What's With The Nostalgia, Rick Beato?

[@mjlj]

When you turned on a pop radio station in the 60's and 70s and 80s, you didn't hear any music from the 30's through the 50s. Now when you turn the radio on, lots of songs are from 50 years ago. That says a lot. And as for the poor, tinny quality of listening to music in the 60s, that just highlights how good the songs were despite the quality of the sound.

[@MaxoticsTV]

And Cole Porter, Irving Berlin, Gershwin fading even further

[@Some1.2ear]

My old record player from the 70s and records from same era and before sound absolutely amazing. Twice as good as digital.

[@MaxoticsTV]

Yes, I didn't make the distinction clear enough. Certainly, we had good music playing devices, but I believe it was new tech in 1980s which gave new life to those musicians in the 1960s and 1970s which made them seem better. Not that they weren't good enough for me ;)

[@martinpaddle]

It's amazing how many people comment on Rick Beato's content based on only a few short snippets (or maybe based on only the clickbaity titles) of his videos. Rick follows, and features, many new artists.

[@MaxoticsTV]

Yes he does!!! I'm a fan!

[@jrileycain6220]

A very insightful commentary. I was just part of a Burt Bacharach music tribute. Many of his recording sessions are well documented on film. The cost to record a 3 minute song was phenomenal; full orchestras, back-up singers, rhythm section , 2 or 3 guitarists, (maybe 40 musicians or so in all ) plus the time to write the arrangement, pay the copyist, pay for rehearsals and recording session at union scale. Add the studio rental cost, engineers, other studio personal. All this so Dione Warwick could sing a tune. One little song could cost easily $10,000. to record. How the record company marketed this to make a buck is a whole other topic.

[@MaxoticsTV]

Thanks for that story! When I took photos back then I thought long and hard, is this worth 1 of 24 or 36! Soon no one will be left who remembers those days when a producer's ass didn't clench up when someone said, "let's do another take" ;)

[@jrileycain916]

@@MaxoticsTV The session to record "Alfie" with Cilla Black at Abbey Road Studios had Bacharach himself conducting/playing piano (did the orchestration too). Huge full orchestra. George Martin was the producer. Bacharach made Cilla do close to 40 takes. Finally George Martin piped up to Bacharach and asked, "What exactly are you looking for?" Bacharach said, "Magic." To which Martin replied, "I think we got that on take 4."

[@jrileycain916]

The session to record "Alfie" with Cilla Black at Abbey Road Studios had Bacharach himself conducting/playing piano (did the orchestration too). Huge full orchestra. George Martin was the producer. Bacharach made Cilla do close to 40 takes. Finally George Martin piped up to Bacharach and asked, "What exactly are you looking for?" Bacharach said, "Magic." To which Martin replied, "I think we got that on take 4."

[@MaxoticsTV]

HAHA. Good one. For me it is the first take. I only go down from there ;)

[@anthonygondola3086]

Sorry, I just don't agree. Music today is just sad and everyone is auto-tuned and live performance means miming to a pre-recorded track.

[@MaxoticsTV]

On the aspect, I don't get it either!!!

[@karmaandkerosene_music]

I think we've hit the wall musically. Electric guitar and bass drove much of the innovation in music since the 1950s since theywere novel and unexplored. Everything has now been done on guitar that's possible to do. We've reached the end of it's potential. Everything coming out now is completely derivative. I don't know where the next big thing is going to come from. Computerized instruments are just variations on a theme. Even AI is just using old music to make "new" music. It's not innovating anything. More music is released now than ever before - and none of it's groundbreaking. Ghost was the most original thing to hit in the last 20 years and it was a rip-off of church music.

[@MaxoticsTV]

Yes, I think this is true for all the arts. Don Quixote is still considered one of the best novels ever written. I'm a film buff. The movies of the 30s and 40s are peerless IMO.

[@sgood83]

your arguments are spurious and sloppy

[@MaxoticsTV]

Like in music, some mind it some don't.

[@CapAnson12345]

I don't remember my radio, or record player sounding that bad. It might not have been as crystal clear as an Mp3 and a couple of pops and crackles on the vinyl putting the needle on but there's really not much difference. Get a good turntable and speakers with an early pressing and I maintain vinyl sound BETTER than digital. Yeah I'm one of those guys. What has changed are the production standards and equipment. A lot of 70s and especially 60s "garage" rock sounds muddled and like you're listening through a wall - it's not good - but none of that has to do with the quality of the music itself, which I think is demonstrably and clearly better than music being pushed today. Not played mind you.. I mean pushed by the industry and what you hear on tv and the internet. There's still good bands and creative people playing rock. They just are ignored now for the most part.

[@realdemons3273]

Got through one minute of this, then click, bye.

[@MaxoticsTV]

I can read KZbin statistics. Thanks for the footnote though! :)

[@TheLeon1032]

what a child, bye

[@realdemons3273]

@@TheLeon1032 Maybe take Beato's ear training course. 🤣🤣🤣

[@TheLeon1032]

@@realdemons3273 good luck in life

[@ErnieSanchez-i7p]

That’s one way to grab some views; attach Rick Beato’s name to it. He’s a professional’s professional my dude. His presentation, execution and product is simply superior to most of his peers. Not to mention, HE ACTUALLY IS A accomplished music producer. Too many people creating videos they have no business making. Like yours for instance.

[@MaxoticsTV]

These kind of comments really crack me up. What about musicians who cover songs? Or do cover bands? Are they suppose to do that? Shouldn't everyone ONLY play their own music? I NEVER claimed to be a professional KZbinr or a producer. I do this as a hobby. I'm clearly using his name to get views. I DO know something about writing/getting read/seen, etc. He CLEARLY used everyone's using Macs to do a video he knew would get views--complaining about all the cables. I didn't hold it against him! Quite the contrary, I wanted to hear another view. Same here, if you want to hear another view about Rick's stuff, I have one. If you have the emotions to leave this kind of comment you have the emotions to make KZbin videos. So create, don't hate ;)

[@gregorysharp]

Hi. Not sure what’s going on. I wasn’t able to understand exactly what Rick did wrong. I have not seen every video that Rick is done and I seen one of your videos before. What would you like Rick to do differently? Does that mean clear. You did say stop with the nostalgia. That immediately put me off Not sure what your proposition is for those of us who are enjoying our music It didn’t take me too much effort to have a high quality turntable and stereo in the mid 70s. It took me a few paydays, but I got it working at a gas station. I’d say this is a good first video. But you tried to cover what I believe are too many aspects of your complaint. People‘s ability to afford high-end Studios People’s ability to afford playback equipment People’s desire to perform Consumption of music Anyway, I gotta go I got some Dean Martin records to play

[@MaxoticsTV]

Wasn't a complaint! I'm a fan of Rick's channel. This is just a video I wanted to do quickly, to keep the channel alive. I've been working on a long video about mic preamps and of course more stuff on 32-bit float. All your criticisms are good. I wish I had the time to do better. Thanks for comment!

[@David-c5i4o]

@@MaxoticsTV One thing Rick has over you is delivery and presence. Yours is monotone and frankly put me to sleep, sorry just constructive criticism. Your title is suggestive you don't like Rick's take on Nostalgia imo but also I can't recall the video you reference of Rick's. As for the technology, in the past we had the best analogue technology that was available for the price, now we have the technology but due to the gouging of streaming technology, Spotify have sucked in a generation with MP3 shyte and TIDAL with full digital resolution is the expensive stereo neighbour. Nostalgia is like Rick's comments, creativity that George Martin was an expert at Montserrat.

[@MaxoticsTV]

@@David-c5i4o Yes, I don't even want to watch me! My title is part clickbait. I think what you wrote is interesting, but isn't what I talked about in the video. I'm sorry it's boring but I do have some observations ;)

[@waynedavis724]

Rick Beato's channel is dedicated to entertaining angry old Boomers who used to walk to school in snow five miles each way up hill. He's making a good living off of it, so it's obviously working.

[@MaxoticsTV]

That's why I love him! ;) I totally relate to his attitude. Not bragging, my kids are often not amused !

[@Guitarplayer724]

This is basically, put Rick Beatos name in my Title so I can get clicks. 🙄

[@MaxoticsTV]

Yes, but I do have something to say. KZbin is also a place for conversations. Rick talks about other channels and Instagram accounts too.

[@frednerk8366]

Total nonsense. It was possible to get decent sound without spending a fortune. For example, a Garrard deck, Rotel amp amd a pair of cheap Wharfedale speakers for a total of about £250 gave a very listenable playback.

[@MaxoticsTV]

Yes, I flubbed that. I didn't make a clear enough distinction between portable playing devices and that stuff.

[@joshuahayward1525]

Dude, you just have no argument here. The points you are making do not connect. Basically, everything you are saying is crap!!! Rick Beato actually loves music and is passionate; he brings value to our experience of music. You are ignorant wannabe troll!!!

[@suljaard]

Maybe your listening technology was horrible but mine wasn't, even though it was an inexpensive Hitachi boombox. I think if you don't enjoy music you just don't. You probably wouldn't enjoy it even on an excellent listening technology anyway.

[@MaxoticsTV]

I was into it then. MacIntosh pre-amp, Polk speakers, etc ;) I screwed up not making that clear in this video. I was talking more about how cheap electronics changed music distribution.

[@Reliable_Session]

great video. nice to hear from a creator who can zoom out and look at the bigger picture. something that a lot of people struggle to do

[@MaxoticsTV]

Thanks for the kind words! I'm stuck between a rock and hard place. Hatred for this type of video or complete disinterest in the technical stuff ;)

[@nicko6710]

Good one the whole yacht rock rant was just privilege

[@DAD-kz2di]

Rick is right on!

[@MaxoticsTV]

Agree. I'm just having my fun!

[@GuitarDaddio]

As the musicians, recordings, and distribution got democratized, the songwriting and production has gotten homogenized. The dynamics are all loud. The chords are all diatonic. The rhythms are all quantized. The vocal harmonized are all gone. The lead vocals are all pitch corrected. The lyrics are all vulgar. The poetry is explicit. Dada has come to music. Why it is popular is obvious and not good, true, or beautiful.

[@MaxoticsTV]

That's the stuff that fascinates me to no end!!! Too many rules and structure leads to bad music but so does 100% freedom. Looks like we're the same generation. What pisses me the hell off is I wanted to fight the "establishment" and here I am saying we need it back ;)

[@GuitarDaddio]

@@MaxoticsTV When there is order, people seek chaos in their art; when there is chaos, people seek order in their art. People are comfortable hearing conformity in their music; artists are comfortable feeding the hungry people. The irony is that the rage against the machine is a self-loathing rage against their own power. I could be wrong. There is a lot of hate and power to go around, and I could be as blind as the next person in seeing all of it, but at least I see some of it everywhere which seems to be more than most can see.

[@birdworldist]

Rick The Otto

[@dyad9592]

Nonsense video.

[@billdollar7011]

Every generation creates its own music and takes that music with it as it grows older. When that generation dies, so does their music.

[@McSlobo]

Not really true as generations care different amounts about music. Like, the current generation does not care a lot about music, they've more into social media and gaming, and music is on the background. They don't link music to their personality like people did from 70s to 90s, maybe early 00s too. And there wasn't really a lot of music before 40s beyond some clubs in big cities - well there was church music, folk songs and so on, and I don't think people paid too much attention to it. So, music had its 50 years from 50s to the 00s, now it's more or less reduced to muzak again. Oh, there was also youth culture from 50s to 00s, now it's more dispersed.

[@MaxoticsTV]

@@McSlobo Yes, that was part of my point. THANKS!!!! For my kids, I think visual art was more like music to them.

[@keithpetrasek9605]

I think both of these opinions fall far too close to “blanket statements”. Music of various forms is deeply connected to the human psyche. To say that one generation “cares” more about music is a bit of an eye brow raiser. Before the 1930’s music wasn’t as available to us at anytime or anywhere, but that doesn’t mean that it wasn’t given attention. It just wasn’t part of the everyday routine or life of an average human. The way we as a species interact and interpret music starts from birth! The rhythm and feeling that we get from music made 500+ years ago vs today is at its core a shared human experience. Obviously everyone grows to like different music styles and sounds, but to say that one generation doesn’t care a lot vs another is crazy to me. The way that music is consumed now vs another generation is vastly different, but the audio quality or listening device doesn’t really matter I think. We are now in an age where social media is a direct feed of art, and art in many different forms. Visual, audio, video, etc. Whatever one considers “good” or “bad” art is up to them, but what I’m saying is that we know the method of consumption has changed, but that’s not inherently “bad”. I think that lots of young people are now as connected, if not more connected as the previous generation to their music. The admiration is shown in a different way now, it’s no longer vinyl records on the floor, a glove box full of cassettes or posters plastered on their wall. It’s more digital, it’s following these artists and connecting with online fan pages and general social media discourse. There’s also tons of people 20 and below who have connected with music from the past and the fact that all that music is now so accessible has only made this generation more connected to the past than ever before (at least through music). I don’t think the music “dies” with that generation, I think that tastes evolve and in every generation there is “popular” music. But I think that it’s easier than ever now for the music from the past to be enjoyed and discovered by all generations. (And look, there’s more vinyl on people’s floors now than there has been in years!)

[@MaxoticsTV]

@@keithpetrasek9605 Agree! I was trying to make the point that technological and economic conditions created a period where it "appears" to those who lived in that period that their music was better. It seems you agree it's an illusion. Every generation finds the music that means something to them.

[@keithpetrasek9605]

@@MaxoticsTV yes for sure. I guess I’m tired of hearing these rants of “today’s music is just not as good”, especially from prominent KZbinrs who grew up in the 70’s. Rick is an intelligent and knowledgeable creator, but for him to cast out these blanket statements is ridiculous. I believe he is capable of appealing to all generations, but not when he is talking negatively about the current music landscape. As another commenter said “ he is only focused on the Spotify top 10” which is a stupid benchmark. I know he has highlighted some new music, but it’s really nothing in comparison to what is truly out there. Sure that’s what is popular and most listened to, but it’s not representative of all the sub categories and genres that SO MANY people are listening to! Rick praises all these session musicians and giants of the jazz world, but were all their songs in the top 10?? No. This longing for the past is fine and dandy, but not at the expense of putting down a whole new generation of equally innovative and inspiring music.