What sank Bengaluru’s boat, politics, misgovernance & why our cities suck

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Жыл бұрын

As India's tech & start-up capital is disrupted by floods, waterlogging & heavy rains, in episode 1069 of #CutTheClutter, Shekhar Gupta explains the reasons behind the problems and lessons on city governance & Indian politics where the crisis of India's urban governance is rooted. He also explains how political instability in Karnataka has led to no planning & implementation.
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@ThePrintIndia
@ThePrintIndia Жыл бұрын
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@nishantshrivastava9674
@nishantshrivastava9674 Жыл бұрын
And i thought South India is more politically aware, people are more mature but after listening now I know it's jst an empty vessel.. No better than corrupt North indian states. The only difference is South Indian politicians provided incentives to set up industry so they can loot more of it🙄🙄
@gangadhardanavinamane4483
@gangadhardanavinamane4483 Жыл бұрын
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@sanjayranjan360
@sanjayranjan360 Жыл бұрын
Cities will continue to suck as long as educated people will refrain from voting in municipal elections.
@abhijitdey1320
@abhijitdey1320 Жыл бұрын
Dear Shekhar ji, being a fan of The Print, may I ask you why don't you use both sides of a page? 😬
@anupamh
@anupamh Жыл бұрын
Spot on analysis, but when did Shekarji started criticizing Modi and BJP govt? Glad he able to pull a straightforward analysis on Bengaluru flood issue and also presented deeper insight report behind the manor issues with metro cities in India.
@devarajkrishnamoorthy4265
@devarajkrishnamoorthy4265 Жыл бұрын
Got this information makes lot of sense - Bengaluru is situated at approximately 3000 feet above mean sea level. When it rains unless the water is retained the rain water will flow down to lower levels. When Three generations of Kempegowdas built layered lakes they kept this aspect in mind, hence they interconnected the lakes through an excellent network of canals called Rajkaluves so that when the lakes in higher elevations filled out then the water flowed to the lakes in lower elevation. To understand Bengaluru’s water management system, it is important to understand the city’s topography. Bengaluru has three major natural valley/drainage zones, and three minor ones. The major valleys are Vrishabhavathi Valley, Koramangala-Challaghatta Valley and Hebbal Valley. The minor valleys are Tavarekere, Kathriguppe and Arkavathi. When these valleys are blocked by mindless town planning or lack of it.. and aided by highly corrupt combination of political, bureaucratic lobby and greedy real estate thugs then where does water go ?
@kkk66969
@kkk66969 Жыл бұрын
Too much sense for comment section of yt
@claymadness
@claymadness Жыл бұрын
Fantastic comment and unusually insightful for YT. Thanks for the explanation, had no idea about the well engineered foundations of the city. It’s sad that it’s come to this.
@devarajkrishnamoorthy4265
@devarajkrishnamoorthy4265 Жыл бұрын
I got this forwarded from a good source.
@lightboi9752
@lightboi9752 Жыл бұрын
@@devarajkrishnamoorthy4265 I didn't know that Bengaluru had valleys....
@roredd7493
@roredd7493 Жыл бұрын
Only flows our politicians and administrators are bothered about are their cashflows. People are sitting ducks bearing the brunt of corrupt governance, and politicians can always blame climate change.
@anilamencherla5681
@anilamencherla5681 Жыл бұрын
I am a Bangaorean ....fantastic episode. Eye opener. But then your channel"s all episodes are so informative and unbiased. Example of a responsible Fourth Estate. Thanks.
@ThePrintIndia
@ThePrintIndia Жыл бұрын
Hi Anil, Thank you for appreciating our journalism.
@mikaa2004
@mikaa2004 Жыл бұрын
When the fuk did we start using Bangorean
@tapemaj
@tapemaj Жыл бұрын
In short India’s metro cities are cash cows and that’s where the big fat corruption begins . Salubrious Bangalore has fallen into such infrastructural disarray . Saddens me …
@scienceaweek
@scienceaweek Жыл бұрын
S M Krishna was the best CM over last 30 years. Rest all were into loot and scoot or hardly any conviction. Even his own party members hated him for his well mannered behaviour.
@fretted4life
@fretted4life Жыл бұрын
@@scienceaweek Congress workers hating their state level leaders for being there on merit is business as usual. What made SM Krishna so special? Didn't Siddaramaiah open Indira Canteen providing meals at subsidized rates?.
@scienceaweek
@scienceaweek Жыл бұрын
@@fretted4life I agree Indira Canteen was good step by him in limited areas of Bangalore, and? But development of Bangalore and effectiveness of Lokayukta anti-corruption programs were great during S M Krishna. Though I was college student back then, I still remember most of the teachers back then were great fans of him. We used to see frequent / weekly news of raids and inspections. If you remember, intentionally Lokayuktha's power was sabotaged by later governments for the operational challenges posed to these politicians official dhandha.
@sundarkumar-qy8cn
@sundarkumar-qy8cn Жыл бұрын
Such a bold and straightforward analysis! Kudos to Shekhar ji and ThePrint..... Only sensible, neutral and true news house left in India
@ThePrintIndia
@ThePrintIndia Жыл бұрын
Hi Sundar, Thank you for your kind words. We hope you keep tuning into CTCs daily.
@vivekanandholla6730
@vivekanandholla6730 Жыл бұрын
As a resident of Bengaluru, a kannadiga and also part of that technology sector, I have seen Bengaluru develop completely uncontrolled in the last 20 years. I remember when i started in the workforce in 2002, Bengaluru had a lot more open spaces and was not so crowded. It was also that land was not so badly mismanaged. Corruption has caused land grabbing and development on river beds . Raja kaluve (the main storm water drainage system) has been encroached upon big time. Bengaluru is becoming an eye sore and functionally becoming unbearable to work and commute. It is bad advertising for the silicon valley of india. I will not leave the city but I will heartfeltly wish that some change occurs. Thank you for the video
@savithakl7577
@savithakl7577 Жыл бұрын
Our greed for real estate at the cost of lakes. BBMP approving buildings in lakes and storm water drains for greed of money. A pensioner paradise or garden city was destroyed by politicians when Bangalore with its cold weather became silicon valley to IT and ITES companies, people who worked here bought real estate which builders sold killing lakes. Bangalore IT belt built on lake beds are only flooded not entire Bangalore. Our PM says no corruption with Double engine growth. Bangalore pays 48% tax with direct taxation on salaried class but gets less than 10% of kitty for Infrastructure.
@banestock
@banestock Жыл бұрын
Could not have said it better! We as citizens need to cut these rascal politician out of the equation!
@k-map224
@k-map224 Жыл бұрын
Try to be logical. Even development is required for any society to improve and most of the time it comes at the cost of the environment but what is important is even greed needs to be sustainable and should not cross a limit while that is not the case here. Bangalore was a city of lakes and most of our iconic landmarks were built on lakes like the chinnaswamy stadium but the problem that we have had for the last few years was the Nexus between our politicians and real estate companies that have got overboard and given approvals to build everywhere with no limits and hence we get to see such things happening now.
@surajm4547
@surajm4547 Жыл бұрын
@@k-map224 Nobody is against development... it's the greed of the real estate crooks that is the problem. THIS IS NOT WHAT DEVELOPMENT LOOKS LIKE.
@banestock
@banestock Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@mythsur7
@mythsur7 Жыл бұрын
BBMP should be dissolved, they are a curse for this city
@daddashikamani
@daddashikamani Жыл бұрын
Fantastic, SG. As a resident of Bangalore, I echo every word. I have never voted in BBMP elections. I don't know anyone who has. I need to start going to ward committee meetings and do my bit. People of Bangalore need to participate in the democratic process. The same goes with people of all major Indian cities. Yes, Bangalore, Mumbai and Chennai shouldn't be Capitals. Let the power lie elsewhere. One city can't be everything - Capital, Economic hub, biggest urban space. We need to "separate the concerns" as we call it in Software Development. (Being a Bangalorean, yes, I am a coder)
@stalinsampras
@stalinsampras Жыл бұрын
lol bro you think people are the problem and not his corrupt politician who literally steals money from all this public project
@together1882
@together1882 Жыл бұрын
People should take part in election process itself. Just voting will not change anything when everyone u can vote for are not serious about you.
@together1882
@together1882 Жыл бұрын
@@stalinsampras politicians too come from people like us only. Governed is people and governed by is people only. We are only responsible for everything collectively
@pritisingh-xy2xi
@pritisingh-xy2xi Жыл бұрын
@@together1882 true ...voting is not the end all of citizens responsibility....it starts for there...people in power have to be held accountable citizens need to stand & fight ..... enough is enough
@together1882
@together1882 Жыл бұрын
@@pritisingh-xy2xi people should also compete for that power, y allow the corrupt to take the position and then ask for accountability. If one feels he has no desire for any corruption then should go out and fight elections as well. Now only corrupt among us are willing to take the risk and go out into politics and good ppl are like it is dirty game I want to be peaceful and later the filth will overflow and come into our houses and then we cry
@chothazonienu3836
@chothazonienu3836 Жыл бұрын
The sad part is that everyone is chilled about the sad state of affairs. Listen to a discussion on TV and people seemed to have resigned to their fate
@scienceaweek
@scienceaweek Жыл бұрын
Everyone is so chilled because, every one has been part of loot and scoot over 2 decades. Every mafia was hand in gloves with every political parties. It's well known that 95% of IT parks, big apartments belong to politicians.
@chothazonienu3836
@chothazonienu3836 Жыл бұрын
@@scienceaweek Corruption is a big problem in Karnataka. The contractors were protesting that cut money was too high, not that corruption shouldn’t be there. Am not giving a pass to contractors of course. With rainfall becoming more unpredictable due to climate change, we will be having the same conversation in a few years, in fact even next year
@scienceaweek
@scienceaweek Жыл бұрын
@@chothazonienu3836 True. In the past there were few minor instances of flooding. But now things are reaching limit. Corruption, encroachment of lakes and negligence all have led to this. Funny part about cut money. They were not protesting about it, rather about how high the comission was. 😂
@offred6013
@offred6013 Жыл бұрын
BJP is creating talent mukt bharat . Talented Youth is eager to move out asap because of state of our politics
@mohank3463
@mohank3463 Жыл бұрын
Sekhar, could you pl do one episode on AP? During Chandra Babu Naidu's rule, he had conceived a new Green field city Amaravathi with world class infrastructure by acquiring 30,000 acres of land without paying a Rupee with the most innovative concept of sharing the developed land between Govt and land owners. Though , the capital city Amaravathi had seen lot of progress humanly possible . But, since CBN had lost 2019 Elections to Jagan Reddy, since then it was all reversing of decisions and total destruction of the state including destruction of all Institutions. Why I am bringing up this topic here is after Jagan Reddy took over , he wanted to reverse the decision of developing green field city Amaravathi by bringing in New concept of 3 capitals. Since then not a single brick has been used in construction of Amaravathi. Center also maintained silence and remained a silent spectator as it suits them politically to support the most corrupted politician the country has even seen. Sekharji , could you please do an episode on State of AP forthetotzl destruction, it has been going thro for the past 3.5 years?
@satyanarayanavarma857
@satyanarayanavarma857 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Mohan I hope you are not looking at broad view of what Cbn has done. His scheme of thing's are good for media and graphics but jn reality Amaravathi is not a place where you build city look at the real estate scam that happened need of extra foundation because of black soil, flood prone area and most importantly the density of population to cost of building is relatively high.
@mohanrambai
@mohanrambai Жыл бұрын
Because of CBN Cash for Vote Scam and his alleged involvement he ran away in middle of Night from Common Capital of 10 years Hyderabad fearing his Arrest. Amaravathi is a Rich Fertile land of 3 crops a year and flood prone area if CBN was really a visionary He would have gone with the Siva RamaKrishna Committee report. The Farm lands where not given voluntarily they where Shown False promises of developing lands and value sharing by the way the Farmers where promised to receive there share before 2019 elections but none got a rupee or developed Land People who did not give lands voluntarily where threatened. CBN was Such a visionary he should have struck with the Special Status demand rather than agree for special package and later getting Fooled by Central Government. When in Power instead of focusing on administration he took in 23 YSRCP MLA's and even made few of them as Ministers which is a sword to the back in Democracy. All these Bad decisions back fired on CBN due to which the Party lost the elections so miserable. TDP has not reviewed any of the mistakes until today so the chances of them coming back to power is very slim. Its only due to bad Governance and decisions TDP got routed in 2019 elections not because of YSRCP.
@mohank3463
@mohank3463 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mr. Satyanarayana for your response. It looks like you are not a resident of AP and got influenced by Sakshi plus media channels . I personally visited Amaravathi prior to 2019 Elections just to have a feel of the progress of construction there. It is not graphics, many Multi storeyed Office buildings have reached about 70 % progress. No single corruption case has been proved so far. Pl don't fall prey to organised and motivated false propaganda by YCP. About foundation issues also, it was already clarified that IIT, Madras has not given any such report. Had CBN come to power in 2019, he would have ensured completion of major facilities in Amaravathi by 2024 and Amaravathi would have become a symbol of growth and prosperity and become a cash cow for the state of AP just like what Cyberabad has become for Telengana.
@mohank3463
@mohank3463 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Mohan Krishna, How long people focus their energies in character assassination of CBN? If he is involved in all all these cases , why he is not chargesheeted so far? Even if he is involved in vote for note scam, it is a much much lesser crime compared to someone chargesheeted for corruption cases involving Rs.40,000 Crores and ruining the state in all respects continuing the corruption at a much bigger levels. The issue is whether to respect continuity of Governance or take decisions at your own whims and fancies. I am really amazed even after seeing total destruction of state in all respects, how someone who is literate instead of questioning Mr. Jagan Reddy and his Govt for all their corruption and wrong governance , you try to find fault with opposition leader. It is perfectly fine if CBN is in power and question his decisions. It is the propaganda of YCP to divert the attention from real issues facing the state by character assassination of CBN. It is like if someone is scoring 95 % in an exam, you always question him about those 5 marks.
@Deveshi.A.
@Deveshi.A. Жыл бұрын
Mohan K , Amaravati is not a place for capital city , Sivarama Krishnan committee clearly stated the reasons why it shouldn't be , CBN bulldozed the decission and went ahead what are all you said is just yellow media rantings , TDP is didn't even win single corporation in the entire state of AP including Guntur and Vijayawada city's and also it lost Panchayat elections even in Amaravati area and it last all municipal towns except two ( Tadipatri TDP won because of JC Brothers ) this is reality of public opinion in AP but you guys got media and money power so keep on ranting every where
@aniljain8971
@aniljain8971 Жыл бұрын
Finally, a CTC which helps us understand the “revenue model” of our corrupt politicians. Would really appreciate a detailed insight in a future episode the overall “business” of politics (to the extent possible). The biggest sources of their funds and the biggest avenues where they deploy and how they vary for a few large states.
@bangbong1215
@bangbong1215 Жыл бұрын
All the US state capitals are in smaller cities. Most people do not even know Canada’s capital Ottawa. It is high time the state capitals ( as well as the national capital) be moved. The British have left us long back and we don't need to copy them blindly. India is a much bigger country than UK and moving political capitals to smaller cities would also create some diversity in growth as well as free up much needed land in the current capitals all of which are severely overpopulated
@cutekitten4351
@cutekitten4351 Жыл бұрын
They are building new capital complex and parliament for next 100 yrs, how will they transfer now?
@rutvikrs
@rutvikrs Жыл бұрын
Of all the countries and continents, North America has the worst urban planning. We can't afford (ecologically not economically) to have a car based urban planning. Also the reason the administrative capital and commercial capital are separate is because of the political structure, not as a strategy to spread the load.
@bangbong1215
@bangbong1215 Жыл бұрын
@@rutvikrs but it does help in reducing the load. And no one is asking to do it overnight. These things take time but we do have an example in Gandhinagar although the reasons it was built are different. Our big cities are almost unliveable and it will only get worse unless some drastic decisions are taken. It only makes sense to move the segment which comparatively does the least value add( but takes a lot of reaources) else where. India has the population density without the landmass of a US or Canada, so the concern about car based urban planning is unfounded.you will have enough density to create effective mass transit systems in most tier 2 and tier 3 cities.
@bangbong1215
@bangbong1215 Жыл бұрын
@@cutekitten4351 the govt had done a much bigger blunder in demonetization and people forgot it . This will also be forgotten. The NCR already has 35 million people. How much more can it keep expanding. The infrastructure will just collapse if Haryana doesn't create its own economic centers areas like kaithal or ambala and UP doesnt do it with Lucknow or Kanpur. you just cannot keep extending the same resources beyond a limit
@yj9032
@yj9032 Жыл бұрын
@@rutvikrs even in that case, Indian urban planning is way worse than the US.
@amardave84
@amardave84 Жыл бұрын
This is what happens without city planning. Even Houston got flooded because of lack of adequate planning. Too much asphalt not enough green spaces to absorb rain water into ground.
@bhavintoliabg4946
@bhavintoliabg4946 Жыл бұрын
Having been born & brought up in Bangalore since 3 generations, and having dealt with people within the Govt & corporation, IMHO this is situation is because vast majority of Govt officials (whether it is BBMP/BESCOM/BWSSB/KHB/KIADB etc) are comprised of natives who have gotten their jobs because of them being a relative of someone coupled with bribery. They're deeply unethical and really do behave like uncouth goons wielding power to simply extort money from the citizenry. They've also no real technical expertise & are largely incompetent to hold their jobs. The private sector wouldn't even pay 20% of what the Govt pays them. The true reason on them insisting on conversing (whether speaking or in writing) in Kannada is NOT because of any love for the land, but because they want to escape being held accountable to any non-native who is demanding answers. The attitude of the Govt itself is to be adversarial with anyone who holds them accountable. This is true of all political parties, be it BJP/Congress/JD(S) or anyone. We really can't fix it because citizens don't come out to vote. Voter apathy is such that almost no one questions them & holds them accountable - largely because its a sufficiently undesirable hassle to do so. When Siddaramaiah was the CM & he wanted to do a political rally, he openly & candidly said that city dwellers facing traffic problems are neither his problem, nor will they ever figure in any priority simply because we're not voters. Civil contracts being given to those offering highest commission is frankly pragmatically understandable, but the malice is so deep, that the same roads are dug up & re-done over and over again (sometimes it is laying/replacement/clean BWSSB pipe / Optical Fiber Cable / BESCOM wiring / drainage work, all this not once, but 5-7 times) during every term of the govt. After a few weeks this anger will fizzle down, and people will continue to drudge thru the suffocating apathy. Rich will buy bigger cars that can drive over the potholes, even metaphorically so. The rest are too busy being the urban-poor trying to make ends meet. This is how democracy works within our system & it is deliberately created like that by design - so as to tire, exhaust, divide and disempower the citizens.
@tsrini68
@tsrini68 Жыл бұрын
Really u born & bought up in Bengaluru? What were u doing when other cities in India flooded? Whom they employ?? Natives or from foreign countries?? Natives will rule thr land & it is thr freedom. If we dont have technical expertise thn your mind knows only Mughals & how many wives they had. FYI.. Karnataka was almost developed country at 1950s. Go back to your state & improve pathetic state first instead of eating here. We are well off without migrants.
@anuragranjan8202
@anuragranjan8202 Жыл бұрын
@it's_blueberry gacha Mr Modi's Smart City programme has turned into a farce.....so, don't expect anything from him.
@bmmilind4333
@bmmilind4333 Жыл бұрын
Mumbai and Bangalore both cities are suffering due to poor municipal services . Both cities deserve much better investment and focus on infrastructure. Delhi has benefitted after becoming a state and Mumbai and Bangalore are suffering as these are capitals of states ? Why can't centre push state governments and central authorities to invest more and make some mega infrastructure plans ?
@dashmeetsingh9679
@dashmeetsingh9679 Жыл бұрын
Actually what most people dont realize is that Shiela Dikshit government enacted 2022 Delhi plan in 2000s I guess. That future thinking plus same plan was continued and extended by Kejriwal. That improved infra a lot.
@bmmilind4333
@bmmilind4333 Жыл бұрын
@@dashmeetsingh9679 central government also invested heavily through commonwealth and other key infrastructure projects
@rajasecarane
@rajasecarane Жыл бұрын
Among the southern states, I feel Kerala has that distinction - Trivandrum is the capital and Kochi is the commercial hub. I don't know if it does any good but at least from the perspective of over population in one city it does good and will also lead to having better infrastructure in at least two cities as opposed to just one. See neighboring TN, there's a huge gap in both infrastructure and population between Chennai and Coimbatore - it's two largest cities. Why should administration, commercial and entertainment centers all be concentrated in one place. Distribution would lead to better development.
@rutvikrs
@rutvikrs Жыл бұрын
That is because Kerala's development is not organic and it is a political society on top of it. Any organic development leads to centralisation, Tokyo, Seoul and even Chinese cities in communist China.
@rajasecarane
@rajasecarane Жыл бұрын
@@rutvikrs but isn't there a role for the government also to play? For e.g. there was a big opportunity for Coimbatore in the IT sector due to the good weather, lower costs and availability of talent and many good educational and engineering institutions. But it did not materialize as expected. Reason: not enough infrastructure needed for the companies to come in. Poor/ congested roads, metro rail projects dropped due to change in govt., airport expansion stalled for decades, no big hotels, etc. Most companies went back to Chennai. Even those that started operations kept it to a minimum. Infrastructure is needed for organic development.
@rutvikrs
@rutvikrs Жыл бұрын
@@rajasecarane 1. My point is not targeting broad infrastructure but the idea that govt should separate aspects of society like industry, government, services, trade and art. 2. Coimbatore just like Mysuru has a basic issue, lack of managerial class. If physical infrastructure was the basic issue, then we would have seen every company exit Bengaluru in the 2010s. 3. Govt can enact "pull" policies by enhancing infrastructure but not "push" policies because it's natural for companies to collect in areas of expertise depth and auxiliary industry forms around it. Bengaluru has become a startup hub because it has a huge number of Subject matter experts and management graduates. It's easier to set up new companies here. Pushing them to Mysuru or Coimbatore has no appeal to them as they will have to come back to Bengaluru, Chennai, Pune or Noida when they need expertise.
@rajasecarane
@rajasecarane Жыл бұрын
@@rutvikrs I agree with you... And as you said, infrastructure is not good even in Bangalore or Chennai or other large cities, they are just better than other tier 2 cities but definitely not what cities of that magnitude require. Coimbatore is my home town and it's a city with a great potential. However it's unable to realize that due to lack of infrastructure. I'm not expecting it to be a startup hub or a major center like Bangalore but it definitely can be a center for IT operations and ITES. Forget even IT, there are a lot of MSMEs that are there into mfg and exports- automobile parts, pumps, wet grinders, textiles, etc. Yet look at the Coimbatore Jn. Rlwy stn. and airport. Definitely not enough to cater to the requirements of the industries that already exist there. They've been begging for decades to improve connectivity so they can trade well and be more competitive in terms of costs etc. But progress has been very very slow. Some windows of opportunities if missed are lost forever. Hence my frustration. Kerala is my native- there although not many industries, they've kind of done well with spreading out the urbanization and developing infrastructure. 3 intl. airports, 4th one coming up, metro rail in Kochi (both Kochi and Coimbatore got the proposal at the same time from the center but when govt changed in TN, the new govt back then dropped the proposal (just because of the usual vengeance between dmk and admk). Kerala doesn't have an organic industrial climate but if an opportunity comes, they are prepared to grab it. Also I believe spreading out the infrastructure development also helps reduce the urban- rural gap and inequalities. Thus I always agree with SG when he talks about the lack of urban planning in India. 😊 Edit: sorry about my long comments. I just got triggered. You're very insightful too.
@kiranm8817
@kiranm8817 Жыл бұрын
Sir, Kochi was flooded a week back due to rampant unplanned urbanisation. Even there boats were deployed for rescue. I think you should know more about the issue before commenting.....
@rajraj601
@rajraj601 Жыл бұрын
Bangalore was never planned to be a Big City with so many people as today .. Corruption yes yes yes but historically the City itself had no big roads or infrastructure planned ever .. it was destined to be a retire paradise !
@nageshrajan5633
@nageshrajan5633 Жыл бұрын
These points about Bengaluru's pathetic state were covered by SG sir a few years ago on CTC
@srujithreddy335
@srujithreddy335 Жыл бұрын
Nagesh indoor is new city Bangalore is unplanned and old city.
@realhumphreyappleby
@realhumphreyappleby Жыл бұрын
So much for the Smart Cities Mission. I'm 22 now and probably we'll get our first proper smart city sometime in my twilight years.
@priortokaraew7569
@priortokaraew7569 Жыл бұрын
Most likely. If you are lucky. If you get real competent, sophisticated leadership.
@Phoenix-lf3kf
@Phoenix-lf3kf Жыл бұрын
You are being too optimistic:))
@rutvikrs
@rutvikrs Жыл бұрын
@@pajtmvorvndeifneif i think the effort was sincere. No Indian initiative can be planned or executed when the parameters are uncertain.
@sagarpaul7934
@sagarpaul7934 Жыл бұрын
@@pajtmvorvndeifneif no, it is not a Jumla, in my hometown karnal , smartcity work has been progressing since, 2017, but the problem is that , there were 78 projects under smart city project in karnal whereas just 12 of them completed and 22 are under construction and 13 projects are ready for tender and still there is lot to do , smart city project speed has been very slow but you can't called it jumla as a whole. And it's is due to lack of accountability of babus that were associated with this project . They haven't fired any of them in my city and you can see this in every indian city and state.
@vish3161
@vish3161 Жыл бұрын
Lucky you. Iam 61 and haven't a hope in hell ...
@ankitrawat927
@ankitrawat927 Жыл бұрын
One of the founders of the company I work for, a French guy, said that he saw funny images coming from Bengaluru with a mild laugh. The world is watching and Bengaluru ain't looking pretty.
@juPi05tEr
@juPi05tEr Жыл бұрын
It's the real world, people have seen extremes everywhere. Last year, the whole of Texas had no power for almost a week due to excessive snow. Bay area will be covered by ashes almost every year due to wildfires. It happens everywhere, mother nature can be furious.
@rohitp2283
@rohitp2283 Жыл бұрын
This is called in-depth analysis. Good one Shekhar ji 👍
@surajm4547
@surajm4547 Жыл бұрын
He's talking about politics instead of the flooding! He took so long to come to the point! Idiotic guy!
@ganeshnayak2732
@ganeshnayak2732 Жыл бұрын
Really idiot? For the last 75 years we have only done so-called " In depth analysis ". During that time China and ASEAN countries marched ahead. Get yourself educated, moron.
@VeeraForBharat
@VeeraForBharat Жыл бұрын
Love the fact how Sekhar Sir clearly explains politicians make money primarily with Land related transactions. We all know the openness of the loot but are responsible for it indirectly but cannot do anything about it!!
@GururajBN
@GururajBN Жыл бұрын
As a Bangalorean, I must say that you have succinctly captured all the problems with Bengaluru city. This is a fair and accurate presentation. The CMs who hold Bengaluru Development portfolio are not at all Bangaloreans. For them, it is a camp to make money until they lose power. Karnataka is definitely a very corrupt State. Since I do not know other States, I cannot say it is the most corrupt State. Especially, the defectors from Cogress who brought BJP to power are the main culprits. Barring two persons, I do not think there is a honest minister in the Karnataka Council of Ministers. Bengaluru has 28 MLAs. According to the Actress Ramya who head the media cell for Congress, 26 of them are engaged in real estate business. Law makers in Karantaka are actually businessmen who use the position of being law makers to augment their business interests. Little wonder that one particular minister in Bommai's cabinet is worth over 1000 crore rupees. Poor quality of civil works executed means more repeat business on account of repair and rectification work. So, no contractor executes quality work in Bengaluru. Within last twenty years, I do not think that any quality work has been executed. Even the Metro Rail columns are showing cracks.
@davidalexsebastiank6250
@davidalexsebastiank6250 Жыл бұрын
Problem is with Corrupt Telugu Contractors in Bangalore they eat up the funds and execute the works with a meager fund after eating up sum amount
@davidalexsebastiank6250
@davidalexsebastiank6250 Жыл бұрын
@Munian Sekar out of 100%, politician loot only 10% whereas Contractors loot 40% and execute the works with those remaining 50% sum amount 😳, In Bangalore 99% of the Civil works are executed by Telugu Contractors
@davidalexsebastiank6250
@davidalexsebastiank6250 Жыл бұрын
@Munian Sekar Even there are Telugu Speaking politicians in all three parties in karnataka
@davidalexsebastiank6250
@davidalexsebastiank6250 Жыл бұрын
@Munian Sekar Those illegal encroachments & construction approvals was given permission by Corrupt Bangalore corporation officials in late 1980's, 1990's and early 2000's
@chaitanyavinjamuri
@chaitanyavinjamuri Жыл бұрын
Thank you sekhar ji, i strongly feel you should be in the parliament highlighting all these issues. Who will fight for the citizens if not eminent people like you.
@bugged1212
@bugged1212 Жыл бұрын
The tech and startups needs to move out of Bengaluru, there's no shortage of cities in India to take up the load. Karnataka needs to develop other cities like Maharashtra has done.
@ramanboolchandani
@ramanboolchandani Жыл бұрын
Gupta Ji, this has to be the best CTC of this year(at least for me*), I learned something that I had no idea about till now but it felt so obvious after watching it. Side note- I live in Bhopal, Madhya Pradesh and it's a reasonably well-planned and very liveable capital while the commercial capital of the state is Indore.
@manishmehta9736
@manishmehta9736 Жыл бұрын
In today's connected world, it is sheer foolishness to have workshare centers, call centers and service offices in cities like Delhi, Bangalore, Hyderabad etc. where cost of living itself is 40-50% higher than Tier 2/3 cities and also additional hardships of travel, pollution, etc etc. All offices where there is no direct client interaction should be ideally in Tier 2/3 cities, which will also reduce cost of services significantly and make companies more competitive. In today's conditions, many Tier 2 and 3 cities have almost same infrastructure, access and connectivity ad metros. The mentality of large IT companies has to change for sure.
@yoda5084
@yoda5084 Жыл бұрын
I agree with the political instability point about Karnataka but cities having political stability like Mumbai, Chennai too have flooding. Personally I think that there is so much emphasis on rural development that development of cities are deliberately neglected and become a source of passive income for politicians and bureaucrats
@brainiac1595
@brainiac1595 Жыл бұрын
So much emphasis on rural development? If what we're observing is 'emphatic' then god save us.
@lazydamsel
@lazydamsel Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Sonydev19
@Sonydev19 Жыл бұрын
Real estate is the problem, countless trees were cut in whitefield to build IT buildings and apartments. Malls in every corner. People are greedy and buying homes in apartments built on lakes. All this has led to disaster.
@rbansal427
@rbansal427 Жыл бұрын
Who gave permission to these real estates to come up?
@pings007
@pings007 Жыл бұрын
@@rbansal427 corrupt officials and govt ministers
@mikeydmz1588
@mikeydmz1588 Жыл бұрын
@@rbansal427 who do you think can give a permission?
@rutvikrs
@rutvikrs Жыл бұрын
@@rbansal427 Congress MLAs specifically DK Shivkumar(check his declared wealth), KJ George and a few others.
@banestock
@banestock Жыл бұрын
@@rutvikrs absolutely! These rascals are sitting on millions in real estate because they hey their cut from so called developers to get their projects sanctioned on lakes etc! The rascals need to be shot!
@Asterix0110
@Asterix0110 Жыл бұрын
I have been living in Bangalore for more than forty years (yes, when it was still Bangalore) and I have seen the city turn into a cesspool of corruption. Nothing moves in this city without grease money. We certainly need to separate the political capital from the commercial one but who will bell the cat? Certainly not the present dispensation which is popularly known as the 40% government because they have to fund Operation Lotus for buying politicos at the Mandi.
@daddashikamani
@daddashikamani Жыл бұрын
Most migrants to city don't vote. Most flooded areas are also areas where migrate live. They never change their votes to their new place of living. Go out and vote.
@PK-tt5kk
@PK-tt5kk Жыл бұрын
I pretty much grew up in Bangalore. Loved and still love many aspects of the city but the infrastructure (lack of metro, bad roads, pathetic traffic) is extremely frustrating. Most of my friends and I have left the city for US, Canada etc.
@rutvikrs
@rutvikrs Жыл бұрын
When every city in India is like this why blame one party? If it comes down to that, you are blaming the wrong party.
@stalinsampras
@stalinsampras Жыл бұрын
@@rutvikrs Are you bjp supporter? Please listen all parties are corrupt BJP is no exception. All this politicians are super corrupt
@rutvikrs
@rutvikrs Жыл бұрын
@@stalinsampras yeah but Congress and JD(S) are a motherlode of corruption. there is literally a video of Congress MLAs discussing how much DK Shi makes while sitting in the opposition. God help us if he comes to power. I'd have voted AAP if I hadn't worked with IAC and saw the inner workings of the people in charge today. BJP is the least worst of the lot.
@abhinavmathur5648
@abhinavmathur5648 Жыл бұрын
Everytime someone who's not a Kannada (like me, but knows Kannada and maintains a low profile as he has seen the piling up of problems from 2006 in Bangalore) says that the BBMP (second highest taxation in the country) has made a colossal mess, I get the retorts of "Ohh you outsiders, please go back". Somehow questioning what did BBMP mess up so bad that you have multi crore apartments with no roads and no water (Tank mafia) becomes an attack on Bangalore citizens Money and Talent flow in the easiest direction, there definitely could be an exodus if companies realize they are no longer efficient or profitable, this may lead to a wake up call for all Bangalore residents who made large gains from the real estate boom. Every other country tries to attract talent, India tries to repel talent based on local language and caste, sad state of affairs
@muralimohan5687
@muralimohan5687 Жыл бұрын
Lol..
@saunLogan
@saunLogan Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for taking this up, I know nothing is going to happen but its important to speak and hope that all of this will lead to some solution.
@AyushKumar-pt7bx
@AyushKumar-pt7bx Жыл бұрын
Well Articulated analysis. Thanks for this. This is for local resident of Karnataka to choose leaders that can stay for full term. Or else we have to make our cities more autonomous with their own governing body under state government.
@harshgarg1448
@harshgarg1448 Жыл бұрын
Mp already follows the model of capital not being financial capital, and we can see the result in many dimensions of governance in Indore eg transportation and cleanliness
@rutvikrs
@rutvikrs Жыл бұрын
It simply means MP is not growing organically. Any organic growth leads to overspill and every developed country has this problem.
@bhargavdesai7984
@bhargavdesai7984 Жыл бұрын
@@rutvikrs not necessarily. If you move capital out, most of issues can be solved. Reason being, govt properties take too much of land area which is wasted and govt employees too prefer separate-bigger houses as they earn relatively more compared to other common citizens.
@harshgarg1448
@harshgarg1448 Жыл бұрын
@@rutvikrs I would disagree regarding organic growth as Indore is know for producing best higher education among the cities of MP, rather the development of MP is doomed by poor state govt policies e.g. poor quality primary and secondary education, policies focusing on distribution rather than job creation and disproportionate focus on agriculture sector as compared to other value adding industry. This is further exacerbated by historically poor state of public infrastructure. By pointing out Indore, I was trying to point out the better quality of city life in Indore relative to MP's GSDP that is not evident in other states as mentioned by Shekhar Sir.
@rutvikrs
@rutvikrs Жыл бұрын
@@bhargavdesai7984 you are taking a unilateral view of solving population crisis. I am saying that there is no city under modern capitalist conditions where a city specializes in a single sector. The auxiliary takes over and creates new industries and that leads to overcrowding, this explains why Tokyo and Seoul are some of the denses population. One does not start by separating commerce, industry and political centers.
@rutvikrs
@rutvikrs Жыл бұрын
@@harshgarg1448 it's only in states like that or with a political society can you "distribute" expertise and sectors. I was pointing out the same that only places with distributive policies can do it. The reason i replied is the comment matches the latter part of the video. "Separate the administration from the electorate" to their own small city. It's a terrible idea.
@birenpatel6248
@birenpatel6248 Жыл бұрын
Great analysis by Res. Shekhar Sir. Sometimes I wonder when he says I am a not an economist or technical person but a political analyst. After listening this episode , I agree and accept that to understand all the major issues of India , one should be a very sharp political analyst too !! Salute to you Sir.
@sunil2828
@sunil2828 Жыл бұрын
The print is the kind of channel we all need...unbiased, fact driven, in depth analysis...kudos to Shekhar sir and team🙏🏻🙏🏻✨✨
@mahanpathak24
@mahanpathak24 Жыл бұрын
Seems Bengaluru is gifted with an excellent drainage system. Any other city would be totally under water with record breaking rains. But Bengaluru is mostly up and functioning. Water logging is limited to the east. I believe , even this is not so difficult to solve . But this also highlights the fact that Bengaluru is often gifted with enough rains to sustain the city on its own. With so many natural advantages Bengaluru has a far greater potential.
@hb1549
@hb1549 Жыл бұрын
Sir i am from Bangalore. The thing is state has seen very weak governments in last decade or so. Last a government got majority was Siddaramaih. In most cases JDS gets 30-40, congress 80-90 and BJP 90-100. We need a strong leader in state with vision like SM Krishna/Narendra Modiji to change the face of Bangalore and develop other cities.
@banestock
@banestock Жыл бұрын
Don't bring up SM Krishna! He's the one who started this unsustainable development in bangalore all for money and greed! The corruption started there... Ever since then it's just been down hill with every politician trying to double the money he spent to get elected! There's a reason why karnataka is the most corrupt state in India! Its because these bandits politicians are looting the state and particularly bangalore! The city is being destroyed! And all these filthy politicians are looting in the name of caste politics! They should be lined up and shot!
@keshavkaushik21
@keshavkaushik21 Жыл бұрын
So you mean to say double engine is not working in Karnataka?
@hb1549
@hb1549 Жыл бұрын
@@keshavkaushik21 Do you know in last 10years 7 years ruled by Congress/JDS, only 3 years by BJP. Issues like ths should be not political. All parties should meet and come to unanimous decision tot tackle floods/drought. Who in next 3 years same places might face severe drought.
@karthika560
@karthika560 Жыл бұрын
Siddiramaiah got that majority because yediyurappa broke away from bjp at that time. Otherwise it was headed for another fractured mandate.
@hb1549
@hb1549 Жыл бұрын
@@karthika560 exactly bro..its our states fate
@IndranilFromIndia
@IndranilFromIndia Жыл бұрын
Feel bad for my old residential city in Bangalore - this city gave me a lot where I spent a few years of my life. The last bit about USA is apt - the capital city is different from the financial hub. I live in an American city - and yesterday there were torrential rains and the streets of this city were flooded. I saw cars getting stuck on the road, luckily I could drive back home :) My heart still beats for Bengalore. Do you really think our politicians will think about giving autonomy to the major cities?🤣
@sindhusuresh437
@sindhusuresh437 Жыл бұрын
Entire Bengaluru is not under water . Only the Eastern Parts are flooded - Marathahalli to HSR Layout stretch. Heaviest rain in 52 years; older areas have withstood it. That explains everything.
@mehboobilahi7389
@mehboobilahi7389 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunate but true. Shekar., spot on! You have hit the nail on the head. Our Indian metro cities have become colonies of politicians. Orphans , no one has sympathy for.
@hemmanurravindra7707
@hemmanurravindra7707 Жыл бұрын
Love your dissection of the chronically ailing cities' development's anatomy. Excellent. Thank you Sir.
@Charvak-Atheist
@Charvak-Atheist Жыл бұрын
Nexus between Builders, BBMP officials and Politicians (of all parties).
@nagatubein
@nagatubein Жыл бұрын
Sad story of once not so long ago , a beautiful city , now ruined by mad rush for development. Impacted area are new banglore where IT companies came and apartment came to support the influx of ppl.
@ratnasrinath3835
@ratnasrinath3835 Жыл бұрын
Mr Gupta.. This was excellent. We are aware of most of the points brought forward but you have put them together so..... Just excellent. Thank you.
@pspandey1
@pspandey1 Жыл бұрын
Every city in India is suffering from civic problems, for taking this issue 🙏
@rajkamalsarma5825
@rajkamalsarma5825 Жыл бұрын
The primary issue is unfortunately the lack of city planning and obviously growth of real estate fuelled by greed. Bengaluru is one of the most important economies for Karnataka and the country and yet the infrastructure is always given step motherly treatment. Moreover, the infrastructure is worse in the areas that have a large number of IT companies. This lack of infrastructure will have an impact on future investments to the city and unfortunately than the whole state might suffer.
@nirmalasrinivasan3945
@nirmalasrinivasan3945 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant analysis. Thank you Sri Shekhar Gupta and thank you The Print.
@ThePrintIndia
@ThePrintIndia Жыл бұрын
Hi Nirmala, Thanks for tuning in.
@vijaymenon8172
@vijaymenon8172 Жыл бұрын
As a Bangalorean must say this is one of the most insightful analysis of what's wrong with my city and State. Great suggestion to move the State Capitals to smaller cities...
@stephen6644
@stephen6644 Жыл бұрын
Are you malayali Menon is Kerala surname right??
@VishalKhopkar1296
@VishalKhopkar1296 Жыл бұрын
beautifully put. Bangalore has been an extremely unplanned city in India
@redrevolver11
@redrevolver11 Жыл бұрын
Bangalore is at high altitude and receives very moderate rains, building even a low cost less complex storm water drainage would have solved all the issues But these are things you have to plan before you develop the city and not a after thought
@mastergluex
@mastergluex Жыл бұрын
The problem with Native and Migrant Bangaloreans is that they lack political activism, including me when I was staying in Bengaluru. A huge number of Bengali IT workers has moved to Bengaluru in the last 2 decades, yet Bengali political leaders are out of the equation in the state politics that could look into the welfare of Bengali IT migrants living in the IT corridors in a very different situation from the natives. 75 years since Independence the different communities and cultures cohabitate with each other. Many US, UK, Canada born and brought-up Indians are participating in the political sphere internationally but that lacks in many states of India. Bengaluru does house Tamil, Telugu, and Kerala politicians indirectly in the political sphere. It is time to take another step to create a cosmopolitan political class in the cosmopolitan cities to focus on the welfare of white-collar migrants. Look at the sad state of Epsilon which is the home to Bangaluru's corporate and business elite, its residents include old-money billionaires like Rishad Premji, the chairman of Wipro, to new-age startup billionaires like Byju Raveendran. Britannia CEO Varun Berry, Big Basket co-founder Abhinay Choudhari, and Page Industries (Jockey) MD Ashok Genomal are among the select 150 people who live there. Overnight, Epsilon has gone from being a Utopia of the uber-rich to a marooned mess. Migrant IT aspirants from other states are moving to Bengaluru since the late 90s. Ever since a lot of state migrants (outsiders) settled in Bengaluru. Many of their children grew up in the last 20 years with the dream and preparation to join the IT sector as the 2nd generation workforce following in their parent's footsteps. The children of the state migrants that grew up in Bengaluru are Bangalorean and relate to Bangalore culture more than their native that they have never visited except for a few days of vacation every year. They are not outsiders anymore! In the early 2000s local people of Karnataka noticed the opportunity and handsome salary in the IT sector. They also encouraged their children to prepare for IT jobs. Ever since 2005 generations of locals are joining the IT workforce. The movement of fresh graduate engineers migrants from all over India to Bengaluru continued every year. The movement of the huge number of migrants results in the rapid growth of Bengaluru. This includes rapidly stretching urban boundaries of Bengaluru, the scarcity of water, dropping groundwater levels, pollution of lakes due to disposing of harmful chemicals, filling of lakes to made IT parks, flood due to lack of lakes for disposing of rainwater, toxic air pollution, traffic jams, high cost of living, and high burnout to meet the cost of living, and expensive goods and services. The blessing of the growth of the last 25 years due to the IT sector is turning into a curse due to poor planning. The same ideology can’t sustain Bengaluru in the coming decade. The urban planning body needs to contemplate and sketch out an improvised plan collectively with other rapidly growing cities of India to distribute the population evenly depending on the availability of resources in the demography. This is one of the prominent reasons, I am not willing to relocate to Bengaluru but rather negotiate with the employers to work from home living in my native. After all, everything in the IT sector is managed through the laptop connected to the internet, which allows the employee to work from anywhere in the world. This is my contribution to the city of Bengaluru.
@Albetroz1415
@Albetroz1415 Жыл бұрын
How can they be politically active when they have no clue about the rest of the state? Outside Bangalore they would all be clueless, just knowing Kannada won't help.
@saideepakb
@saideepakb Жыл бұрын
I think it's not the people but the system that's the issue - politics in India is a very local game. Diving in head first without knowing the local language and muscle power is asking for trouble. Cities need their own rights to avoid unnecessary intervention from state governments which have different goals.
@mastergluex
@mastergluex Жыл бұрын
Pun. BBMP politicians like every other politician have one unofficial job to do corruption and escape unnoticeably but they messed it up as everything was exposed. Politicians are becoming predictable such that the media can speculate too. Politicians must think big, think creatively, and get out of their comfort zone. How would it be that another state's politician joins BBMP with the motive to siphon off funds of BBMP to other states and vice versa? This will establish interstate political harmony with a pan-India shared objective promoting inter-state migration. Also, such a piece of news will make headlines putting a meal on the plate of journalists and stand-up comedians. Dark age of politics with politicians being exposed red-handed. Remember, if you are not the biggest fish in the pond then the biggest fish will eat you in politics.
@mastergluex
@mastergluex Жыл бұрын
@Munian Sekar Looking at the sad state of IT unions, it don't seems communism is a popular ideology in Bengaluru. Although communalism has certainly became more volatile in the last few years.
@prasannavenkatesvaran9975
@prasannavenkatesvaran9975 Жыл бұрын
A very unique and important topic and a wonderful analysis. Hope Indian citizens understand this and valuing their local government and governance. Kudos to you for bringing this up, because ultimately ‘Politics Matters’
@alchemist.3
@alchemist.3 Жыл бұрын
This is a very very very good CTC episode. Nicely analysed and interpreted. One of those that leave us all a big food for thought.
@abhisheknigam2918
@abhisheknigam2918 Жыл бұрын
in this regard, Gandhinagar is a really good example...The biggest and busiest city Ahmedabad is too crowded to be a proper capital...Look at Gandhinagar and it is simply a breath of fresh air with lots of greenery, good roads and is accessible to Ahmedabad...Surely, one of the best capital city in India
@Drkp23
@Drkp23 Жыл бұрын
Dear SG sir, I don’t understand this episode… if problem in Bengaluru flooding is because of too many Cheif ministers then what about Hyderabad which is having only one Cheif minister for last 8 years but Still roads get flooded if rains
@uthamkumard
@uthamkumard Жыл бұрын
Flooding happens in all cities. Hyderabad, Bangalore, Chennai.. But believe me infrastructure in Hyderabad is so much better than Bangalore. I say this after living for 7 years in Bangalore and my hometown is Hyderabad. Almost all taxes RTO, Land registration, electricity etc. are highest in Bangalore yet it's infrastructure is most broken. Political instability is the main reason for it.
@sanjayshirodkar2143
@sanjayshirodkar2143 Жыл бұрын
Very detailed information....kudos to your channel.... Really surprised to know that Bangalore is not having governing body for 2 years.... Worst politics
@prasanna3490
@prasanna3490 Жыл бұрын
Very nice analysis. The biggest problem India facing today is not of highways or big bang infrastructures, but the apathy of our cities. There must be an effort needed to make our cities sustainable and bring in accountability for those babus and politicians looting the cities.
@kalyannnBH
@kalyannnBH Жыл бұрын
Bangalore has good bus system. Good and educated people. The only issue is real really really bad roads, and the govt, be it any party, is really really thick skinned competing only with Rhinoceros. No matter how much issue they make it now, things will be Business as Usual soon.
@nikitamishra3408
@nikitamishra3408 Жыл бұрын
power cuts + water supply issues .
@rodyatube
@rodyatube Жыл бұрын
When you say Bangalore has good bus system it can mean only two things. Either you have no idea about Bangalore’s bus system or no idea about how a good world class bus system looks like.
@johnnybreeze8633
@johnnybreeze8633 Жыл бұрын
@@rodyatube gr8
@arijitganguly7944
@arijitganguly7944 Жыл бұрын
I have stayed in many cities. Trust me even small tier 2 cities have better bus transport. Yes there are many buses in Blr. But very less routes. Most of the roads are not serviced by buses on a regular frequency. Thats why so many people resort to using personal vehicles
@kalyannnBH
@kalyannnBH Жыл бұрын
@@arijitganguly7944 multiple small cities around Bangalore connected by efficient public transport like high speed train service is the only solution,. Plus an independent directly mayor for each City
@franklinmampilly9805
@franklinmampilly9805 Жыл бұрын
"Must Metros be the capitals of the States" . At least in Kerala they have got to this one right where largest city Kochi ("Metro of Kerala") us not State capital but instead it's Trivandrum.
@samyakjain3417
@samyakjain3417 Жыл бұрын
There are others like gandhinagar in gujarat too
@nirav667
@nirav667 Жыл бұрын
Never been to bangaluru but always wonder how come tech capital of india always have bad traffic, shekhar ji very detail analysis. make sense now..thank you.
@shashisieb
@shashisieb Жыл бұрын
Beautiful Analysis sir . I am Bangalore citizen for last 27 years and I agree to each and every point you said.. awesome 👏
@maitreyasharma
@maitreyasharma Жыл бұрын
The irony of bangalore is that now you have to pay extortionate rent to live in an unlivable city
@RajasNadkarni
@RajasNadkarni Жыл бұрын
I would ask, why should politicians even care? Half the Bangalore population is migrant and doesn't even vote. The parts currently flooded has this problem more acutely. Mahadevpura-Whitefield area has highest migrant population (white collar and others) and highest tax revenue! But also has poor health, sanitation and infrastructure. No politician will do anything where they don't get votes. People should help themselves. Get registered as voters. Show power of votes and make politician work for you.
@e.sanoop110
@e.sanoop110 Жыл бұрын
Nice vdo. Recent flooding shows the after effects of poor urban planning, lacking foresight and infrastructure is built ignoring environmental concerns. Hopefully the authorities have learnt the lessons at least from this floods now so that such things can be prevented in future.
@Abbyramrosy
@Abbyramrosy Жыл бұрын
This is an example how can we develop SMART cities. At the end of the day, it's not the money you allocate, but how we plan for the future, work towards it precisely and how we work together while executing each project.
@Ashish-pi4fg
@Ashish-pi4fg Жыл бұрын
Not sure why SG didn’t mention corruption in Karnataka. In last 2 weeks, there have been two allegations of corruption - one by the government contractors who alleged that they have had to pay 40% commissions to get government contracts and the other by a school association. How do we expect quality construction and infrastructure if contractors are giving 40% commissions?
@arkajitmaity5277
@arkajitmaity5277 Жыл бұрын
Is it as bad as SSC Scam, Cow Smuggling Scam and Coal Scam ?
@Ashish-pi4fg
@Ashish-pi4fg Жыл бұрын
@@arkajitmaity5277 how does that matter? Should it be investigated only if it is worse than them? Such a stupid argument.
@suvajeetdatta1220
@suvajeetdatta1220 Жыл бұрын
West Bengal had 3 CMs in the last 40+ years Didn't help either
@akshayss1000
@akshayss1000 Жыл бұрын
ive been watching bangalore flood news in all local channels but nobady has done this kind of analysis, very nice mr sg
@AUDI2605
@AUDI2605 Жыл бұрын
Love the muhavaras... Makes the episode so much more enjoyable 🙂🙂
@chepaukground7608
@chepaukground7608 Жыл бұрын
Firstly, Bangalore I feel your pain and it is very hard to watch the suffering. The bigger problem is the lack of town-planning. All our cities (outside of original Bombay) lack infrastructure including water, sewage, electricity, garbage-disposal, parking, rapid mass transit etc etc. There is no discussion on this aspect of life. On top of this we have rapidly rising population and so the demand for all these facilities will keep growing. We have politicians who are good are electioneering but pathetic on national/local vision and strategy. Finally, our press rarely calls out such issues - when Chennai was flooded out in 2015, it did not make even national new for couple of days. It mediocrity everywhere.
@rutvikrs
@rutvikrs Жыл бұрын
We just like to blame political parties and migrants. The issue is we are clueless in a field that is new to us(urban/city planning) considering the rapid expansion that is needed to house a rapidly urbanising India. To think where we were just a few hundred years ago, it's a national shame.
@yj9032
@yj9032 Жыл бұрын
When Hyderabad was flooded, HRH the Nizam-ul-mulk hired M. Vishveswarayya to build a state of the art drainage system. When Bengaluru is flooded, BJP blames minorities.
@karthika560
@karthika560 Жыл бұрын
Hyderabad 2020 has seen massive floods
@ranvijayrao4209
@ranvijayrao4209 Жыл бұрын
@@karthika560 Not the level of Bangalore
@amitsharma-vq1ed
@amitsharma-vq1ed Жыл бұрын
Came here to listen about Bangalore rains but like always Mr. Gupta started talking about Karnataka Politics, Municipal politics.
@4uXavier
@4uXavier Жыл бұрын
Super 👌 I like the way it's explained with data ... and guideline for changes ..
@savithakl7577
@savithakl7577 Жыл бұрын
Bangalore is represented by politicians like DKS who is rich enough owning 10 malls in Bangalore, Nirmala Sitaraman who is a visiting Bangalore on a tourist visa to keep her job or livelihood in union cabinet and our hapenning MP of Bangalore south, Tejasvi Surya who is now icognito and missing in action. People who are to work for Bangalore are not elected or selected by people. When Modi could have chosen a good kannada candidate to represent Bangalore in RS Nirmala Sitharaman was chosen. Will these tourists be bothered to work for Bangalore? Today Shimoga has better facilties than Bangalore with no direct taxes from its people. What a shame, despite all this our great PM says no corruption in Bangalore, this is most shameful. This reflects his vision for Karnataka.
@lightboi9752
@lightboi9752 Жыл бұрын
The central election committee of bjp has two out of its nine members from Karnataka. The cm himself is the district incharge of Bengaluru. Tejaswi Surya is the bjp Yuva morcha bigshot. DK shi is a prominent member of congress central committee. Karnataka Congress is the most active cells of congress. All of these show that Karnataka or Bangalore has no dearth of political support. It is the dearth of ideas and the fake sense of helplessness combined with a highly unmotivated municipal corporation.
@avishekhbanerjee2729
@avishekhbanerjee2729 Жыл бұрын
Mr Surya is busy making dose
@orunabho
@orunabho Жыл бұрын
Fundamental changes are needed in the way we have organized our country. Each of our 29 odd states are like a country by itself (in terms of its population) therefore are too big to manage and plan. But we have around 700+ districts in India including the bigger cities. Make each of them, districts and metropolis a state, so 700 odd states. And these 700 state CMs sitting in our parliament also as the 3rd body, the actual Rajya Sabha - keeping their regions interest at the primary responsibility. The current Rajya Sabha is a confused institutions with no accountability. Some sort of proxy to slow down the elected representatives. If one need to replicate the House of the Lord's do it directly. But instead of just feudal lords and zamindars, select or elect the members differently. Leaders of various unions and associations, NGOs, universities and institutions etc etc. e.g., Group that represents the income taxpayers, associations of traders, association of landed farmers, association of landless citizens, association of school teachers, association of private school owners, association of fishermen, association of LGBTs, association of civil servants, association of exservicemen
@mridulakapoor4310
@mridulakapoor4310 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding! Appreciate the honesty of the episode!
@correctthenarrative987
@correctthenarrative987 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, excellent point especially at close
@sankalp6872
@sankalp6872 Жыл бұрын
We as a country are myopic. More than the lack of resources, it is our inability to learn from mistakes that is responsible for our great "slide". I'm sure the outrage will be worth just two days of headlines and next year will have fresh outrage. Bangaluru to Mumbai and BJP to INC to DMK to TMC same story.
@rutvikrs
@rutvikrs Жыл бұрын
Not just as a country, as a society.
@pushkaraksh123
@pushkaraksh123 Жыл бұрын
Nothing in this country ever gets solved. I remember when I lived in Bangalore in early 2010s for a few years and there was the waterlogging issue back then just not as severe. I was really enamored by the city and its culture. I was optimistic that they aren't as dumb as politicians up north and would take necessary measures for this temporary issue.
@pankaj9900
@pankaj9900 Жыл бұрын
Everything in Bangalore boils down to one thing - Corruption! I haven't met 1 person in Bangalore in my last 10 years here that hasn't had to pay a bribe for any single document! Want passport - pay bribe to cops. Want Marriage certificate - bribe! Birth Certificate - Bribe. License, electricity connection, property registration etc.. For every single thing you have to pay a bribe!
@GinzaGeorge
@GinzaGeorge Жыл бұрын
Brilliant episode. Thank you for these details.
@ThePrintIndia
@ThePrintIndia Жыл бұрын
Hi Ginza, Happy to see you tune into our videos regularly. Thanks for ardently following ThePrint.
@timus77100
@timus77100 Жыл бұрын
Like always extremely well researched and explained insights. I think Mr. Gupta is one of the finest journalist in India presently. One remark which was not a part of the "bangalore problem" !! The fact that thousands of Indians are flocking/migrating to this city from all parts of India for career opportunities and pleasant weather and not to mention the multi-culti beer filled lifestyle the city offers. The city was never geared up to accommodate millions of people however now there is no looking back, infant most of the tech companies have massive expansion plans which means the infrastructure will be further under pressure. Congarts to entire PRINT team for putting up excellent videos. Keep it up.
@Prayukth
@Prayukth Жыл бұрын
In a country where the finance minister is more worried about the photos of her master appearing on sacks than the national economy, is the state of Bangalore surprising to anyone? Politicians are allergic to development..though they want credit for everything including the evolution of Homo Sapiens, detection of gravitational waves and the Chicxulub crater...
@arindamdutta9371
@arindamdutta9371 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@mg.f.9023
@mg.f.9023 Жыл бұрын
CM first blames the Rains, then he blames the past government.. Guess he has been busy working out the % cuts from contracts
@rutvikrs
@rutvikrs Жыл бұрын
All due respect, he isn't wrong when he blames the previous government. He can't raise the ground level. Did you know that it's only in the year 2018 we created the first updated maps for rajakaluves(inter lake canal system)
@mg.f.9023
@mg.f.9023 Жыл бұрын
@@rutvikrs Fair enough, So CM should have highlighted this issue before and put forward a plan to correct, right? But he has spent valuable time on BJP agenda of communalization instead.
@sharvarigc7714
@sharvarigc7714 Жыл бұрын
Wow... Such an eye opening analysis!!
@farhanahamed2061
@farhanahamed2061 Жыл бұрын
This was so useful. Thank you print ♥
@Bhairavvvv
@Bhairavvvv Жыл бұрын
I was staying in Bangalore for more than 15 years and I felt my city vizag is better in terms of infrastructure, greenary , pollution control and civic sense . I found Bangalore is over rated and corrupted P.S : I moved to my hometown 3 years ago due to corona and trust me I never regret my decision for leaving Bangalore
@rajavishnuvardhana6830
@rajavishnuvardhana6830 Жыл бұрын
Thank you🙏 stay in your cities... It will help us to reduce the population and traffic.
@monk9948
@monk9948 Жыл бұрын
If we are talking about city like Vizhag, it's better to compare with Mysore which have similar infrastructure, greenary, population and civic sense rather than a city that's growing at rate faster then lakhs of other cities around the world. Lol the comparison and the criticism itself is flawed. You can say Mumbai, Chennai, dehli are also not good as your city.
@Bhairavvvv
@Bhairavvvv Жыл бұрын
@@monk9948 dude iBangalore registered overnight growth due to IT companies otherwise it's a village nothing more or less ! It is the most unplanned city ever seen !! Growth and development can sustain if the city is planned !! That planning takes time and effort !! They say Rome wasn't built in a day similarly it takes time to build cities !! If you see a city like Bangalore which is developed at a very faster rate then you don't call it as a city but a garbage
@Bhairavvvv
@Bhairavvvv Жыл бұрын
@@monk9948 I stayed in Mumbai , Delhi , Kolkata and Pune too . You got to admit that they aren't sustainable for a long term living ! Let me tell you that these cities wont even sustain for 100 years especially Delhi and Mumbai
@Bhairavvvv
@Bhairavvvv Жыл бұрын
@@rajavishnuvardhana6830 ofcourse genius I will stay in my city , it's far better than your garbage city anyways ! You guys have cashed lot of money out of rents aren't you ? yet you blame migrants 😂 what a load of hypocrites you are ?Fun fact is that most of the money that your city stuffed up has come from migrants but not from locals but still you guys cry over us lol
@jayfloramusic
@jayfloramusic Жыл бұрын
My dream while growing up in a small town in West Bengal was to eventually settle in Bangalore for a good IT job, but I foresaw this coming so moved to US instead.
@dayanandahshivamurthy1684
@dayanandahshivamurthy1684 Жыл бұрын
Good for you ;) 😆
@bhyomkeshbakshika5938
@bhyomkeshbakshika5938 Жыл бұрын
Finally we can ask you to cover a point regarding the ways in which buses are driven without following any civic rules putting at risk lives in urban India...this only happens in India and the drivers are notorious and ruthless with car owners on the roads and streets
@StreetsToRemember
@StreetsToRemember Жыл бұрын
In the same state my city of Belgaum, the elections are complete, candidates are elected. Even after this, corporators haven’t been sworn in. Not so surprising that Delhi media never felt like highlighting this issue unless they saw water in Bangalore.
@rum81
@rum81 Жыл бұрын
Same thing in Hyderabad, most of inner city lakes have been filled/encroached and townships constructed. And nearby houses also suffer in rains.
@deshampravesh7108
@deshampravesh7108 Жыл бұрын
In Hyderabad mostly lakes encroached near Pragathi nagar, Miyapur, Patancheru create problems as rain water don't have any place to go. We atleast have musi river in middle of city to drain most of city flood water. In future Government can build huge underground tunnels for these type of problems.
@rum81
@rum81 Жыл бұрын
@@deshampravesh7108 I live in Madeenaguda lakes on manjeera pipeline road encroached and now rain water flows to pranaam hospital and on the road nearby. This area is 1-2 kms from the lake
@kiran14236
@kiran14236 Жыл бұрын
Stop lying lot of areas in Hyderabad is over flooded , it's not coming out bcz not much devloped like Bengaluru
@rum81
@rum81 Жыл бұрын
@@kiran14236 did you read the messages, we are saying hyderabad has overflow rain problems like bangalore
@krishnamohanneela7144
@krishnamohanneela7144 Жыл бұрын
When BJP says Double engine means every car must have two engines one car engine and other one is bulldozer engine.
@rutvikrs
@rutvikrs Жыл бұрын
Yes nothing like this ever happens in Tamil Nadu where the BJP has never come to power.
@hb1549
@hb1549 Жыл бұрын
Lol just see who ruled Karnataka from 2013 to 2019. It was congress, BJP is ruling only from 3 years.
@kiran14236
@kiran14236 Жыл бұрын
Just visit TN and TS worst flood effect with our BJP and this people hidden bcz those r not ruling by BJP
@MrNickjoy85
@MrNickjoy85 Жыл бұрын
Great Analysis Sir.
@basavarajab1135
@basavarajab1135 Жыл бұрын
Bangalore has 28 consistent in that ONE MLA Constituency having floods, due to bad infrastructure..but media shows whole banglore sunk in water
@DebjyotiGorai
@DebjyotiGorai Жыл бұрын
All cities went into hell after 1947 except Chandigarh which is new. No urban planning based on residential, commercial and industrial zones. There is also no aesthetics, no management of water bodies and their natural flow, no greenery etc. Indian lawmakers should look upon Western European and Nordic countries and Chinese cities.
@badri19700425
@badri19700425 Жыл бұрын
Bangalore infra is shit. This adjust maadi attitude & incredible corruption & epic road & bwssb incompetence
@--8674
@--8674 Жыл бұрын
Fully agreed. As a non karnataka person and been living in Bangalore for 5+ years now, a lot of things look stupid. Bangalore is a city that grew like a cancer, unplanned and unconcontrolled. A city planning can be judged by number of road dead ends and my God can Bangalore beat any other city in that! Add to that a shitty infrastructure and traffic flow planning and you arrive where Bangalore is. Entire city gets dumped on a single road during peak hours. You seldom find more than 2 options to travel anywhere from point A to point B in Bangalore. Can you imagine a city that boasts to be the tech hub of a country and still has road being dug for water pipelines in 2022 that too in prime city localities! A tech hub that still hours of power cuts daily, highly unreliable power distribution that cuts off power even if a mild breeze blows and city running on diesel generators for a considerable time daily. Corruption, lack of foresight and poor planning has led to Bangalore where it is now, unfortunately but fully deserved.
@surinew1
@surinew1 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful analysis!
@thirdperson2161
@thirdperson2161 Жыл бұрын
Why is everyone calling out Bangalore as if it's some kind of wild west? This is the first time such flooding has taken place in Bangalore. Bangalore, with it's IT has served everyone in this country, be it Bengali's or Keralites who come to Bangalore in search of jobs after their industries were destroyed by communists or be it North Indians who didn't want to set foot in NCR because of safety concerns or be it people from Andhra and Tamil Nadu who wanted to milk the cash cow that Bangalore is. I remember even Chennai was overwhelmed a couple of years back and nobody was speaking about Chennai the way they are talking about Bangalore today, the same thing happens in Mumbai every single year. Why treat Bangalore any different? If anybody doesn't like Bangalore they are welcome to packup their bag and leave for good.
@ishanbajpai6940
@ishanbajpai6940 Жыл бұрын
Dude you are getting overly emotional, every city in India get's called out like that for poor infrastructure. Getting defensive like that and talking like a child will not fix anything, if everyone leaves it's only going to hurt Bangalore and Karnataka overall.
@double_courage57
@double_courage57 Жыл бұрын
That's the whole point of the video. All of India's metros suck!
@parvadhami980
@parvadhami980 Жыл бұрын
Looks like the child didn't like this valid criticism 😭
@realhumphreyappleby
@realhumphreyappleby Жыл бұрын
Wow you managed to insult half the country in one comment. Never get that outraged that you lose control and show your true colours.
@Ashish-pi4fg
@Ashish-pi4fg Жыл бұрын
First of all, you or nobody has a right to tell anyone to pack their bags and go home. Bangalore is in India, and it belongs equally to every Indian. You being born in Bangalore have no more right on it as someone who comes from another state. So get out of your delusional view that people who come from other states are “others”. Second, criticizing the failings of an administration is not the same as disrespecting a city. You NEED to question your administrators and government and hold them accountable. Don’t you wonder why Bangalore despite having the second largest budget for a municipal corporation in India has such shit roads? Is it rocket science to build good roads that don’t get potholed in one monsoon? Rather than getting defensive about it, question your administrator and hold them accountable for the sorry state in which your (and mine) beloved city is in today!
@essee3984
@essee3984 Жыл бұрын
Bengaluru has some of the narrowest roads in all metros. Most main roads are just 2 lanes, which was surprising to see as a Delhite. One lane is perpetually blocked by BMTC buses, leaving only a single lane for other vehicles. Add some bottlenecks, flyover and metro construction, and you have the perfect recipe for traffic jams. Rains just make it a lot worse.
@joputhiyaparambil07
@joputhiyaparambil07 Жыл бұрын
Adding more lanes causes induced demand and result will be more traffic conjunctions.
@essee3984
@essee3984 Жыл бұрын
@@joputhiyaparambil07 Doesn't seem to be the case in other cities.
@joputhiyaparambil07
@joputhiyaparambil07 Жыл бұрын
@@essee3984 It is a well established theory. Search for the details.
@essee3984
@essee3984 Жыл бұрын
@@joputhiyaparambil07 There's a reason it's called 'Theory'. I've read about it, and it's pretty much valid for western cities that have a grid layout. You have live examples of Indian cities like Delhi, where lane expansion has been beneficial.
@joputhiyaparambil07
@joputhiyaparambil07 Жыл бұрын
@@essee3984 So there is a reason it's called a theory, is it possible to mention that 'reason'? BTW, are you claiming induced demand only happens if the city has a grid design?
@sohamsen3932
@sohamsen3932 Жыл бұрын
wonderful analysis...
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