UPGRADED Modern Horizons Commander Precon Gameplay | Disa VS Satya VS Ulalek VS Omo

[@DrivingCr00ner]

Just saying, if Aaron were ever inclined to produce a “deck building” content series, I’d pay cash dollars for it. And be super psyched about it. Amazing deck builder!

[@starmanda88]

I hate to say this because I love them all but Aaron really is GOAT status

[@broodstar8872]

as someone local to them, when you see Big Aaron at an LGS you can shoot the shit with him pretty much all the time

[@woopertrainer]

I love all his builds

[@empresszelda93]

For real, it would be really cool to maybe have a patreon level where Alex can fine tune Patron decks, and if he had time/energy, to do deck videos (maybe as shorts!) that aren't Patron limited

[@downinfrontpodcast5357]

My $$$ will support this video series

[@groknartheterror]

I think that pregame joke may have been lowkey one of the best openings ever

[@JGreen42]

It was peak

[@jacobcrabtree1857]

Stealing that joke for every game of commander I play from now on

[@Kestral287]

Since this somehow hasn't been a comment yet, for the discussion at the end: both Atraxa and the Goyfs have the card types listed solely as reminder text. You'd use whatever the most up to date list of card types is, so Atraxa does see kindreds and Goyfs do see battles.

[@isaacbaker8784]

This is gonna sound corny but I love the chemistry you all have in these videos. I really enjoy the interaction you all have and it brings a genuine smile to my face. Literally my favorite KZbin channel

[@Radiodad]

No you are 100% correct, they all have a rapport that just makes you feel there and part of the fun!

[@alexanderullman5353]

Alex's joke before the game begins was just... :chef's kiss:

[@burningpapersun1]

Pyrogoyf was the mvp with that graveyard spell.

[@DiabloTommaso]

True! Every edh show i saw show showed how good that card is

[@HeraldsHorn]

Thank you so much for the shoutout! :)

[@WafflesSamoyed]

Heralds Horn mentioned! Woooo!

[@aeorling]

The table talk is just lovely. :)

[@herrvonhagen4139]

stumbled over this channel a few days ago, been watching a lot since. cool content guys

[@BiGGyCLD]

i LOVE the out and in aspect of cards you guys remove and add and then show the actual cards. that was cool

[@TheMeatsiah]

11:50 Question, is there a pre made printable “everything” counter like this that can be found somewhere?

[@uselesscommon7761]

you can find it everywhere

[@TheMeatsiah]

@@uselesscommon7761thanks, that’s super helpful!

[@Wulfarwacht]

I love how Reddit ripped the Graveyard deck a new one, yet it constantly delivers and upgraded it absolutely shreds.

[@broodwarjc1517]

No one played removal and the best new creature from the deck Pyrogoyf got down early and stuck around way longer than it should have. The goyf side of the deck might not be as bad as some think, but overall I think Coram's graveyard plan is better than Disa's.

[@plasticmotif43]

I literally said in two posts that it is the strongest precon. People are just mad that it didn't include a few other tarmagoyfs. It definitely looks like it was started as Coram as the face commander though. Either commander at the precon helm is very strong.

[@lionlanger1804]

I love disa everyone seems to focus on the first Paragraph but her second one is really good and her first Paragraph is basically a you win Button with buried alive as you Assembler a pyrogoyf/polygoyf/anger pile and go to town

[@natebeal18]

​@@plasticmotif43 It's not even remotely close to the strongest. Upgraded it's playable but the Simic Lands deck out of the box is absolutely broken.

[@RussellJonesZBT]

Some really great decisions in deck building, there are some cool directions to take these. Great job, Aaron and team!

[@SadDogofShimano]

I've discovered this channel recently, the content is amazing!!And Aaron should do guides about deckbuilding, he' so good at it.

[@niklasbolz4267]

Pyrogoyf doing work. Holy shizzle that thing is like a tribal Terror of the Peaks. Great episode as usual btw. Keep up the good work.

[@Strawb_milk5]

Boo alex (the editor told me to do this)

[@jacobtrahan1993]

Solid as a rock never gets old! Thanks for the great vids as always

[@hellNo116]

This and I can't stress this enough was a precon game holy macaroni batman. This is not our grandpa's precon decks

[@jfoley3484]

Upgraded precon, important distinction.

[@BriggsMullen]

Haven't started the gameplay yet, but I'm excited to see the upgrades for tricky terrain care about creature types. Every gameplay video I've seen of that deck, people don't even put the Everything counters on any creatures

[@Sleeqb7]

I'd love to see a rematch of these upgraded decks because OH BOY TARMOGOYFS RAN AWAY WITH IT

[@NoPodcastsHere]

Aha! 26:43 We caught Alex red handed doing an Attenburg-esque voiceover, proving that he knows full well of the captivating effects of his impossibly smooth voice...

[@WayneyMTG]

Great job on the upgrades, im being convinced even more to pick up one of these precons, or just all of them

[@michaeltermine5015]

its weird, because a lot of the cards in the everything deck care about a variety of lands (lotuspost and the gatemaster) but not a variety of creatures. glad to see aaron resolved that issue

[@Mast3rShan31]

It is called, "Tricky Terrain". 8)

[@NEALMateo]

Damn...Jund-Goyf was reaminating and swinging. Nice!

[@DPreirinha]

As always, loved the content. Just an FYI, the side camara is doing a weird zoom, last video was like this as well. Hopefully you guys already noticed that and that it's not me xD. Keep it up. Thanks

[@JustinNovack]

Yeah.. agreed. I think the zoom may be a bit over-aggressively used. A highlight zoom here and there sure.

[@gabemango]

I feel like a lecture from Alex or Jim would give me the push to change my life

[@joedoe7572]

Battles and Kindred both count for both Lhurgoyfs and Atraxa

[@disposableheero]

Minor interesting item. Alex triggerd ulalek with an Eldrazi paid for by Path of Ancestry, which I believe will result in the delayed scry trigger from spending the path mana on an appropriately typed creature to be copied along with the eldrazi displacer resulting in two scry 1s instead of just one.

[@Kestral287]

Depends on how he orders the stack, but you probably should order that way for it. The way he did it was wrong, but wrong in the sense of being suboptimal rather than being illegal. And I believe he left on top anyway, so it was immaterial.

[@Harbord]

Loved this video btw! I know it’s a few months old now but we never got an upgraded fallout precon video. Would love to see either a custom fallout game with different new commanders or an upgraded precon video if that’s ever on the cards please?👀

[@KidAlphaMax]

This makes me want Graveyard Overdrive so much!

[@SwagMaster824]

Deck looks insane

[@adambowen4965]

That just went south so fast for everyone else out of self mill.

[@CharlesDeuschle]

Incarnation Technique is my MVP in Meren. Glad to see it getting it's due in this game.

[@fugitiveweaboo1625]

is it me or at 11:05 alex played the comander without thinking of the cost reduction of herlads horn?

[@alexmcgregor8658]

Heralds horn only reduces generic costs, and Ulalek doesn't have any generic pips.

[@fugitiveweaboo1625]

@@alexmcgregor8658 Kay thank you

[@AndreaGiuseppeCastriotta]

Sorry for the question, but why adding Conspiracy and not Ashes of the Fallen to the Jund deck? Technically for Disa effect they work exactly the same, but AotF costs 2 generic compared to the to 5 with BB of Conspiracy I guess for Pyrogoyf Conspiracy is better?

[@Kestral287]

The Altar too; giving your team trample is nice if you haven't already gotten super wide.

[@xhaerterlevich]

At my lgs, the owner was all like "why is nobody preordering the graveyard deck? Just wait you'll see that deck will be effing awesome" and now I saw it! Thanks! As soon as I see it (hopefully), i'll pick it up!

[@SkyFallenNerolin]

16:00 this deck also need an Battle so its 1+ more for the Lhurgoyf its so sad that only in march of the machines came battle. i want more. they are great and funny. give the enemy something they need to defent or i get something great or Big. like invasion of Gobakhan and New Capenna really great Invasions/Battles :D

[@tatezierke7478]

Does Ulalek copy the scry off of Part of Ancestry when copied? Because the land is also colorless if I remember Ulalek’s text box right.

[@taylorjohnson5148]

All I know is… I must see coram again!

[@Pyrophyte5]

8:57 How did Bill cast his commander? Shouldn't Cloudpost tap for 0?

[@mindforz]

Cloudpost is a Locus, it counts itself

[@Pyrophyte5]

@@mindforz Missed that, thanks!

[@Nilmur2]

I find it interesting that Jim refered to Satya as similar to Riku of Two Reflections but personally for me, I think Ulalek is a turbo Riku. I also believe that an everything counter on a land would only allow the land to tap for choice from WUBRG and not colourless, didn't impact the game but good to note.

[@ElDocBruh]

lol First Aaron threatens to burn Jan's house down, now he's gonna kill Bill's entire family. This man is a menace!

[@Lyr00]

4:01 for some reason i hear something different from "gamegenic bastions" xD

[@D.K.M.Espers]

I am 1000% getting that Jund precon. Wow.

[@EternalRoxas]

That was such a great game, thanks guys as always

[@BlackWaltzWaifu]

As always, fun times and good banter

[@Archelepago]

Only tuned into the MH3 games so far, I've enjoyed the gameplay. Loved seeing the upgrades with this, even a few budget choices that I had completely overlooked when prebuilding my own lists. Would love to see what the upgrades to the decks look like without the budgets while keeping the face commanders.

[@abrahamwilliams2280]

Does battle for icoria help that jund deck at all? Otherwise its a scary commander, if you get everything is a lycrophanthied goif. Good quicky though.

[@vincentmccue7481]

I have never wanted someone to be able to cast Reins of Power more than the end of this episode.

[@connorl0204]

Getting stuck on three mana tends to happen when youre told to mill 10 cards and 8 of them are mana producing…

[@heirophantpm]

if Aaron reads these comments, I'd love to know your stance on how many board wipes to run in a given casual deck. this game is a prime example of a single boardwipe being able to completely change the pace/explosiveness of play. I'm guessing cards like Cyclonic Rift are "too expensive" but there's no reason something like Whelming Wave (I think that's the name?) couldn't be run... otherwise you run into this situation where the decks that can quickly explode onto the battlefield outpace everyone else and there's no rubber-band style effect.

[@mtgaaron]

I run a couple in any given deck but I typically don't include them in precon upgrades (I also generally add more on theme ones when possible). That being said, Whelming Wave would be great addition that's also very thematic.

[@furak]

Pyrogoyf was an absolute powerhouse in every game i've watched with these decks, without it on the BF the deck is way less threatning.

[@jacuzzi_jake]

I love the new layout.

[@Theorak]

Turns out, free reanimate and tokens is still the hottest thing :D Realized with the Fallout Engergy deck as well, needs more board wipes in those colors to stand against creature spam.

[@CodenameJD]

Every game with these decks serves to prove my hypothesis: the Goyf deck might have the lowest reprint value, but it's easily the most fun deck.

[@charlied8284]

Definitely need a deck building series

[@daanverschaeren7197]

Satya’s effect reminds me more of Rionya. Copying creatures seems like a shared strategy.

[@rpkgaming4287]

Not gonna lie, when Aaron was moving the dice around I thought I saw Master Roshi on the dice

[@Harbord]

Every time I hear the commanders name “Disa” I’m always just waiting for some to say “Disa Nutz - HA! Gott Emmm”

[@TheSpikeFeeders]

Patreon needs to be a bit higher before we can afford to get Jar Jar in the studio

[@Harbord]

@@TheSpikeFeeders Nice😂😂 now that’s one I didn’t see coming!

[@MrSaucesome]

Ashes of the fallen would be a pretty good upgrade to the goyf deck as a 3rd maskwood nexus effect.

[@DJ_Khaalis]

I think the graphic showing what cards got removed from Tricky Terrain was wrong. The decklist shows that an Island was removed, not a Forest.

[@DJ_Khaalis]

Well either that or the decklist was wrong and it was meant to remove a Forest instead of an Island.

[@gavinlee9999]

I want the eldrazi deck but it’s depressing that the deck isn’t available at a reasonable price anywhere :(

[@WolfdaLegion]

Aaron is a damn good deck builder.

[@gnomersy1087]

Looking at the cards in and out and how skewed this game ended up I really question trimming board wipes in decks that were already running probably too few of them to begin with given that their strategies were either slow, creature light/not creature focused, or grindy.

[@Aldrnari956]

3:12 boo! Boo that man!

[@tbmagoo]

Shoutout PC blue menu sparkling water

[@andyspotshop]

Was good he didn't play around the TecEdge. The land says if "an opponent" has >=4, so it was already live from Aaron even through Bill only had 3 lands. What a weird way to phrase the ability, wotc

[@vincegod1996]

If I'm correct @16:50 or so Aaron's commander only produce one tarmogoyf token (since its written one or more creature deals combat damage) which means also only one pyrogoyf trigger.

[@TheSpikeFeeders]

Disa's second ability would need to read "One or more players" instead of "A player" to work the way you suggest. This maxes it at one per struck player, no matter how many creatures hit, rather than just one per combat step.

[@veganpork7601]

It's like professional face breaker, which creates a token for each PLAYER that was dealt combat damage, so they did play it correctly

[@chazzer5968]

Aaron.... what the heck was that turn?

[@rinconbigas]

Someone please clarify how he was able to cast Incantation Technique so many times?

[@TheSpikeFeeders]

Demonstrate allows him to gift a copy of the spell to someone else to make an additional copy for himself, and on the second resolution he reanimated an Eternal Witness, which returned the original card to his hand when it entered.

[@kstandish42]

I can tell Bill and I are the same age because my first reaction reading Rampant Frogantua was also I LOST THE GAME

[@pelitheinsane]

That blew up quickly!

[@stevenboland9271]

@11:10 Alex missed an opal palace trigger 😭

[@TheSpikeFeeders]

We were fairly sure that Herald's Horn wouldn't Reduce Ulalek, and I would have needed another mana to use Palace's second mode. -Alex

[@DDDHunter]

@@TheSpikeFeeders it does according to reaper king's ruling on gatherer If an effect reduces the cost to cast a spell by an amount of generic mana, it applies to a monocolored hybrid spell only if you've chosen a method of paying for it that includes generic mana.

[@hanfjord]

"Gamegenic bless us, every one" - Bill 🎁

[@allanturmaine5496]

Let's go, Bill!

[@allanturmaine5496]

My hopes and dreams! Dashed!

[@matthewstewart2298]

Jim milling 10 and hitting 0 was amazing

[@chriswhitright9097]

Alex I laughed and I hate myself a little bit.

[@EkkosUwU]

I believe the Disa trigger at 17:04 was handled wrong, it whenever one or more deal combat damage create a token, not sure what i missed but i dont think 3 shouldve been created lol.

[@RochRochie-zf2lc]

He did it properly, one or more triggers apply once for each player

[@henriklundporsgaard4393]

I know it probably won't happen, but it would be fun to see more games with these exact decks. It seems some luck/misfortune was involved in this one...

[@combosarefun4449]

Its quite the card. Pyrogoyf has been the MVP of the game everytime I've seen it.

[@ajaydassani9931]

Aaron is goat at deckbuilding

[@cas126]

The jund popped off. Should get another couple games to see the other decks interact more.

[@waynetriba3281]

I didnt expect to lose the game. I was on a streak lol

[@beanslinger6]

Best intro 😂

[@BloodMoonGo]

16:55 Aaron should have only made 1 token. Making Extra 5/6s really changed the course of the game :/

[@TheSpikeFeeders]

The trigger was resolved correctly. It creates a token whenever one or more creatures hits a player, which happened 3 times in that combat. To behave the way you are describing, the card text would have to read "whenever one or more creatures deals combat damage to one or more players".

[@zcecron22]

Omo doesnt need an everything counter sice the is arleady a shapeshifter

[@TheSpikeFeeders]

Shapeshifter doesn't grant every creature type, however some shapeshifters do have Changeling, which gives them every creature type.

[@ModAnonMTG]

if you guys dont get the sparkling water sponsorship after this they are messing up

[@Jjdude101]

Christ. Aaron was playing a totally different game lol

[@BlackLotusGaming89]

Me before watching the video wondering why it’s so short: Me after 👁️ 👄 👁️ Oh yeahhhhh…

[@qut0n]

Boo(-la-la) Alex. I was told to do this.

[@Shenmue728]

That goyf deck got wide fast.

[@alexmcgregor8658]

Like this comment for French Eldrazi

[@mgrazzmataz]

Incantation Technique only cares about cards in graveyard not just cards milled through it, So jim could of returned the whale if I am not mistaken not sure if it would off mattered .? 21:40 I guess he f8gured it out... also just realized whale was exiled , Sidenote ... nobody had removal for the Pyrogoyf ... this is th3 third game I have seen where that thing completely dominates the field with Disa😂

[@davidmink370]

smh y'all removed a goblin

[@diskuslars7527]

I also play Tricky Terrain and in 20 games i never draw that bad as Bill does ^^

[@ViciousVic595]

Wow! A I lost The Game reference in 2024! That takes me back! God damnit I just lost The Game!

[@Bleuchz]

Pyrogoyf is unreal

[@stefanstewart9079]

Pyrogoyf appearing in the first 4 turns in almost every video with these decks seems sus.

[@aofie5151]

The term gas leak gets thrown around a lot, but I think even the decks had a little too much carbon monoxide this episode

[@shaysheffi4268]

At 16:55 Aaron actually doesn't make 3 tokens. The commander says "whenever one OR more creatures deal combat damage..." Meaning he would only create a single Goyf Token off the commander.

[@TheSpikeFeeders]

It says "Whenever one or more creatures deal combat damage to a player...", and Aaron did that once per player. To behave as you're describing, it would have to be templated to say "Whenever one or more creatures deal damage to one or more players..."

[@taylorjohnson5148]

Amazing joke, alex