What's the difference between an MP 43/1 and an STG 44? With firearms expert Jonathan Ferguson

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Royal Armouries

Royal Armouries

Жыл бұрын

The Nazis pioneered the development of the assault rifle and the intermediate cartridge in the latter half of the Second World War. It led to a host of weapons under different designations with seemingly little (to nothing) to separate individual models. Jonathan Ferguson explains the difference between the MP 43/1 and the STG 44.
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@TheOldMan-75
@TheOldMan-75 Жыл бұрын
Hey, Jonathan. I hope this hasn't been done before (If so, I wasn't able to find it) but I'd be very interested in a video about the life cycle of a gun in the royal armouries. This would probably be a more elaborate video but I'd love to see what happens to a gun once it arrives at the museum, what makes you choose a specific gun for an exhibition and how it is maybe prepared beforehand etc.. Basically the whole process and inner-workings of the royal armouries in regards to guns. Anyway, love your content and happy new year :)
@rtmanes88
@rtmanes88 Жыл бұрын
Seconded, I'd love the inside look on this, or even knowing what Jonathan's "typical day" looks like.
@wunderoff
@wunderoff Жыл бұрын
that would be awesome to see
@jamescameron6819
@jamescameron6819 Жыл бұрын
I think this is a fantastic idea
@richarddixon7276
@richarddixon7276 Жыл бұрын
That would be excellent and incredibly interesting , but would probably take several days to film & edit . But it would be right up My street .
@razor1uk610
@razor1uk610 Жыл бұрын
@The Old Man *_Forgotten Weapons_* channel has 3 to 5 or so videos on YT about the Sturmgewhrs, all together roughly an hour and a halves worth.
@Grasyl
@Grasyl Жыл бұрын
5:34 The lineage is even longer, the MKb42(h) was previously known as: sMP42 - schwere Maschinenpistole 42 / heavy sub-machinegun 42 MP42 - Maschinenpistole 42 / just sub machinegun 42 (heavy was removed) MP42s - Maschinenpistole 42 schwer / sub machinegun 42 heavy (the heavy was re added but to the end) MK42 - Maschinenkarabiner 42 / machinecarbine short MK, until the Germans notices the MK was already in use for "maschinenkanone" (autocannon / lit. machinecannon) MKb.42 - Maschinenkarabiner 42 / machinecarbine (this time written MKb. to prevent confusion with MK) MKb.42(h) - the (h) was not added untill Walther joint the competition. MKb.42 H.S. - Heanel had planed to make another MKb. to prevent confusion the one from Hugo Schmeisser was labes H.S. (Haenel Schmeisser)
@penedrador
@penedrador Жыл бұрын
I am so happy we have you and Ian in this space. Deep, calm and thorough content about the guns, whereas most gun channels turned loud and fast = funny = views I like demo ranch and alike, but the deep knowledge you share is just smth else.
@superpeabody2658
@superpeabody2658 Жыл бұрын
What about forgotten weapons?
@Earthinet
@Earthinet Жыл бұрын
@@superpeabody2658 Ian is the guy in forgotten weapons (also known as Gun Jesus). He mentioned him in the first sentence.
@fuckinantipope5511
@fuckinantipope5511 Жыл бұрын
Also no politics from these two, especially american politics. For Jonathan it of course makes sense as he's from the UK but countless american gun channels use their platform to promote some sort of politics or make stupid jokes (like the typical one "hurr durr, liberals wanna take our guns). As a non-american that can be quite annoying, which made me stop watching countless channels. But Ian keeps it all out of his videos and that makes him even better than he already is
@Valsorayu
@Valsorayu 8 ай бұрын
@@fuckinantipope5511 Eh americans will be americans. Whether that is a good thing or a bad thing is purely to taste.
@Adrian-qk2fn
@Adrian-qk2fn Жыл бұрын
11.25 "This little sticky outy bit..." You've just got to love Jonathan's precise technical descriptions.
@XxxXxx-to8is
@XxxXxx-to8is Жыл бұрын
Jonathan's knowledge is amazing.
@richarddixon7276
@richarddixon7276 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jonathan , I always learn something new when I watch a Royal Armouries video .
@KnifeChatswithTobias
@KnifeChatswithTobias Жыл бұрын
Interesting thoughts on how the STG 44 started become cruder as the war turned for Germany as well as the the introduction of genuine last ditch weapons. Reminds me of the reverse as you watch the The Sten go from a truly dreadfully finished Mk I and more prevalent Mk II to the Mk V that actually had places to put your hands and the luxury of mounting a useless bayonet!
@XtreeM_FaiL
@XtreeM_FaiL Жыл бұрын
Time is money.
@TheWirksworthGunroom
@TheWirksworthGunroom Жыл бұрын
In my research into the STEN, one of my first discoveries was that Mk.I and Mk.II STENs were being trialled together at the same time, before adoption of either. I have a HUGE amount of more research to do but this was a very surprising early find. This was from he Archive at the Royal Armouries, Leeds, courtesy of Jonathan and colleagues. Must find time to do more!
@kamata93
@kamata93 Жыл бұрын
Thats because it was designed with no thought for the user. They had to add these things.
@MrDwarfpitcher
@MrDwarfpitcher Жыл бұрын
there is a cold war simplified version of the Sten. It was then that the British realised that the Sten´s basics were the most basic it could go.
@kingleech16
@kingleech16 11 ай бұрын
What is this heresy!?! There is no such thing as a useless bayonet!!! Now I have to upload pictures of my incredibly clever and useful Stinger launcher with bayonet, or my bayonet equipped MATV, or the extremely deadly bayonet mount for my laptop!
@petethebastard
@petethebastard Жыл бұрын
LOL! ..."sticky-outy bit" being a technical term, of course! Great vid.
@iDEATH
@iDEATH Жыл бұрын
I'm a life long gun nerd and a social media denier, and I think these videos stand on their own just fine. Love the content you guys put up on this channel, don't you worry about that, just keep it coming!
@RonnocYad
@RonnocYad Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing on this very social and media focused platform!
@fyretnt
@fyretnt Жыл бұрын
@@RonnocYad i think he mean stuff like TikTok/Snapchat/instagram
@ihcfn
@ihcfn Жыл бұрын
I really do love this series!
@GeneralJackRipper
@GeneralJackRipper Жыл бұрын
I saw a picture of captured weapons in Iraq back in 2004, and aside from the AK variants and ubiquitous SVD, there was one lone STG at the end of the row.
@ManDuderGuy
@ManDuderGuy Жыл бұрын
Cant believe there's still enough of the ammo left to actually feed them.
@maShine
@maShine Жыл бұрын
There were alot STGs in the syrina conflict
@mikeblair2594
@mikeblair2594 Жыл бұрын
@@ManDuderGuy There's more than enough, not to mention reloading. If you're against the US you could probably have the Chinese run up a large batch for ya. Not to mention that the Russians were giving the north Vietnamese a metric shit-ton of these and the ammo to keep'em in the fight for some time.
@mikeblair2594
@mikeblair2594 Жыл бұрын
@@ManDuderGuy There's more than enough, not to mention reloading. If you're against the US you could probably have the Chinese run up a large batch for ya. Not to mention that the Russians were giving the north Vietnamese a metric shit-ton of these and the ammo to keep'em in the fight for some time.
@wills2140
@wills2140 Жыл бұрын
@ManDuderGuy Prvi Partisan used to make 7.92 kurtz till fairly recently. As Jonathan said Yugoslavia had ... "acquired" a substantial number of these rifles at the end of WWII. So they would have reason to seek out supplies like ammo and spares, for some years after that.
@kepanoid
@kepanoid Жыл бұрын
Jonathan (and the whole team at The Royal Armouries), thank you again for the magnificent information you provide! Just one little suggestion, though. Is there any way you could get more light? I do appreciate the dark theme, but earlier, on footage filmed in the conference room, we were able to actually see the item(s) you presented.
@wills2140
@wills2140 Жыл бұрын
Good comment! This is something I have been meaning to comment on.
@robwilkes3351
@robwilkes3351 Жыл бұрын
I'm not one to tell a firearms expert about his job but... the term assault rifle is not problematic beyond the fact that some people think that semi-automatic rifles are assault rifles. The real problem term (at least here in the U.S.) is "assault weapon".
@MegadethTillDeth
@MegadethTillDeth Жыл бұрын
Very informative and enjoyable
@dominantasmr578
@dominantasmr578 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I think you're one of the best GunTubers out there. I'm obsessed with watching anything you touch.
@MediocreHexPeddler
@MediocreHexPeddler Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call Jonathan a "guntuber." He works at the Royal Armouries; the KZbin channel is a side gig, and more persons from the Royal Armouries than just Jonathan have appeared on the channel. That said, I agree that he's one of the best in the business, such as it is, second perhaps only to Ian of Forgotten Weapons. Ian has been doing video presentations longer, and works more with auction companies and collections than museums, so he perhaps has fewer direct resources, but certainly more experience doing the actual presentation side of things.
@justsomehaatonpassingby4488
@justsomehaatonpassingby4488 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the Gun Jesus from Forgotten weapons
@kebabsvein1
@kebabsvein1 Жыл бұрын
Do you have examples of the MkB 42 development i.e the Henchel and Walther wariants? Anyway fun video as always! Happy new year to Jonathan and the team!
@raymondgill9796
@raymondgill9796 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating and informative.
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 Жыл бұрын
A lovely presentation and thanks for it. Liked and shared.
@Convoycrazy
@Convoycrazy 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the wealth of information, very enjoyable video.
@totensiebush
@totensiebush Жыл бұрын
I remember hearing somewhere (FW?) that the reason for the elimination of the optic rails on the rear sight base is that it simply wasn't repeatable enough to hold zero well enough to be worth using.
@domsphotography
@domsphotography Жыл бұрын
The East German’s equipped African nations/ guerrilla units with them in the 1960’s/70’s
@stuartp2006
@stuartp2006 Жыл бұрын
If I was an engineer sitting between all these weapons, I'd probably say that the AK (which is the contentious post-war design) is a conglomeration of the M1 Garand and the STG44. Uniquely from the STG44 being the short rifle cartridge and the over-barrel design of the gas piston. The specifics of what gun gets invented where lag behind the necessities of war, and that goes for the shape of the gun (which a lot comes from cheap stamping requirements). Mass produced enough and it becomes a "hero gun", even after that war is over. But it seems weird that the idea that the AK is just an STG44 knock-off is one that pops up pretty persistently. idk there are limited number of ways to port energy into rotation etc
@Mrgunsngear
@Mrgunsngear Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@MrJerrycampbell
@MrJerrycampbell Жыл бұрын
Apparently, PSA announced at the 2023 SHOT show, they were introducting a slightly modernized Stg 44 with fairly simple caliber conversion between 8mm Kurz, 5.56, 300 Blackout and 7.62x39. A version you can shoot a lot and get spare parts for.
@Deblanch57
@Deblanch57 Жыл бұрын
You mean you can now kit up a Sturmgehwer, same as you can an AR-15 ??? .....
@u4ia_fubar_75
@u4ia_fubar_75 Жыл бұрын
This is why I love your videos, I thought they only made one version of the gun. Every time I watch a video I learn something new. 😀👍
@sunnyfrisch
@sunnyfrisch Жыл бұрын
The mount for the optics was also meant for the ZG 1229 Vampire, or Zielgerät (Zielgeraet; aiming device) 1229 Vampir, which had been in development around that time as well.
@chooseyouhandle
@chooseyouhandle Жыл бұрын
This is a proper assault rifle
@modeltraingeek6544
@modeltraingeek6544 Жыл бұрын
What great vid This is so interesting thank you 😊
@cosmo9882
@cosmo9882 Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you 👍😎
@afd19850
@afd19850 Жыл бұрын
Back once again its the Gamespot master! Jonathan with the STG behaviour!
@Dogbertious
@Dogbertious Жыл бұрын
Bizarre to hear of crates of the MP/STG 43/44 turning up in Syria. I wonder if the people who found/provided them realised what they had on their hands. Fairly certain there would've been a long queue of American collectors who would've paid a pretty penny for a good quality example.
@snowflakemelter1172
@snowflakemelter1172 Жыл бұрын
Exporting from a war zone .
@kber6288
@kber6288 Жыл бұрын
but the average american collector can not buy them. they are limited to what is already registered, and this Registry was closed in 1986. that's why the prices are so high. so only dealers with licence for FA guns could buy them as samples, maybe for a reference collection. and that market is very limited. I'm quite sure there is no resell market to LE for this old guns, they will prefer more modern guns. makes it quite hard to argue why a dealer should stock them
@TheSundayShooter
@TheSundayShooter Жыл бұрын
Jonathon mentioned the latest units lacking QC, so maybe those grapes were sour anyway ;~;
@allangibson8494
@allangibson8494 Жыл бұрын
They were shipped to Syria by the French in 1948 along with Panzer IV tanks… And because the weren’t in the US before 1986, they can’t be registered and are therefore illegal… (though you could import them as parts kits if the gun is cut in half through the receiver).
@j.robertsergertson4513
@j.robertsergertson4513 Жыл бұрын
Lol , they're still being used in the Ukraine today
@snowflakemelter1172
@snowflakemelter1172 Жыл бұрын
The steel handguard is a fundamental design flaw, I wonder why they stuck with it ?
@STdoubleDs
@STdoubleDs Жыл бұрын
Good quality lumber was becoming very hard to come by by the time the STG was adopted. It’s one of the reasons why the K98 went to having laminated stocks mid war.
@zoiders
@zoiders Жыл бұрын
You will be wearing gloves regardless in freezing conditions.
@snowflakemelter1172
@snowflakemelter1172 Жыл бұрын
@@zoiders WW2 wasn't fought just in cold climates.
@snowflakemelter1172
@snowflakemelter1172 Жыл бұрын
@@STdoubleDs true, but im thinking of the last ditch VG weapons which all had wood stocks and hand guards so there must have been timber available.
@STdoubleDs
@STdoubleDs Жыл бұрын
@@snowflakemelter1172 It ultimately came down to German logistical doctrine later in the war. If the majority of the parts of the STG were going to be made out of stampings, why complicate the manufacturing with another piece of wood or bakelite when the metal fabricators that are trained in metal work can stamp out a stopgap/replaceable part in one tenth the time. The vg1-5 and vg-5 rifles used short stock configurations where the piece of wood being used didn’t have to be a long piece of knot free hard wood. They were essentially putting crude, minimalist hunting stocks on their last ditch weapon designs.
Жыл бұрын
Very interesting
@spektakelkd
@spektakelkd Жыл бұрын
Jonathan Ferguson is an absolute treasure. Love the content !
@Flaming_Donkey
@Flaming_Donkey Жыл бұрын
Hi! Could you guys do a video on the stoner 63?
@James-nl6fu
@James-nl6fu 11 ай бұрын
This German mp44/stg44 is clearly the inspiration for the AK 47. Though the ak shared some features with the equaly tough and reliable M14 garand
@robertmiller2173
@robertmiller2173 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic Thanks, so well done; cripes my dad would have liked one of these in Greece, Crete, North Africa, and Italy with the 20th Battalion of the New Zealand Army. The 303 Enfield wasn't that bad!
@DARIVSARCHITECTVS
@DARIVSARCHITECTVS Жыл бұрын
One of the main reasons Hitler did not want production to start on MP-43 production was not only that it appeared ugly to him, but there was an ammunition shortage which would be made worse with introduction of a new cartridge, 8mm kurz.
@grahamrankin4725
@grahamrankin4725 Жыл бұрын
Having a light grey table cloth rather than black would make it easier to see the weapons. Also better lighting for the closeups is needed.
@Torque_Mk1
@Torque_Mk1 Жыл бұрын
11:21 "Sticky-outy bit" And that's how Jonathan Ferguson became the first honorary 'umie mekboy.
@KadeKillz
@KadeKillz Жыл бұрын
I demand a collab of Jonathan with Gun Jesus (Ian McCallum [Forgotten Weapons]) Cause this is just so good! I think they'd both be an amazing little series! :D
@Roaproductiondk
@Roaproductiondk Жыл бұрын
I second that!
@AKUJIVALDO
@AKUJIVALDO Жыл бұрын
Demand? Start paying first!
@mikeblair2594
@mikeblair2594 Жыл бұрын
Didn't they do that in the desert a few years ago?
@mog398
@mog398 Жыл бұрын
They have done! Go look up their bullpup video!
@vodkareality2796
@vodkareality2796 Жыл бұрын
Quick question. Will this rifle give me emotional support like your STG 44 does? 😂
@kolega4ever
@kolega4ever Жыл бұрын
Johnathan, have you ever thought of showcasing a cartridge (I mean specific cartridge for example Balle D not overall 7x50mm R) on a What is this weapon or in RA's YT channel? It would be awesome as heck to see that
@derekp2674
@derekp2674 Жыл бұрын
I keep threatening to throw a certain cartridge in as a side match there but have not got round to doing it yet...
@wills2140
@wills2140 Жыл бұрын
6:07 "... and we have examples of those too ( the two manufactures of Mkb - 42 )..." and I look forward to the day those rather interesting Mkb-42 (W) and (H) rifles are featured in a video here. Thanks to Jonathan and The Royal Armouries for this video! (:
@wills2140
@wills2140 Жыл бұрын
27:37 thank you so much for mentioning the Vickers Guide book on this rifle ( and other WWII designs ). Larry Vickers has a long association with H K and WWII era German firearms, an expert in the field if there ever was one. Larry has had a rough couple of years, and I am sure he appreciates his work being mentioned here. Thanks again.
@genericpersonx333
@genericpersonx333 Жыл бұрын
I recall the Americans had a similar debate about whether or not the M1 Garand rifle could replace all other arms in the rifle squad and potentially the platoon. Shows a lot about how much doctrine was wedded to the basic capabilities of the repeating rifles. Moment someone has a weapon of similar bulk that can shoot a lot more in a hurry, people start dreaming that one gun can do it all.
@romaliop
@romaliop Жыл бұрын
It's a necessity really. Keep in mind that the previous doctrines have been based on what the platoons previously were armed with, so any major change into the dynamic not only leads to new possibilities, but potentially also new problems if you just continue with the old doctrine.
@parallel-knight
@parallel-knight Жыл бұрын
The MKB-42 (H) is an awesome looking weapon. Red orchestra 2 one of my fav guns to use
@ZaGaijinSmash
@ZaGaijinSmash 7 ай бұрын
I love this content but I’d love it even more with better lighting and seeing the weapons against a light or white table
@mayfieldcourt
@mayfieldcourt Жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very informative and expert video. But please can we fix the lighting of these videos? My eyesight is not what it was, it would be super to be able to see the detail. Thank you for your work to bring the collection to a wider audience. Bravo!
@wills2140
@wills2140 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I have been meaning to comment that this location and specifically the table covering are too dark to see details. Good comment.
@kot0472
@kot0472 Жыл бұрын
What's wrong with the light?
@Azguella
@Azguella Жыл бұрын
One of these guns is the one Jonathan hugs after doing video with GameSpot and seeing all the cursed guns they have concocted
@hakes187
@hakes187 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a day at the range with that collection..that would be a fun watch
@wills2140
@wills2140 Жыл бұрын
It would be fun. Also high risk and a bit expensive ( current pricing on ammo being what it is, let alone if a rifle were damaged ). We would not likely see a "range" video from Royal Armouries, it is not really in their normal work ( other than extracting samples of a fired bullet - which they rarely show ). Others have fired several original and put together parts kits here on youtube. I recommend both Larry Vickers and Forgotten Weapons because they have good footage and outstanding information, just search for each model.
@hakes187
@hakes187 Жыл бұрын
@Will S I get that, there are plenty of other videos of people shooting similar guns on the tube
@megu2328
@megu2328 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on the MkB?
@tHeWasTeDYouTh
@tHeWasTeDYouTh Жыл бұрын
please do a video in which you tear down the Solothurn S3-200 belt fed. Also I hope you can also make a video on the Solothurn S2-200 magazine fed
@joshboy1st
@joshboy1st Жыл бұрын
Great vid Jonathan Ferguson, also the stocks are diffrent mp43 is bigger lol (: keep the vids rolling all the best!
@gooeygulby90
@gooeygulby90 Жыл бұрын
25 minutes of Stg44 ASMR -- yes please
@attilakecskemethy793
@attilakecskemethy793 Жыл бұрын
Is there any chance that you got a piece of the earlier variants of this gun like the Mkb 42 H, or the MKb 42 W. If yes I would love to see Jonathans thoughts on them.
@bbcmotd
@bbcmotd Жыл бұрын
Please make an episode about PPD-38, 38/40, PPSh-41, PPSh-2, PPS-42, PPS-43 etc.
@jonathanbohm6489
@jonathanbohm6489 Жыл бұрын
I hope Jonathan reviews the GM-94 pump action Grenade Launcher behind him soon aka the Russian China Lake (but official)
@MakeItWithJim
@MakeItWithJim Жыл бұрын
You should a grey or white table cloth!
@FG42
@FG42 Жыл бұрын
An interesting thing is why the Mp43/1 was special. The highest one I have seen is a registered one in the us at serial number 3xxxk/44. The Mp43/1 except for a few instances always had the heaven barrel. However Haenel did not use different serial number ranges. The MP43/1, Mp43, Mp44 & StG44 are all in consecutive numbers. There are no set blocks unless of course the dies wore out and the designation was no longer made, in which case it disappears from the produced nomenclature. There is more to the Mp43/1 barrel than is understood at this time.
@FG42
@FG42 Жыл бұрын
A hypothetical example of consecutive numbers would be: Mp43/1 1001g/44 Mp43. 1002g/44 Mp44. 1003g/44 StG44. 1004g/44 The MKb 42(H) had its own serial number range.
@Cats-TM
@Cats-TM 6 ай бұрын
20:00 To be fair, the US also had the Garand so ya' know, self loading rifles are pretty convenient. They were still using the Springfield so, not completely self-loading.
@deadstop4434
@deadstop4434 Жыл бұрын
You should do one on the mp 3008 if you have one in the collection
@petershearn2974
@petershearn2974 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jonathan, we going to see an fg42 segment on here soon.??
@MsJoao101
@MsJoao101 Жыл бұрын
aaaa the sticky outy bit... kkkk... the mostest technical term...
@kenns9
@kenns9 2 ай бұрын
hello where/when did you get the two samples you have there? thanks
@csipawpaw7921
@csipawpaw7921 Жыл бұрын
I believe the real problem governments had with adopting semi and full automatic weapons was the cost and logistics of manufacture and transport of the new weapon along with a much larger volume of ammunition.
@chrisbrent7487
@chrisbrent7487 Жыл бұрын
I imagine the HUB-23 suppressor would probably fit it. It used the same attachment method as the Schiessbecher (grenade launcher). I have only ever seen photos of rusted out battlefield recovered ones though.
@fatbloke2285
@fatbloke2285 Жыл бұрын
Quite simply, yet another great and informative vid Jonathan. One day you might stop surpassing yourself!!!
@hairydogstail
@hairydogstail 10 ай бұрын
Eugene Stoner and James Sullivan first saw constant recoil in the MP-44..Stoner called it that run out thing..
@stephenhester9804
@stephenhester9804 Жыл бұрын
The Buttstock on the 43/1 looks bigger as well.
@albertborgman859
@albertborgman859 Жыл бұрын
It's a Machine Pistol 43 with an improved cartridge used fur flank security for the MG-42. Even if the user is not the squad leader equivalent. Borgmann- for Borgman Royal Archives.
@Grasyl
@Grasyl Жыл бұрын
3:17 I thought the term "Assault Rifle" derives from the Lewis-"Assault Phase Rifle" from 1916 naming the rifle after the "Assault Phase" of trench warfare ..
@kraig800i
@kraig800i 4 ай бұрын
Does the Royal Armories Have any of the East German wieger stg.940 series ? ? ? I've only just found out about it them and there's very few videos online.
@peterconnan5631
@peterconnan5631 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are always interesting, but I often find myself staring at the two target rifles in the row behind you and wandering what they are...
@hoodoo2001
@hoodoo2001 Жыл бұрын
I have a .22 version based externally on the Stg 44 same size and all, not sure about the weight.... semi auto but great fun and looks pretty cool. A US start-up tried to manufacture semi-auto replicas in 8mm Kurz and 7.62/39 (I think) but it appears that they failed and a lot of people lost deposits. They got close I understand but never got over the hump.
@ragingjaguarknight86
@ragingjaguarknight86 Жыл бұрын
I've got myself one too. Mine is a GSG StG-44 in .22LR. I mounted an ACOG clone on it, so I get some looks when I take it to the range. ^_^
@MrJerrycampbell
@MrJerrycampbell Жыл бұрын
PSA announced introduction of it this year at SHOT show 2023.
@halo3jocky
@halo3jocky Жыл бұрын
The stamping by the magazine appears to be different from the MP43/1 and MP43, too
@jackmatthews939
@jackmatthews939 Жыл бұрын
Does Royal Armouries have an MKB 42H in its possession?
@austinpowersfasjer
@austinpowersfasjer Жыл бұрын
Beautiful gun, ahead of its time
@bartb7790
@bartb7790 Жыл бұрын
Jonathan, I can be mistaken, but isn't the buttstock different? It also showed up in the Dutch East Indies and Vietnam.
@tarjei99
@tarjei99 Жыл бұрын
I think the Rumanians produced 7.92mm kurtz well after the war.
@strangesignal9757
@strangesignal9757 2 ай бұрын
Is there any info about the STG 45? It's very difficult to find about.
@RabeHK
@RabeHK Жыл бұрын
So, does something marked MP43 give the same emotional support as the Stgw 44? When you say heavier than a first gen AK fo you mean type 1 stamped ones or the milled variant they switched to due to problems?
@alexandruianu8432
@alexandruianu8432 Жыл бұрын
It's heavier even than the type 2 (the first milled pattern). I think it's nearly 5 kg.
@yoochoob1858
@yoochoob1858 Жыл бұрын
When I saw this I thought "GREAT! I'll bet the royal armouries has pristine examples of all the variants, can't wait to see" ... 7 minutes later they're finally on the table and I start playing "spot the differences" and then watch a slow progression through the differences, and a slightly jumbled run through of the history. As for all the differences being in front of the receiver: those two have different versions of buttstock, as you mentioned.
@jankusthegreat9233
@jankusthegreat9233 7 ай бұрын
I'm falling in love with your beard
@geodkyt
@geodkyt Жыл бұрын
I would disagree with the idea a standard assault rifle can replace the SMG. It can replace the SMG in general infantry service, but unless you go to a very cut down version (like the AKSU74), not as good a fit for the AFV crew defensive gun. (I'll disregard utterly the very niche roles, like VIP protection or special operations types with specialty requirements- the number of those users, compared to the overall army, is a rounding error.) If you argue that the SMG can be fully replaced in conventional military service by cut down variants like the AKSU74, then you have to accept assaukt rifle variants like the RPK and the USMC's IAR as legitimate "assault rifles", and they have absolutely established the *squad* / *section* level LMG can be replaced by an assault rifle variant (provided the base rifle platform isn't crap, like the L85/L86)... or at worst, a dedicated LMG (FN Minimi, HK MG4, Ultimax, Negev, etc.), in the intermediate cartridge (again, provided the LMG isn't crap ([cough, cough] CETME Ameli)), even if some use cases might call for pushing the "full power" GPMGs down to the squad/section level.
@derekp2674
@derekp2674 Жыл бұрын
Once you go to needing a more compact weapon for vehicle crews, then you might choose an SMG (L2A3) or a PDW or a Carbine (L22A2).
@ichimonjiguy
@ichimonjiguy Жыл бұрын
If the AFV crews in the vehicle, they can fight with the weapons mounted on the vehicle. They don't need sub-compact weapon to defend themselves. If the AFV crews fighting outside the vehicle, the space constrain is gone. Therefore, the standard infantry weapon (whatever it may be) will suit them just fine.
@Kav.
@Kav. Жыл бұрын
@@ichimonjiguy it's more about being able to store and then get out of the vehicle with the weapon. Watch Oxides video on Russian tanker kit, it demonstrates the point quite well.
@natanreb
@natanreb Жыл бұрын
Not all of the MP43/1 rifles have the ZF41 rail on the back sight tower. Mp43/1 still had a some of the left over MKB42H parts, Stock, barrel. muzzle nut and sight tower.
@janemauer51
@janemauer51 Жыл бұрын
I read somewhere one of the reasons for not replacing “standard weapons “ was ammunition production Having to switch to short cartridge production, would compromise the product of the standard cartridge Also there was millions of standard cartridges in storage
@ManDuderGuy
@ManDuderGuy Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's a logistical feat to add another cartridge, I can sympathize with the old geezers who just wanted to stick with 1 pistol cartridge and 1 rifle cartridge.
@AKUJIVALDO
@AKUJIVALDO Жыл бұрын
Not really, machine guns with full power cartridge were there to stay. Suppression fire at long range was needed in WW2, especially in Eastern Front. US experienced that range disadvantage in Iran and Afghanistan where freedom fighters had full power rifles.
@williamzk9083
@williamzk9083 7 ай бұрын
@@AKUJIVALDOThe German army wanted to replace every rifle and every MG42 and every MP40 in the 12 man squad. The MG42 would be kicked up past platoon level to brigade level.
@dylanoleary7997
@dylanoleary7997 Жыл бұрын
If this isn't the best lunch time treat!
@apathtrampledbydeer8446
@apathtrampledbydeer8446 Жыл бұрын
The man should introduce himself as: Hi my name is Jonathan Gigachad Legend King of Yorkshire Ferguson. A really beautiful gun, despite it's spicy origin story.
@davidrobertsemail
@davidrobertsemail Жыл бұрын
If you want a new one you can buy them off Palmetto state armory later this year. The PSA STG 44 will be available in four chamberings: 8mm Kurtz, 5.56/.223, .300 Blackout, and 7.62x39mm.
@las10plagas
@las10plagas Жыл бұрын
the coolest thing is, after I've watched an episode of your videos or by forgotten weapons, I can play with that weapon in VR, because in H3VR many of these weapons are either in the game or can be modded into :) of course not every single one but some of them are ;-)
@Eric-kn4yn
@Eric-kn4yn Жыл бұрын
It's a handsome piece
@BigLisaFan
@BigLisaFan Жыл бұрын
That would be my dream job working in a place among all that history.
@stevemc6010
@stevemc6010 Жыл бұрын
In Battlefield V you can actually swap between the larger and smaller stocks in the cosmetic customization Edit: that grenade launcher segment is great
@rosaria8384
@rosaria8384 Жыл бұрын
The smaller stock is a wire stock, definitely rendering the gun inoperable due to the stock having a recoil spring
@stevemc6010
@stevemc6010 Жыл бұрын
@@rosaria8384 I'm not talking about the wire stock, that's a different thing. It has the different sized wood stocks as seen in this video.
@F1ghteR41
@F1ghteR41 Жыл бұрын
5:52 On that note, I wonder why did the East Germans call their AKs MPi rather than MKb? The latter designation would both follow the older German terminology and align better with the Soviet one (автоматический карабин - automatic carbine). 7:42 I notice a slight difference in buttstock shape, is that related to some sort of later repair? 10:41 It is my understanding that such style of front sight protector was considered customary on German military rifles at that time. Similar problems are reported to occur with Kar.98k, and Germans had plenty of time to change the design, especially since the annexation of Czechoslovakia they got their hands on a better style of front sight protector as used on Vz. 24 rifles. 18:45 What about the Isaac Lewis's 'assault phase rifle' of 1918? 21:05 These were in Syrian army service some time in the 1960s (possibly acquired from Czechoslovakia), as far as I know the last photo of them used is dated to the early '70s, and after that they were likely put in storage.
@pyeitme508
@pyeitme508 Жыл бұрын
Yep 👍
@gotindrachenhart
@gotindrachenhart Жыл бұрын
As I understood it, Sturmgewehr basically translated to something akin to "storm rifle", as in "to storm an objective" or "storm the beach", i.e. to assault something. So it was the weapon used in assaults etc.. And this is the dawn of the term assault rifle, right?
@mikeblair2594
@mikeblair2594 Жыл бұрын
I'm impressed with your German and how you can connect the words storm rifle to assault rifle. Bravo!
@PURPLECATDUDE7734
@PURPLECATDUDE7734 Жыл бұрын
They’re useful for fire support and also emotional support
@hughbeein1265
@hughbeein1265 Ай бұрын
Question; The reduced power cartridge was also available in the form of the M1 carbine, which came first?
@jordansmith4040
@jordansmith4040 Жыл бұрын
What about the STG 45 prototype?
@iamAwesomo1994
@iamAwesomo1994 6 ай бұрын
there needs to be an STG for AR/AK foreign exchange program.
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