What's Wrong With Genshin Impact | Asmongold Reacts to Necrit

This guy played Genshin Impact for 700 hours to find out why it's BAD.
by @Necrit • I Played Genshin For 7...
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[@almost2serious]

Fun fact for those who don't play Genshin: If somebody tells you you MUST use a certain character, they likely have no idea what they're talking about.

[@Cephalon-ghost]

Geo supremacy

[@prospect2]

@@Cephalon-ghost geo is the most boring element to play, no reactions, and this is coming from someone who used them alot

[@pedro3051]

@@joshbrosh6626 Watching tierlists is fine. Understanding why the units are in the tiers that they are is the most important part though.

[@confettipompeii877]

@@prospect2 geo unga bunga is the best gameplay ngl. just smack stuff without worrying about elemental bs

[@ymw1107]

​@@prospect2 and? I like to play unga bunga alot, and it definitely doesn't detract any less fun I have with it.

[@sultanofswing44]

"You don't beat genshin you just wait for it" one of the best quotes I've ever heard.

[@rodrigoantonio1995]

For me it take 8 months to consistently clear all floors 3*

[@rodrigoantonio1995]

@@Apple_Beshy the first abyss was rly close for me. That one was rly easy. But it took me until I got 2 rly good carrys. For me it was Hutao and Wolf boy( forgot his name).

[@captaindanger13]

@@Apple_Beshy yeah once you fully build your characters, all combat becomes super easy as long as you don't do something stupid like using electro and hydro vs tartaglia without proper healing and shielding (which is what i did one time and i got surprised with how much damage tartaglia could do to my ayato (who has 19k hp btw). rip my ayato.)

[@captaindanger13]

@@rodrigoantonio1995 awe yeah Razor gang

[@hariyanuar8222]

@@Apple_Beshy im curious if that still holds up in this month's abyss

[@ragingflare123]

The amount of times Asmongold reacted to Genshin combined could make up many players time spent on the actual game!

[@bwaka9178]

Yeah right dude I don't play this game but a dude that plays wow the biggest time sink and other people are wasting there time lol.

[@ch1dd]

two things 1- No it couldn't 2- This is way better than playing

[@sirnonsense5033]

I mean making content is his job. And if it works it works.

[@chaosinfernoid9008]

​@@tchen8124 You would be surprised only Chads can enjoy

[@Kaltsit-]

@@tolgayatamturk2304 honestly as a Genshin player, he is doing it smart. Skipping the Stockholm Syndrome.

[@Zynarch97]

One day he will start playing Genshin Impact but we can't forget the important ritual he needs to do before that which is watching all Genshin character demos.

[@ucmanhle9601]

He'll probably finish ff14 before playing GI, which means never.

[@MoonDasher07734]

I'm from an alternate timeline, where asmongold has been a certified weeb streamer, not a wow player. I'm sorry to say, he still has not played Genshin Impact. He did finish the FF14 MSQ though, because he had to, because he's a hardcore raider in the game. He also went bald, wore cat eats, talked in uwu (sometimes) and loved to cosplay as a boss in FF14.

[@matheuswagner5198]

I would say that watching demos would spoil his first time experience, but dude already watched more hours of Genshin related content than many Genshin players have of played time.

[@orion7011]

He should prob wait until we get past Fontaine. So that he will have a lot of content to comment on.

[@YrualXIX]

@@randomuser8150 the day he plays Genshin will be the day Zy0x plays Elden Ring

[@KevinPan-tl6vn]

Moral of the story, don't play it for others, play at your own pace and with your own expectations

[@orthy853]

If your event contains important aspects of the story then you should make them replayable. Remove the "limited time" items but make the important bits another phase.

[@captaindanger13]

this reminds me of that time they had an event for the chasm interlude quest and then when the event ended, the quest was still there. i think the same happened with the shenhe interlude quest where we had to fight osial's wife. idk why they don't just make all of these event quests interlude quests.

[@Zhangjiajie425]

Its to manage the storage/size of the game. The games main revenue comes from Mobile, and having all the limited quests be replayable would make the games size over like 64 gigs at this point. Its why side quests arent voice acted as well

[@jornogioster3916]

​@@Zhangjiajie425they can just make voice pack an optional download. Voicing all the lines is just too much work for them.

[@spieuer8942]

@@jornogioster3916 Main event of the patch (with said story) is always voiced.

[@spyro3635]

That's what they're doing with star rail

[@SabakuSasori]

I'm afraid that the main reason why world quests aren't voiced and events come and go is file size. If they voice acted for example Aranayaka and the entire Golden Slumber quest chain, on top of keeping every event, the game would've been way too big to work on most platforms, especially phones. This is a mobile game after all.

[@Ultani]

but it shouldnt be a moblile game, mihoyo needs to stop treating genshin like one, its already past that, its too big and gonna get even bigger with new regions

[@lucasfranke5161]

@@Ultani Genshin made 4 billion dollars on mobile alone, there's no way they will just shift away from mobile

[@Ultani]

@@lucasfranke5161 4 billion? I call cap, where did you see that they made that much on mobile only?

[@nore5992]

@@lucasfranke5161 I think its 2.8 billion$ on mobile alone in 6 month of 2022.

[@lucasfranke5161]

@@nore5992 4 billion as of January 2023

[@telensatsuki6817]

I think Asmon will be the first Genshin player who can finish the main story and all of the content without playing it lol

[@shutup1037]

Good for him

[@2024istheyearofblessing]

​@@Apple_Beshyare you playing Fontaine? New characters are grear

[@jaradrichardsC137]

​@Apple_Beshy Well, yea you just complete all the quests available until the game updates and the story continues. Wouldn't necessarily call that quitting

[@yourbanhmi]

@@Apple_BeshyYou can complete dailies by exploring or doing a quest now instead of 4 dumb time consuming missions..

[@Maikel710]

@@yourbanhmi they need 5 minutes. Most of the time it’s just killing someone or give something to someone. XD

[@aaron2x4]

Getting the perfect artifact piece is only half the battle... Upgrading it is another heartbreaking story lol I used to do Artifact runs hardcore that I pretty much didnt play the Main Story for half a year since every run burns me out afterwards Came back into the game again this year with a whole new mindset and I'm enjoying it again (granted I'm still far behind the latest content)

[@williamberry3596]

I think the problem is people treat this game like an mmo, that’s why I’m always hearing people running out of content. If you can’t play as intended, your gonna have a bad time. And your better off playing something else.

[@smug_slime]

Please don’t farm artifacts or at least keep it to a minimum. It’s not even fun.

[@dracoknight9066]

The biggest issue is the strength span artifacts cover. I had mid set on my Ganyu. 4 garbage pieces and 1 45% CD substat godroll. I was doing 15-20 k damage per shot and the world started outscaling me in Sumeru. Recently decided to gamble away my year of saving up 5* artifacts with 2 good substats and godrolled a few more. I am now doing 45-65 k damage per shot. Nothing survives and I can ignore elemental reactions on bosses. More importantly, I'm pretty much done. I lost my need to log in as I pretty much have nothing to do aside from farming artifacts for my second team which is half complete as I wait for reruns. The game has very little to offer once you no longer need to run the endless artifact treadmill.

[@luk4s56]

yep playing since release, dont have a single god tier artifact...

[@shiroeikami8467]

​@@showaker4755 I'm not entirely sure what you mean by MMO. MMO would be something where you can meet random players whether you want it or not and allow you to beat hardest content with friends. The harder side content in genshin doesn't allow you to play with other people. And while yes you can choose to co-op when farming artifacts and ores, you won't have any encounter with random player unless you allow it to happen.

[@N0x3w]

Dude, what's wrong with being an F2P??? The fact that we're willing to spend our money on more valuable things than a gacha game?

[@Kaltsit-]

Albedo isn’t actually met in an event. You meet him in his character story quest.

[@miguelinfante9745]

I think Necrit meant that he meet Albedo in the windblume event that just happened, because he didnt play his character story quest to that point

[@zenixkiryu]

And learn literally nothing about him

[@Kaltsit-]

@@zenixkiryu I mean, you’re not wrong

[@r.d.6290]

I watched videos on Genshin about Albedo and "susbedo" cutscenes in Dragonspine. And I thought I will see it in his story quest. Turned out I was wrong, his quest had none of that cool stuff.

[@Kaltsit-]

@@r.d.6290 you’re right, the cool stuff about him aren’t in his story quest.

[@brynphillips9957]

Genshin doesn't have a dark story? There is some pretty dark shit in the story and lore.

[@gadstvo]

The problem is storyTELLING. It's so light that honestly I started to not care since nothing bad will ever happen with characters or because of charactes. Big potencial but poor realization.

[@orion7011]

@@gadstvo Genshin had a few characters deaths in Inazuma. Sumeru is pretty dark lore-wise imo.

[@brynphillips9957]

@@gadstvo I think it is a style of storytelling which you see a lot in Asian storytelling but less so in Western style storytelling. It is light on the surface but digging a bit deeper you start to find there is a lot of ugly hidden beneath. It creates a contrast that leaves a sense that there is something off about the world. Plus we have had islands where the plot of the island was literally that a child was ritually sacrificed to a 'god' and the 'god' was so pissed off over it, it killed everyone on the island. Dragonspine basically had the story of an entire country devout to Celestia freezing to death when Celestia dropped the Sky Nail on them. It is definately realised but they have chosen to be subtle about it. A lot of the story and lore in Genshin is. Hell, most players probably don't know who the Primordal One is unless they have watched a KZbin video on the lore.

[@peacepham7838]

​@@brynphillips9957 The storytelling just isn't good, that's it. I give no fk about the kid or the island, cause you see NONE of that, why I have to care about how mad the god after that? Take egyptian pyramids as example. You see how massive it is, you wonder how much slave die for it, how could they build it, you can see Pharaoh history and mummy, the live of ppl in that empire. It's all great experience. Now back to "Genshin dark story", why do I have to care?

[@gadstvo]

​@@brynphillips9957 No-no, I'm a big fan of jrpg and I know what I'm telling about. It's exactly about HOW it's told, not about WHAT. It's just made you a bit sad while you playing like Ru story or Jeht etc., but in the end there is no Impact from such stories. They are bittersweet and that's all. I just hope the final countdown with Celestia will be a bit better, but for now only Dainsleif Chasm story made me a bit emotional. Even Caribert was underwhelming. I just can't even compare Genshin storytelling with any FF or Persona. So yes, it feels like it wants to play safe and not disturb the most sensitive players.

[@troychitty8237]

At this point I'm not sure if "confidently incorrect" is Asmon's character or actually his personality, and I'm too afraid to ask.

[@rotmistrzjanm8776]

Asmon is Ai before it got popular

[@cn_soul6953]

Rich people don't understand why people play Genshin as F2P be like...

[@korymoore8041]

With the event with story jammed in, the problem is that its not repayable so people who are new miss it

[@ghoulchan7525]

and when the game closes one day. Boom nothing

[@thedraynor8492]

You know, I was looking forward to Asmon eventually playing the game but honestly I’d rather not now after realizing he will just go the route of dumping a bunch of money as soon as the banner is available. It really kills the fun and makes watching streams of the game when someone just insta-whales with no investment of time into the game. Watching F2P like Necrit or low spender journey’s like IslandXD makes watching so much more enjoyable. Already kind of seen the same with Asmon playing HSR and it’s not as entertaining (especially because talking about money spent now makes up most of the commentary for the rest of the play through).

[@AloneLivAoS]

Exactly. I like Asmon and think he's generally entertaining but his gacha arc just sucks. I wanted to see him play Genshin and listen to his thoughts on specific story content and also struggle on some boss fights and the abyss. But he's not even trying... all he says to every single problem is "ohhh, why don't you just spend some money" with the same "one brow raised" expression every few minutes and then he just straight up skips the gamba and goes straight into purchasing characters with extra steps to make an already extremely easy game for f2p casual gamers several times easier. Where is the entertainment in that?

[@YumiSumire]

​@@AloneLivAoS u gotta understand, when you have that much money, time is more important

[@mohammadrezamirzadeh4589]

That is exactly what i was thinking. I was very hyped for him to play but the thing is , now that i watched both necrit and zepla playing the game from the beginning, i honestly don't need to see asmon play it anymore . I have seen enough . The amount of fun i had when i was watching zepla... . And above all , if asmon play, then dic.tone gonna comeback, and i really don't want to see his annoying genshin videos again

[@SnakeTGK]

@@mohammadrezamirzadeh4589 yeah, I we really don't need clowntone to come back to spit bs on the game and the community again ^^

[@peterbabicki8252]

I'm not a fan of the Gacha whale sessions. There's no suspense or tension when you have an infinite amount of pulls. It also makes the gameplay boring. It's like playing a game on the easiest difficulty, and boasting when you win, or playing a single player game, and cheating to give yourself max stats.

[@gingerbread_GB]

But on a more serious note, most of the points he covered were because Mihoyo was a growing company. Genshin was not made with its current popularity in mind. A lot of its game mechanics and stories were haphazardly put together. Some worked well, some didn't. As Mihoyo expand, they focused more on introducing new things, instead of fine tuning old mechanics and stories, which is a fair strategy. If they dwelled on refining old systems and storylines, Genshin might not have blew up like it did. Then on the other hand, when MHY got money, they went overboard with some of the ideas. They tried to build a whole universe in a year, which took others decades to do. What you get is inconsistency in storytelling. (The writers are Chinese, there are cultural differences I won't dive into that may seem odd to a western audience.) Then they spam the players with hundreds of game mechanics and see which one works. Basically it all boiled down to this one thing, Genshin Impact was a steep learning process for Mihoyo. They had so little talent and experience in the beginning and was thrown so much money, so it took them a while to figure out what the players really wanted. I would imagine future expansions and follow on games from Mihoyo should be more consistent.

[@asdf-ix8jw]

This. I really think genshin would be very different if it never was massively successful.

[@FrenchDinosaur]

I've been saying this for ages now. I've researched a fair bit about Genshin's pre-launch marketing and all for a project, and really, from what I've observed they really did not expect Genshin to blow up as massively as it has become. The scale was at least 10x their expected outcome so they really did not expect it. They probably hoped for it to be successful, but did not even think that it would be as huge as it got. There's a very gross yet simple way of knowing this. Genshin's pre-launch development budget was (still impressive) $100 million. Let's be a little conservative here and think that they'd at least want their ROI to be a little over their development budget within the fiscal. So their expected income for their first year, $120 million. That's a ROI of 20%, already a pretty good ROI in most metrics. Now here's the kicker, their actual revenue was a mind-blowing $2 Billion in their first year. That's a ROI that companies can only hope to achieve in dreams. I have to reiterate tho, this is a very gross oversimplification of their developmental process and ROI. It's by no means a clear indicator. At the very least, it paints a picture of Genshin's projected success to their actual absolute dominance of the market upon release.

[@thuaners]

i think this is one of the best comments i seen about Genshin! I wish more people understood this! And after having learned all that from making genshin, look how smooth the starting experience for Star Rail is!

[@nef36]

Wasn't Honkai really big before Genshin came onto the scene?

[@arufianz]

@@nef36 For HI3 i think it only big among the weeb who are used with gacha/anime game mostly China/Japan/SEA country.. unlike genshin which is cross platform, HI3 was release in 2016 on mobile only and its not available globally until 2018 and on Steam in 2021. So, most gamer didn't know about it cause its not that hype in the west when it came out, Edit: it make me realize the drama Genshin copying BOTW is really good marketing strategy tbh.

[@bryxer7v7]

I know Asmon is only saying stuff like "spend money" as meme and to show how the game try's to make you feel like you have to spend, but he just continued to say it and didn't stop, it felt like he was thinking the dude was doing is wrong by not spending? It really doesn't matter how I feel about this but damn does this make feel uncomfortable 😕

[@Murdocke89]

Why you just private the iDubbz video? I was watching that!

[@jaggerjackize]

Dude, I was thinking the same thing lmao

[@Frigade]

I Clicked on it and it disappeared :/

[@LXnobia]

so that’s why i can’t find it in my watch later damn..

[@Phiro00]

Oh damn

[@chakaraninjaltc]

I just finished that video and come here lol

[@captaindanger13]

if genshin had a playtime counter, i guarantee a majority of players would have already reached way past 1000 hrs.

[@darklight306]

Ps5 shows playtime I'm at 2,343 hrs

[@franklynwatts4437]

2,903 hrs 😅 ps4

[@Jart988]

It does, with the battle chronicle webpage you can see the days active

[@yaB0i_Hawkx]

yeah seeing as how necrit has 700h in around 4-6 months.... me who almost played for 3 years- Like i bet i am near that 3k- and that blows my mind tbh qwq, thought i have around 1k at most

[@ashik_fahmin]

I downloaded it from Epic Games Store, back on 2.3; It shows 4,512 hours. 💀 I don't even know how the hell did I spend this much time!

[@GreenHellTube]

Holy shit, this dude spent 3 pities worth of primogems on a weapons banner while still not having good teams built, that's pretty much the single most idiotic thing he could have done on an F2P accouunt. Most of the 5 star weapons give something like 5-10% boost of damage, compared to their F2P counterparts, you pull them ONLY when your teams and artifacts are already at their maximum potential and you need to squeeze that tiny bit of extra damage boost. Or he could have pulled for C1 Hu Tao to fix that stamina problems of hers, even tho they are irrelevant since he has both Yelan and XQ, you don't need to animation cancel when you use her with them.

[@midi-sama]

he explained in the stream that he wants to see how bad the banners are, including the weapons banner.

[@nore5992]

@@midi-sama Well now he finds the answer how bad WP banners are.

[@lawfulgoodnun1646]

He doesnt play hutao because shes boring af to play not because stamina issues

[@Eunha1311]

Your 5-10% damage boost from 4star refinenment 1 to a 5 star is quite wrong, good example would be Raiden with Catch and her signature weapon. Same for nilou and bloom damage with her weapon or any 4 star. You also don´t pull for sig weapons only if you have maximum potential. If you are f2p you pull on weapon banners that boost your overall account damage and not for one 5star you could give one char, that´s what stupid people do.

[@midi-sama]

@@nore5992 yeah, he actually did that to see how bad it is lol

[@ElementalX100]

they way it works in genshin is, if you have good supports, you can use whatever the fk you want as a carry

[@derago-dev]

If you go into a game thinking spending money is part of it, you're always gonna fall for the gacha system... Genshin is not a P2W game, but it can be, that's what makes all people hate it.

[@DktorClzn]

Genshin is not for kids, Genshin is for adult otakus in need of affection. No joke.

[@twintersify]

Asmon is coping so hard about the fact that you don't HAVE to play genshin as a money pit

[@senorwookie6178]

Yeah it's literally like the only gacha I've played where I didn't see paying as a way to get forward. Just buying the battlepass and the welkins moon will get you every 5* character in the game as you get enough to make 80+ summons each new banner comes out.

[@Remedy462]

"Well I can still spend all the money I want to regardless!" -Asmongold

[@sandyk9300]

@@senorwookie6178 u cant put battlepass and not pay in the same statement....its a counter statement

[@senorwookie6178]

@@sandyk9300 I definetly can, as I clearly stated that I didn't see paying as a way to get forward in the game. With my second part I wanted to emphasize that with only 20 bucks a month you can get most content out of this game with ease.

[@sandyk9300]

@@senorwookie6178 i know but the sentence was pretty funny...this aint pay to win and if you buy this bp you get every character

[@Flunksqk]

Spiral Abyss is actually really easy. I spent like 100€ on Genshin in total only (for welkins) and have been getting 36 stars since like 6 months after the game's release. You absolutely do not need to whale, it's not p2w at all. Just play smarter. But he's right you have to plan your pulls and not just pull for whatever and make sure you can enable the characters you like or want to play. Also the weaponbanner is definitely a scam. If you're f2p, don't pull on it, the 4* are good enough.

[@trappyt4191]

A bit late but can you explain why the weapon banner is a scam? What's different than the character banner? I'm f2p and have been playing since release but there are a lot of basic things I still don't understand about the game. Me is stupid.

[@lolakola2917]

@@trappyt4191 in weapon banner worst case scenario you have to hit pity 3 times, in char banner it's 2 times. Also if you stop pulling before you get what you wish for in weapon banner your epidomized path will reset in next banner. it's actually more expensive than getting a character and there are always very good 4 star weapons for your characters it's not a huge upgrade. instead of pulling for weapons look for character synergies and pull for those.

[@sakmadeek4118]

skill issue plenty of youtube video shows you can beat the spiral abyss with 3 star weapon.

[@burnerpepsi7475]

This guys rolled more times than me on the weapon banner, and I started on launch.

[@joshchen322]

And he could have beat abyss 0* if he just play a little longer and save the gems instead of wasting it on the weapons banner and get mad.

[@orion7011]

@@joshchen322 True. Candace could have used a Fav weapon. That guy did a lot of artifact farming also imo

[@xelloskaczor5051]

​@@orion7011 doubt his diluc would get there without the sword. F2P options for new players on Diluc are trash. Assuming he does not use Hu Tao, he likely got hard carried by that sword.

[@Thongn246]

I know so many pure f2p players who clears the entire spiral abyss biweekly. I can't believe there are noobs out there who still think it's only for whales lol..

[@neuronaut-666]

I love how Asmon immediately recognized, without ever really playing Genshin, that if you don't 3-star floor 12 of the Abyss then it doesn't really count.

[@asdeedsawee4608]

Dumbass still talking about how "these games are pay to win garbage" with proof that it's not staring him in the face, Genshin is easy to finish completely free to play, you only need to pay if you really want, you're never forced to like other games

[@MegaDuke4life]

And Asmongold have hours of Genshin react content and played none of it......amazing lol

[@wujekstalin1]

Even better I always watch it even never playing the game too (ok I played it like 5 minutes to try)

[@1kbmahan]

Yeah he either play it or stop caring lol

[@TurtleChad1]

Calling Genshin a great game is like calling Joe Biden the most popular president in American history

[@williamberry3596]

Your opinion.

[@bpmaace8681]

@@TurtleChad1 i mean it is personnally i believe the pinnacle of casual gaming like even pubg matches are really long. You need to play 15 min a day and when you are free do things tha you missed . I don't any other game ever does that but it's bad for gamers who play for insane hours but genshin's main audience is casual

[@kaiserdostuff]

Delete HuTao for animation cancel is like deleting Super Mario speedrun for using rollout.

[@glory_m99]

What makes me confused that I'm F2P player and I finish spiral abyss every time with 3* It's not that hard actually

[@projectsin8216]

Yep its not that hard.

[@glory_m99]

@@projectsin8216 Wenut tho was a pain, I'm not gonna lie 😖

[@Kla_almas]

man lucky the most ive gotten is 34 but my characters are not properly built and im happy with that lol

[@glory_m99]

@@Kla_almas just farm artifacts, then everything will be good 👍

[@Kla_almas]

@@glory_m99 but i keep getting characters and im like i have to level them up first then ill farm and then i get a 5 star again smh

[@lop90ful1]

I dont think Honkai starrail dialogue drags tho ? its quite the opposite its straight to the point. While in genshin they quite litterly just stalling I also like how NIcrit acts like he dosnt know why people called him out on speedruning the story while he quite litterly did because he wanted to get to events so he litterly just skipped through dialogue or left it on auto run while was afk then he wacts suprised when people complained

[@lop90ful1]

@@YumeBat yes lmao i had the hardest time watching him do ayaka quest and then the event man little ignored both then complained, sure does this less in Sumeru but it's still a thing he does

[@Kurisu139]

If you skip the world quest You are gonna get confuse when there is a new terminology appear in the dialogue. The game even include "definition of terms" in the dialogue so skippers have some context. But then he's gonna make predictions while not knowing what even kitsune and youkai means. (I bet he doesnt even know the story of Dante's Divine Comedy) Then hes gonna get confuse and compare it to other games. Damn, thats dumb. If your gonna call yourself a loremaster shouldnt your knowledge only limited on games?

[@thesunthrone]

Thing is though, with how Genshin handles the limited stories, you HAVE TO speedrun everything else in order to get there - or miss out on it entirely. Sure, you can also use the "just start this story I don't care about context" option, but that one is also gated behind "oopsie doopsie this one random NPC is actually busy because you picked up some side quest, now go do bunch of content you don't care about" and it just completely ruins the experience. By getting frustrated like this, the content you are forced to do also lands worse, and Paimon summarizing every line gets far more grating than if you just did it on launch. Another issue is the character levelup materials being locked behind current content when you are a new player. I had Shikanoin Heizou drop for me early on, and I really enjoyed his gameplay. But uh oh, as soon as I reached a certain world level, if I wanted to use this cool character that I like, I had to progress through the entirety of Liyue and a good portion of the Chasm to get to his levelup materials. This is a non-issue for a player that's caught up, but it is a massive, collossal problem for a newer player, and it results in endless frustration of trying to get through all the loops, twists and turns Genshin's scuffed quest mechanic of "busy NPCs" turns it into. So at some point, yes, you just start slamming the skip button because you just want to get through it to get more spins or get to the area your character's materials are and you absolutely cannot bring yourself to care about whatever drama the story tries to set up inbetween. It's Genshin's FOMO gacha system kneecapping its own story, and this is something that'll mostly happen to newer players - such as Necrit.

[@lop90ful1]

@@thesunthrone bro he litterly catched up with the event and he estill SPEEDR RAN THE EVENTS STORY while he was doing it. it made no fucking sense

[@tango1901]

14:47 I love how Asmongold starts to go on a rant every time there is a subject about F2P players and how much he does not understand. He may be one of the most grounded individuals on Twitch but one thing he misses all the time is that not everyone is rich like him. And that is the only answer. You don't understand because you are not poor Asmon, you are just rich. That's the simple answer. Those F2P players are just not that financially stable like a millionaire like him. Also, it does not mean that you come from a poor background and you "made it" that you necessarily still relate to those kind of issues since they are in your past. You can surely understand how it feels because you had experience, but as time goes, those struggles are not the same as it was 10-20 years ago.

[@candycastle3194]

He's attacking the P2W systems, not the F2P players. He's right that for a F2P player it makes no sense to play these kinds of games.

[@arufianz]

@@candycastle3194 but if there's no P2W system there will be no F2P player tho

[@yoursteban3713]

​@@candycastle3194 why is that? I haven't spent a single penny on this game and I've got lots of characters I like to play as. The story, setting and especially music and lore are great, and you can complete any content using four-stars that released in 1.0. I've been playing this game for more than a year, so I don't understand why I shouldn't.

[@Jgab1024]

I always understood it as asmond is being sarcastic when he states it is stupid not to buy/pay. Am i wrong? 🧐

[@dg2drunk]

@@Jgab1024 yes he is, it just flew over this commenter's head that asmon is mocking p2w by showing how much money he can burn

[@pedro3051]

To be fair, from the (few) vods I've seen of Necrit playing Genshin he's doing anything but paying attention to the story. And Genshin is a story-driven game, so if you're going to make bad jokes during dialogues to not understand what the fuck is going on to then make (90% wrong) guesses about things that are mostly explained in the previously-mentioned dialogues, only to end up having to watch a KZbin video of the story; yes, people are going to backseat because watching someone be unable to literally just read dialogue gets tiring. Doesn't apply to me because Necrit is one of the last streamers I've seen, but a few of his vods have already been recommended to me on KZbin and dear lord, they're painful.

[@joshchen322]

Thank you for clarifying. So Necrit is like your typical genshin redditor who complains about story being too hard to understand and also complaining about Paimon summarize everything that goes on.

[@xLuis89x]

for someone who apparently doesnt pay attention to the story, he was spot on with the inazuma arc, and with the fact that there is a lot of clutter in dialogues and that some characters are shoehorned into the story

[@skiing4everPS3]

He's a lore nerd in LoL, i doubt he didn't pay attention/catch what was going on. Genshin just doesn't have a consistent New player experience as they keep stacking new content in.

[@aazaroth1421]

u think the guy who kept on with lore of league of legends and how trivial it could get at times. doesn't pay attention to lore of a mobile game? 🤣

[@pedro3051]

@@K3Vz0 That's fair. A big criticism I have is that there should absolutely be a skip button on Dialogue in the game for people who just want to blast through shit (and to skip dialogue on daily commissions for example). Found it weird that wasn't one of Necrit's complains, instead choosing to complain about filler dialogue; which he didn't even read to begin with (at least on stream).

[@UTU]

Him feeling he had to play Hu Tao in a certain way is very weird to me I don't do her cancel-animation in a good fashion or at all I just go in and whack stuff

[@evilmiyoho6742]

You are losing half her dmg like that.

[@UTU]

@@evilmiyoho6742 It's maybe 20%, and even if you just auto attack with her she'd be better than any pyro carry except XQ (who should be support anyway) or Yoimiya, so him opting out is weird :)

[@evilmiyoho6742]

​@@UTU Should I repeat it again, normie? You can x2 her dmg with jump cancel.

[@Zolwiol]

About "Show, don't tell" It's of course not always true but what I wanted to point out is as good they are doing HoYo is still shaking off their "Visual Novel" roots where you have to use dialogue and narration to "show" events.

[@rainx381]

Oh, I finally see it. It's a skill issue.

[@glory_m99]

I genially believe that Genshin way more fun with F2P account It makes it a little bit challenging, tbh it's not that much hard to get characters I have every meta character in my account without paying some with C1 or C2 it's luck and exploring that's it

[@CzDelta92]

same, you get so much fp2 currency you can assure getting anything you want, unless you want to get every single 5* then thats impossible but assuring all meta characters is possible, i lost every 50/50 but 1 and still got raiden nahida miko ayaka shenhe kokomi and not even counting the others that i lost the 50/50s to like jean diluc etc, im not even that hardcore, still missing sumeru parts to explore

[@Lesterberne]

For sure, i say that as someone who has a welkin acct and a f2p acct. i value and appreciate my f2p account way more

[@glory_m99]

@@CzDelta92 for sure, I didn't explore inzuma and sumeru desert at all, so I still have plenty when the Hydro Archon drops

[@kiana4237]

Yeah that's the point 💀 holy if you add voice acting on workd quests no mobile player could ever play genshin because of its size in storage like wtf bro no bad move 💀

[@zSTALKn]

… that didn’t age quite so well.

[@kiana4237]

@@zSTALKn what do you mean?

[@zSTALKn]

@@kiana4237 It now sits at over 110GB. I can only imagine the performance issues on devices that aren’t PC

[@kiana4237]

@@zSTALKn bro I stopped playing all together cause the thing literally needs 160 space to pre-install 💀

[@jara287]

Necrit got me into Genshin, and the gameplay is fun. It is however a very easy game and you can finish the story easily with the free characters. Even on max world level everything is a pushover. When you actually get characters that do dmg it's even worse. You do all your setup and get to your main dps to go all out and everything is already dead. I don't even have the correct or good artifacts XD, apparently the abyss is hard but I am still just exploring and doing the story. So yea a very easy game that is a lot of fun, and unless you really like a character there's not even a reason to pull.

[@johnli7818]

the only challenge is Abyss. other content is basically garbadge..can do it while im sleeping.

[@fiyibomiolabode]

So you haven't done the hardest part of the game but say it's easy?

[@johnli7818]

They should add something other than abyss

[@jara287]

@@fiyibomiolabode abyss is also not really a core part of the game, to be fair. Its just there and at some point you need 2 teams to play. I only have 5 charachters so i cant even play it yet. So yea i havent played the higher floor yet but i have played the other 99% of the game, and that 99% is crazy ez.

[@segbefiajustin2408]

​@@johnli7818 just cuz it's not a challenge doesn't mean it's garbage.

[@reasanka8667]

the same guy who didnt knew who scaramouche is despite meeting him just a few days prior. Is this LoL best theory crafter cc?

[@KSTK101]

Artifacts in Genshin is RNG to get the right main stat and sub stat and upgrading it and only getting the right substats upgraded 4-5 times (Cant remember). So while you can get extra runs per day it doesn't help if you aren't blessed by RNGeesus.

[@androdrissler77]

for some wondering, if genshin kept all their events (which all often have cutscenes, and the main ones are fully voicelined) the size of the game would be approx 300gb+ if not 400.

[@flyingcow5235]

i totally agree with the event part. i was there for the susbedo and hexenzirkel events but many people including myself weren't there for unreconciled stars event, which by far drops the most important piece of lore. without these events u wouldn't know about many major details. like the hexenzirkel. i don't think its been mentioned in any quests yet except for the event quest so unless u watch lore vids or read artifact lore and ingame books, u wouldn't know wtf hexenzirkel is. same goes for albedo's event. like, we want huge lore bombs, but please put them in a permanent quest

[@goldchris1111]

currently doing Inazuma, the main quests portions arnt as bad as he's making it out, idk how far im in it as i just rescued that old guy making fake visions and it was only about 1 hour of atcually doing the main quest to get to this point and im 15-20 levels underleved, been using ganyu to keep me going as my main dps. What is bad about the area are the gimmick electric barriers blocking everything and the way to deal with them and the finicky electric tether system. I did the major side quests right after gaining the travel pass and before most of the story. Sometimes you just need to back off from the game and just do the dailies that take 10-20 mins and log out so you dont get burned out from doing too much at a time. Hell this is the most friendly f2p gacha game iv ever seen and i might start just only buying the $5 thing as my monthly subscription since runescapes monlthy sub is too high price to justify it im going to go with genshin now.

[@fiyibomiolabode]

Exactly

[@KrazyGlueEXTREME]

For me gameplay wise, I suffer the combat of Honkai for the story, but I suffer the story of Genshin for the combat gameplay. To clarify there is skill needed for Genshin but you can bypass that with good artifacts, if you don't have that you can bypass it by money by getting more character constellations or better weapons. There are plenty of people who easily clear abyss f2p and even those who do 4* only everything challenges. You give Necrit's account to someone who abyss plays for fun, they will absolutely get better runs and more stars. Knowing how to play the game and abuse mechanics will take you further than a whale who doesn't understand it, but the worst part of it all is no where in the entire game does it ever teach you any of this, so everyone thinks their problem with damage is money so they can sell the banners.

[@bpmaace8681]

i actually like that part of genshin and every game that has it. Trying to do what's best with the characters i have is a lot of fun trying to find a comp without look for the meta

[@esc3107]

True. The theorycrafting can get very deep, but it`s never taught to the players.

[@xLuis89x]

I wouldn't call the f2p who clear the abyss with 36* as ''Easily'' , No , consuming a lot videos and getting only meta teams to clear it is not something that goes with the ''easy'' term, specially since artifacts are a HUGE wall, specially for F2p

[@xeacarons]

u need skill to clear genshin???? bruh i literally got nahida and kaveh recently, AR59 btw, only leveled them upto 60 little bit of talents (don't have enough fungus loot) and they clear everything with level 70 xingqiu and barbruh u just need to understand how the elemental reaction works then done u beat the game

[@CT-zg2mh]

@@esc3107 Dumb stuff like that should not be a requirement to actually do something. Just animation cancel like a god for 5 minutes to beat the ai which are gods with infinite stamina and auto aim.

[@fullreinhard]

I love it when he gets shit on for clearing Floor 12 with bad artifacts, the people who play this game don’t care for skill at all because the only meaningful thing is wasting months in domains farming sets for bigger numbers, and apparently that’s something to brag about

[@Gennosuke1983]

A blind man can clear Floor 12 with 8 seconds left on the timer, getting 36 stars is the actual challenge

[@fullreinhard]

@@Gennosuke1983 Not a challenge worth doing, if I’m being completely honest, you definitely don’t need a perfect set but more often than not the game gives you garbage even with weeks worth of farming for just one character, at that point might as well play something that actually rewards your grinding rather than fucking you in the ass

[@esc3107]

@@fullreinhard But you don`t do for the rewards, you do it because it`s the only challenge the game gives you, and if you're not rolling for the best weapons and characters it can be pretty challenging.

[@NoireEiki]

Well, there's usually a problem with the casual, that they dont know what they are doing and ended up bruteforcing with big DPS character instead, like some knowledge (like rotation) and skills matter as well Majority of my friend is casual, they can barely clear F12 with better artis and party than my *4 only runs, and I'm doing fine with their account

[@fullreinhard]

@@esc3107 What worth does the challenge have if spending real money can make it easier

[@MGC-XIII]

"Genshin is made for kids" Yeah, it's not. It's made for grown ass men.

[@viedralavinova8266]

Men and women. You'd be surprised at how balanced the demographic is for gender.

[@megamcee]

@@viedralavinova8266 one look at Zepla's playthrough of any quest that involves a male character (especially Childe or Alhaitham) will show that Genshin definitely appeals to all parts of the spectrum.

[@Caporal_Croaporal]

Uuuooohhhh 😭😭💢💢💢

[@sirnonsense5033]

I mean the colorful parts are to atrract kids and the… other parts to attract other ages 🤣

[@xLuis89x]

people in the USA forget that literal kids are under 12 and that is not the true demographic of these games. The target demographic are the teenagers and they go above 12 and up until they are18+ and become adults, teenagers start to see things in a more sexual way, that is why teenage cartoons and such already have some violence and some relationships (like boy/girlfriends and having crushes) , as opposed to media made for actual children

[@ArkBenji]

That's nothing. I've been playing Ark Survival Evolved for over 15k hours.

[@bpmaace8681]

dude why. That's such a badly designed game

[@sentientglow]

@@bpmaace8681 i have 992 hours in ark. the thing is its so hard to stop being addicted to it because there isnt a single game with atleast somewhat familiar gameplay. ark is the definition of excellent concept, horrible execution. honestly if it didnt need hundreds of gigabytes to download with all the dlcs i probably still would have it installed. though im glad i uninstalled it because sometimes it feels so soul draining but then you exit and next day you just have that urge to go back in, only to suffer again.

[@nore5992]

Damm, you must have develop some type fetish to a Dinosaur after playing that long, no offence.

[@bpmaace8681]

@@sentientglow i think they will fix that i n ark2 honestly since i felt the same way . the combat felt like i was playing an rpg for the first time. it has been a few years and i think they know how to make it good but we'll see

[@ArkBenji]

@@bpmaace8681 Agreed, but even with all it's faults I just love it.

[@patrik5535]

This guy didn't even talk about the way the game keeps your attention by having a million different things to clear out of your map.

[@Olytis]

Don't whale on Genshin Impact if you want a challenge. I personally had a lot more fun when I was struggling in the Spiral Abyss.

[@Handelo]

So basically he enjoyed the game but the community ruined it for him. Checks out.

[@Yarida10x]

1:34 based 6:53 every hyv game suffers from text/dialogue bloat. The worst offender by far is HI3's final chapters (of part 1, specifically from Thus Spoke Apocalypse)

[@TacticalDimples]

I ended up skipping through the dialogue because I’m not smart enough to grasp pseudo-quantum mechanics lmao

[@CatroiOz]

I mean it's not FGO levels of ridiculous at least

[@fiyibomiolabode]

@@TacticalDimples exactly

[@bored4883]

You can full star abyss in like 2 months as F2P if U get lucky with 4* units

[@Pain-And-Gain]

I have been playing Genshin Impact as a free-to-play player since version 1.1 and have not spent any money on the game, including the battle pass or welkin. Despite this, I still love the game and find it enjoyable. I don’t know about others, but this game fits very well with me. The problem with players who spend a lot of money on the game (like Tectone) or rush through the story (like Necrit) is that they can burn themselves out by either becoming too overpowered or not fully engaging with the core of the game. Sure, there are some event-limited contents that can be missed if not participated in on time and a lack of endgame content, which are my only issues with Genshin. As for the “too much reading” complaint, I personally enjoy the story but I understand that it might become boring for streamers like Asmon. Genshin Impact is different from your average MMORPG like Tower of Fantasy. It is meant to be played at a slow pace, engaging with the story and not trying to one-shot everything. Being average in Genshin is better than being overpowered or too weak. Everyone can play the game however they like, but when they reach the current timeline of the story, they will understand that to enjoy Genshin, you need to be average. Examples of “Not playing Genshin in these styles” includes: being overpowered (like Tectone), being too weak (like my friend), playing like an FPS player (like Shroud), rushing through the story (like Necrit), shipping characters (like Genshin Twitter), and expecting too much (like myself). Thankfully, I have not expected too much from Genshin for the past two years and have been able to enjoy the game. To engage with the lore and story of Genshin Impact, I often watch Genshin lore channels like Chill with Aster, Ashikai, and CatWithBlueHat. These channels provide in-depth analysis and explanations of the game’s lore and help me better understand and appreciate the story.

[@romeopiston8211]

There's a problem with this logic about the "overpowered" part. If you sell a bazooka in a game, it is implied that a bazooka-level difficulty exists in the game. Genshin sells doubles for characters and weapons to augment their power, but where is the content you bought these things for ? If you imply something to make people buy you product but do not deliver this something, there is a problem on the seller side, Mihoyo, not the players. Some would call it a scam. Praising the "average player" is basically praising bad game design. If there's challenge, being the best you can should be required (abyss), if there's creativity, be the most creative possible should be required (serenitea pot) and if there's just fun, just playing is enough. Abyss doesn't challenge the best players, even the "not overpowered" who can beat it with basic characters and the serenitea pot severly limits the decorations that can be placed. It's already 2 important game flaws. Genshin impact is a solo game that has almost nothing in common with mmorpgs, and Tower of fantasy with its gacha is certainly not "your average mmorpgs". So the comparison ends there. Genshin impact has a lot of quality, but we don't have to find excuses for all its flaws to defend it. Nothing is perfect, that's all.

[@Pain-And-Gain]

@@romeopiston8211 Thank you for sharing your perspective on the game. I understand where you’re coming from and I agree that if the game sells powerful items, there should be content that requires those items to complete. However, I still enjoy playing the game as an average player and don’t feel the need to be overpowered to have fun. I also acknowledge that the game has flaws, but for me, the overall experience is still enjoyable. It’s interesting to hear different perspectives on the game and I appreciate your thoughts. Also please elaborate why someone like Tectone (Who mostly one-shotted every enemy and C6ed all characters but not the recent ones) get burnt out but me who played it since 1.1 did not burnt out from it. If you're going to say "Endgame" or "He's a streamer" then I'm fully onboard with you, other than that, it's a personal preference, as I said earlier, this game fits very well with me.

[@yugoxgc]

Artifacts are pure RNG nightmare that you can't buy yourself out of😢

[@Dante999000]

In other words; whatever genshin has, star rail just copies it like the long ass dialogue moments or the black screen with text part.

[@magmatrack3915]

"Hu Tao is garbage" How to destroy your credibility in one sentence

[@IDKbruh420]

f2p hu tao is garbage

[@magmatrack3915]

​@@IDKbruh420 You trippin She is amazing DPS even without CA cancelling

[@FloeticsPH]

I get it at Laughing at Ningguang's name but that is Truly an American moment 😂, the stereotype of Americans that doesn't know that there's more Counties out side of the US but at least Zack is self aware. 😂

[@RiorXD]

his second team only needed to drop xiangling and add a different element. sucrose would wave clear alone with her e and q swap out barb e hut for the dps and whoever. the team is fine. take that back the guy sucks at the game too. so yea. final edit he definitely could have gotten all three stars with his team if he was better.

[@tiggstah]

I rage so much over the unskipable dialog strings. Hours of sitting at computer, furiously jabbing space and mouse buttons screaming “HEY DON’T CARE!!!” And then every once in a while hit you with an incredibly touching and beautiful piece of story.

[@saycap]

Games unplayable without an autoclicker. Still not fun tho

[@JoedT]

I love what Zack was saying about being P2W in any game. P2W in a PvP setting can just make it unfair. But what so many people don't realize, is that it really doesn't matter when it comes to an open world action RPG w/ Gacha like Genshin Impact. You don't gain anything, there is nothing to prove. If there is competition, then it's just for fun! Like TCG in Genshin for example. Speed runners in any game, it's just to make it onto a leaderboard for bragging rights. But at the end of the day, it's all for fun! Not like there is a cash prize involved like actual tournaments.

[@skyK7711]

Videos like these are why people see genshin as trash gacha

[@Riku-Leela]

Tbf Genshin is constantly setting up because alongside the character story arcs there are nation story arcs and also the overall Teyvat story arc (plus the Traveller/sibling story arc too) so it's alot of lore set up for sure. It's like how large, ongoing animes work, they have arcs for 3 episodes, then one for the season and then one for the overall anime. Just to also mention (because most people don't realise) but Teyvat is actually only "Series" 1 of Genshin Impact, once we travel all the nations and do whatever at the end that isn't the end of the game, just this arc. Same as how Honkai has been going for years and we only recently just finished Part 1 (chapter Kiana). TLDR: there's alot of set up because goddamn there's an insane amount of plots and story to come

[@Kaltsit-]

I’m F2P and I play the game to stay away from the show-offs. I’m not joking. I’m tired of all the bs in shooters that I’ve played all my life.

[@Efrostling]

i feel like 10h is a bit of an exaggeration tbh but yeah inazuma was kinda a long set up. I didnt notice it tbh

[@Reelix]

Someone plays WoW for a week. They see Arthas die. Did that week give them enough backstory about how important Arthas was? If someone has only been playing for the past 4 months, they've missed 90% of the content. This is like playing Dragonflight for 4 months, and say you've done everything that WoW offers.

[@your_kouhai0]

They could literally just extend the game time by making missions for everyone instead of "Oh new character? Throw it in the archon quest"

[@kirayamato3181]

Only about 2 minutes in and Necrit already lied about how much time it takes to go through part 1 of inazuma's archon quest

[@biggusriggus7693]

Think he meant the msq not the archon quest. Maybe not 3 hours for that, but all the bs leading through the end of yoimiya fire work quest does feel like 10 hours of you're reading everything and not skipping text

[@baileydombroskie3046]

It’s highly likely either some1 has already brought this up to him or asmon has learnt this but I will still bring it up anyways. U only get 180 resin per day for free and each 5 star artifact will cost 20 resin, so that’s per run. U can also do condensed resin runs which provide double the rewards for double the cost. Either way u only get 9 5 star artifacts per day for F2P. It’s something like 3 times that for whales. I’m not 100% sure. Each main stat has a % chance to get a particular stat, however they r. It equal in chances. It’s something like 1-2% chance to get the preferred main stat u want. And on top of that a 5 star artifact can have 3 or 4 starting substats, with 4 substats being the limit. And the chances of getting the substats u want from the start is also skewed making the gud stats rare. On top of that the artifact gains a substat roll every 4 lvs and has a equal chance to roll into 1 of its current substats unless it’s a 3 stater at no enhancement. This all means that it will take months for whales to get the 5 artifacts they want for 1 character that r well invested, but they r not yet godtier.

[@guujigaming]

18:18 it’s why you would get her constellations lol

[@Slazors]

Why'd you private the idubbbz video bro I was watching that

[@ZiIIous]

I watched it, he was basically saying he's apologizing for money because being racist gets him demonetized now. Also saw in the comments someone say "he didn't earn for 2 years". I don't agree with Asmon here though, it was an unnecessary accusation, whether there is proof for it or not. Edit: actually nevermind, I'm referring to another video.

[@poxxyplays]

I gotta say - the closest i'd ever come to playing a weeb game circa 2022 was getting the Final Fantasy VIII xbox as a kid, but preferring to play Kingdom Hearts on the PS2. I also am not willing to spend money on any game as I only ever seem to enjoy Rocket League and MMORPGs/JRPGs, which if i'm spending any money at all its on a subscription to play or a battlepass (maybe) within the game. I have spent 0 cents on Genshin after picking it up about 7 days ago (ish) - I am nearing in on AR 40. The gameplay, the systems within the game - and even the grinds are amazing. This would be a flawless 10/10 game that everyone and their mom would be playing, if grinding wasnt paywalled due to a resin system, which is the currency for claiming (in classic nerd terms) dungeon and boss loot - as well as a few other things; As well as it is not an MMO. You can do co-op, but I have no friends that play this game so I have not experienced any way but solo (even though im spammed for World Joins constantly but i heard people just like to ravage your world for supplies so i never say yes). The pull system is completely fine, and I haven't even had the pleasure of a 5 star ANYTHING aside from a system given gladiators piece. It just seems if you really interact with the world, i.e going out of your way to get every chest, every oculus, every boar - every plant that you see? The game rewards everything you do, with loot from kills and primogems with basically everything - i find myself doing twenty pulls just happening to check my primos for the first time in a bit. Hell, the cooking process even, is just simply fun. Any game dev, copy this game - inch by inch. Remove tedious dialog, remove microtransactions aside from cosmetics for individual characters (if need be), and remove the grind cap. Make it a playable MMO atmosphere, with leaderboards - world raid bosses. Lastly... might get some hate - but take some of the thirst trap eye candy garbage out of a game that constantly also features young looking characters like Paimon. Or, at the least - dont make any characters designed to look that young either way.

[@Goldy01]

This is a refreshing take, even though I'm confused by your claim of not having played "weeb games" but being a fan of JRPGs lol Genshin has a nice combat system, despite its balance flaws in the elemental reaction department, which kept me hooked. The thing is, once you have opened all the chests, and done all the quests (which isn't hard to do if you played since day 1), there's just no substance left. You empty your resin and do 4 short daily tasks and log out again. BTW if you're interesting in "genshin, but mmo" check out Blue Protocol coming in 2024 :) I am eagerly awaiting that game for some time now.. it's gonna be glorious!

[@Evgenia00]

Every time I hear "No, don't remove limited events!", I also hear the sad cry of mobile users. You can say "But what about important lore?", there is like a 99% chance, that it will be repeated - either in the main quest or in the character's story. ps. About Albedo. My man was never part of the main plot. He always appears exclusively in events. Unlikely that you will be introduced to the character out the blue. You must complete a chain of quests first 🤷‍♀️ Also. This dude put Hu Tao and Barbara in the same team. No wonder she can't dps.🤣🤣🤣

[@1Kitsune1]

Exactly! Events are teasers for story, the only exception being reconciled stars, but that was the first one and it's not like the game doesn't change dialogue for those who didn't play it.

[@nore5992]

Yeah i'm not gonna lie, i have played GI since CBT. And i'm gonna say, Bad move for Hoyo at that time when Albedo stories is region locked event for Dragonspine. That was such a bad decision anf it bites them back when they starts introducing Albedo to new events, because New players can't find him except from some Story Character. Buti can safely says at that time when Albedo was release, they didn't expect GI would be a massive hits so yeah. Such a shame it was.

[@lawfulgoodnun1646]

Albedo was in the latest windblume or whatever. Any new player would he confused about him because there is no way to experience his stroy without youtube

[@miachanmlp7347]

Yeah, this is kind of how I see it as well. Don't get me wrong I do think they need to make limited time events replayable (maybe you can like download it, the same way you can download the different dubs? That way it's easier on mobile players) but the important lore that those events mention will be talked about in game. When they show them in limited time events, it's there so people can theorize before it's actually revealed. The two examples I see when people bring up "lore locked behind limited time events" is "Unreconciled Stars" and "Shadow Amidst Snowstorms" For Unreconciled Stars, the main problem was the "Sky is fake" reveal, but in then the Sumeru Archon quest brought that back with Dottore (also, a secret message you find in the Chasm also mentions it) For Shadow Amidst Snowstorms, the main reveal has to do with Durian (Susbedo) and the confirmation of Rhinedottir being Gold and Albedo being a Homunculus. For the reveal of Susbedo, that's definetely something important, but for everything else, it's going to 100% be mentioned in the story again. Albedo, and specifically Rhinedottir are very important characters so this will be brought up in a future storyline. Not only that but Gold = Rhinedottir and Albedo being a Homunculus were already very popular theories since the game *heavily* hints at those two things, the event was just a confirmation to something that was already obvious. I do hope they bring those events back though, don't get me wrong. Especially The Golden Apple Archipelago one, since it was a limited time area as well.

[@Evgenia00]

@@lawfulgoodnun1646 I think this time was a "quick start", you can skip Albedo's story quest. On default - game think that you completed it. But it highly recommended not to do so, for better story experience. So, it's a player choice really 🤷‍♀️

[@BearToonStudios]

I literally write stories for games, and I can say without a doubt that every bit of long-term content these days has been drawn out, including film, because their afraid of the ending coming too soon with all the Gacha systems. But with final fantasy they aways just made another game. I remember those quests and honestly, although i didn't pay too much attention the first time. I ended up skipping dialogue which I regretted later because Genshin looks simple, but it's really lore heavy. so you have to pay attention.

[@charlesconradgodinez8101]

Hoyo should add a system where you can run past events on a click of a button or tab. Example Granblue Fantasy has that system that runs old and past events with a click of a button. There you can select which event you miss that you wanna play, that system not only lets you enjoy the events that you miss but also receive the rewards specifically for that event. Heck, I wouldn't mind downloading more data for past events just to receive those rewards I miss out.

[@aion425]

THE STATUE IS THERE TO HEAL MY HU TAO SO SHE DEAL SHIT DAMAGE! AAAAAAAAAAAA Also regarding the story being for kids and not being told as Dark Souls, a lot of the world's information and history are found in item flavor text.

[@betobarbero3642]

I disagree with him about events, if they don't have important lore then they're bland, I hope they one day add a way to replay them even with no rewards but don't ask to make events not lore heavy since that's killing them and if he doesn't want to cancel Hu Tao's charged attacks just uh don't cancel them? Abyss is 1% of Genshin's game time

[@dropmelon]

I don’t think jump-cancelling is the reason he doesn’t like her gameplay. It’s the charge attack itself. The jump-cancelling just compounds his lack of enjoyment.

[@betobarbero3642]

@@dropmelon I think that would be very picky from him but it's up to each one

[@dropmelon]

@@betobarbero3642 Eh, I wouldn’t call it picky. What is and isn’t fun gameplay is subjective. Charge attack gameplay isn’t for everyone.

[@betobarbero3642]

@@dropmelon I use my Hu Tao with normal attacks mostly, Hu Tao can be used for normal, charged or nuke builds, I can accept when somebody tells me that a character isn't fun when they are monotonous, having only 1 skill that is relevant but not liking characters who offer more than 1 type of gameplay is being picky imo yet I can respect theirs

[@dropmelon]

@@betobarbero3642 That’s a weird point to make. All characters have normals, charge attack, skill and ult. If someone finds a character is fun to play with, they will play them regardless of how optimal it is. Sometimes people find that certain characters just doesn’t feel fun to play with no matter what. Necrit in this case finds Candace carry much more fun than Hu Tao.

[@legndery]

The problem is people are speed running the game, now people who were already playing for 1yr or so, Hoyo needs those people to continue playing. Also the updates are done every month, so it doesn't feel like 10hours of grinding.

[@Oxenia01]

Important side quests(character quests) are also voice acted in genshin

[@ZeeCH_Music]

I'm so annoyed that some text-scenario can't be skipped or at cinematic can be replayed. if your side quest is just to kill 20 monsters for whatever reason, you need to finish the endless dialogue first. I just set the text in auto-mode then alt tab , its annoying that the text won't progress if you need to answer a question in the game which is really not necessary.

[@riotangel4701]

What's worse is some quest dialogue are just text that _flies by_ while running around and fighting in the open world. Nobody's got time to read that when there're enemies actively trying to kill you.

[@TurtleChad1]

He didn't beat Genshin Impact...... Genshin Impact beat him

[@ripme123l7]

ESPECIALLY during world quests

[@andizulfan84]

Yeah but for archon and story quest at least it's got voice over but world quest there is no voice over and the dialogue disappear really quick

[@nore5992]

Theres a time where there is a side quest on island i think its Tataratsuna, where thunder is always frequent. Where i'm in middle of talk to this guy and sudenlly Thunder blasted me into the Gorge while the dialouge is still on. And i die, i was stoned at wtf has been going on. But yeah that was such an unexpected thing.

[@megamcee]

That's where Genshin's super easy difficulty really helps. I usually just spam any buttons while just paying attention to the dialogue lol

[@pepita2437]

While spending money in Genshin is very encouraged, and that is the intended outcome by the developers, you don't NEED any of the new characters. You can beat the game with the starter characters you get for free.

[@Jianxin-sensei]

What he claims is frankly impossible. You can play this game for like 150 hours at max to catch up with the story, then you can play like 10 minutes a day.

[@ThisLuvee]

I don't know if he min maxed, but for people who do, there's ton of 1-3 star artifacts farming route that take hours to complete that resets daily. There's also chest/puzzles route to get all the primogems the game have to offer. So yeah, you can definitely play the game for over 700+ hours.

[@dylandumont7046]

I saw that idubbz vid mr.editor. bring that ahit bsck

[@zenixkiryu]

"Thankfully, Hoyoverse realized forcing characters into the story isnt a great idea." Yoimiya's 2nd story quest, which had litterally no plot relevance: I'm about to end this man's whole career.

[@awaustinl3184]

15:00 He talks about the value or lack of value to play a game where people can pay for massive leads. But that's the whole thing. Whales get value from gameplay knowing other have to spend weeks to grind for what they get in days. And f2p me included get value from gameplay by knowing whales have to spend however much money to get to where they are. Later in the game with c6 characters and r5 5 star weapons this disparity is bigger but there aren't any leaderboards or anything to compare yourself to. Even if you did see a goated whale you wouldn't be discouraged from playing because genshin is also A REALLY FUN GAME.

[@Kaltsit-]

It’s funny how the only P2W is in the Spiral Abyss, the game mode that I refuse to play cuz it’s not fun.

[@randyrandom3358]

1y late but Spiral Abyss is very f2p friendly lol Yes, it's challenging, but skipping it is just losing out in primos. If you don't enter meta you won't have any reason but to accept that it's p2w garbage (which is your fault, since you never actually tried to 36* it once.)

[@F1rstWorldNomaD]

When they said "Good luck with that" about Spiral Abyss, they meant Good luck 36 starring it. Just clearing floor 12 can be tricky but it CAN almost always be done. Getting all the 36 stars is a whole different ball game. That TOO can be done with f2p, Ive even seen people do it with the starter team. But it takes alot of skill and knowledge of the game. You need to first of all know exactly what to do, what order to do it, when to do it and where to do it. Meanwhile you also need to dodge VERY well. The stars are time based for the most part. If you have a f2p team, you have significantly lower damage hence it takes longer. This also means you cant afford being kbocked down, you lose lile 5 srconds every time and on top of that you lose ALOT of damage output if you happen to get knocked down in the middle of a rotation. If you have a p2w team, you can get tossed around the arena like a dirty sock and still make it. Youll also most likely have good shielders if you pay, completely negating knock downs if you use it correctly.

[@darrensmith245]

I’ve played Genshin from the start currently AR 57, have around 40 characters. Genshin started out with a different concept and devolved into a casual mini game experience but the core gameplay has to be the combat mechanics, which to me has become the main draw for the game. A main DPS is an on field unit that deals the highest damage in the team but uses procs or reactions to maximise damages from other team members. When you can understand this combat principle Genshin becomes a really unique gameplay experience, so far not copied yet. As for a lot of the story content and open world, this can be an annoying chore.

[@ZanathKariashi]

Allegedly they're gonna add a way to do the early Event-Based story stuff at some point. it's just not ready yet.

[@pretty.billy.]

I truly believe asmondgold plays genshin on the low.. he says things all the time that only a player would say

[@SnakeTGK]

Just imagine Asmon first genshin stream, he just shows it's 1 year old account AR 56 he played on the side ^^

[@peted2783]

The way Genshin is ran feels like the devs care more about the money than the game, which is fair enough. I still play the game because for the most part I have fun while playing.

[@SuperOvidiuMihai]

And here we have another example of Mr Asmon stealing content and ""reacting" by saying "omg". Such an insigtful commentary

[@gazzamate2973]

the idubbz video just got deleted?

[@Kojiro3210]

700hrs is still not enough to give a proper review to a live service game that has many more expansions and changes that will inevitably be made. Also staying full f2p in hoyo games is just self torture. Spend at least $5 for the welken every 30 days. Thats 3000 pirogems over 30 days youre just letting go. its just $5...

[@OlBlO2l2lllZ]

That 10 hours of Set up is nothing compared to an almost 1 Year of waiting for the Inazuma 2.0 update. He is only saying that because he played it in 1 sitting.