What's the Difference Between Cleave and Dismantle? | Jujutsu Kaisen

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manganimist

manganimist

4 ай бұрын

Let's talk about what the difference is between Sukuan's two slashing attacks: Cleave and Dismantle in Jujutsu Kaisen.
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@LionKingofWrath
@LionKingofWrath 4 ай бұрын
I always understood dismantle as sukuna's way of figuring out the durability of something. When he knows how durable it is. He adjusts cleave to one, and done.
@SassyPest
@SassyPest 4 ай бұрын
But doens't cleave automatically operates that way
@usmansubhani7482
@usmansubhani7482 4 ай бұрын
@@SassyPestI’m pretty sure no technique adjusts automatically. It’s probably adjusted for the sake of not wasting energy. If he cut more than he needed, then he’d run out of Cursed Energy against tough opponents. Yuta and Gojo have shown how essential it becomes to be efficient with energy at all times.
@RealMrZenin
@RealMrZenin 3 ай бұрын
⁠@@usmansubhani7482gojos infinity does adjust automatically though
@jordanpro4480
@jordanpro4480 3 ай бұрын
Sukuna? Run out of CE? U fr rn?
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 3 ай бұрын
​@usmansubhani7482 cleave is stated by narrator to adjust to the target's ce level to cut them in a single attack
@ThatsGirdy
@ThatsGirdy 4 ай бұрын
I don't understand how so many people get this confused. As you said, to keep it simple, if he shoots it out, it's dismantling, but if he makes physical contact it's cleave.
@ericb8241
@ericb8241 4 ай бұрын
Like the 300 ft net cleave he used on kashimo like 200 ft away? That’s not physical contact
@kwebvin9939
@kwebvin9939 4 ай бұрын
@@ericb8241 That's World-Slash Dismantle, you probably read a yee yee translation
@kwebvin9939
@kwebvin9939 4 ай бұрын
@@ericb8241 Proof: "That's the World Bisecting slash that killed Gojo Satoru!" or something like that
@Zero-hr3gg
@Zero-hr3gg 4 ай бұрын
​​​​​@@ericb8241the attack that sukuna use to cutt off gojo & kashimo, all of that is dismantle. You can see sukuna saying "dismantle" or "kai" to cut off kashimo's arm. But that dismantle has property to cut the space, so is more powerful. To make it simple, dismantle is just launch slashing attack for range attack, but for cleve sukuna need to touch the object to measure the power of slashing by CE (except inside domain because surehit effect)
@sohamchitkara2643
@sohamchitkara2643 4 ай бұрын
@@ericb8241 that is the world slash attack and it is a part of dismantle as sukuna says "dismantle" after enchanting
@pw3ninja
@pw3ninja 4 ай бұрын
as a former kitchen worker. this is how i had it.... CLEAVE = CHOP DISMANTLE = FILET
@Kenjaku_Kains
@Kenjaku_Kains 4 ай бұрын
Nahhh💀
@garykeller2007
@garykeller2007 4 ай бұрын
Oh yeah it was a dismantle and that actually makes sense too. Naaah divided by his weaker technique is crazy 😂
@windygrass9807
@windygrass9807 4 ай бұрын
Bro is cookin in Malevolent Kitchen
@renzen4354
@renzen4354 4 ай бұрын
makes sense, since in japanese sukuna's abilities are kinda named after cooking stuff. that's where the malevolent kitchen came from, since the japanese name could be interpreted like that.
@garykeller2007
@garykeller2007 4 ай бұрын
@@renzen4354 it's a joke referring to something Sukuna said and I'm wondering if you are anime only so I can't specifically say why it's hilarious.
@jackknash
@jackknash 4 ай бұрын
3:13 made me so confused cuz of the two frames on top of each other I thought Sukuna had Mahoragas head or something and was so confused LMAO
@nachomolaolivera7580
@nachomolaolivera7580 4 ай бұрын
Oh don't worry, he does :)
@ilahazs
@ilahazs 3 ай бұрын
WTF
@al-rakib365
@al-rakib365 4 ай бұрын
Well the most easy way to explain is, Dismantle = A default projection of splashing that target everything with or without crused energy. So someone with enough CE reinforcement can survive this but a point blank one will be fatal. Cleave = A more powerful projection of slashing that adjusts itself based on CE reinforcement and hardness to one-shot the opponent but without domain expansion Sukuna needs to be in contact with his opponent to use cleave. Reality Dismantle = Basically the same as Dismantle but it targets everything within existence to project a slash which doesn’t have the weakness of normal dismentle and a better version of cleave that negates durebilty. But this needs hand signs and time to preform.
@delta2370
@delta2370 4 ай бұрын
Should mention that his cleave has a limit it can’t just one shot anything.
@imafkingbeastandrewtateise9563
@imafkingbeastandrewtateise9563 4 ай бұрын
Cleave is not a projectile
@imafkingbeastandrewtateise9563
@imafkingbeastandrewtateise9563 4 ай бұрын
Dismantle is
@Jesus.christ.your.bro.
@Jesus.christ.your.bro. 4 ай бұрын
Reality dismantle is more like a it’s chopping the space you occupy so it negates durability as it’s essentially refilling the space you’re occupying Eg. O O ~|~ --> ~|~ | (Cut space) /\ /\
@imafkingbeastandrewtateise9563
@imafkingbeastandrewtateise9563 4 ай бұрын
@@Jesus.christ.your.bro. blud thinks he’s okuyasu
@GamerZLogic
@GamerZLogic 4 ай бұрын
*In his fight with Mahoraga we saw Sukuna use a Dismantle on Mahoraga's chest but he seemed relatively unaffected however later in the fight when Sukuna made contact with his stomach he used cleave a few times which left him down and injured on the ground for a few seconds.*
@kakarotorgoku2481
@kakarotorgoku2481 4 ай бұрын
In the fight, it's actually implied that sukuna throughout the whole fight never used dismantle. Because the narrator states that cleave would suit the one hit KO unless it had adapted the slashes itself.
@float743
@float743 4 ай бұрын
@@kakarotorgoku2481Wtf is this headcanon? All translations of the manga and even the anime itself showed Sukuna using "dismantle" on Mahoraga
@kakarotorgoku2481
@kakarotorgoku2481 4 ай бұрын
@@float743 its deadass implied via the fucking translation. Plus who said he cant touch someone to dismantle them
@float743
@float743 4 ай бұрын
@@kakarotorgoku2481Are you reading with your eyes closed? Typical day of JJK fans spewing absolute nonsense
@ImpatientPlatypus
@ImpatientPlatypus 4 ай бұрын
@@kakarotorgoku2481dawg literally the first move he does on Mahoraga is dismantle
@grujson8112
@grujson8112 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing these... There's a lot of unclear and confusing stuff in jjk and you're making it all clear as day ❤
@2406west
@2406west 4 ай бұрын
Kusakabe whenever hes thinking about why sukuna hasnt used the fire arrow says that cleave is when he touches you and dismantle is when he cuts from range
@Beastgaming.9
@Beastgaming.9 4 ай бұрын
Imagine you have a knife When you throw it at someone it's Dismantle When you stab someone. It's Cleave
@ahmadhasbiyanor2251
@ahmadhasbiyanor2251 4 ай бұрын
This is great
@ilahazs
@ilahazs 3 ай бұрын
AYO WHO LET BRO COOK THIS GOOD?
@chii9028
@chii9028 3 ай бұрын
Wait.. yeah, and you can calibrate how much force you put into a direct stab, but not a throw.
@lapdance2122
@lapdance2122 3 ай бұрын
we will be cleaving on the kitchen with this one
@asonofliberty3662
@asonofliberty3662 2 ай бұрын
@@chii9028ay yoo I like that
@viggogg2192
@viggogg2192 4 ай бұрын
I've Been thinking about this a long time. Thanks for the explanation!
@jaysonblasko6153
@jaysonblasko6153 4 ай бұрын
Hell yeah, thanks for the video man! Definitely clears it up for me!
@tocatooquick1389
@tocatooquick1389 3 ай бұрын
To Simplify: Dismantle is a close or far range attack that deal 10 damage but cannot be higher or lower than that Cleave can increase or decease the damage depending on how much curse energy you put it but you MUST touch the enemy to land cleave. Only Domain Expansion allow Cleave to be used like a range attack, otherwise it stays the same.
@dylantanjiajunmontfortss2429
@dylantanjiajunmontfortss2429 Ай бұрын
yeah, sukuna's domain expansion is an instant death for anyone that isnt named gojo
@shoufox9264
@shoufox9264 3 ай бұрын
Ty for the explanation. That clear things up
@crazyand2099
@crazyand2099 4 ай бұрын
One example of them being used in the same fight is the fight with Ryu. He lifted his finger and used Dismantle which hit Ryu from a distance and cut him, but it was a shallow cut. So then Sukuna grabbed his face to use Cleave which cut Ryu's head into multiple pieces.
@cameraman9161
@cameraman9161 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for not spoiling, you are a saint
@Sappysappster
@Sappysappster 4 ай бұрын
Dismantle: A ranged attack that does flat damage (good for getting the job done since 90% of the time it'll oneshot who it hits anyways) Cleave: An attack that requires contact that scales with the opponents durability (good for much tougher obstacles)
@ghhbpolo
@ghhbpolo 4 ай бұрын
Waot, shouldn't have cleave cut straight thru sukuna in ch 250 tho?
@finalaleks.6663
@finalaleks.6663 4 ай бұрын
Literally what I've been saying​
@inksinkanimates8921
@inksinkanimates8921 4 ай бұрын
@@ghhbpolo It's his own technique, therefore he has a sort of natural ability to tank his OWN technique, like how Gojo takes less damage from Purple's detonation
@ghhbpolo
@ghhbpolo 4 ай бұрын
@@inksinkanimates8921 understandable
@hammaskeijjo6140
@hammaskeijjo6140 4 ай бұрын
@@inksinkanimates8921You could be right but wasnt the lessened effects of purple caused by it being gojos own cursed energy (not technique). Correct me if i missed something.
@paleking
@paleking 4 ай бұрын
My understanding from the image of those knives, and Sukuna’s chef-like explanation, is that his attack may be simple (a slash) but how the slash does is not. Knives are the same. A thick knife design can help for things like bones but sometimes you need something different to cut through a gourd or a fruit effectively. Cursed energy appears to add a kind of tough texture to physical objects that means Sukuna has to change his method to efficiently cut through it. Then there’s Infinity, a technique that modulates how it repels to everything in the world, like an ever-changing texture. So, how does Sukuna cut through it? He has to cut through everything with a slash that modulates like Infinity.
@Martin-lx1bi
@Martin-lx1bi 4 ай бұрын
thanks man great video
@Racher50
@Racher50 4 ай бұрын
Kusakabe literally defined them both a few chapters tho
@RandomKior
@RandomKior 4 ай бұрын
I don’t know if it’s just me but Dismantle is multiple slashes at different times while cleave is just all slashes timed perfectly
@kennysarkadi4225
@kennysarkadi4225 2 ай бұрын
Well made video
@sal_8
@sal_8 3 ай бұрын
Thank you very much, really, because I want to know about jjk but I'm afraid of spoilers, please take your deserved like
@badroboudjerda4394
@badroboudjerda4394 4 ай бұрын
Can you do i video of what the CTR of some characters might be
@windygrass9807
@windygrass9807 4 ай бұрын
He also specifically said in that "recent chapter" that the reason he cant slice them with normal dismantle is bc his ce output is getting lower and lower. In the normal circumstances he can increase the output and buffed his dismantle.
@jjjoseph4332
@jjjoseph4332 4 ай бұрын
In actuality that could mean his cleave isnt reserved for touch alone
@aloywong658
@aloywong658 4 ай бұрын
Long answerc: watch the video Short answer: Dismantle=regular slash and can be empowered(example like video game skill damage tap is low, skill damage hold is high) Cleave=slash that scales with target CE and toughness(basically tank killer like enemy hp scaling skill damage) Existence Slash=ultimate skill/buff that enhanced cleave/dismantle skill making it slash existence. Edit: dismantle slash takes random shapes, cleave slashes take a shape of a waffle iron
@atm8733
@atm8733 4 ай бұрын
Existence slash only applies to dismantle, at no point has Sukuna expanded the target of cleave, he only does it with dismantle because cleave attacks CE. Dismantle is the only slash that can be expanded to attack space and the world itself because dismantle can hit anything Sukuna targets, including inanimate objects. Cleave doesn’t hit inanimate objects, it targets anything with CE. So it can’t be expanded to hit space because space doesn’t have CE.
@aloywong658
@aloywong658 4 ай бұрын
@@atm8733 he peform cleave on kashimo.
@atm8733
@atm8733 4 ай бұрын
@@aloywong658 No that was dismantle, go reread chapter 238. He does the chants for it and literally says dismantle. Everytime he does it he says dismantle. Every character that acknowledges the technique says it’s dismantle. Chapter 246 Kusakabe has an entire inner dialogue that explains the functions of Sukuna’s slashes and he also confirms it’s a dismantle slash. Then we got chapter 247 when he does it on Higuruma and he again says dismantle. And in chapter 250 while fighting in Yuta’s domain, Sukuna himself said, “I can’t fire dismantle, which has a broad strike and cuts the world while maintaining Hollwo Wicker Basket.”
@aloywong658
@aloywong658 4 ай бұрын
@@atm8733 not that one. The waffle one
@aloywong658
@aloywong658 4 ай бұрын
@@atm8733 I edit my comment Dismantle slashes take random shapes. Cleave slashes take the shaped of a waffle iron
@cake8064
@cake8064 4 ай бұрын
i like to think dismantle is just what sukuna uses to kill unworthy opponents or do attacks that he doesn't have intention to kill and cleave is to straight up bypass durability and just get the job done and this is probably so he doesnt end the fight too quickly and can actually get to cut people without causing fatal damage for a bit
@forho2
@forho2 4 ай бұрын
This man is the professor of JJK!
@tebrown2000
@tebrown2000 4 ай бұрын
Your explanation gives me more confidence on Maki against the domain.
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 3 ай бұрын
She dies horribly She isnt gonna withstand thousands of dismantles at 120%
@virnim
@virnim 4 ай бұрын
People think Cleave is just one slash and Dismantle is multiple, but that isnt the case. Dismantle is every slash sukuna uses long range, tu use Cleave he NEEDS to make contakt with somone with his had or what ever, that is how he scales it.
@SherudonD
@SherudonD 2 ай бұрын
But isn't dismantle always multiple slashes from what we've seen
@virnim
@virnim 2 ай бұрын
@@SherudonD no, he can spam them but when he slashed at jogo and the girls when they bowed to him, he did one slash. If he makes fingerguns, points and swipes to make one or more slashes, it is Dismantle.
@eldeuls1237
@eldeuls1237 2 ай бұрын
Does it also mean he can still use dismantle while touching the opponent Anime basically has a scene where sukuna touched mahoraga’s stomach and send multiple slashes to it Unless that’s a mistake made by the animators for making anime original scene, like how they made a plot hole of todo switching without clapping while both hands were holding mahito’s swords
@virnim
@virnim 2 ай бұрын
@@eldeuls1237 Cleave isnt one slash. It can be multiple like dismantle, only difrense is they are stronger and you need to touch them.
@eldeuls1237
@eldeuls1237 2 ай бұрын
@@virnim what I meant is in that particular scene did sukuna just used dismantle point blank? The entire point on why sukuna used domain on mahoraga was because he thought cleave would do the job since it’s a new attack, so he must’ve only used dismantle before that. Edit: you know what yeah he probably just used dismantle point blank, in the manga he also did the same he used dismantle while touching mahoraga’s head
@Kokolitofora
@Kokolitofora 4 ай бұрын
That panel when he spliced Mahoraga's head on Yuji's body to possess it was so sad 😞 Pray for my boy Mahoraga 🙏
@xyannail4678
@xyannail4678 4 ай бұрын
Megumi*
@-S4T
@-S4T 2 ай бұрын
Spliced??? Also bro got me confused i ain't never seen mahoraga get decapitated on yuji's body
@0o0510
@0o0510 4 ай бұрын
Maybe that’s why it’s named that way; dismantle is weaker so it doesn’t cut through, hence being a dismantle instead of cut/slice/etc; a cleave on the other hand is basically just slicing it in half, hence the powerful move
@izaak8056
@izaak8056 4 ай бұрын
I might be wrong but I also think that whenever it's one huge cut, it's a dismantle. But whenever he cubes something up, it's a cleave.
@Lialvas
@Lialvas 3 ай бұрын
i agree with your explanation, although i believe that cleave's condition is not "physically touching" but infact being at a very close range. the range is so close that its practically touching the opponent at that point, making it seem like sukuna is touching the opponent. how far? maybe just enough that sukuna can reach the opponent if he tries to extend his arm. reasoning being the ryu panel and that one scene from mahoraga fight (the scene where sukuna puts his arm close to mahoraga and a barrage of slashes hit mahoraga, i suspect that might be cleave at play.)
@onesmileybaldy8303
@onesmileybaldy8303 4 ай бұрын
I know the difference between them,the problem is that I keep getting them mixed up lol
@hejsjsjs-iq9xx
@hejsjsjs-iq9xx 27 күн бұрын
Question do you think that something made without cursed energy but is made with positive cursed energy would be targeted by shrine? Since it's technically not a object nor is cursed energy would that object survive shrine with no harm done?
@KempergamesRoundtree
@KempergamesRoundtree 3 ай бұрын
What I know is that cleave just chops things but when it comes to dismantle you turn them into dust and cut them into smaller pieces
@niegellhenry1367
@niegellhenry1367 4 ай бұрын
what about "Fuga" the fire technique?
@mudalad1215
@mudalad1215 3 ай бұрын
i think of dismantle as a cut that surface level, and cleave be a butcher's knife where they need to adjust how hard they need to chop in order to break through things like bone when they're done chopping the skin
@Screw064
@Screw064 4 ай бұрын
I always understood this but after the world slash I (thought) I misunderstood it assumed sukuna just learned to use the air/space around him as a canvas for him to use cleave so I kinda guessed now he can cleave anything
@Malthizar
@Malthizar 4 ай бұрын
This was a really REALLY good breakdown of the difference that I didn't know I needed. It makes his "newest" technique so dangerous since it actually is a Cleave rather than a Dismantle. One thing I would say is that, while Cleave seems to be an automatic OHKO, Dismantle can be amped to do more damage. There's just a max cap on it.
@justamuart
@justamuart 4 ай бұрын
His newest technique is a powered up dismantle, bro you have to actually read. Literally he chants 'DISMANTLE' everytime he activates it.
@SassyPest
@SassyPest 4 ай бұрын
Cleave was shown to have a limit though, Gojo survived through Cleave in multiple instances
@FallenFromGlory
@FallenFromGlory 3 ай бұрын
due to healing@@SassyPest
@jamiekslog
@jamiekslog 2 ай бұрын
I guess this explains why he touched Mahoraga that one time. I just thought it was a way to get multiple slashes done at once
@ryuusanjou
@ryuusanjou 4 ай бұрын
nice explanation! day 3 of asking about Maki (with the soul splitting katana) vs Hakari (In Jackpot) the main argument (Which im leaning to) is the Katana can ignore Hakari's Immortality cuz it targets the soul of the opponent (i know it is only explained in the story that it ignores durability but im wondering if it can ignore rct) i wanna know your opinion on this, thanks!
@float743
@float743 4 ай бұрын
If Nanami can subconsciously protect his soul from Mahito's attack, you could use this as an argument that Hakari's Jackpot subconsciously protects/heals the soul to his maximum limit. Although this is still considered headcanon. I personally don't believe Maki can kill JP Hakari, but that doesn't mean she loses. All she has to do is wait for the JP to end and immediately slice his arm or head off
@ryuusanjou
@ryuusanjou 4 ай бұрын
@@float743 interesting view!
@Endmaten1
@Endmaten1 4 ай бұрын
Considering the fact Hakari cannot get JP means he will be in base, and for the record, his base is pure trash. Maki will win fairly easily. It's really a matter of matchups.
@ryuusanjou
@ryuusanjou 4 ай бұрын
@@Endmaten1 im matching her with JP Hakari though
@Endmaten1
@Endmaten1 4 ай бұрын
@@ryuusanjou Not really a realistic matchup. Even if it's JP Hakari, he'll not injure her that badly to make her lose during those 4 minutes, and even if he's still in JP, Maki's threat of an one shot still exists. After those 4 minutes he'll get bullied in case he survives.
@towinandsave1520
@towinandsave1520 4 ай бұрын
In the newer chapter sukuna confirmed that cleave target must be touched by him
@theonewayroad3867
@theonewayroad3867 4 ай бұрын
What are you talking about we knew this all the way back when he body jacked Megumi he had to touch the ground to use Cleave and again in chapter 246....
@jjjoseph4332
@jjjoseph4332 4 ай бұрын
False
@towinandsave1520
@towinandsave1520 4 ай бұрын
@@jjjoseph4332 the fuk?
@Entrivity101
@Entrivity101 2 ай бұрын
i originally thought cleave was just “touch:bunch of slashes” and dismantle is “slash without touching anything”
@theartistkmg
@theartistkmg 4 ай бұрын
Who else is intrigued about the rest of sukunas techniques within dismantle and cleave ie spiderweb
@lockerbuddy2039
@lockerbuddy2039 3 ай бұрын
The comments made this significantly harder to understand but my understanding is basically, Dismantle is basically a ranged attack, Cleave is a physical contact attack. Except for in Domain Expasions, because sure, why not.
@skyracerz5074
@skyracerz5074 4 ай бұрын
Please cover why Rika a cursed spirit is different than a shikigami
@DefinetlynotItanji
@DefinetlynotItanji 2 ай бұрын
TLDR cleave is for cursed energy and dismantle is for inanimate stuff (both can be “adjusted”)
@Regular_Gambler
@Regular_Gambler 2 ай бұрын
so basically if i think i’m getting this Dismantle: slashy slashy Cleave: slashy slashy but finer
@memehivefive9852
@memehivefive9852 2 ай бұрын
Dismantle is more like throwing a knife while cleave is just slashing or stabbing them
@TheOneWhoKnocks18
@TheOneWhoKnocks18 2 ай бұрын
Tldr: Dismantle: Ranged Slash Cleave: Cuts what Sukuna touches,powe can be adjusted
@noahi.1132
@noahi.1132 3 ай бұрын
could he make cleave a ranged weapon if he wanted to very similar to how he upgraded dismantle.
@zaydaanalam2164
@zaydaanalam2164 4 ай бұрын
SPOLIERS FOR ANIME, DO NOT READ: You think Sukuna just used dismantle in his Domain clashes vs Gojo? Maybe so he didn't kill him earlier and had more of a chance to adapt to Limitless? Otherwise I don't see why he couldn't use a cleave in his domain to kill Gojo, seemed he was too durable for dismantle. Also, great vid, thought I understood cleave and dismantle pretty well.
@ryomensukuna2748
@ryomensukuna2748 4 ай бұрын
Quick question in regards to ep17 of S2,when Sukuna is on the traffic light does he fire mutiple dismantles at the building or does he fire one dismantle which then activates cleave upon impact with the building Like in the subway when he dices up Nanako,cause the cuts look similer how cleave would wounld an opponent,or was Nanako just so weak that Sukuna didn't even need to lift a finger for dismantle to do so much damage?
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 3 ай бұрын
Dismantle Cleave requires sukuna to physically touch you Sukuna can shoot multiple Dismantle into whatever shape ge wants
@robthekid1
@robthekid1 4 ай бұрын
Wait, if Cleave needs to adjust to the CE of the target to become really potent and Maki having no CE would Cleave even be affective against her? Dismantle could affect her, but if she's using pre-cog she might be able to evade Dismantle outside of the Shrine's Sure Hit. Hm just a thought.
@Kiyoexists
@Kiyoexists 3 ай бұрын
3:56 I didn’t know Sukuna was like that bro….
@uchihaitadori09
@uchihaitadori09 2 ай бұрын
Let's go, today YUJI used cleave dismantle
@notealistquixx1
@notealistquixx1 4 ай бұрын
ok quick summary dismantle - manual cutting (finger guns) cleave - autoaiming with cursed energy (open hand) like a homing beacon
@Pras0106
@Pras0106 4 ай бұрын
Can sukuna combined his malevorent Shrine with world cutting slash?
@drsh1711
@drsh1711 4 ай бұрын
The dismantle targeting inanimate objects is weird. It is basically said that the barrier recognizes any target by its CE so objects without CE aren't recognizable, Sukuna's barrier shouldn't be an exception to that. So I think dismantle isn't a surehit attack but a rapid flurry of attacks that is theoretically evadable but there are so many attacks that it is basically a surehit effect
@SassyPest
@SassyPest 4 ай бұрын
On top of that, the slashes are invisible and apparently travel INSANELY fast, so it fits the criteria even more
@seeker38
@seeker38 4 ай бұрын
Here's how I think it works. Sukuna is incredibly knowledgeable about even the most esoteric aspects of the setting's power system. He can perceive the soul to some degree (though not modify it), and we know it's also possible to perceive the "soul" (whatever that means) of inanimate objects. So, I assume he uses that skill via his domain. Also worth noting is that MS is barrierless and operates under somewhat different logic to most domains as a result, though the full differences aren't absolutely defined.
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 3 ай бұрын
The barrier doesn't recognize non ce to trap them But sukuna doesn't create a separate space to trap enemies He creates his domain in real space And dismantle doesn't "target non ce" Sukuna chose that so mahoraga doesn't get hit by it and instead cleave to hit him with a new attack to test his theory about his adaptation
@kingmike1831
@kingmike1831 4 ай бұрын
Can mahoraga adapt to black flash
@Danarchy99
@Danarchy99 3 ай бұрын
Him: “like a jujusu sorrcer for example” Me: go-gojo?
@bogats2397
@bogats2397 4 ай бұрын
The way I understood it Cleave is one big slash and Dismantle waffle slash BUT I now know that I was wrong
@zynczinc1443
@zynczinc1443 4 ай бұрын
Nope. Sukuna using cleave : spiderweb (waffle slash) when he fight against maki and yuji. Cleave needs to be touched (melee). Dismantle can shoot whenever and wherever he wants (projectile). Thats the difference.
@mylesthomas6631
@mylesthomas6631 2 ай бұрын
Man. Yuji bouta be BUSTED
@ItsKoko.
@ItsKoko. 4 ай бұрын
wow
@affebanane3039
@affebanane3039 4 ай бұрын
I wonder if his CT is capped in power. Because otherwhise he should be able to oneshot everyone. Since you can not see his attack you need to defend your whole body with ce but sukuna only needs to target one spot to win and put his ce in that spot. So i guess your theory makes sense
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 3 ай бұрын
Probably capped at sukuna's maximum output Like if sukuna cannot output enough ce to cut something it won't do that
@darthcaliginous2066
@darthcaliginous2066 2 ай бұрын
The reason Maki survived cleave is because she has no cursed energy to adjust to dealing little damage to her
@c00perred25
@c00perred25 4 ай бұрын
Can you explain why and how Kenjaku took over the Kamo clan. I know he was the leader a long time ago but since now hes in Getos body why would they allow him to take over.
@football360_slik
@football360_slik 4 ай бұрын
He took over the Kama clan many years ago with a different body. He is not controlling the Kamo clan anymore. They consider him (the body he is as occupying at the time- who was a member of the kamo clan) as the worst disgrace to ever happen to the clan. He is no longer in charge of the clan. That was many many years ago.
@c00perred25
@c00perred25 4 ай бұрын
@@football360_slik idk if your anime only but in the manga he takes it over again
@prototypemaster1
@prototypemaster1 3 ай бұрын
Imagine cutting a bone or a piece of meat. Dismantle is a normal slice(you have to move the knife back and forth to cut through). Cleave is when you swing the knife(or cleaver) down on the meat or bone with more strength to cut through it in one go. Basically, Dismantle is the normal attack while Cleave is supposed to be the one-hit kill on something tougher.
@Walter-uj8lh
@Walter-uj8lh Ай бұрын
But can you use cleave on an object?
@jordantaylor4390
@jordantaylor4390 11 күн бұрын
I thought cleave could ONLY hit things with cursed energy, Dismantle can hit both. Cleave requires physical contact, and then adjust it to meet their cursed energy
@NeoZero369
@NeoZero369 Ай бұрын
But does dismantle get stronger naturally as each finger is eaten?
@Kingleader507
@Kingleader507 4 ай бұрын
Hey, I have a question: What if someone applied positive cursed energy within a micro second to their punches? Will they create a white flash
@keithdavy7346
@keithdavy7346 4 ай бұрын
They'd have to use RTC and learn how to attack with positive cursed energy. Then be lucky and good enough for a black flash to occur if it were even possible with positive cursed energy. The natures of cursed energy and positive cursed energy are very different and do not operate the same at all. Positive cursed energy just seems more stable but less flexible and slower to control. Edit: Overall it's too slow to even be possible considering use of RCT, skill issue with positive cursed energy and the slow nature of positive cursed energy.
@Kingleader507
@Kingleader507 4 ай бұрын
@@keithdavy7346 how about some like satoru gojo
@keithdavy7346
@keithdavy7346 4 ай бұрын
@@Kingleader507 so far we have seen no character attack with raw positive cursed energy. If sorcerers could do this dealing with cursed spirits would be effortless. We see Hakari overflow with so much cursed energy it converts to positive but even so he couldn't attack with it and can only buff/heal himself. There's a possibility he could attack with it but it wouldn't be useful against anything that's not a cursed spirit. It's likely that the most that could be done is using RCT for one's innate technique to get its opposite effect. To use black flash with an innate technique would be even more difficult let lone RCT then innate technique. Considering all this it makes Mahoraga's blade that much more unique. As it is possibly the only instance we've seen of positive cursed energy being used offensively, but even then it's in the form of a blade and not shapeless like normal cursed energy. Positive cursed energy seems not only hard to control but it's expenditure is double that of cursed energy. It would make no sense for even Gojo to perform RCT and control positive cursed energy to attack (if possible) all in a microsecond. It's not even offensive in nature with it only being harmful to beings of pure cursed energy.
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 3 ай бұрын
Positive energy doesn't hurt humans and curses get one tapped by it anyway
@Ringoismybirdo
@Ringoismybirdo 4 ай бұрын
Wish he combined them just cause they are very similar
@ThePureedge
@ThePureedge 4 ай бұрын
question: Since Sukuna's CE Output is weakening due to Yuji's punches, were the world-cutting slashes (Dismantle) that he throwed on to Yuta, Yuji and Rika lethal enough?
@float743
@float743 4 ай бұрын
Yuta looks fatally injured but we won't that know for sure until 252 leaks drop
@Endmaten1
@Endmaten1 4 ай бұрын
The point with the world slash is to cut everything, so yes. Yuji and Rika seemed to have been hit by dismantles, and Rika seems to be also disappearing due to Yuta's damage.
@lasuli8386
@lasuli8386 4 ай бұрын
Do you think that Sukuna in Megumi's body would be able to use Chimera shadow garden? Also if Yuta copies ten shadows could he summon Mahoraga?
@anzai5552
@anzai5552 4 ай бұрын
No because innate domain is your truly pinnacle of jujutsu and I think there's something to do with the connection to the real soul And for yuta i kinda doubt it because mahoraga is special case just like you need six eyes for limitless #maybe
@Endmaten1
@Endmaten1 4 ай бұрын
If Yuta copies 10S then yes, he would be able to summon Mahoraga. There's no need to make it complicated. It requires nothing special but everything that Yuta already has and beyond that than Megumi.
@Flowermedal
@Flowermedal 4 ай бұрын
Uhh maybe? We've seen Kenjaku apply the reverse of Kaori's technique into his Domain so it'd probably work that way. I could be wrong though
@SassyPest
@SassyPest 4 ай бұрын
Domains are inherent to the user's identity, every domain will be distinct from each other regardless if they operate under the same CT And yeah, sure, but he would need to tame Mahoraga, no? Pretty sure he can only copy the base technique itself, not the user's progress
@ManganimistYT
@ManganimistYT 4 ай бұрын
Lasuli, thank you so much for all of the support recently! I answer your question in my latest video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqTbiot8ncZ0esU
@GenesisTubo
@GenesisTubo 21 күн бұрын
Wait,so dismantle has a fixed power,so does that mean he can't lower the power?
@boroarks
@boroarks 3 ай бұрын
wait, in the newer chapters when yuta copied sukuna's technique and used cleave on sukuna, he didn't touch sukuna but sukuna DID grab the sword he was trying to attack with. Could this imply that if sukuna touches something and THAT thing touches his target then cleave works too?
@lovesahnee
@lovesahnee 3 ай бұрын
it could, but each sword represented a CT meaning it’s possible the CT was just in the sword, kind of like how some cursed tools have CTs.
@boroarks
@boroarks 3 ай бұрын
@@lovesahnee oh i see, so normally yuta would have to touch the target
@sparkierss3189
@sparkierss3189 4 ай бұрын
It could be possible that he’s attacking the objects behind people for dismantle
@nqubekomthiyane6558
@nqubekomthiyane6558 4 ай бұрын
All truth.
@MiniKnight318
@MiniKnight318 4 ай бұрын
Dismantle=Long range slash Cleave=Needs physical contact to activate but in exchange it adjust to the opponents durability, basically more powerful
@tondoghoul1353
@tondoghoul1353 4 ай бұрын
Is sukuna can split atom, and create a atomic bonb?
@HNDRXX98
@HNDRXX98 4 ай бұрын
Do you think Maki/Toji would be able to blitz Sukuna’s shrine or escape since when he uses his DE and “cleave” is for anything with CE and “dismantle” for inanimate objects (ie. no CE) and they have no CE they would be seen as “inanimate”
@oz9220
@oz9220 4 ай бұрын
They wouldnt
@HNDRXX98
@HNDRXX98 4 ай бұрын
But what makes you think they couldn’t escape? Or at the very least not be sliced to pieces and dust?
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 3 ай бұрын
​@HNDRXX98 what makes u think they wouldn't be minced meat? Maki had a piece of her face ripped off by sukuna's hand Imagine thousands of 120% slashes against someone that can't do anything to defend, no rct no sd no fbe or da
@lordmike9331
@lordmike9331 4 ай бұрын
Cleave is grabbing the target and cutting them dismantle is just throwing out a slash
@ednaposecion199
@ednaposecion199 4 ай бұрын
dismantle is ranged attack but cleave is a close range
@adamphinx
@adamphinx 4 ай бұрын
So Toje will face dismantle rather than cleaves in skuna domain. Which give hime a better surviving chance
@goldensus7778
@goldensus7778 4 ай бұрын
Wow ! It's just that simple ?! I thought that there is much more elaborate explanation about it just like how Reddit threat made about it
@EXTENDOSFUNERAL
@EXTENDOSFUNERAL 3 ай бұрын
If you just pay attention and take in the information and digest it this would be so simple .
@dankmemes7729
@dankmemes7729 4 ай бұрын
is the dimensional slash a cleave or a dismantle? or is it a different thing altogether ?
@SassyPest
@SassyPest 4 ай бұрын
It's a variant from Dismantle
@dankmemes7729
@dankmemes7729 4 ай бұрын
@@SassyPest okay so dismantle can also be modified
@YannisKarageorgiou
@YannisKarageorgiou 4 ай бұрын
@@dankmemes7729 Not really. Normally it travels as an invisible (or black if you can see Sukuna's curse enery) line that cuts everything it's path until it runs out of power. Instead making travel Sukuna just makes it spawn on the target. Think Amateratsu vs Phoenix Flower Jutsu
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 3 ай бұрын
​@dankmemes7729 world slash is dismantle but aimed at space
@echonox31
@echonox31 4 ай бұрын
3:54 He's doing WHAT?
@anonymousperson2816
@anonymousperson2816 4 ай бұрын
can someone explain how sukuna beat mahoraga? I got confused with the whole mahimoraga only adapted to dismantle/cleave but vulnerable to the other one
@sobrii9492
@sobrii9492 4 ай бұрын
The way I understood it is that Maho adapted to Dismantle first, and was about to adapt to Cleave as well, but was interrupted by the fire arrow, which killed him instantly since he can't adapt to a new attack until he is finished adapting to the first. Maho was still healing from the initial flurry of slashes during the domain. If he had been able to finish healing, he probably would have been immune to all slashing attacks.
@anonymousperson2816
@anonymousperson2816 4 ай бұрын
@@sobrii9492 thanks
@tohyuluan2995
@tohyuluan2995 4 ай бұрын
Cleave is close combat while dismantle is far range attack tbh sukuns CT had low mastery since it cutting not alot of people can make new attacks from it
@kianee313
@kianee313 4 ай бұрын
I dont have the money to donate but I have a really confusing question about Mahoraga, how was it able to adapt to infinity? Its not an attack, its not a domain, but it is a CE, but how was Mahoraga able to adapt to it?
@Endmaten1
@Endmaten1 4 ай бұрын
Because once Mahoraga gets hit by something is when his adaptation begins and there's two types. 1. Mahoraga adapts by being hit with a single technique and gradually adapting to the whole of the technique from that single attack, but this process takes a lot of time. 2. Mahoraga's getting constantly hit which helps his adaptation speed, and if he gets hit with an new attack then his adaptation will be even faster until he completely adapts. Sukuna was taking the burden of the adaptation and was hit a lot by Gojo's techniques.
@kianee313
@kianee313 4 ай бұрын
@@Endmaten1 oh so, Red and blue were the ones that Mahoraga adapted to so it could adapt to infinity (the barrier)?
@Endmaten1
@Endmaten1 4 ай бұрын
@@kianee313 Yes, but also from UV that Megumi got hit by. From just being able to touch Gojo, Mahoraga was able to show a second adaptation for Sukuna, which is to expand the technique's target as Mahoraga adapts further.
@Jaydenthemannn
@Jaydenthemannn 2 ай бұрын
World cutting slash is a dismantle
@edright965
@edright965 4 ай бұрын
Does maki have rct, if she got hit with cleave, is that it for her ?
@float743
@float743 4 ай бұрын
No, people with heavenly restrictions have a healing factor (weaker than RCT). Kamo had to stall Curse Naoya after Maki got hit by the mach 3 ram so she can slowly heal
@logstriketech6360
@logstriketech6360 4 ай бұрын
If shikigami are subservient to their summoners, why did Megumi basically get insta killed by his Mahoraga?
@SassyPest
@SassyPest 4 ай бұрын
Pretty sure they become subservient post-tamed
@melissablake7460
@melissablake7460 3 ай бұрын
Cleave=1 Dismantle=many as he wants😂
@justsomeguywithawhitebeard5639
@justsomeguywithawhitebeard5639 4 ай бұрын
But then I don't understand how Gojo survived all those adjusted cleave slashes in Sukuna's domain. They were only scratching him on a shallow level and they said it was because of Gojo's strong cursed energy defense but shouldn't cleave adjust and ignore those defenses, just like Mahoraga, especially in his domain? This should be the whole point of cleave.
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 3 ай бұрын
Any ability u use will have a max amount of ce usage That being your maximum ce output Even with cleave, sukuna's output wasn't enough to overpower both the ce reinforcement of gojo AND max output rct If it wasn't for both(or the anti domain techniques) even gojo would be minced meat We see his neck almost fully cut trough with the first slash that hits him So its not just gojo's durability
@chprudhviteja
@chprudhviteja 4 ай бұрын
Can inverted spear of heaven that cancels every CT counter the world cutting slash
@SassyPest
@SassyPest 4 ай бұрын
Pretty sure it didn't help against Gojo's Red in the anime
@Prodigal450
@Prodigal450 4 ай бұрын
I have a question. We saw yutta use cleave, was he touching Sukuna when he used it?
@float743
@float743 4 ай бұрын
The "cleave katana" was touching him
@broskibrobro1278
@broskibrobro1278 3 ай бұрын
I don’t get why he doesn’t use cleave against everyone barring gojo. As a cleave was all it took to kill ryu who described as more durable than the students.
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