What’s the difference between SgtMaj & MGySgt? Why are there TWO E9 ranks in the Marine Corps?

[@ChadHuey79]

Semper Fi Devil Dogs! 2012-2017, 0311 !! I miss the friends, camaraderie, foreign food, traveling, foreign countries, and the cool ranges and training. It was definitely a life changing experience that I’m l’m glad to be a apart of. I got out and used my GI bill so I took advantage of my resources. Whether you do 1 enlistment or many, I will never talk someone out of it. One of the best things that ever happened to me! Keep up the good videos sir! It’s fun to brush up on these again!

[@SFMF247]

@chadhuey79 MOTIVATOR! This comment is much appreciated, AND very relatable! ALL OF IT. Definitely one of the best things. Semper Fi My Friend. SFMF

[@ChadHuey79]

@@SFMF247 Thank you much! I appreciate that, and thank you for your service as well!

[@SFMF247]

@@ChadHuey79 it’s people like you that keep the Esprit de Corps alive. URAH!

[@Joebutcher66]

11 bravo (82nd airborne) army over here but thank you for your service

[@Thecodeist]

Rah

[@marsbanditnyc9043]

There’s no way you’re going to convince me that’s not a pineapple on the MGySgt insignia 😂

[@SFMF247]

@MARSBANDIT NYC I’ve heard from reliable sources- it’s 100% a “bursting bomb”. There’s even a pizza on KBay called the “Master Guns Bursting Bomb Pizza” which is basically a pepperoni, pineapple, jalapeño pizza 😉 SFMF

[@rainz_xpainz6522]

@@SFMF247 It looks like a pineapple tho Swiss Infantry men have the same symbol on their branche badge

[@SFMF247]

@rainz_xpainz It absolutely looks like a pineapple to me too, was even taught that in boot camp 😎but I’ve since been corrected. SFMF

[@adamrecon]

Who are the ones that wear just that pineapple on their collar?

[@SFMF247]

@adamrecon That’s the Gunner, the one that doesn’t technically exist… 🍍 Because technically it’s a bursting bomb on his left collar, and his rank insignia on his right. SFMF

[@mindytranayers9018]

My son recently got promoted to Staff Sergeant. I’m so proud of him to be part of USMC. Thank you for your service Sir

[@creightonhayes7733]

The fact that this dudes neck muscles wont allow him say the letter g anymore let's you know immediately that he's a real old school badass fuckin Marine.

[@SFMF247]

@Creighton Hayes rahhhh SFMF!

[@goose33]

Lmao

[@homevalueglass3809]

Thanks for the laugh

[@donlarocque5157]

Guy does chin ups with his chin.

[@stephenpeterson5147]

Dam. Cece long time. I open this up and see a Marine I went to cold weather training in Bridgeport CA. This is Pete from 9th ESB back in the day. Semper Fi brother.

[@stephenlyons8589]

My grandfather was a Master guns. He lived for the corps. I grew up listening to cadences before competing in sports or races . I was always so proud to be his grandson and to show him off , especially when he was in dress blues or greens. But the blues with his medals and sashes , I always thought he looked like a superhero. And he was in many ways.

[@SFMF247]

@6th feelings forces That’s an awesome share! Your grandfather was definitely a badass AND A SUPER HERO😎 Bet he was proud of you too! Much respect & appreciation to him and your whole family for the sacrifices made. Legend! SFMF

[@garyowen9044]

❤

[@unclecreepy8343]

"You grew up listening to cadence. " I'm feel so sincerely bad for you 😂

[@billybob6604]

my grandpa was too I wish he was around longer but smoking and drinking for so many years eventually caught up with him and he passed when I was just starting middle school

[@lhumas]

SgtMaj Cece, good to see you Devil Dog. I was in 2/5 G, 3rd plt, 3 sqd, 1st team 06-07. Iraq, Ramadi and Kharma. You just popped up on my feed, took me back for a minute. Glad to see your fighting the good fight. Semper Fi.

[@SFMF247]

Good to see YOU, Brother! Fallujah… good times!! Was that Srini & Perez? Thanks for the comment. Keep getting some! SFMF

[@rockyrocamontes8972]

They're both lifers and are to be honored for their sacrifice and service. Semper Fi and Ooh-rah!

[@SFMF247]

@Rocky Rocamontes urahhh Lifers & die-hards.. SFMF

[@drwombat]

So, they're enlisted for life? At that point why wouldn't just go for officer commission?

[@barrontrump3943]

@@drwombatyou start at 0-1, and senior enlisted at that level is chill

[@MrStaybrown]

In Oki brand new to the island long ago, I received a Red Cross message of a death in the family. My company SgtMajor was on vacation but still on the island and he showed up in warm ups to get my leave orders going, but sako couldn't get me a flight back from conus for 3 weeks because of Christmas and new years. I didn't have enough leave so I would have to owe. SgtMajor approved it and sent me down the hall to get orders to depart the next day. StaffSGT there denies it because I don't have the balance to cover. I rushed back to catch SgtMajor as he was locking his door. We walked down there, he says point out this StaffSGT, I do. He calls the StaffSGT over and says print this Marine his orders, StaffSGT says, He doesn't have the..SgtMajor points down at his signature and and says I Already Approved It, This Marine Will Wait Right Here, So Print Them StaffSGT. His demeanor changed, his voice went to a higher octave, Yes SgtMajor. StaffSGT proceeded to hand them off to a LCPL when SgtMajor said, StaffSGT You Print Them Now. I thanked SgtMajor and he went home, StaffSGT gave me my orders quick. When I reached Cpl I did my best to look out for my Junior Marines the same way SgtMajor did..pay it forward.

[@SFMF247]

Wow. Great story! Glad you shared that, and glad that he was able to help you. A lot of times, this stuff doesn’t get pushed up to where action needs to happen. Good for you! Semper Fi My Friend

[@charlesridgeway9602]

Nice 👏🏽 story! Glad to hear that the SgtMaj dod the right thing supporting his young Marine. Rules or technicalities can be worked around when necessary. Semper Fidelis 😎

[@ronthibault1853]

"Outstanding !" That SgtMajor. friggin rocked ! (you know as well as I do, not the usual). Glad you were able to get home man. "Semper" 🥷😎✌️🍻🕊️

[@karllambert2350]

Bates?

[@PWatts-ff2fd]

Great example of correct Marine Leadership. Thanks for sharing it. 🎉

[@TemmieContingenC]

Love the way you articulate info clearly and precisely. Not in the military but I do like watching these from time to time. Also kudos for checking in with the people who comment. Saw your reply to a dude shopping out to boot soon and it was really wholesome. Keep it up

[@SFMF247]

@jessie Thank you for that. Building up this community is important for so many reasons. The camaraderie between warriors doesn’t end. I want to make sure they know this is for them. Anyone & everyone that comes here and supports the SFMF is welcome & appreciated, so Semper Fi My Friend. You’re welcome here too 🇺🇸 SFMF

[@B0RN2RACE100]

Master guns= cool old guy that teaches you shit ⭐️ sarg= run away

[@SFMF247]

Hmmm… would like to hear the full story one day Alejandro!

[@ghostwrench2292]

@BORN2RACE100 - I was going to comment something like that. Seems like we only saw the SM in regimental formations or for disciplinary reasons. Masterguns always doing their own thing and knowing shit. 😂

[@martycarmichael3885]

Nailed it

[@riceflatpicking4954]

True story

[@B0RN2RACE100]

@@AlbertRossi92 we did, a lot, sarcastically. And I spent a few years with the blue diamond in the infantry as a corpsman.

[@drewbienewbie03xx81]

You remind me of my SGT MAJ Reeves. I was his driver and then gunner on our Ramadi tour with 2/8. Thank you for bring back fond memories, loved that man, great leader.

[@albertramos3126]

Sgt. Major…… How’s everything Big guy…. My name is Al Ramos, we went to NCO School in Hawaii. We were Corporals. Had a blast. I still have all my NCO books ( we wrote some hilarious shit on each other’s manuals). I followed you for a while. I’m glad to find you again. Semper Fi Amigo & God Bless Brother 🍺👊🏽

[@SFMF247]

Hey Killer! Great to hear from you! I saw your other comment first, sorry about that. These comments get crazy sometimes! Those were some great times! Glad you still have the books & memories. Semper Fi My Friend!

[@billknoop]

Sergeant E-5 is the backbone of the Corps. Semper fi, (E-5, 1965-71)

[@SFMF247]

@billknoop ABSOLUTELY! Semper Fi MARINE! Thank you for leading the way. URAHHH! SFMF

[@daveb.4268]

Wow, you were an E-5 when it was really, really dangerous to be one! Thank you for all you did and as always, Welcome Home and Semper Fi.

[@billknoop]

@@daveb.4268 Thank you. There are OLD Marines, and there are BOLD Marines, but there are no OLD BOLD Marines!

[@jacobcoryell8258]

Staff Sergeant is the keeper of tradition

[@kellywilson8440]

Totally agree i was E-5 in the airwing f-18 squadron in the US Navy , The petty officer second class made it happen !

[@aceykerr8752]

SgtMaj is an administrator, Master Guns is the subject-matter expert of his given field.

[@SFMF247]

URAH! The ultimate team!

[@DvlHownd]

SgtMaj MOS 9999: "No technical skills required" ;-) MGySgt (ret) 1975 - 2006

[@johnstreet1812]

But also is looked upon as a leader, not just a technical wonk.

[@Rayydude]

Bahaha yeah I remember MGySgt Buss would always steal SgtMaj Cece’s/SgtMaj Wiseman parking spot until they gave him one 😂 they gave each other so much shit and Im just a wee LCpl just 👁️👄👁️ aye SgtMaj aye MGySgt. He was always on that SgtMaj is Admin MGySgt is the route to go 0399 SFMF 😂

[@butterflyangel2669]

Thank you for your service sir! 🇺🇲🇺🇲

[@SFMF247]

@butterfly angel Semper Fi My Friend 🦅🌎⚓️

[@matthewaskren]

Love to see this one get to 1 millions views

[@SFMF247]

Thank you brother, almost🤞🏼! Urah

[@SneeUnit]

Master Guns is always the coolest dude.

[@1996toyotacamry]

He’s a DI instructor at a military school I used to attend! Very very amazing person with incredible stories!

[@Clevelandsteamer324]

One is administrative, one is a technical expert.

[@darthneph4900]

Beast of a man. We need more like him. Our new generations are watered down.

[@usmc249]

So this is how small the Corps is. Bangor Marines recognize that Master Guns in the photo from security forces early 2000s. “Killers”

[@SFMF247]

@USMC249 Absolutely! small Corps indeed. URAH Semper Fi MARINE

[@DavidKasan]

Sir, Thank you first for your Service. Thank you here for educating us.

[@SFMF247]

My pleasure David, thank YOU… appreciate you saying that! Semper Fi My Friend, Urah

[@tommyhunter1817]

“What does three up and three down mean to you Airman?” “End of an inning.” LOLOLOL

[@SFMF247]

Good one Tommy!

[@tommyhunter1817]

@@SFMF247 Good Morning, Vietnam.

[@ShmikeLLL]

I always appreciate knowledge from a senior Devil Dog. Semper Fidelis.

[@SFMF247]

Thank you Nick, appreciate you Leatherneck! Semper Fi My Friend

[@peterkapinos277]

I wondered this. Makes sense. Navy E-9 can be a rated Master Chief or a Command Master Chief.

[@SFMF247]

Good to know!

[@SFMF247]

The USMC doesn’t have a “Command” SgtMaj… just SgtMaj. The other E9 would be the Master Gunnery Sergeant.

[@batchelerjr]

Semper fi back at you. Thanks for watching out for us.

[@SFMF247]

Appreciate you! Always Semper Fi My Friend🇺🇸

[@adamb.1786]

I've been a Marine for 20 years. Now I know. Only 4 active.

[@SFMF247]

@Adam B. Urahhh Never too old to learn. Semper Fi Devil Dog! SFMF

[@billfitz5493]

My dad was a Master Gunnery Sgt retired in 1965 after 24 years with the Corps. I had no idea what the difference was. Thank You for the explanation!

[@SFMF247]

Awesome, glad to help… and Semper Fi to your pop and your whole family! Urah, SFMF

[@smokeyhat]

Question: Whats the difference between a MGySgt and a SgtMaj? Answer: MGySgt can do both his job AND the SgtMaj's job. I dig the video btw.

[@SFMF247]

Facts! Also depends on the MOS too. Semper Fi My Friend

[@charlesridgeway9602]

😂 yeah, right ✅️ Most can't but there are a small percentage that could.

[@johnstreet1812]

Agreed, I filled in for the SgtMaj on more than one occasion

[@kevinpage1042]

Ashamed to say I never served, but I do have a story about a retired Master Guns. He was a fishing guide on a small charter boat he retired to. Guy was a solid rock of muscle and had a voice like low gravel. Right away I'm afraid of this guy. But man, when we got on the water, it was time to learn, and he never had to raise his voice. I'd be drifting off, not paying attention, and I'd feel just a little knock in my mid back, fish was on the line. Learned a lot. Guy was a great instructor. Nothing but respect for him and for all of you.

[@presleymeehan5157]

Semper Fi Sgt. Maj. I'm shipping out to boot camp in June of 2023. What do you recommend doing for PT before I head out?

[@SFMF247]

Push ups, Sit ups, Pull ups and Run! Or now it’s planks, not sit ups. PLENTY of all of them. Wide grip, palms outboard pull-ups. Tons of push-ups, arms wide, shallow and shoulder width apart. 1 mile, 2 mile and 3 mile runs… Do PLENTY of all! Keep me posted -when’s your estimated graduation date? #notrainnogain #getsome Urah!

[@presleymeehan5157]

​@@SFMF247 I ship the 20th of June I estimate graduation to be around September.

[@africanmiltia5381]

Hold out heavy bookbags in front of you. Alot of shoulder workouts. And learning how to run on all 4s with a towel

[@yopyop3933]

Date as many " beatches" as you can before youre in.... 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@yopyop3933]

And dont forget to ask for the best BARRACKS BUNNIE in your unit...😎😎😎🤙🤙🤙

[@Shane-sf9pv]

I was 8152 security forces from 2011-2015, and I think I saw a master guns once for about 30 seconds. They were almost mythical in my company. I was in Yorktown VA at the naval base. Rah Sgt Major

[@Paragonoflaziness]

Definitely a marine I can hear it in his vocabulary

[@SFMF247]

Once a Marine, always a Marine! SFMF

[@salvadorayala3860]

Fr😂

[@Mautiks]

You’re definitely a bottom. I can see it in your profile pic.

[@stevecoronado8608]

I proudly served in this Gun Club for 12 years. Semper Fi!

[@etheu9sby292]

One is th kinda chill the other one yells at you for having fucked up boots 2 days before you EAS.

[@SFMF247]

It’s called balance! 😉 Semper Fi

[@stanwooddave9758]

Thank you one and all Leather Necks, for your service to this country.

[@SFMF247]

Urahhhhh! Semper Fi My Friend

[@D4RKMA7TER]

the master gunns I knew was the goofiest person on the planet and he didn't know it either.

[@SFMF247]

Hahaha… that’s funny! (And maybe he DID know?!) SFMF

[@mr.joseph7806]

We had a "Gunner" that gave us our induct when we got to the fleet. That man was hard core, doing everything we did, leading by example. He mustve been in his late 40s but had the heart and stamina of an 18 year old.

[@Front-Toward-Enemy]

This guy looks exactly like what most people think a marine looks like.

[@SFMF247]

Urahhh 😎 Thanks! I’m okay with that!! Semper Fi My Friend

[@usagi7849]

You might want to add that process starts at Master Sgt and first Sgt first Sgt goes to Sgt Maj and master Sgt goes to Master gunnery sgt! SEMPRE FI. Sgt ,"E" U S. M. C. And your m. o. s. plays a part!

[@kimikimikokopuffs4079]

URAH SGTMAJ! 💪🏽

[@SFMF247]

URAHHH SFMF

[@cedricnora4481]

Keep on keepin on, sir. Not the officer sir, just the respect sir 😂

[@ernestbrummitt1206]

I always said this is a concept I wish the Army had adopted ....

[@SFMF247]

@ernest brummitt -it definitely has a lot of advantages! Semper Fi My Friend! HOOAH SFMF

[@justindavis4962]

Similar to how the specialist rank went all the way to spec7.

[@SFMF247]

@Justin Davis -interesting! I never knew that. I thought it only went to specialist E4. Thx for the knowledge Brother. SFMF

[@ernestbrummitt1206]

@@justindavis4962 thats a long gone system. E4's either become SPC or CPL's. Either way both can become SGT eventually....it's weird 🤣

[@ernestbrummitt1206]

@@SFMF247 yeah man I definitely see the advantage and if it was on the Army side of house I'd still be in 🤣

[@kiltedtennessean5380]

That bursting bomb looks more like a pineapple........ just sayin

[@SFMF247]

I hear ya…

[@waltsposts8583]

Do me a favor and never use that picture of me from the ghosts crew book where i look like a dead body😂. Glad to see you on here sgtmaj. Sent me down memory lane watching this.

[@SFMF247]

Hahaha! Eh, Stanley Steemer! Good to see you here to brother, thanks for watching. Your pic is next, you look fine 😵! Hope all is well with you, Urahhh. SFMF

[@KennyInSubic]

Navy should have done this.

[@robomonkey1018]

Right I think all ranks should have a "specialist" version. I dont get the way badass technicians get forceed out because they aren't good leaders. Like why do your have to be both?

[@Dyne191]

Uh... there's a difference between a master chief and a CMC...

[@SFMF247]

Yes sir… Master Chief Petty Officer and Command Master Chief. Both are E9 but have different responsibilities. Urahhh

[@KennyInSubic]

@@robomonkey1018 👍👍👍

[@OversizedDetour1341]

I've seen some SgtMaj's with city miles on them. Stressed about the shit we did as LCpl.'s & Cpl.'s on the regular. Never seen a Master Gunns who didn't look like he just got off vacation. Seemed kinda nice.

[@AVSTYLESAVS]

So it’s not a pineapple 🍍

[@SFMF247]

@Whatisaman According to my sources, it’s def a bursting bomb 💣 But according to my own eyes, it’s hard to argue it’s not a pineapple 🍍 SFMF

[@arctodussimus6198]

When I became a sergeant, I was made Company Scrounger. It was the easiest job ever because we had a Sergeant Major in our unit. If I needed anything, and thought I would get any flack, I just said “the Sergeant Major wants…..”. If they called called him, he would ask who was asking, and then chew them out for not giving it to me right away. SgtMaj Goram always backed me up even though he rarely knew why I was asking for something.

[@mtdusmc9437]

Sergeants Major don't serve at the company level in the Marine Corps, so not sure where you were.

[@frankherbert6476]

SgtMaj: makes sure everyone is class 2 dental, grass has no footprints, and hands stay outa pockets. Master Guns: Burning bush of warfighting. Gets shit done

[@SFMF247]

Solid observation. SFMF

[@ironriq]

SGTMAJ Battle Field circulation .. ass in the grass w/ the Marines ..

[@willesco898]

Thanks for clearing up the bursting bomb symbol...Thought it was a Pineapple symbolizing master swinger😂

[@LegendaryVideoVlogs]

looked like a pineapple honestly

[@joethehobobro1929]

I was thinking same thing

[@neonickhaos4811]

So does a grenade

[@SFMF247]

The more you know… ;)

[@mikeyoungblood1706]

Much Respect Gunny

[@SFMF247]

Semper Fi My Friend

[@christophercanfield3742]

Semper Fi, Devil Dog...

[@SFMF247]

@Christopher Canfield URAH Semper Fi My Friend SFMF

[@garyreid2178]

When I was in high school, I was in the N.J.R.O.T.C.(Navy Junior Reserve Officer Training Corps), our instructors were a Captain (who happened to be a Chaplain) and a Marine Corps Master Gunnery Sergeant. These two men taught the course in two ways. The Captain gave lectures and discussed the chapters in our Naval Science textbook. The Master Gunnery Sergeant supervised drill practice and rifle squad. The Master Gunnery Sergeant told us many stories about his experiences in Korea and in Vietnam. The Captain also told some stories. Both were retired from active service but, the Master Gunnery Sergeant was later promoted to Captain before he passed away.

[@SFMF247]

Great story, Gary… thanks for sharing brother. Urah, SFMF

[@garyreid2178]

@@SFMF247 Thanks. I couldn’t join the military because I had scoliosis. If I didn’t have it, I’d be in the Air Force (I tried to join after I graduated. But I couldn’t. Thank you for your service.

[@emmanueljohnson7334]

Me and the mastery Gunnery Sargent had approved or equipment and the field and it did not require gas for the tank. That’s all I can say and it was not only able to haul it sound way, but it can tow in Indiana truck bogged down with equipment.

[@SFMF247]

🤯

[@lordvader8237]

Class of 2023 here, it was a privilege taking your LE-1 class SgtMaj Cece!! Oorah

[@SFMF247]

Urahhh Appreciate that. What’s next?

[@Silver-Foxxo]

I've always been wondering about that ever since I first had to learn all of the branches' ranks and rates back in highschool jrotc, nowadays I'm about to enlist in the Army, heading to MEPS soon and then to boot after that, quite excited!

[@BoBoy711]

In our new world of a Joint Force, it would be nice for the Army to add a 4th rocker on their SGM, CSM & SMA to be comparable to the USMC. Just like Chief Warrant Officer 5, the sister services are all the same except the color of the middle stripe, Black for Army, Red for USMC and Blue for Navy. Great video though.Thanks.

[@britishrocklovingyank3491]

Reminds me of all the fun I had as a Blue Suiter refusing to use full rank when talking to a Marine, "Yeah, I have a lot of work to do. Do you want a heater to your tent or not?

[@w.o.v.1033]

Hard stripes rule /meaning sergeant major, with the star is Senior to the specialist E9

[@BestofDeweey]

You can tell he was all about that master guns slot

[@SFMF247]

Or something like that .. SFMF

[@williamkissane4261]

Had to send this to my Staff Sergeant... hes loves to golf and that golf shirt is the bomb

[@SFMF247]

Awesome! My kids just got me another (similar) one for Father’s Day 😎 SFMF

[@bridgecommand]

Thank you for your service! The Armed Forces make our country safe and give our young people purpose and direction

[@joseherrera965]

The million dollar question has been answered!!

[@SFMF247]

🫵🏼😉 SFMF

[@retired5249]

There are also two E9 ranks in the US Army also. Sergeant Major and Command Sergeant Major, both grade E9

[@SFMF247]

Urah, a great system all around! SFMF

[@Axelsanx]

Wingers love Master Guns, because they are wingers, on an Air Station. SgtMaj's mostly don't like wingers and we shared that feeling, because most were grunts.

[@SFMF247]

Wait- So you’re telling me, the Marines at MCAS did NOT like their SgtMaj?! OHHH SAY IT ISNT SO!💔 Semper Fi My Friend. Get some

[@a.p.guaschino]

So it's not a pineapple. Got it.

[@SFMF247]

😎

[@Rayydude]

The photo at the end was MGysgt Buss passing the colors from Col Holt to Col Palma. Felt like it was all just yeaterday

[@JasonJensen-z4y]

Cece how the hell are you the last seen you, your unit was reliving my unit. Engineers up Semper Fi SgtMaj.

[@SFMF247]

Semper Fi My Brother! Very cool! can you shoot me a message on IG, or TWTR, or LinkedIn? Would be great to reconnect! Semper Fi My Friend

[@joshtruman377]

I have that same watch! Bought it at Leonard Wood a few years back. Rah.

[@SFMF247]

Urah… still ticking! SFMF

[@No_Hate_2024]

The difference is that a Master Gunnery Sergeant does his job, KNOWING he knows more than anyone else in his field and the Sergeant Major does his job TELLING you he knows more than anyone else in his field.

[@legionnaireguerra7511]

I had not noticed that they had 4 rockers for their E-9. Thank you

[@SFMF247]

Urah! Marines are extreme… 👊🏼! Semper Fi My Friend

[@TigerDude333]

SgtMaj: Assigns crayons to the eaters.

[@SFMF247]

🫡🇺🇸 Haha, Urah!

[@knottypine7935]

Much love and appreciation to all of you! ♥️🇺🇲🤟

[@shonfeliciano8012]

Outstanding, Oohrah!!!!

[@SFMF247]

Appreciate you Devil Dog! Semper Fi My Friend

[@waynebedlam65]

SgtMaj Black was one of my Drill Instructors way back in 1994 plt 3192 Semper Fi!!!!

[@williampayne4003]

Had a heated discussion with my Marine Corp Sergeant Major when assigned to MNSTC-I during my deployment to Iraq 2006 - 2007. He said that me and my other Army CSMs needed to be converted to Sergeants Majors while in country. When asked why, he said the Marines didn’t have CSMs. To which I explained to him more than once, that he held the equivalent rank and the Master Gunnery Sergeant was the equivalent of the Army Sergeant Major. I also told him that my older brother was a Marine and that I knew the MC Hymn long before I learned the Army Song. And that if I had wanted to be a Marine, I would have joined the Corp. All of my CSMs, to include myself, were the senior advisors to our commanders. In my case, I was the command sergeant major to the brigadier general in command of CMATT. In the multi national, multi compo MNSTC-I command, the Marine Sergeant Major never got it. 3/4s of the Command were Army Soldiers. We never relinquished our wreaths and when LTG Dempsey’s replacement came in, he brought his own CSM with him from the states. For the duration of that command no other Marine filled that billet.

[@obviousman]

This is something I wish the army would do a bit more. Kinda complicated, maybe a little unnecessary, but I feel like it’s pretty clear to everyone who’s got what expertise with a rank structure like this.

[@SFMF247]

Obviousman you’re right, it makes it clearer who the expert is. Maybe complicated until you learn it, but once you do, it works a well oiled machine. HOOAH URAH SFMF

[@Texas.rig.Scotty]

The army all messed up with corporal and specialist rank. Always drove me crazy being a Marine in a class of soldiers. Never knew who was in charge 😂 other than us Marines of course.

[@AviArwahki-pq2hz]

And of course the top NCO . Command Sargent Major of the Marine Corps. Right Hand to the Commandant of the United States Marine Corps. Hoorah !

[@asepos]

My grandfather was a MSgt in USMC and deployed to the Pacific on the USS Midway during WWII and fought all the way up to Okinawa then went to Korea in the 1950s. While he didn’t have an exploding bomb on his patch, I wouldn’t have dared made a pineapple reference to him if he did have one. All my letters I’d write to him as a kid in the late 1980s were addressed to him by his rank, first and foremost. He took life seriously and you didn’t want to cross him. Everything was about respect and doing the best you could so, and if you didn’t, you did it again until it was perfect. Sure he could be kind, but he was definitely born hard.

[@SFMF247]

URAH! “…born hard”! Your father is part of the storied history and tradition of our beloved corps. May he Rest In POWER. Semper Fi My Friend!

[@agonzalez8924]

Don't think I ever saw a master gunnery sergeant my entire 4 yr enlistment, and if I did it was probably in passing or in a ceremonial event. There just weren't that many for some reason.

[@HolyDiverDio928]

I’m remember we had this old salty SGT Major who was a Vietnam Vet. He had a bad hip and used to run with us with his cane. Was eventually forced to retire due to his medical issues. We hated that guy pretty much ran the company. Every officer was scared to question him. He wanted everything squared away even required spitshine on your combat boots. We purposely would run as fast as we could to try to break him. But he kept running. That man was the real Gunny Highway.

[@marcdemmon208]

In Canada senior in Lested / warrant officer Master warrant chief warrant officer , RSM regimental Sargent Major is position over a regiment and commanding officer side kick

[@SFMF247]

This would make a great post, comparing the two countries military. Thanks Marc! Semper Fi My Friend

[@Johann-uc9sn]

One kicks your ass, the other is chill.

[@YutNow]

I know those barracks! That the Marine Military Academy in Harlingen, TX.

[@DavidGarcia-zu3hl]

Their personalities tend to be just....slightly different as well. Respected the advice that both gave.

[@SFMF247]

Urah! Semper Fi My Friend

[@marshallquigley2027]

That is a dope shirt right there!

[@SFMF247]

Urah! SFMF

[@tamarackgaming]

In Boot Camp, they tell you a whole lot about what it is to be a Marine. Nothing during my career prepared me for 'Gunny, you have a choice to make.'

[@JoshuaSchilder-e7o]

You were my heavy in boot camp! Platoon 1011 Bravo company. Staff Sgt Edwards, Sgt Cece, Sgt Barrett, Staff Sgt Rangel. Semper Fi!! - Schilder

[@SFMF247]

URAH That was an awesome Platoon! Thanks for being here. We need you Brother. Semper Fi My Friend

[@felicianoescobar7864]

Served with with you in 2/5! In Ramadi! I was with Col K and SgtMaj Jordan’s PSD! I’m 07

[@SFMF247]

Urahhh! “Retreat Hell”! Great to see you on here Feliciano, Semper Fi My Friend

[@carltaylor5251]

The ranks at one time was reversed a Master Gunnery Sgt. used to out rank a Sgt. Major. They must've switch it over and a Master Sgt used to out rank a First Sgt. Well whatever the case may be kudos to anyone who obtain any of those ranks. And deserves all the respect.

[@msgt1942]

the diffrence is one goes pog and the other stays in his field and is a MASTER in his field. one is retired on active duty the other works/earns his pay. one is not needed the other is absolutely necessary.

[@jward9637]

Spot on explanation. Semper Fi!

[@SFMF247]

Glad you think so! Good lookn pup in your profile pic! Semper Fi My Friend

[@Tisrok]

This man looks like every 1st Sgt. Dude makes my blood pressure go up and my back straighten out lol

[@straitjacket8689]

I was under the impression that you could choose which way to go Master Guns or SMaj

[@rossbabcock3790]

Good video. One of the obscure facets of MC rank. How bout a vid on a Gunner. In 3 minutes or less.

[@bodidley5015]

It’s really made one rank below. You either take the MSgt or 1stSgt route. Very few if any switch after that.

[@SFMF247]

@Bo Didley -yes sir, concur! Thank you for adding to the discussion. Semper Fi My Friend

[@bodidley5015]

@@SFMF247 it’s rare in my limited experience to come across a master guns. Like a Marine Gunner it’s unicorn like.

[@SFMF247]

They’re like the ninja - you hear stories of them existing, but very, very rarely ever see one 😎

[@modernneanderthal6970]

2006-2014, i wanted to be a Master Guns. I had a few Gunnies and Master Guns that I looked up to. Unfortunately bad mistakes were made.

[@chrismarbrey9678]

It also sometimes depends on MOS as to which rank you can wear.

[@SFMF247]

Not in the Marine Corps, brother Chris… Urah, Semper Fi My Friend