What's the next great football tactic? | The Tifo Football Show | Episode 3

[@AnonNomad]

I remember when Tifo first got off the ground and it was SUPER SERIOUS and VERY INFORMATIVE, I have loved the slow degredation into this silliness while still being the best hub of football knowledge on the internet.

[@yudhistira9453]

I mean, i could see IRL was made first to create new way to enjoy their content with "tifo but you could se us who present the video" but i think it must be joe personality and guys not trained profesionally in front of camera naturally makes them into unhinghed comedy show revolves around football XD

[@daniel-cc7bn]

umaxit football

[@StyledObject]

tbf Tifo is still like that, that's why they have Tifo IRL

[@joncoish]

yes man me to. They can be serious when they need to, but funny as well. Great combo!

[@hanifibrahim]

This is the 2nd channel, the irl one

[@robinude6347]

This three dudes are becoming the "top gear" of football, I wil listen to them no matter the topic. Keep up boys!!! Love from Portugal.

[@vladivanovic1234]

Hahaha, such a good comparison. Joe is definitely Clarkson, JJ is definitely Hammond, Alex and Seb rotate as James May.

[@buckethead133]

@@vladivanovic1234 😂😂😂 true I love it how Alex is always serious like James may.

[@theportugueselegend]

Que comparação espetacular 🤣🤣 Podia haver um canal destes em português, quem me dera ter aquele gráfico 👌

[@chrissie9865]

Too perfect a description

[@AimToBeAsGoodAsMe]

Only Pythagoras in boots podcast comes close imo.

[@bluecheese20401]

I remember sensible football transfers and how serious it was. I imagined some data scientists crunching numbers to give an academic answer. It had its place but this new format is just so much more engaging on regular basis. The tifo content is what's needed on a Monday morning

[@MrLePov]

Watching TIFO feels like the creative side of a brain and the analytical side literally fighting each other for supremacy. But the only winner, is the audience 😂

[@fauzirahman3285]

Not sure why, but watching this feels like watching a football version of Jay Foreman's Map Men.

[@telquel7843]

Don't believe the hype: there isn't a left brain and right brain in that sense. Just real juicy moist brains and smooth chalky hard brains.

[@NuclearAtoms]

Question: Is it true that when a newly promoted side from the championship buys new shiny players to compete in the Premier League it makes their chances more slim of staying up because it brings imbalance to the team?

[@rackarafsanjaya3566]

Bring imbalance into the force

[@DavidChong]

I mean that can (and probably often does) happen but there's no reason it necessarily has to. The bigger issue imo might be if you bring in a lot of new guys it takes time for them to gel and learn the systems and you may end up dropping points early on in the season where, if everyone were fully bedded in, you might have a shot at winning or drawing. Arguably there are situations where that can't be avoided if the quality of players is low enough that you have no chance of staying up without the new guys. I guess the ideal situation is if you do as much of this recruitment as you can before you get promoted, but you need to be really sure you're going to make it otherwise you've taken on salary you probably can't afford.

[@ronanfitzpatrick1261]

@@DavidChong Yeah, I guess if you bring in players who have already played in a similar system it's less of a risk

[@lukemclellan2141]

@@DavidChong good points. Do you think that this applied to Sheffield United in their first season after promotion? I don't recall them making many new signings and they overachieved using an uncommon system.

[@adhynugroho9424]

But.... but... Norwich City.

[@Chinozinho7]

Question: what is stopping Dortmund from abandoning their current model of player development and selling them and instead trying to keep their stars as to challenge bayern on a more regular basis? Cos they have had, currently have and for sure will have so much potential as a club were they to keep most of their stars.

[@dzemilmehovic5271]

club was almost bankrupt in 2006, they wanna make sure it never happens again so they stash their cash all these years, but they will start keeping players soon. Especially with Kehl as new sporting director, he just got best Bayerns defender for free and will prolly get the best CB in BL this season-Schlotterbeck too and this is just beginning

[@liamdevine8063]

They need to sell to keep revenue high enough to be able to afford the squad's wages. Selling is a critical source of income without which the club could not prosper as it continues to do.

[@ricktickb00m]

Two words. Bayern Munich

[@anirudhmenon9099]

as players get more stardom and status, they will demand more and more wages. Keeping too many of such players will break dortmund's wage structure

[@classicdansmith]

Players keep wanting to leave! And if you don’t sell they can eventually leave for free like Lewandowski did

[@Dede-nc3jw]

I absolutely adore the shot of the Spinnaker Tower for the quick 10 Southampton questions, top tier trolling.

[@samuelhawes6735]

Never spotted that 😂

[@Truebro79]

Question for tifo: is there a concrete way to know how actually good a player was from before the 1980's such as Best, Pele and all that, and compare them to modern footballers, considering tactics may have been less developed back then or worse defenders so on since not alot of recordings of footballers from back then were taken?

[@mrexcadrill8474]

There is a stat for this in Baseball called WRC+ for position players and WRS+ for pitchers and catchers. It won’t exist in football because the stats required for such a stat just were not recorded back then. So it’s down to conjecture if players such as Kevin Keegan and the like are compared to a Ronaldo or Salah per se

[@Kushb4an]

Ronaldo is the GOAT.

[@Stegibbon]

No. You have been answered.

[@jordanh5787]

Also different equipment (balls, boots, bobbly pitches) and rules (pass back, offside, substitutions)

[@Bagster321]

Tifo IRL is the best example of "chaotic neutral".

[@oh1yeah2]

If Doctor Mark Carey hadn't been introduced with a song, I'd have been deeply disappointed. Alas, JJ never disappoints!

[@thomasjohnson8033]

Question: if Pep were to eventually leave Man City, what sort of drop off would be seen depending on linked managers?

[@thatscouserjay]

I love the way Joe embraces the awkward silences, he thrives in them, he (seemingly) exists for them.

[@control2XS]

Would love for you guys to redo this and try to guess the next great football tactic, based on Pep's new incredibly successful tactic at City, the rise of box midfields, Liverpool's demise/transition, and the increasing prevalence of chaotic Relationism in teams like Fluminense in Brazil.

[@samlast4776]

Theoretically, could a team made up of non top 6 players win the Premier League or is the gap just too steep that even their powers combined wouldn’t give the rest a chance?

[@davidf2114]

They did. It was Leicester. Yes, Mahrez and Kante were then bought up by teams from the big six, but Mahrez and Kante weren't big six players when they won it.

[@alexmarin8727]

I don’t think they could win but they could have a good shot at top 4. Example 11 from Transfermarket values: Zaha-Richarlison-Raphinha Tielemans-Rice-Soucek Digne-Mings-Soyuncu-Castagne Martinez

[@aok2075]

@@alexmarin8727 This team would have no chance. Even if they made top 4 they'd be eaten alive in the champions league

[@robert2690]

@@davidf2114 Leicester is an outlier.

[@nunya2587]

@@robert2690 it still happened. The question wasn't to become a dynasty but if they could win and it's entirely possible

[@ecclestonpaul1]

This new show is the best thing Tifo’s done. So good!

[@kusshalraval8975]

Question: How do teams assess the personality of a player? We've often heard about "personality checks" being done by clubs but how exactly does that happen when a team signs new players?

[@4231jerome]

Yeah I hear that klopp is pretty big on this. He seems to only accept good eggs in his team. If I had to guess, mourinho would be the opposite, since he’s always so keen for his players to be c*nts on the football pitch

[@davidlean1060]

I guess it would be like that scene in David Fincher's The Game, where Mike Douglas is asked all sorts of seemingly random questions designed to find out what his fears are, how he might react under pressure etc.

[@NeoCherrn]

Question: If Joe Devine played for the England squad like he did for Bayern Munich, would the fame go to his head in such a degree that in 20 odd years, there would be a low-budget documentary about the fall of Joe Devine?

[@ohno9819]

Question: If Sean Dyche left Burnley, where would he actually go? He is obviously successful in his style but, would anyone actually want there team to play that way when it is thought of so negatively?

[@cyn1clcynide]

Probably the original Burnley, aka Stoke City

[@tomwantshelp]

The likes of Pulis, Allardyce, and even Warnock keep getting jobs. Someone like Palace will sack a manager mid-season and turn to Dyche. Watford have already appointed him once (and as a successor to Brendan Rodgers no less).

[@uiscahammond3171]

Everton

[@bennybombo]

This made me sad :(

[@charlieclemmow8027]

Question for the TIFO football show: Over the past twenty years, we have seen the dominance of Messi and Ronaldo as the two best players in the world (with Modric being the only exception for the Ballon d’or). However before either player there was Kaka, where does he rank when looking at modern football’s greatest players? P.S: I love you

[@rorrt]

Kaka on PES2008 was OP as HECK!!!!

[@charlieclemmow8027]

@@rorrt him and Adriano on PES 06 were ridiculous!

[@rorrt]

@@charlieclemmow8027 Adriano's left foot was rickydonkulous!

[@disgusting9458]

QUESTION; Can you talk about how Sheffield United's use of overlapping centre backs in the 19/20 season have served as direct influence for Thomas Tuchel's defensive and offensive tactical organisation of Chelsea and pretend that Chelsea are fine and everything is going to be O.K and we're going to be fine and every is great and nothing is wrong?

[@bobbypersons9288]

Question: do the best finishers on average outperform xG? For players like Haaland and Lewandowski, how much higher than xG is reasonable, and how much is luck?

[@danyaalsaeed139]

This whole show is so perfect I’ve never felt so much pride to be an og follower of a KZbin channel

[@lukemclellan2141]

Are you from the umaxit days?

[@hamishpimm1064]

‘Quick ten about Southampton’ shows picture of spinnika tower. Hurts my soul

[@JohnThomas-yb4kz]

Tactical flexibility will bring back a total football mentality. With a wider skill set players can flex into different shapes easier and more efficiently.

[@joemcalister7105]

Lmaooooo the video of Scumhampton being Pompey is brilliant

[@WaterCarrier07]

Gotta love the picture of Portsmouth for Southampton

[@deeptisinha4709]

Lol Route One is coming back to combat the gengenpressing systems that are widely present in the world.

[@windywindmill98]

Hello, based department?

[@ricktickb00m]

Joe Devine is the gift that keeps on giving. How is this both the silliest and most informative football channel on KZbin at once? 🤣

[@OfficialScottR]

This is the most chaotic show I've ever watched

[@seandoyle573]

As soon as i saw the title intro, all i could think was Would I Lie To You? I'm now wondering when you're having Bob Mortimer on guys. It's the crossover we all need.

[@lucasglanville2880]

That would be incredible

[@joshuawilson3099]

Great show, guys! If I were a skeleton for a day I’d go from classroom to classroom taking and liberating as many skeletons as possible.

[@parthpiyushprasad709]

Question: Would we ever see a team like Sunderland, Portsmouth, Wigan, Nottingham Forest etc make it back to the top division? If so, which one is the closest right now and why?

[@joak-wq7bu]

I would imagine that Nottingham Forest are the closest because they are close to the playoffs in the championship while the other teams are in League One (although Wigan will probably get promoted)

[@dondon-ex8kb]

Good question

[@DJWicked15]

QUESTION: Could a team playing a route one tactic win the premier league? i.e. Could a Neil Warnock style team win the premier league title?

[@Stegibbon]

I've been calling this for a while now, they'd need a super solid defence and amazing forwards with Bonnuci style Hollywood ball playing from the back. Might be too difficult to do consistently enough to win a top league though.

[@DJWicked15]

100%. It works in the championship and thats why Warnock has had so many promotions but always seems to fail in the prem. I just wonder what would happen if a team of already world-class players were put into a route one, physical, counter-attacking system like the one Warnock uses. Although I would also assume that there would be no consistency long-term.

[@gluestix17]

With, as pointed out in this video, the introduction of greatly increased positional flexibility of how modern teams play football, what do you feel is the possibility of the sport reaching the point where most, if not all, 10 outfield players are trained in such a way that they have the ability to rotate with almost anyone on the pitch?

[@gbrl433]

man city essentially play with 11 midfielders

[@Beeady]

Could see Sampadoria being a good fit for Bielsa. He likes clubs in cities with a history of leftwing culture, which Genoa has and Samp has a left wing ultra group.

[@jordanh5787]

Would prefer him at Bologna, especially with Hickey, Theate and Binks. Also Gary Medel who he managed for Chile. It is the red city after all.

[@parthpiyushprasad709]

Question: For how long can Burnley stay up in the Premier League with their seemingly primitive tactics? If Dyche was to leave next season for another team, who could replace him to keep them up?

[@dondon-ex8kb]

Question: How do finances at a football club work? What are the things all football clubs consider when generating income and accounting for losses

[@yjp4401]

Here's a question - with the death of the number 10 role in successful modern tactics and formations, what role is next on the chopping block, and what new role do you think will emerge in the next decade? Is Cancelo's inverted wing-back role perhaps an indication of where things are headed?

[@indegrrees]

Question: Is Viv Miedema in the Harry Kane phase at the moment? She seems to be enjoying the no 10 role more, dropping deeper and creating, rather than being a focal point as a traditional no 9.

[@triplethraet]

love the mixture of dry humor and personality with football content that tifo brings. awesome show

[@MaheshMenon]

Love Alex's Radio Muller t-shirt!

[@JohnMushitu]

Nice spot!

[@Redmond__]

If I were a skeleton for the day, I'd spend that day in Roman Abramovich's closet, along with all the others.

[@RML199]

Love how you combine great answers and peak humor, keep it up!

[@jumpmanblanco3048]

Tifo Football is the only way. Love from Yakima, WA

[@graffbussiere4831]

I’m a San Jose Earthquakes fan and our coach Matias Almyada and he plays essentially the same way as bielsa and Leeds we do well in streaks but we just get torn apart with how poor our players r, would love to hear anything about weather there systems r identical or not, as an American any video mls related is super exciting

[@Marinucas]

Loved the segment with Dan (again). Seems like such genuinely nice guy!

[@topogakebobone]

I learn so much from this channel.

[@benmorris118]

I want target men on the wings. Full backs are generally short, and the aerial battle could be won easily. Could result in centre backs being dragged out wider than they'd want, changing the dynamic in the box

[@liamnuge428]

The Mandzukic at Juve?

[@Bagster321]

What were the tactics of Guus Hiddink's 2006 Australia World Cup team?

[@jamesbanyard468]

It’s mad to think that Alex went on holiday to Sheffield and it affected him so badly he changed his name to John McKenzie, changed his accent, started wearing glasses and cut his hair. Yorkshire holiday do that to you

[@jordansamuels2052]

As a Tottenham fan, I wanted to understand which team has had the most finals without winning a trophy, since they last won something (that isn’t the Audi cup)

[@aza777mmm]

My question is: with Salah asking for 400k from Liverpool, which makes it almost 2x the next salary in the team, how historically were performances of the teams with huge differences in salaries vs teams with equal pay ?

[@uiscahammond3171]

Great question that could have interesting analytics , like 2 or more teams with the same overall salary but larger separation or deviation and how that effects performance

[@eliandthatsit]

I love this show! Genuinely amazing! Even the credits are phenomenal

[@davidgregory5069]

This show is the best thing on the internet.

[@PrasannaPatil42]

Tactically, is there a difference between attacking full-back (Trent Alexander-Arnold) and wing back (Reece James)? Also, is there a difference between defensive full back (Kyle Walker) and third center back (César Azpilicueta)?

[@KillusBillus]

I love that a picture of Portsmouth is used when talking about Southampton

[@stephenowen3383]

The process of editing these videos must be incredible to watch

[@ma7eus97]

This is better than most comedy shows

[@hazinator64]

Question: In recent years, it feels as though it's the same teams that get relegated from the PL, only to be promoted straight away the year after, e.g Fulham, Watford, Norwich etc. With PL broadcast revenues and parachute payments as high as they are, is this creating a de facto closed system in the PL?

[@AhmadHamizanVEVO]

this is one of the greatest shows online

[@Goofy8907]

More of this show please! Give us like 4 a year or something

[@Noldigur]

This show is actually comedic gold I didn't expect that

[@neillynch4778]

With players like Harry Kane not being able to move to a different club, and clubs being stuck paying wages for older players not performing well (ie. Rooney at Utd), should more players sign 2-3 year contracts in the future, instead of the standard 5-6 year contracts?

[@cogema97]

Could Ivan Toney play for England and how would he fit in to Southgate's system?

[@Aaron19987]

He’d fit very well, probably right between sancho and saka; on the bench.

[@NiceBlueToes]

TIFO QUESTION How much does each Premier League club spend on match day transportation costs and how does it compare to other clubs in the Championship/League One/League Two and other countries?

[@footballbrain-uniqueorgan3500]

Guys please don’t loose quality! You are the only ones out there! Rather a few vids but quality than a ton but like every f guy out there…🙏🙏🙏

[@susantkhadka5143]

This type of content is only for football nerds like us. Thank for your your content.

[@TheBurdenOfHope]

Such a great video chaps - as ever some things were learned, hilarity ensued, bees. Perfection.

[@BOABModels]

4:08 Anyone else notice that picture for the Southampton questions is of Portsmouth? You Tifo IRL rascals!

[@CrystalArrowFilms]

I think it’s fair to say that referees decisions are being psychologically affected by the current VAR procedure. Do you see a way to fix this moving forward?

[@robertsurbrook5546]

Whoever is in charge of the editing on this show/channel is hilarious. The quick cut jokes that always show a juxtaposition of enthusiasm between the broskis are always really well done. reminds me a little of the Please Don't Destroy guys at SNL. alex? im gonna go to the board. okay. im at the board.

[@LeoGuidi]

Joe, Alex and JJ, if you would be so kind, which addition/change would you make to the rules of the game ie offsides, set pieces etc

[@jadenwzhang]

watching this at 3am cuz idk what i’m doing with my life anymore

[@ethanshackleton6195]

What below top 30 ranked national team is the most exciting right now

[@harrisonearle2000]

Joe Devine. Icon.

[@piersonjamesa]

Matías Almeyda at San jose earthquakes also uses the man marking system and even MLS teams pulled it apart. It seems to be a tactic that is not effective as a whole team but what about a team that uses it regularly, i.e. are there managers who send a midfielder to mark a #10 or forward constantly to keep them from getting the ball or is that not really sensible as a standard tactic, and only a thing to do as a one off to throw a team off its game.

[@imilas14]

Wow I proper loved this. Well done guys

[@llewlloyd3832]

The editing on this video is 🤌

[@obamacare4345]

Can you do a video on Celtics new manager, ange postecoglou, he has a great story and has finally reached the promised land for Australian managers.

[@PatCullen88]

Guys I am LOVING this show. Great work!! A question from a one-eyed Australian fan - how the hell did the Socceroos go from 11 straight wins in WC qualifying to being rolled by pretty much everyone and needing to go to playoffs? Also, Harry Souttar - should one of the PL clubs buy him cheap in January? Or is he not quite ready for the jump yet?

[@jordansamuels2052]

Is it mathematically possible to fill the goal mouth with 11 men to completely block the goal?

[@TheGreenCouncil]

The best tactic I believe we are already watching, Man City, once they get a full team of “midfielders” that can pass, defend, dribble, score, who are constant being fluid and creating an overload of 6 players up front when attacking because the defenders can be ball movers without losing defensive structure and without losing the ball. On defense they all come back leaving a 6 back line as well. It’s really genius.

[@alinshrestha8581]

Question: Who would be a natural replacement for Henderson for Liverpool? People say, Bellingham, but I don't think Bellingham could do the same job as Henderson, especially in covering spaces for right-backs and playing as an impromptu RM.

[@alfreddabson957]

Superb use of Portsmouth for the intro to the Soton bit

[@macias1236]

Goalie moving to the center of the field on the graphic was hilarious

[@vishnu_2954]

Whatever tactic teams play be it 4 or 3 at the back their final in possession structure mostly resembles either 2-3-5, 3-2-5 or a 3-3-4, the flexibility of their front 5 or 4 determines the rest..out of possession is where we can identify a team's real structure..

[@DavJos82]

Question: We see many amazingly talented players have career destroying sequences of injuries (e.g. Wilshere, Ousmane Dembele, Marco v Basten back in the day). Is this a result of them playing too many games at a young age? Are there measures being taken by clubs/authorities to avoid these situations in the future?

[@10mibrahim]

A old fashioned 4-4-2 is the way forward

[@Rezmund]

With a big un and a little un upfront ala Crouch and Defoe 👍🏼😆😉⚽️

[@clipclop7641]

The 10 questions section is just a metaphor for the life of the show really

[@archieclay1777]

What changed in the Istanbul 2005 final that allowed liverpool to make that comeback? Was it tactical or just momentum, luck and of course Steven Gerrard?

[@kaboodlefish]

How can you not love this content!

[@cooper3561]

I'd play my ribcage like a marimba obviously , what a bad question

[@SamLocky1]

Question: Is there a particular reason behind Sancho’s recent improvement for United, or is it just form?

[@zsac18]

He does the same thing every season he plays. In his last 2 seasons for Borussia, the first half of the season was forgettable stuff from him, looked a bit out of shape, a bit lost and slow on the ball. He was a bit too pass happy and very timid at times. Then closer to the midpoint of the season, he had found his footing, had better chemistry with the other attackers, was braver on the ball and more confident. A lot of his goals and assist contributions came during the second half of the season with us. It would be fun to see him hold that form throughout an entire season rather than see it pop up only in the second half of the calender because if he did, he can legitamitely be a 20+ goal, 20+ assist a season type of player.

[@dondon-ex8kb]

It's definetly Ralph Rangnick's tactics and influence on the team. I believe that's the sole reason to sancho's current improvement

[@dmcc5110]

Question, why do so few teams in English leagues have green strips? There's 3 teams in the prem with a specific combo of maroon and blue but a bit weird no green as a main colour

[@nishanttalukdarmusic7224]

What Alex said, in my Arsenal save I push Tierney to almost as a LW with Brandt coming inside. I've got mukiele on RB defend role. Kimpembe , Caldara and Mukiele become a back 3.

[@felixtaylor8585]

Tifo is the IT crowd of the athletic

[@dondon-ex8kb]

Why don't Southampton look to their youth and brilliant scouting available for talent especially young talent in France and lower leagues?

[@ajw6521]

6:02 absolute quality

[@christianhatim6170]

I have a question. (what are the factors that effect how many injuries a team picks up, and is there anything a club/coach can do to reduce the risk of injuries?) for clubs like Leeds and Leicester that could be very important. Is it unavoidable, because you simply have to over exert yourself when playing against man city etc? or are there certain moves and styles of play that affect the odds of injury, and are individual players more or less likely to get injured depending on whether they are reckless, level headed, big, small etc

[@X08-Chill]

Question: If I became a skeleton for a day would I have to hatch out of my body first?