What’s the difference between the M6, the TTL, and the Leica MP film cameras?

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[@MB-or8js]

Funny that the major difference between M6 and MP was only mentioned in a side sentence - the often cumbersome patch flare was finally removed fully in the MP. This is actually the main difference and advantage of the MP over the M6. The M6 can be upgraded with a MP rangefinder patch, but it is expensive. Later M7 models also use the MP rangefinder patch avoiding the flare. Using my M6 classic since 6 years now, the patch flare is the only complaint I have with this camera.

[@AndrejsZavadskis]

what is "cumbersome patch flare" ?

[@andyp1170]

I was wondering whether this patch flare was removed or fixed in the new 2022 M6? Thanks

[@MB-or8js]

@@andyp1170 Yes - the new M6 uses the same patch as in the MP. This and newer electronics for the meter system are the only benefits.

[@dantree1976]

Great as always, I have learned if I switch my M6 classic to bulb it functions the same as an off switch. I've killed a few batteries before figuring that out.

[@thebarnackhour1872]

Thanks Dan !

[@Irnbruist]

never thought about that - thanks for the tipp!

[@fgj4990]

Thanks for this - really helpful description of the differences between these cameras.

[@NarcissismSurvivor]

I have both the M10 and the M Monochrom (246). Just got the call today that my MP is on the way! So excited!

[@thebarnackhour1872]

Congrats! The MP is one of our favorites!

[@macbookdieter]

Hey Dan, I’ve purchased 3 cameras from you, two last year and one this year. MM246 Monochrom, M6 classic, and the latest a M5. Very happy with everything. Tell Ernie “hi”

[@thebarnackhour1872]

Yay! I'm so glad to hear it! Ernie says Hi backatcha... happy shooting !!

[@sov33]

Hey Dan! Good to see you even if it's on youtube. regards, James Gallacher

[@thebarnackhour1872]

Thanks James! All the best !

[@_analog_photo]

2:48 --> if classic M6 is in Bulb settings, it should not activate the light meter, with or without shutter cocked.

[@MB-or8js]

correct - wish this would have been more elaborated about in the video. It is possible though that current still flows then the shutter button is pressed even the light meter markings are not activated in B mode. I never heard or read about it, but this video implies this as an option.

[@RogierYou]

But does it take pictures?

[@chenyang5448]

Picked up the MP this afternoon. I am lucky that I don't have to wait. Last Friday I saw one in the shop and paid 10% deposit. Organised my finance in the weekend and bought it today. I am so happy that I got one in time. Rumours said that Leica will introduce a new film camera in October. Will the MP be replaced?

[@thebarnackhour1872]

Enjoy!

[@richardsimms251]

Very, very enjoyable video. RS. Canada

[@davidpuglia4813]

Another interesting Barnack Hour - nice work. A suggestion when Keith can't be your co-host maybe a guest "co-host" photographer on zoom like the Phil Penman Zoom you presented. They can have a mini-presentation on their work and camera choice - could be a very interesting addition to some of the Barnack Hour episodes. Keep it short along with the other interesting topics presented.

[@thebarnackhour1872]

We’re working toward interviews now! Thank you so much

[@number6705]

Enjoyed the video

[@jamesrice670]

Something looks a bit different there at the store! Is it the shelves? Anyway, great to see another Barnack Hour!

[@thebarnackhour1872]

Dan got more handsome - thanks for noticing!!

[@isiahwarren_707]

If you put the non TTL m6 in bulb it does the same function as the TTL’s off button for the light meter

[@thebarnackhour1872]

Yes it does so long as the shutter is not wound!

[@Kusanosuke1]

Good video, but i know I need to ask. If Mike Ditka was rewinding a roll of film, considering the sausage size of his fingers, which would be easier to use? The crank of the M6 or the knob style of the MP?

[@thebarnackhour1872]

hahahaha - MP rewind knob for sure!

[@yelowyelow018]

love it

[@GiancarloBenzina]

We want a M7-2, electronics that work and use USB-charging, instead of the difficult to get CR1/3 type batteries or over 12 LR44 per day. ;-)

[@nickharrison211]

Does the mp have the same ttl flash metering that the m6 ttl has?

[@thebarnackhour1872]

It is our understanding that the modern MP camera has the same flash capability as the M6 TTL

[@nickharrison211]

@@thebarnackhour1872 thank you for the answer!

[@drwatson12345]

Have you heard anything about the M6TTL not being serviceable anymore for metering specifically if you have an issue? I have read differing opinions, and am not sure if the 'TTL flash metering' is not serviceable, but that the traditional light metering is serviceable? Or, if it is an issue that affects both 'TTL flash metering' and traditional light meter?

[@thebarnackhour1872]

Yes we have heard of that but whether or not it can be fixed depends on the exact problem

[@Daphantom99]

What's a fair price for a great condition M6 ttl going for today?

[@thebarnackhour1872]

Depends on the details - and what you deem is fair to pay. Typically around $4000

[@BackFocus11]

Dan is da Leica man!

[@landonakiyama]

Great info here! I’m in the market for an M6 TTL but been seeing information about bubbling on the top plate caused by a reaction in the zinc. I heard this issue was fixed in the production of later M6 TTL but can you confirm? Or are all M6 / M6 TTLs susceptible to this?

[@denbeigh]

I've seen ttl m6 with "chicken pox" but if you find one without it, I would assume it's safe from harm after all these years. I did hear the very last ttl's were brass but I can't confirm, it would be rare anyway. I've had an m4p with slight bubbling. I wouldn't worry too much about it unless it's already popping up.

[@vangstr]

You missed the M7.

[@Owanneke]

so... you are saying that the improved internals, gears etc of the MP, are, for all intents and purposes, irrelevant and you will get same life out of the normal M6?

[@thebarnackhour1872]

No; I do not mean to give that impression. Can you point me to how you came to understand this so that I can address this, please? I cannot find where I say or hint at that in the video.

[@Owanneke]

@@thebarnackhour1872 My mistake. @4:05 you say you discussed the important details and there are some other differences that are not really relevant. But you were only talking about the M6 vs M6TTL versions, not about the MP. My question comes from the current pricing of an M6J and an MP are about the same, so how to choose one over the other?

[@thebarnackhour1872]

@@Owanneke assuming the price and viewfinder magnification are the same then we suggest choosing the one you like better from an aesthetic standpoint.

[@ekonkante]

11:36 With all due respect, Leica's functions don't come before their form and appearance. If it were only about the innards (value for dollars) every person watching would be shooting a Fuji GFX 100s or something. Leica is the Gucci or Hermes of cameras. Let's not sugarcoat that.

[@crwn_munkz]

If you put the dial on bulb on the M6 classic the light meter will be off 😉

[@qwiklok]

There is no difference. They are all obscenely, ludicrously expensive. They do not make your photography better any more than a Rolex tells better time. Save your money and get a Contax or some such equivalent.

[@thebarnackhour1872]

Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@_analog_photo]

For me most important part of Leica is that I can use Summar, Summitar, Elmar and some other lenses that will give me unique look, that I cannot have with my Nikkor lenses. I prefer M3 of all M cameras. I agree your comment about the price, but lots of people have more than they need, and they like to have expensive, precise (and of course overpriced) equipment.

[@blakelyle2158]

lamooooo!!!!

[@roberta6037]

Ily

[@joshua4915]

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[@shademanirvanipour6870]

The M6 TTL has a faster Flash photography that is different