WHAT'S THIS??? MH3 Commander Precon Gameplay w/ Brian Kibler ft. Ulalek, Omo, Disa & Satya | Ep

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[@EDHijinks]

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[@ryanfarris7945]

The internet is not ready for Jim and Brian in the same pod

[@oneleghendo5239]

The CaH episodes with Jim are almost double a normal episode because they keep going off tangent and laughing

[@Agaures]

Jim upon stealing the Pyrogoyf: "Look at me. I'm the problem now." Also, Brian's laughter is so joyful, it makes me very happy.

[@isaacbuddy]

For 19:45. Despite what the name seems to indicate, Ulalek is not actually a fusion of the titans Ulamog and Kozilek, but is rather a spawn of both lineages. I think of the influence the titans have on the world surrounding them, how they spawn their brood and warp reality, to be like a lens overlaying their immediate vicinity, with Ulalek being the result of two of those lenses overlapping.

[@drewhoffmaster9597]

real

[@isaacbuddy]

Source: I divined it from my tea leaves. Naw it’s actually just from the precon insert.

[@servillo8723]

I will gladly give Jim the engagement he so desired, and argue that if we accept fingies as a plural of finger, then with sphingies as the plural sphinger should be the singular.

[@singingReaper]

It’s really funny how you get a brief look into what kind of setups Brian and Olivia have in their home, her regularly doing remote play her audio is that good podcast quality meanwhile Brian sounds like he’s playing from a 2008 fps lobby

[@MegaZer0]

he most likely is using the cam mic instead of an actual mic, if he does have one it isn't set up properly

[@pilcrowe]

11:19 I'm pretty sure Eilidth couldn’ve cast Eldrazi Confluence since both command tower and Arcane Signet can’t produce colorless Mana. Thanks for the episode, fun as always.

[@hary93ful]

Was looking for this comment to make sure I wasn’t tripping haah

[@lirangorgon]

I gotta say, watching this quartet play together is really fun. It is really clear that they are friends IRL and that their friendship is organic (bananas)

[@ThisIsACommanderChannel]

Not sure if I'm more hyped for seeing MH3 cards in action or seeing a pod with Brian and Jim.

[@dragade101]

I love how clean Olvia’s audio is and then Brian’s is almost recorded from the next room over?

[@nickb1732]

I never thought I’d be a correction commenter, but I was rooting for Olivia, so I want to help! I believe when Omo attacks you put a counter on a land and a creature. I was watching and that is actually so cool with avenger, cause then things with everything counters are also plants haha!

[@MysticTC_99]

Commander at Home AND Hijinks in the same day?!?! Happy Friday indeed 😊😊

[@bryanstrahm9961]

"It's an everything bagel in Simic" Me: "I understood that reference!"

[@nicksternyr8728]

49:28 I love it how they helped Brian win by letting him hit them for 6 but were mad when Jim hit them for 6 in the same matter 😅

[@RedCometNurse]

The in-game commentary is always absolute gas on these. I love the why you all can riff on each other so well. So good. Jim pointing the finger at Eilidh denoting her as the problem. 🥰

[@DigitalD20]

40:23 she tapped lands wrong, Neither Arcane Signet or Command Tower can make colorless mana lol.

[@mattperkinson9604]

While we’re on the topic of singular vs plural creature types, I would like to submit that, since Eldrazi is plural, the singular should be Eldrazo.

[@Halinn]

Thank you for having my favorite Serge Yager on the show, it's great to be here.

[@nycstreetpoet]

Morophon, the Boundless? More like Morophon, the Landbound, amirite? If you can’t fly, you aren’t “boundless.”

[@itakiso6932]

Dude the airport deck check is so relatable

[@colt2312]

This is missing the doppleganger of all dopplegangers the notorious kyle hill

[@Agaures]

I'm so excited to see these run! Congratulations on getting the WotC sponsor for early access of the decks!

[@Flyboy245]

Busted hip flexors aside, I enjoy hearing about the cutesy things between Magic’s power couple 😊

[@noelliswa]

Omo puts one everything bagel on one land and one creature when she ETBs and attacks. Correct?

[@joedoe7572]

Yup. Olivia completely missed the creature part

[@LookNoHands_]

I love how HD Jim's facecam is while his board is just pixels

[@harryfenzleiniii6274]

Those Commander at Home dice are soooooooooo Amazing!!!! I can not wait to get them!!

[@RabbitsRi]

Eilidh casting the confluence with only 1 colorless mana source. Magic really is one of the hardest games, I would know, I suck at it.

[@jasonmorley9217]

Doesn’t stop us from loving the content though :D

[@lichtheimer]

Something Olivia seemed to forget: Cloudpost's effect. Since the Everything Counters make the lands every type of land they also become Land-Locus and make Cloudpost tap for at least 4 each time. There's also the other Locus land which means it's 5. So she shorted herself A LOT of mana.

[@joedoe7572]

21:25 @Jim you missed the Satya attack trigger to gain 2 energy, you should have gone up to 14 energy

[@jonathonskogman8337]

Awesome you shouted out Vancouver, that was my first big magic event and I got my picture with all 3 of you 😊

[@themagicofmtg]

Awesome episode! Love seeing the Commander Horizons 3 Precons in action! The decks play very differently and seeing them all do their thing was great.

[@DarthChewdup]

olivia!! omo can do a land and a creature on the same trigger!

[@LeoCompass]

Love the channel! Able to soften the wave transition effect? It’s really distracting 😅

[@Modesty115]

Wait did they reprint Yavimaya straight into a precon!!! Dammm

[@kevinwestermann1001]

Notice how they never printed Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth in one. ): Still glad we got the green one, though!

[@enoesiw]

Well, Olivia, *i* laughed when you said "Sol Ring's done fuck all for Jim". I got the joke.

[@KidAlphaMax]

Anytime Kibler is playing green he is automatically the biggest threat hahah.

[@Xalyn937]

Its great to Kibbler on jund and see the different decks going at it! Aside, was she able to cast eldrazi confluence? Command tower and arcane signet only produce coloured mana.

[@nickolaslillogodoy3496]

I'm glad they finally put clothes on the dryad

[@maxfail2372]

I'm quite upset that they put clothes on the dryad

[@kevinwestermann1001]

Unwrapping is half the fun.

[@WayneyMTG]

Loving all the big swings, love when a game gets punchy

[@DemonaruMusic]

ENGAGEMENT 11:30 Eli couldn't cast that Eldrazi Confluence. It asked her to pay two colorless, she only had access to one. Arcane signet doesn't count colorless as a color identity for its ability. Later on at 40:20 she has the two colorless but taps wrong for it in a way that she wouldn't be able to pay for Ulalek's colorless trigger. Less agregious since she COULD play for it, but I am curious what Eli thinks the colorless mana symbol means or if she's convinced things that tap for a commander's colors include colorless.

[@JugRNot613]

How did you guys ever get Hearthstone stream Brian Kibler to try Magic?

[@edgarivan2047]

Correct me if i'm wrong but Eilidh didn't have the required colorless mana pips for that Eldrazi Confluence, right? (11:20), she did it again later when copying Drowner of hope ability with Ulalek, but she had the pips at that time so she could've just fixed the way she paid mana at that time.

[@ALTR_no_EGO]

That game was BUH-NAN-UHS.

[@TheSpikeFeeders]

Buh~nanas~

[@joedoe7572]

11:06 @Jim The copy has Fabricate inherently, but it also has the additional one from the original Cayth, so you should Fabricate 1 twice

[@TheSpikeFeeders]

Cayth only gives your nontoken creatures fabricate. So the copy has it because it's written on the original card, but the original card doesn't grant an additional instance to the copy .

[@wintersmonologue]

Wanted to make this note for people looking to make the new 5 Color Eldrazi deck (not a criticism). When Eilidh cast Eldrazi Confluence she wouldn't be able to technically since her only production of Colorless at the time was the Unclaimed Territory. Just like to let people know since you do see colorless/waste pips in the cost of the commander but the way the land+rock is worded they produce only colored sources.

[@taylorjohnson5148]

Brian and Jim is a blast

[@pleravens]

How was Eldrazi Confluence cast? It requires 2 colorless mana and 2 generic. I only see 1 colorless and 4 generic when it was cast (uncharted territory - colorless; island, swamp, command tower, arcane signet - generic)

[@thomaslee7685]

As soon as I saw that I jumped into the comments looking for someone else that noticed.

[@Renuzithatesyou]

the same with two drowner of hope it requires 2 colorless to clone.

[@kognox5516]

I wanna know the same thing

[@codychism3729]

Most likely a misplay. Thinking that commander tower and arcane signet can tap for a colorless as well. (It cannot for those that aren't sure)

[@joshuabarnett88]

Pretty sure this was a common misplay in the episode. Wasn't the drowner also copied with the signet?

[@gremlinbd]

Omg oko looks so good with his haircut!

[@iamStephanieHolmes]

Love seeing how these decks played and so differently from the @commaderathome game did. Hoping these go down a bit to nab one ❤

[@abrahamwilliams2280]

You know its wrong when the fusion dance fails into a weaker then 9000!! Also things look cool. Sorry for the goodbyes of a pupper too.

[@EDHijinks]

Apparently I (Eilidh) have no idea how colourless mana works! Well 💩

[@lightfut]

This pod was not shipped with factory specified hinges, I'll need to send it back for repair

[@tamirkushilevitz8743]

Damn.. I'd really like a sfinge. it's a Moroccan fritter that looks like a donut.

[@Zion27Kaho]

Just FYI: Ulalek’s ability needs to paid with colorless mana-you can’t pay it with anything but that

[@ignacioalmonacid6153]

Great game, very enjoyable. New commanders decks look really interesting.

[@quayo90]

How the heck am I suppose to choose between watching Hijinks or Commander at Home first?! Eldrazeli definitely the tie breaker

[@9807036]

Whoohoo new hijinks and hijinks were had!

[@willb8745]

Never heard the term “Boomer Jund” but I know how I’ll describe Yurlok from now on 😂

[@Zerefi]

I didn't know you guys were going to Commandfest! I was debating going but I didn't know. Damn. I missed out.

[@nicholasrolo886]

Great episode but the intro got me thinking....Alias, what do you actually do within the magic community besides hijinks?

[@goberthicks]

Eilidh is also a long time MTG Pro Tour Commentator, used to stream Arena (and other games,) and is also the editor of Commander at Home.

[@nicholasrolo886]

@@goberthicks I didn't know that! She's got a lot of cool titles under her belt.

[@bashlindsay7618]

I am definitely getting the Eldrazi Incursion Precon. It would be my first Five Color and Eldrazi deck. It would be awesome.

[@obicortes8199]

Olivia let me guess you were excited about Nadu for Ivy? Because I know I was and Lion Umbra too.

[@BriggsMullen]

I know that the deck is built around lands, and that it would be an unnecessary clutter of the board state, and that it's optional, but I just want to see someone put an everything counter on a creature when they attack with Omo.

[@vgpatman9728]

U can only sac eldrazi scions with Drowner of Hopes Ability

[@devintrivett4918]

52:15 time-stamped

[@hellehundt1]

Watch for those colorless mana diamonds! At least one mistake on that here.

[@GrinningFeline]

Jim’s room is so well treated!

[@GrinningFeline]

His mic sounds so crispy!

[@joejordan401]

PSA: colorless isn't a color, arcane signet, command tower and friends CANNOT make colorless mana. AliasV used them as if they could multiple times, although I think it only actually mattered for the confluence.

[@Silvermankitty]

I love spike hijinks at home! such a great show!

[@PirateNori]

Eilidh with Eldrazi is a dream come true

[@DemonaruMusic]

ENGAGEMENT LOVE Y'ALL It does amuse me that usually the idea is to show off these decks. And in both Hijinks and Commander At Home, literally no one recognizes they can and should be putting everything counters on a land AND a creature. You get to do both! It doesn't have to be one or other! Make everything changeling AND tap your cloudpost for 20 mana!

[@michaelescamilla3543]

You missed a bunch of opportunities to put an everything counter on both a land AND a creature

[@famousstranger8468]

Serge and kyle in the same pod? Wow, i've seen it all

[@Nslygh1213]

There was so much nonsense… I love it. ❤

[@Flyboy245]

I feel like “I’m just goyfing over here” should be on a shirt or something

[@Parkesview]

Shenanigans ensue. Its great fun

[@AielWolf]

Reminder: Ulalek's trigger requires 2 Colorless pips. Command Tower and Arcane Signet can't create Colorless mana. I believe you still had the appropriate lands to create the necessary mana, just wasn't tapped in the proper order.

[@devintrivett4918]

40:24 came here to say this, time-stamped for reference

[@alyindar]

Vindication for Jim!

[@Mast3rShan31]

Question: Why is the everything counter only played on the land? Can't is also be played on a creature as well? Why would you not want to do this? Also, if you play an everything counter on a token creature with multiple copies, do all of them get the counter or just one of them?

[@cobaltbeau]

Which episode of SUAP was the thing they were talking about with Prof where he said the cactus was 5? Or at least the guests

[@madmax258285]

It's commander at home and it's the episode with Josh and prof

[@erniehavermale6140]

Can someone with talent and knowledge of Liliana's lore please create the Lily's in the bin cover??? 57:44

[@noahjones7150]

Can you use command tower and arcane signet to tap for Ulaleks trigger?

[@replacement6386]

Where can i get those awesome big blue commander at home dice???

[@storm-nrg]

Uhh... Sorry Jimothy, they are Sphingi. *pushes glasses up* (This is sarcasm)

[@kilrasha77]

They sound like organic Funananas!

[@kakkaohjus]

"put an everything counter on each of up to one target land and up to one target creature." Doesn't this mean that Omo makes two counters, one to a creature and one to a land? Since it's AND.

[@katelynnvens1974]

It does :) though the deck doesn’t benefit much from putting it on creatures, I’ve noticed many don’t bother doing it because of that 😅

[@MegaNerfHerder1]

Anyone who plays Eldrazi are the threat, no matter what.

[@Demotros]

There should be a quack count in the corner.

[@MrBenqiu]

Where can i get that 20 sided D60 spindown Olivia uses sometimes

[@DatadasPrime]

So I play theft a lot. In the rules compendium, under "Multiplayer Rules," it states: "When a player leaves the game, all objects owned by that player leave the game and any effects which give that player control of any objects or players end..." (Notably, the effect which gave Jim control of the Pyrogoyf had already resolved and was no longer active). "...Then, if there are any objects still controlled by that player, those objects are exiled." The Pyrogoyf would be exiled. It wouldn't go back to Brian.

[@TheSpikeFeeders]

Confiscation Coup creates an indefinite continuous control changing effect (CR 611.1). That's the effect that ends when I lose the game. This is covered in the Act of Treason example in 800.4a, which you quoted.

[@DatadasPrime]

@@TheSpikeFeeders If that is the case, then what possible situation could allow for "any objects still controlled by that player?" It was my understanding that continuous effects on the board (such as an enchantment, or a Sower of Temptation, or a Mind Flayer, etc.) ended, but effects which had already resolved caused exile in this scenario. Edit. Looking at the examples you mentioned, "Act of Treason" is only in effect for one turn. This scenario is more closely related to the Bribery example listed in that ruling.

[@TheSpikeFeeders]

@@DatadasPrime That bit refers to the Bribery example in 800.4a, and the distinction comes from which player originally moved the object to the zone it's currently in. In the scenario in this game, Brian put the Pyrogoyf onto the battlefield, so he becomes its default controller (110.2). I then cast Confiscation Coup, creating a continuous effect that changes its controller to me. When I die, that control changing effect ends and the game sees that Brian is the default controller and he regains control of it. If I had cast Bribery (or Reanimate, Gather Specimens, Animate Dead, etc.) targeting Brian and put Pyrogoyf onto the battlefield under my control, I am the default controller and when I die it gets exiled.

[@DatadasPrime]

@@TheSpikeFeeders I see. Thank you for the clarification.

[@arjunheart5859]

"Oh, wait. This isn't Game Knights."😜

[@danpasquale1620]

i thought when a player died all permanents they control including stolen ones exile. So how does Brian get the pyrogoof back?

[@TheSpikeFeeders]

Before things get exiled, control changing effects end. If another player controlled a permanent affected by a control changing effect, that player regains control of the permanent, and it's not exiled along with the dying player's stuff.

[@zacharycarraway6427]

Doesn't she miss use the "Eldrazi Confluence" ?

[@xlifeiswarx]

Algebra 2? I never made it past pre-algebra

[@lunagreene5486]

This game is so Unsphinged

[@DragonSlayer772]

Any time a pyrogoyf comes out, the disa player is immediately the problem. They should have made a deal with jim to not use pyrogoyf triggers instead of killing him so that kibler wouldnt get it back.

[@FERALTREEFOLK]

Captain Planet!!!! ❤

[@MrRomanrin]

remember when a 5/5 was 5 mana ??? and nothing more? Now a 3 mana does 10 things lol

[@Michael-s9b1q]

Spikejinks at home!

[@JoshRudis]

Kibler not using foil goyfs from future sight seems like a flavor fail.

[@Modesty115]

I'm not sure what episode came out first but brian and olivia swapped decks!!