, fighting, and smudged things. She should look like a ghoul. The joker.

[@timothymclean]

Ashe is hardly the only character who doesn't have much of a connection to the rest of the universe. Mei was funded by Overwatch before getting frozen and that's about it; D.va's current occupation involves an omnic which is presumably related to the Omnic Crisis and that's about it; Hanzo is Genji's brother and that's about it; etc. Luckily, their connections are _just_ strong enough that they could plausibly get drawn into any sort of big event that ends up tangling the entire cast. 16:30: There are probably an endless variety of excuses to be made. It shows that she hasn't fully rejected her past, she needs to maintain an image to keep her position, she just likes feeling pretty, whatever. But we all know the _real_ reason is that makeup is sort of a default for female characters, like the slender hourglass figure, long hair, and generally looking beautiful. And that's a problem inherent to our culture.

[@yuyutheredbriar2705]

Some people just like to wear makeup, no notion of power or privilage, just preference. I think ashe rejected her family not so much society, she was going to be pushed out to fend for herself, so she did so on her terms and took power for herself and stole from her family and made a new family with her gang. She chases the riches, she will want to keep up the regal look to match.

[@captainChernihiv]

*is emotional about dislike button's life story

[@RacingSnails64]

same tbh

[@halbarroyzanty2931]

To me the fact that she IS so clean gives weight to the interpretation that she's just playing cops and robbers. she likes the idea of being a rootin tootin outlaw but doesn't want to get her hands dirty, instead letting her robot butler do it for her

[@Pyroguekenesises]

The running makeup thing would make her look like Sylvanis...

[@greenwren5072]

Is Ashe reverse Batman?

[@bigsadge]

Bob is just a heavy enemy from the Rialto event mission

[@markusnopason4152]

Hey what's that word you used to refer to Ashe instead of son? Not a native speaker, sorry

[@val7885]

A "scion", descendant of a notable family.

[@scottsbarbarossalogic3665]

Scion; it means heir or child

[@Madavar_OW]

Ahem. It's five years in the future.

[@dragonflight2468]

"Slender body prototype number 5" How bold of you to assume they have 5 body types for women... There's 2.

[@ryebreado891]

another thing to add is that people born with albinism are also at higher risk for skin cancer and harsher sunburns as their skin is often lacking of the melanin to protect against uv rays. so having a supposedly albino character run around all day in the heat of the desert also doesnt match up at all.

[@goldenalpaca3881]

I wish B.O.B. was my dad... This video needed more B.O.B.

[@Dontreadthis0]

I love how the new overwatch heros and getting increasingly ambiguous and much less one-dimensional then most of the heros in the original cast.

[@FruitBasketyay]

Can you talk about how BOB is more likeable than Ashe and why?

[@thefakebanette3483]

I feel the make up is just to show her leadership of her gang. As for the red eyes white hair, it was just an aesthetic choice I feel.

[@pika-sc5lu]

Watching this makes me want to play Ashe.

[@quiarapl8362]

I think Ashe would still like to keep up her appearance, even if she is rejecting her past.

[@voidfly]

I would love to like the video, but I gotta support the rebellion hassle

[@namespara6669]

Your goddamn accents are the best hahahhaa

[@ottodavis-octane3839]

Maybe Ashe just regards B.O.B. as the only family she ever had.

[@LycanDreams9159]

What do you think of some people in the community drawing Ashe with age lines and crow’s feet. You mentioned she was supposed to be around 40? Do you think giving her age lines like Anna would have been a better design decision?

[@wilburscoops4220]

i just wish i could play as Bob

[@rachelmcquade8910]

An issue I have with Ashe is that she looks far too young for her age. She's meant to be close to her 40s, but looks like she's in her 20s. I'd usually stay it's just the art style that makes her look younger, but McCree who is YOUNGER than her has pores and wrinkles to show his age. I find that really offputting

[@MamaFeng]

I love you TBSkyen, more than anyone, and I wanna marry you, but you *totally* missed the point with Ashe when you started talking about her use of makeup. The way I see it, Ashe is a rich girl who could never get used to being anything less than a millionaire. The criminal life she's living is purely an act of spoiled rebellion. She doesn't like getting her hands dirty at all, and that's why Bob is there. He does everything for her on demand, being that he's a robot designed to serve her no matter what. In game she fights and all, and she shoots her shiny gun, explodes dynamite... But everything happening in game is non canonical, so we don't even know if she's even capable of shooting a big gun like that. This whole scheme of her going out and doing crime is part of her fantasy of what a successful criminal life looks like. She didn't need to do any of this, she was already rich and had everything on a silver platter, literally delivered by a silver butler. She doesn't understand what motivates people from lower classes to commit crimes, she chose this life quite literally out of boredom. Her appearance DEFINITELY reflects this. She's clean, put together, and she's always wearing a full beat. She has painted nails and her gun is golden. This is all just for show.

[@TTMILKYTT]

I think Ashe still owns her high class but she just finds her current life more fulfilling.

[@TTMILKYTT]

Maybe she’s a big lesbian and that explains the makeup and masculine clothing

[@stanleybarwick8361]

Name one Overwatch hero with a happy backstory.

[@mavelgeek1997]

Brigette she doesn't have a sad story, so I'd say that her story is more inspiring compared to Moira for example.

[@darkomihajlovski3135]

Hamon the facility blowing up didn't relly matter to him

[@ВадимТенек]

7:10 AHAHAHAHA XD

[@gigas115]

About the skin tone, even in most of the comic-style parts of the video, her skin is much more pale than it is on the model.

[@naghtel1228]

I’m conflicted between clicking the like button because I liked this video or the dislike button for its sake after that end card speech

[@zynitra9104]

OMG yay

[@dragonflight2468]

TB, we all know why she has white and red eyes. Cause blizz clearly has a hard on for it. Ashe, the new character in Heroes, and now the female Monk in Diablo. Yes really.

[@rafael471992]

Isn't it logical to assume that Hammond, due to his massive intelligence, has a coinciense and cannot be considered an animal anymore? I mean he can't speak due to his physiology but other than that he seems as "human" as Winston.

[@TBSkyen]

I mean the debate over the nature of consciousness and personhood is a really long and contentious one in philosophy, so I'm not sure it's quite that simple.

[@johnrush6304]

i think she is a miss as kaisa she dont looks like a surviver

[@Pedropaulopoloni]

I didn't like her because I'm not so into Overwatch lore, so when I first saw her it was like. ''hmm ok, she's a thief, looks like a cowboy, mkay. Cool headshots, nice sharpshooter stuff wait is that a robot? where did this came from? what does the robot that punches people have to do with the girl that wants to keep away so she can shoot?'' Idk, I just don't like how her ultimate move is another person and does not have anything to do with the rest of her kit. Yes Bob can shoot but that's not enough.

[@MinhNguyen-vq9ry]

The end card makes me feel bad that I didn't press dislike

[@baragent]

One huge thing about her outfit: she evokes the Confederacy from the US Civil War. She looks like a general or officer. Part of that is because she IS the leader of a gang-not just any gang, but a conglomerate of gangs. She wants to be known as the one in authority, and the military look is part of that.

[@ngannguyen-un1ef]

B.O.B look like braum

[@m.i.a.826]

I don't think Ashe can be an albino, considering what I know of them. She shouldn't be able to stay out in the sun with that much skin exposed without getting horribly burnt from her lack of melanin. Then again, Zarya has pink hair.....

[@GregerMoek]

Making me feel bad for a dislike button. You almost tricked me into clicking it.

[@ashb712]

I can't imagine wearing a layered black outfit in the sweltering heat of the western deserts. How tf isnt her makeup just running from the sheer sweat? I bet she smells awful.

[@angelaphsiao]

I feel so touched... I had no idea the dislike button had such a hard life... I’m gonna go dislike all your videos to support the dislike button!

[@mileslugo6430]

I ship Ashe and Bob