What's The Most Fuel Efficient Truck? 2020 Silverado vs Ram 1500 Diesel MPG Shootout!

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[@steverowe2943]

A most excellent comparison! Good job guys.

[@danatkinson6698]

Bill and Ted would be proud dude!

[@mrright2808]

Socrates would agree

[@airtexaco]

@@mrright2808 Socrates.

[@collinator68]

Imagine if vehicle manufacturers didn't have to worry about vehicle exhaust emissions so much, to have only the regulations from 1996 but now have this amazing fuel saving technology, we seriously could get 40+mpg from diesel engines in half ton trucks.

[@ericcaddy2417]

I have a 2018 crewcab ecodiesel with 4x4 and 3.92 rear end. I pull my travel trailer Aspen Trail 28bhs , unloaded 6900lbs maybe 8000lbs full with family. My average speed are 60-65 mph and i do 13 mpg !

[@scott6074]

I call cap 🧢

[@jonscott7686]

I love these tests you guys do it helps out tremendously without having to look through and find 100 other reviews that are legit keep up the great work guys!

[@ralphreynolds1710]

So far the best 2020 Silverado vs. Ram video's I've seen on the new 3.0 diesel engine 1500 trucks!I can't wait until they release the Ike towing results between these two trucks, great work TFL truck!!

[@mas921]

Finally! Been waiting for this!

[@WheresWilson58]

I just ordered a '21 Silverado RST with the I6, I can't wait! Great vid, guys!

[@Hogger280]

I hope you don't have any check eng. light problems.

[@RBZ06LT6]

@@Hogger280 even if that happens, its rarely a big concern. It literally tells you something is to be looked at. Some automakers dont even let you know in advance and the vehicle breaks down on you.

[@agentwade]

@@RBZ06LT6 Who? ObdII has been law since like 95.5

[@kevinhoule8016]

I have the RST with the baby duramax...few recall calibration updates for emissions and the common radio issue, but otherwise my favorite truck of all time, without going over my budget of course...

[@trevorbury8151]

Love your show, very informative, keep up the the great work guys👍🏼

[@KristoferOlsson]

I love the chemistry Mr Truck and Andrew have.

[@jakeguello6814]

ive been waiting for this video for 2 years!!!

[@MrAjay3234]

Great work guys, thank you for doing this video it’s the type of information that’ll sway my decision when time comes to pull the trigger on my 1st ever diesel truck

[@drewhiz7334]

Andre: I'll give you the nozzle Mr. Truck! Mr. Truck: (enthusiastically) Thanks! I love this greasy oily thing! This review was good. GM did a good job on the diesel based on the reviews I've seen on other channels etc.

[@Intimidator82]

Andre: " Do you want me to insert the nozzle?" Mr. Truck: "Go ahead, while you have it in your hand"

[@edwardk6764]

The noozle

[@74beeper97]

Mr. Truck's vest is like a super hero cape.....

[@ryanmartinage]

74Beeper they say he got it from Chuck Norris.

[@Van-Hammer]

@@ryanmartinage 😂😂😂😂

[@RHODEISLANDSUCKS]

Mr. Watch

[@turbojunki]

Trucks are soo good these days... great results guys. Great comparison video as always.

[@timothymclaughlin6860]

Thanks Fellas! What a great comparison! Thanks for what you do .

[@kirk189]

Great! Awesome to see these types of videos, now the Ike!!

[@halfcockedFame]

Andre knowing diesel fuel prices better than Mr. Truck made me gain even more trust in Andre. He seems to be doing a lot of videos and really hanging in there with the channel. He’s been the guy I relate with the best for years.

[@andrewlum9770]

I recently turned my 2020 Chevy 1500 crew cab with the 5.3 v8. I used the truck to tow my 7500 pound boat and got about 7-8 mpg while doing so. Got the 3.0 duramax and that pulls better than the 5.3 and gets around 13-14 doing almost 80. Been nothing but impressed with truck and no problems to report with almost 18000 miles on odometer. I mainly lease but this is the first truck I might buy!

[@michaellarrick8881]

Except you paid 10k for a diesel option that you’ll never get your money back out of and diesel is a dollar more a gallon. So basically unless you buy that truck and keep it for years, you’ll never really see the difference getting 4mpg better in the diesel

[@the1stvendetta]

Its a $1K option over the 5.3, the half tons are not like the three quarter tons at all

[@firstlast---]

Get the lz0. Pistons are stronger

[@thewoodmaniac]

Very well done - great job guys. Appreciate the presentation and the info. Thumbs up.

[@Spridle60]

Great video guys. Keep up the good work.

[@andyharman3022]

It's difficult to get an accurate comparison in fuel economy running unloaded on such a short test loop. The Ram used 2.00 gallons, and the Chevy used 1.95 gallons. That difference could have easily gone the other way due to simple factors involved in topping up the tank. A longer mpg loop should be used.

[@JerseyMikeP]

Not to mention changes in wind direction/strength or drafting another vehicle.

[@meals24u]

Andy Harman I agree .. Should’ve ran both trucks empty, same time, 98 mile stretch at least..

[@steveknight9254]

Or increases in temp as the day goes on it gets warmer, road warms up tires are more pliable. I noticed on the phone time stamp the test started around noon. The road and air temps are going up.

[@dontask7898]

This is probably the best and most accurate truck to truck comparison you guys have done. Great video guys.

[@uriahgottfried6565]

Great review as always! Now that fuel cost has doubled, these reviews are helpful to make informed purchasing decisions.

[@davidu8688]

Yeah right. You will spend just as much in a year as much as the truck costs if not careful.

[@rlhmarines]

As always guys...great same day video review...thanks!!!

[@isaiahjacobsmeyer359]

“I inserted the noosle” 😂

[@uprighter65]

Great comparison! Thanks. How about a segment on diesel additives and maybe some mileage comparisons with and without. Love the channels!

[@revgordon91]

I LOVE THESE COMPARISONS!!

[@TheUnsureFox]

I must admit, I was not expecting that result! Good job to both of you, and good job, Chevy and Ram!

[@exparrot9074]

That is phenomenal fuel economy for a full size truck. Is there any chance you guys can test the 4X4 variants of these trucks with the diesel engines?

[@bmartinez2086]

You'll probably just lose 2mpg it ain't much from what I've seen from these tests.

[@Rockrewls]

Agreed full crew cab 4x4 trucks would be great!!

[@gregoryfaulkner5345]

I'm glad they did 2WD so we could see just what these new power trains can do without adding elements that destroy their potentials. We already know that adding 4WD will take away most of what is good about a work truck but that most people choose them anyway. Maybe they should put 36's mud tires, an on off road packages, add a brush guard, leveling kit so we can see how much we can destroy good engineering.

[@exparrot9074]

@@gregoryfaulkner5345 even with snow tires and weight in the back a 2WD truck will not make it up my hill in the winter. 4WD is a necessity in Upstate NY if you intend to drive though snow and get over the hills. I'm glad we saw what the 2WD trucks could do, but I still want to see what the 4WD trucks will do.

[@dchawk81]

@@gregoryfaulkner5345 Wait why is 4WD a bad thing in a work truck? There's a lot of work done by trucks that isn't on dry pavement. Very few trucks are 2WD anymore because people realize without something in the back weighing it down (the same weight that saps fuel economy), 4WD can be necessary. The powertrain losses on an unused, decoupled 4WD system are so minimal that it's not worth not having most of the time. You need a huge fleet that absolutely never uses it to see the benefits.

[@michaelneuhaus4432]

This was a great example of true knowledge for people to know what a truck can do awesome job

[@Vern.Anderson]

Great job Kent and Andre!!!

[@carlitosperez3092]

Thanks for taking the time to do these real world test. They real help us make your decisions.

[@JanBartos24]

Great job as always! What would we do without TFL? :-)

[@ClassicCarsbyLloydCharlesCity]

18 ram eco. Love it! SEMA 57 rat g asser! Love the video!,

[@danielwoods8602]

Thanks to all you guys for your opinions and all your knowledge about trucks. Tks so much. Tk care to all.

[@diverbob8]

This made my whole week....just picked up the 2020 Silverado High Country with the 6.2 L and the Performance Package (435 HP)....yep, scary fast...and yet, in the last two days, I have the fuel economy over 21 MPG by laying of the throttle a bit (Did I day that was in the hills of West Virginia....)

[@craigschulz1852]

Hahahaha! I love how Mr Truck says "Holy Cow Diesel is at $2.989 / gal. Here in Canada Diesel is $1.09.9 / litre which works out to $ 4.989/ Gal. Enjoy!

[@dilsher12]

I wish it was 1.09/litre, here in Vancouver its 1.45/litre.

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

That's what happens when you live in a socialist country!

[@bmartinez2086]

@@JohnDoe-nz6bk In Cali its 3.99 a gallon dude and we dont live in a socialist country.

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

Brandon Martinez again, that's what happens when you live in a socialist/communist country... Uhhh, I mean state!

[@johnathanyinger]

You mean $3.160 US/Gal. Get your conversions right bud.

[@alanj7306]

Great job guys 👍. Those are some impressive numbers for the highway gas mileage in a pickup truck. It’s most surprising that the Ram costs $41k. That’s not a bad price at all for a new truck. That was refreshing to hear after seeing all these new trucks that cost $70-80+k. Very nice comparison 👍

[@kingjc9935]

Im waiting to go to my basic training base and you guys don’t have the idea how happy I am to see this video, I was thinking I was not going to know the outcome of both of this truck mpg for a good time. Know im ready to buy my new 1/2 diesel truck once I get back to my hometown

[@kevinjones5057]

You guys are putting out really great videos and have been really helpful. What is your mileage loop?

[@Ahats5]

I would love to see a 3/4 ton diesel vs 1/2 ton diesel on the same conditions, comparing max load on the 1/2 on each truck. Might help some of us who are on the line for typical towing applications, but could be swayed up to the bigger truck and a bigger trailer in the future

[@dchawk81]

As someone who went from half ton to 1 ton, just get the bigger truck straight off if you can afford it. Fuel economy, power, etc aside you'll appreciate and even love the extra stability when trailering...even if you only ever planned on towing 8-10k that the half tons can do. Especially if any of your trailers is a box. Having said that, if all i ever planned to pull was my open deck car trailer (9990GVWR) the half ton would be fine because of airflow. But as soon as I got the 1 ton I was able to pull the open like it was nothing. And the 24' enclosed that my half ton technically could do but white knuckled, the 1 ton just doesn't care is back there. It feels the weight getting going and you see the fuel usage, but one handed cruising at 70mph is nothing. The half ton scared the bejeesus out of me at 60 with trucks passing and crosswinds, etc. I'm the one passing in the 1 ton. Construction zones aren't scary anymore, straight as an arrow, narrow lanes no big deal. It's glorious.

[@meals24u]

dchawk81 nice, what about towing a boat, let’s say 3k lbs.. My Titan looses efficiency like crazy when towing anything, even just a 3k lbs boat.. Would love a diesel for that

[@dchawk81]

@@meals24u For fun when I first got it I pulled an Acura on a trailer and it got 15 average on a loop of half highway and half state route with towns. I ran about 62-65 and occasionally punched it up to 70 around traffic. The state road was 55 max.

[@dchawk81]

@@meals24u For the record, I don't think I'd get a diesel for a 3k boat. I doubt the fuel savings would offset the premium paid for the drivetrain. A good V8 like the Ford Coyote I had would be fine, IMHO. It was fine even pulling a Lincoln Navigator on the open trailer and didn't use enough gas to warrant a diesel upgrade. A boat would be nothing. All vehicles suck more fuel when towing so there's no way around that. The Nissan is probably just exceptionally thirsty by today's standards, but if it's paid off and still reliable, that's another thing to consider. You can burn a lot of fuel for a car payment.

[@meals24u]

dchawk81 ok thanks for the feedback! Appreciated.

[@formerice]

I've gotten over 800 miles on my 26 gallon tank. 33 gallon would be unreal. Love the Ecodiesel.

[@superior3384]

You guys are great. Love your channel. You always show new truck's. I was wondering if you could do a few videos of used pick up truck's. Ram , Toyota Tundra, Chevy Silverado, full size used trucks

[@shuckan]

Great job guys!

[@cumminsman4670]

Glad you’re beating the EPA, it used 2 be I could never beat them ....I always thought they tested down hill or something. Lol

[@steveknight9254]

I’m wondering if they warm the trucks up before doing the test.

[@Hogger280]

The manufacturers are testing (yes they do it and report to the EPA) more conservatively to avoid complaints and lawsuits like the Kia Soul.

[@truckguyjoe]

Way to go Chevy! Everyone was doubting the Chevy 0-60 & fuel economy!

[@foxwithshades7080]

And Chevy Announced that the are increasing the tow rating for it next year.

[@jasonfalk7696]

Now they just have to change the way it looks!

[@224bigwheel]

Because it's ugly. I'm a Chevy guy. But won't drive this truck until they make the front end not look like a Honda. The ram looks 10x better

[@jaysson1151]

They also need to offer a larger fuel tank.

[@stevochar]

What is the 0 to 60 on this

[@VikingBagsYT]

Much respect from everyone here at Vikingbags!

[@HulkStillGotIt]

I really can't wait to see you do the new Jeep Wrangler Eco Diesel real world test. Great videos I love it!

[@harleyjackson5513]

The Gladiator is having problems with frames bending. Lol

[@hungryhungryhummer]

I really like the 3.0 duramax. Inline six, simple, reliable. I think these things will hold up. Good job GM!

[@hungryhungryhummer]

Update: this is the worst engine GM makes. Oil pump belt and timing chain only serviceable from the back by removing the transmission.

[@luisperez5462]

@@hungryhungryhummer really?

[@hungryhungryhummer]

@@luisperez5462 yessir. Just saw a gm engineer explain it. He said “this oil pump belt can be easily serviced by simply moving the transmission back, and the timing chains are good for the life of the engine.” Aka you gotta drop the whole damn transmission to service the engine.

[@corvetteZ3r]

@@hungryhungryhummer does that make it not reliable tho?

[@ChrisAIO]

@@hungryhungryhummer I don't think I would go that far. it doesn't have to be replaced until 150k miles, and I can drop a transmission quicker than I can remove the front fascia off these newer trucks.

[@berkalper4742]

Those a really impressive mpg numbers from both. It's good that ram offers the diesel in more trims levels, because the 8k price difference could pay for a decade of fuel

[@kidamere2408]

Yeah exactly makes it hard to justify a diesel

[@RBZ06LT6]

8k is like 2-3 years worth of fuel lol. For the extra longevity and better resale value. Its way better.

[@HarshSingh-iu3xs]

@@RBZ06LT6 way less if you tow for a living lmfao 8k will be gone in 1.5 years.

[@ronpauley3225]

Great real world test. You can sure tell your driving I 76 out and into Denver with the noise from the highway expansion joints on the road. Boy I wish they would fix that road.

[@DetachedGarage]

Great test TFLT! I'm interested to see what a 2500 would do with the same test.

[@paulherring8208]

Both good mpg for 1/2 ton trucks

[@tylermitchell4407]

🤣🤣 Mr Truck “you don’t know the song do ya?”

[@johnnyrez1]

Great video gentlemen.

[@jamesdean780]

Interesting. I have a 2020 silverado rst four wheel drive duramax. It also has a levelling pack so it is not elevated at the rear. I found the mileage to be similar to this demo pulling a 5000 lb (approx) camper in hilly terrain. Very happy with it so far. Purchased used with 50,000 km on it. )

[@gfinnstrom]

there are some other sites that do the mpg test and they have adapted your style of filling topping off the tanks guess you set the standards

[@kaliman198117ify]

Great comparisons. I would like to see a different truck from ram other than pre production. Also I'm not sure if it is 66 miles each way or total but I think the 98 mile loop will bring more accurate results

[@seagullsbtn]

Doing the 66 mile loop, swapping trailers, then doing it again, and refilling once only after both runs might be the best of all.

[@andyharman3022]

It's 66 miles total. I agree with you, they should keep the 98 mile loop.

[@GMZee559]

Great Video/Show👏👏👌

[@tjeick]

Can’t wait to see how these engines hold up over time.

[@steveknight9254]

Me too. I don’t like to buy a first year of anything, RD on my Nickle, NOT! Let someone else pay!

[@claymcdaniel8500]

Curious to see how both of these platforms last with their emissions systems.

[@airtexaco]

Clay McDaniel can you imagine how much better they would perform if they took all of that EPA junk off???

[@steveknight9254]

I’m hoping with the LP (dpf filtered) EGR loops they will be less fragile.

[@Hogger280]

The Chevy uses a low pressure EGR most of the time after engine warms up and the Exhaust gas is taken out after the particulate filter so minimal soot going into the EGR valve.

[@roamingwolfpack]

Max towing capacity is a big factor for those that will use a truck for towing, even if on occasion! Personally Ram with the higher towing capacity & larger fuel tank win.

[@chadsteele1]

Will be nice to see the HD comparisons.

[@Rockrewls]

And now for the IKE, great job folks!!!

[@cash2.0]

My Ram 2500 crew cab 4X4 gets over 25mpg highway unloaded at 65mph running a stock 5.9 high output common rail 325hp Cummins.

[@TheXOoftheRO]

Rams have always dominated efficiency.

[@meals24u]

woof bark growl what year? That’s impressive

[@cash2.0]

It's a 2006. The 5.9 Cummins does not come with a DPF or SCR smog devices. The later 6.7 does so I chose the older one. Mine is considered a 3rd generation. It is 24 valve but has common rail injection and doesn't have the notorious killer dowel pin of the 1st gen and no #53 block bad castings and no VP44 injection pump issues of the 2nd gens. They got it right in the 3rd gen and, unlike the 1st & 2nd gens, can get a real crew cab.

[@travispfannmuller7717]

Been there, had an 06 3500 srw 4x4 based on the advice of a relative who raved about fuel efficiency. My experience was it was comparable with my 06 6.0 power stroke 3500 srw 4x4 and buddies 04 duramax. And if I drove the Cummins like I had a raw egg under my foot I could get 20, towing was worse economy than the other trucks in my experience. And the horrible 4 SPD auto (even after significant upgrades) made towing heavy an adventure. New trucks are so much better they shouldn't be mentioned in the same conversation in my opinion

[@harleyjackson5513]

New Ford 6.7 is impressive.

[@theunknowntinman]

Test the 4x4 Top of the Line versions of these trucks please!

[@hughg.rection9161]

my 2008 cobalt xfe with 328k miles on it gets about 32-35mpg. Ive just bought a 2020 silverado duramax RST and ill be happy to know it can accomplish the same.. and its a little more comfy haha. great job guys

[@MJPeddler]

Great side x side comp! I could ALMOST convince myself to go 1/2-ton instead of 3/4 next time.

[@ericrodriguez3541]

How many of us now fuel up, wait 30sec and then fill it lol 😂🙌

[@MrInnovativeSound]

Great job guys! I’m curious how often regen cycles effect these tests. The passive regen modes are so difficult to detect in these trucks, but could easily swing the mileage dramatically one way or the other.

[@ShotGunner5609]

Depends on your driving. Longer distances the engine is doing it by itself without needing to go into regen. Least thats how semis are.

[@406Steven]

@@ShotGunner5609 It's all about using your diesel truck as a diesel truck rather than a daily driver. We got over 200k miles out of the stock emissions system on our 2016 Silverado 3500 as a car hauler before having to replace the DPF. The second DPF outlasted the head gaskets and transmission.

[@Rift45]

@@406Steven Excellent point, if you run a diesel all day the MPGs get better and better. Short trips it will be much lower.

[@fr8trainUS]

My 06 Cummins closing in on 300k I average 18 mpg not towing. I can't complain. Now if I can get the death wobble sorted out

[@allanj4576]

Great to see these comparisons but just like anything it's a different story when you start dealing with mountains all day, I live in western Canada and I never get even close to EPA ratings.

[@shotgunabc]

Really like this comparison as I am looking at both of these trucks right now and weighing the options, but I got to tell ya, with a 7000lb load behind these trucks, an da 7000lbs load behind my 2016 RAM SLT 4x4 I am getting just almost as good mileage as the chevy, I am averaging 11.5MPG with 7000lbs and my truck is a 4x4. The only advantage for me would be the non towing fuel economy, best unloaded MPG for me is 24MPG. Great job fellas keep it up!

[@PatrickRich]

man those are impressive unladen highway numbers.

[@rcairforceone]

I'd like to see a hyper mile test... take a 2wd truck, add a tonneau cover and a 2/4 drop. See how big a difference it makes, if any.

[@hendo337]

Don't for get a set of low rolling resistance, tall/narrow/80psi tires.

[@rcairforceone]

@@hendo337 that would be good for the test, but I won't trade off grip for the low rolling resistance on my daily(s)!

[@JerseyMikeP]

Funny thing is that there is a KZbin guy with his own page that said a 1/2 ton couldn't tow his 7,500Lbs. trailer Safely... So he Bought a F250 W/ 6.7 Diesel, Lol.

[@harleyjackson5513]

The Ford F-250 Superduty with the 6.7 is an awesome truck.

[@kevinvoyer5053]

Hey guys! Here I am camping with my travel trailer, at just over 6,000 lbs. with my 2019. Colorado Crew Cab, 4x4, V6, my average mpg at the pumps today at sea level more or less, but hills on the Florida Turnpike, came to 11 mpg! At 70 mph!

[@craigr6763]

I noticed the rear end sway on my eco diesel as well, I was thinking of getting a bigger anti sway bar? Your opinion? And all the eco diesels come with the block heater in the motor, just the cord is a option

[@dylandownard209]

I’d be really curious to see a long term longevity test (100k+ miles of mixed city, Highway, loaded and unloaded use) to see how they stack up in terms of reliability. Both trucks I think would make a great truck, I just have a hard time trusting either one. The eco diesels suffered from cam gear slippage and emissions issues, and reading up on the duramax specs and how it’s made I’m not so sure I like all the aluminum used in the construction considering the higher heat diesels put out, even with iron cylinder liners. Also not so sure I like the fact that there’s up to 10 injection events per combustion cycle. Sounds ridiculously over complicated and prone to failure.

[@computer1166]

I think both engines would work fine under 100k miles, over that numbers maybe it's time to sell

[@davidporter7051]

The 3.0 Duramax has proven to be extremely reliable especially over the Ecodiesel. The only downside to the Duramax some like to consume oil.

[@yiannisnikiforou3839]

Great video. Are you guys going to test the F150 power stroke vs these two trucks?

[@paulzak7660]

TFL great test! How about using trailer weight of 80% of towing capacity of each truck? This would be interesting!

[@michaelmappin4425]

My RAM towed a travel trailer through 38 states over 4 years. I was overweight by 200 lbs the whole time. My hitch distributed it evenly to 50 lbs per tire.

[@garthhayward9581]

That's a really good result from both manufacturers. Amazing to see how these small block high torque motors have advanced.Anyone recall what the Fords results were? Great work Andre and Mr Truck.

[@yogiyoda]

powerstroke got 11.6 towing. but you can't really compare because that trailer didn't have a hay rack.

[@garthhayward9581]

yogiyoda Thanks, any idea how it did unloaded?

[@yogiyoda]

@@garthhayward9581 -nope, sorry

[@harleyjackson5513]

I would definately get the Ford!

[@kirkgordon4469]

Mr Truck was having a hard time talking in the dodge with all that bouncing around goin on in cab 😂

[@calebniederhofer6529]

The ram has the best ride out of all them by far lol. It has a coiled over suspension. I have a Ford , and i will admit Ram has the best interior , ride .

[@joecaddy2325]

very impressive. Just picked up the Chevy (First one ever, always been a Ford guy) -- and without towing a 21 foot bass boat -- I am really impressed. Probably going to try out the boat tow tomorrow.

[@harleyjackson5513]

You will be back. I did the same. I should have stayed with Ford!

[@steveknight9254]

Andre, Mr truck. Thanks for your consistent standardized testing, it makes it easy to compare apples to apples. The Straight six is a better diesel in my books. I’m not sure if the duramax has oil consumption issues but I do prefer the GM despite the lower towing weight. I’m looking forward to seeing how the Tahoe\Suburban compares on this test to the Chevrolet/GMC truck when the Duramax becomes available in that GM sport Ute platform. I’m also interested in how the GM/Dodge 4X4 trucks compare on this test. Most people in snowy states\Provinces prefer the 4X4’s. Andre I appreciate your calibration of the vehicle Speedo’s to a true GPS speed, I have always found GM to be dead nuts accurate (Which has was confirmed by your cross check) to the gps speed but don’t have any experience with Dodge any comments? I curious if the ram speedo is as accurate.

[@keithmurphy806]

Note: I have a 2019 model ram and there is a recall note for the mirrors if you have the power folding mirrors. The internal gear strips out and will need replaced. If you plan on buying one with power mirrors test them out. Mine stopped working after 6 months.

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

I did not know that. I have a 2019 longhorn with 3500 miles and I'm going after the lemon law right now.

[@lococubaa]

John Doe What problems are you having?

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

Transmission clunk (works as designed, but ram is working on a permanent fix), electrical issues with the infotainment system and anc. Brakes were replaced, rear main oil leak (300 miles), rim had to be replaced, interior panel piece had to be replaced, chrome molding had to be replaced, steering wheel has to be replaced, rear back window has to be replaced, they don't know if they can fix the hood yet (falling off the hinges), bed was made wrong (ram said deal with it), having issues with the gas tank, dash creaks, interior plastic window molding issue, ventilated seat issue. Paint is starting to change a different color on the plastic pieces (tri color white).

[@lococubaa]

John Doe holy crap lol. Hope the lemon law goes your way.

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

Jay P. Yea, me too. But I've been reading that these have been common issues with the 19's. I hope the 20's are much better!

[@darrengibson644]

Nice job! But sadly- not so much on the singing....Curious- do you know what was the weight difference between the trucks?

[@geezusmeatball1328]

Chevy weighy 200lbs less than ram thats what they said last video

[@2010hondacbr1000rr]

Incredible! About to purchase the new 2022 updated model chevy high country

[@xtcforyou9290]

You need to do a longer trip!

[@JsGarage]

Percentage wise the 3.0L diesels are taking a bigger hit when the trailer gets hooked up compared to gas. The Ram for the sake of easier math only gets 1/3 the economy.

[@hendo337]

I suppose one good thing is that if someone towed alot with them heavy they are probably working them hard enough to not clog up the emissions crap and have regen cycles....that's all I got that could be positive.

[@alexs3187]

You’re going to save about 30%, the 90-95% of the time when you’re not towing. Then maybe 10-20% the 5-10% of the time you are pulling, so it still makes more sense to pay the extra for the diesel as opposed to paying that extra for the 6.2.

[@swss12]

the MPG drops similar (but worse) as a gasser. more load = more fuel...

[@ktpinnacle]

Both trucks did very well. Impressive.

[@sparks2429]

I just got done shopping for a 1500 diesel. Ford was out because they dont offer in every trim. Chevy was a contenter until I found out the timing belts facing the fire wall are the Achilles heel of it. Ram interior feels spacious, has a flat back (good for dogs, and is really torquey. I am now the proud owner of a 2020 ecodiesel bighorn sport in white!

[@kb9oak749]

Biggest and most important difference: Duramax engine is not a FIAT. That's a good thing.

[@blegi1245]

oak 1971 KD9NXQ neither is the VM Motori engine in the ram.

[@leehancock2782]

Gm uses fiat diesel in the Colorado and canyon🤔😏

[@blegi1245]

lee hancock no they don't. The engine in Colorado is the VM Motori A 428 DOHC. VM Motori is not Fiat Powertrain Technologies.

[@ShadowOppsRC]

The original eco diesel design was a gm one that gm opted to not use. It was a joint venture.

[@blegi1245]

Shadow Opp.'s RC wrong. A 630 DOHC is based on an internal VM 2.9 liter V6 diesel design who's client was supposed to be GM. GM withdrew from the project due to the global financial crisis. The engine A 630 DOHC is derived from was designed FOR GM, not BY GM.

[@chevyon37s]

I love how Chevy has the nice built in cold weather plug, but the use of a special cord adaptor to go to a normal 120v outlet is dumb.

[@jbt82se]

Do you think a normal 120v outlet would survive the harsh conditions in the lower part of the bumper?

[@chevyon37s]

Jacob Blomqvist yea... look at the 120v receptacle that is used on semi trucks... they’ve been using them for decades. Just open the cap and throw any extension cord on them.

[@johntlarkin]

It looks like a standard IEC C6. The nice thing about standards -- there are so many to choose from!

[@vix121]

@@jbt82se I live in Canada and my cord has been hanging in the lower air damn since i bought it..issue free. What GM is doing is making you buy a special cord that you can't buy anywhere else. So if you lose the one it came with, good luck. Can't be bought anywhere else..for now at least. A friend bought a year old Equinox and the previous owner had lost the extension. The dealer is charging $175 for a replacement lol

[@Rccrdawgs]

99 ranger 3.0 has a old fashion plug hanging.

[@HyperXism]

That is amazing!!

[@titanicsauce2152]

Good video guys. Mr. Truck, those little mirrors are convex, not concave.

[@secondamendment8773]

To bad the Ram didn’t get the same mileage empty as it did last time. That would have been mind blowing.

[@nathanmcdonald610]

30mpg in a full size truck is still pretty damn mind blowing.

[@RossMKF1]

Nathan McDonald yea it is back in 2011 a 4 cylinder was pretty good in a four door Camry getting 31 mpg highway

[@secondamendment8773]

Nathan McDonald Don’t get me wrong, 33MPG empty is great but like I said 40 MPG would have been mind blowing. At that MPG they would have sold them at or above MSRP as fast as they could make them. BTW I really like the Ram and want to get one but since over 80% of the engine is new I’m going to push it off for a year to see what the reliability is going to be on the new engine.

[@karlschauff7989]

@@secondamendment8773 FCA didn't really say anything about what they did to fix the issues that affected the last EcoDiesel, so I don't have much hope for an improvement in reliability.

[@secondamendment8773]

karl yukon I agree. I was hoping to hear that they had addressed the lower bearing and press fit cam gear issues. Instead they made the rings thinner and mucked around with a few other things that may come back to bite them in the a$$. It seams all the big 3 have issues with their oil burners they are putting into their 1/2 tons. From what I hear Ford isn’t getting nearly the mileage they were claiming, Ram is having engine issues and they don’t have a great reputation for the reliability of their electrical system and new GM engine has an aluminum block and the timing chain is at the back of the motor and the oil pump is run by a wet belt. You have to separate the engine from the transmission to work on any of them and the engineers at GM say the engine has a 150K life span.

[@FirePoo]

I gotta admit I love my '14 ecodiesel grand cherokee with the gde tune, but I've never ever ever been a fan of v6 engines. To me they feel like they have the torque of a 4cyl down low with the fuel efficiency of a much larger engine. Basically, I just don't enjoy the way they deliver their power. I've always loved a straight 6 configuration. To me they've always delivered nearly instant torque down low and given fantastic fuel economy compared to v8 counterparts. That's why I've always preferred Toyota supra's to corvettes and i6 jeeps compared to v8 off road monsters. I've never owned an i6 Cummins, but it's definitely on my "must own" list. I purchased my ecodiesel jeep instead of a Cummins 2.5 years ago because I'm averaging 30k+ miles per year. I tow between 1200lbs to 6800lbs every other weekend, but a little ecodiesel was more economical for my purposes driving 600mi/week unloaded. Of the 30k+ miles per year that I drive, at most I'm only towing 3k-5k miles of that, and like I said, the trailers are only 1200lbs to 6800lbs depending on the project that week. I'm extremely interested in the chevy 3.0l diesel simply because it's an i6, so the torque down low compared to the v6 ecodiesel should be immense. I don't really give a rats ass about peak torque, I mean sure it's great having a lot of torque, but really what matters is area under the curve. I want to know how these two deliver their power on a dyno, on the same day, same conditions, same time. The numbers that matter are how much torque each engine puts down off idle up to around 3.5k-4.5k rpm. The area under the curve matters so much more than peak, it really irritates me when people just "parrot" the claimed peak power number. Imo that i6 3.0l diesel could be something truly special. Let's get all 3 3.0l diesels and have a dyno day and overlay all 3 dyno graphs to compare the numbers at various points of the rpm range where the engines are usually being run day-to-day. Please TFL make it happen! ♥

[@frambach508]

Good video. Thanks for the comparison. Results at 20:18

[@chriss2352]

Amazing the difference in diesel price and truck prices watching this in December 2022