What secrets are Warrior Cats writers hiding?

[@Moonkitti]

My light in the mist tinfoil hat thing is moreso thinking Graystripe's or Bristlefrost's death was supposed to be Squirrelflight's. Like, sure, they could have been leading up to bramblestar and squirrelflight kill ashfur, but I think it was moreso going to be "squirrelflight sacrifices herself for bramblestar" in the end, which would have been bad for several reasons, including taking spotlight away from the current arc's cats.

[@sleepycoffee7]

Hi moonkitti

[@PikaPotterhead07]

Oh hey Moonkitti!!

[@rosesaysmeow8358]

Hi Moonkitti. I love your videos!!!!!

[@that1blueberry]

U should have pinned me in dovewings silence and I still hate squilf

[@Phantom_Of_Fandoms]

@@that1blueberry no one cares

[@Anamizuki]

I'd say Bristlefrost dying was a much better ending than her living. It is a solid sacrifice out of true love to stop someone with corrupted and twisted love from returning. If she had lived, it would have been yet another romance.

[@warriorcatkitty]

THIS!! I LOVE BristleRoot, but I preferred the dramatic ending more than the "and they lived happily ever after" this time. They were one of the best couples is warriors. They loved each other enough to know that they couldn't force the other to join their clan with them. They *truely* cared for one another. Yet by the end, Rootspring had decided he was going to be the one to make the sacrifice, and leave ThunderClan to be with Bristlefrost. And then... she's gone. She made the sacrifice instead, in a much more tragic way, and larger scale. They didn't even get to spend the short time they had together because they both wanted to be loyal to their clans, they thought they were doing the right thing. It's just so impactful and tragic ahhh I love it sm -also if she had lived the people who hate the ship would be louder and bhgvbh I can't deal with that-

[@idonthaveanygoodusernameid7713]

@@warriorcatkitty yeah but now that’s she dead every BristleRoot shipper is crying and saying that it should have been ShadowSight when we all know that he’s been though enough, even if he did die no one would care besides ShadowSight lovers

[@rosesaysmeow8358]

Tru... but Bristlefrost :(

[@kaysrandomchannel4618]

I kinda thought Moth Flight's Vision was good, but I think that was because they made her a likable character.

[@PZW_]

I could never finish Moth flights bison. I tried twice but I feel it was to long and to rushed so it was hard to keep my attention. Personally I feel the plot makes nos ease with her getting pregnant. The book was solely written so show how the now med cat rule came about. They could have made a much smaller story in a code book.

[@warriorcatkitty]

@@PZW_ omg, literally the same exact thing happened to me. I tried twice to read the book, and both times I got half-way through then couldn't finish. I think I even skipped to the end and skim-read it the first time lol.

[@PZW_]

@@warriorcatkitty EXACTLY! The book is so boring! I just skipped to the end

[@weedcat135]

I hate moth flight's vision A LOT as someone with adhd.

[@PikaPotterhead07]

@@warriorcatkitty same!

[@tigerspruce8580]

I really wish, if that DoTC 2 rumor were true, we could've gotten that. I really wanted to see how we went from the names like Gray Wing to Jaykit, Jaypaw, Jayfeather. How did they decide on that change? Was it because kits were pretending to be apprentice age, and apprentices with warrior names had tried to fool other clans? Was it because old cats from the tribe told stories of Sharpclaws (the tunnel trials back with the ancients, Fallen Leaves.) And the apprentices wanted to earn their names like how a sharp sharpclaw would earn their title? I dunno, I just want to see more from the DoTC timeline. The fact that not a lot of people gave that arc a chance, myself included at first until I went back and read the first three books again and realized how much I adored the book, just makes me think they pulled the plug on DoTC a bit too soon.

[@Wolfydoo]

I havn't read it yet (I skipped it because it was a prequel), but it sounds pretty interesting. I think they should try dotc again!

[@meteor3521]

Rivestar/riveriplled was the first to enforce rules of the apprenticeship. I don't know a book that appears in, but it's true.

[@typhlosiontubeplays]

"IT'S ALL JUST A THEORY, A WARRIORS THEORY, AND MEOW!"

[@QuirkOverhaul]

Going to say Onestar's Confession was the most "rushed" Can't say I hate the end of The Broken Code, thought it was perfect(other than ashfur dying a villan, really thought he'd redeem himself). Bristlefloof dying was genius because nobody saw it coming.

[@Zelologist]

Bristlefloof lmao

[@Spidermonkey43]

Onestars confession was so rushed. Like they wrote the whole book and then realized “oh shoot! We didn’t have him confess anything and have everyone forgive him two seconds later with no character development at all!”

[@NapaCat]

I feel Juniperclaw and the DF cats who helped fight Ashfur should've been allowed into StsrClan

[@sweetwolfsteve5583]

No it wasn't they had such a amazing build up between bristle and root and the idiots killed bristle off why to change the warior code they could have done that without killing bristle off

[@apossum6231]

@@sweetwolfsteve5583 dude, that ending was absolutely perfect. call me morbid for this, but bristlefrost dying was so refreshing to read. it’s clear that the erins LOVE to keep their protagonists alive. its only until we move to another protagonist that they have chance to die(take hollyleaf for example). however, bristlefrost was young and was still a pov character. the erins have NEVER done that before. bristle dying was emotional and sad, and you’re just upset that the erins tried something new.

[@jonathancoleman9062]

I actually really liked the second half of Vision of Shadows. The plot was never just about Darktail. The original prophecy also involved Skyclan coming to the lake, and them trying to fit in was the last three books. Any more time devoted to the rogues would have ultimately just been drawn out, even though Thunder and Shadow time jumped so much that it might as well have been a super edition. There isn't much more story to be told there, and honestly it was nice to see the clans dealing with internal politics instead of the "random cat who wants to destroy them all" of the week.

[@jinx7819]

I think my problem with the second half of Vision of Shadows is the dramatic drop in tension. The main conflict ends in Shattered Sky, the rest of the arc is just cleaning up after Darktail. Skyclan being driven from the gorge? Darktail. Shadowclan imploding? Darktail. Rowanclaw dying? Darktail's lackeys. The Shadowclan-Skyclan conflict is extremely interesting and I love the internal struggles more than generic outsider #27, but it should have been relegated to a Super Edition. The defeat of the villain has caused more damage to the clans than the literal pits of hell opening up and spewing demons should have been given more weight. It would be wrong if the dark forest was defeated in book 3, and the rest of Omen of the Stars was dealing with the fallout, so that's why the second half of Vision of Shadows falls flat for me. Sorry if this is all over the place I had a lot of ideas I was trying to cram into one comment lol

[@hollowwhisker]

I loved dotc, its my favorite series. I hope one day they do make a sequel to it instead of super editions or novellas, make it take place after the 4 books

[@warriorcatkitty]

I loved Dawn Of The Clans sm!!

[@hollowwhisker]

@@warriorcatkitty yess it's the best!!

[@Blackfurkitty]

Rootspring seriously deserves a happy ending

[@Wren_BurnsHam]

Fr fr (let’s start a chain >:))

[@sweetwolfsteve5583]

Yeah it was so stupid that they killed bristlefrost off

[@Ivypool123]

yes😭

[@XOrtKnight]

Yeah. That ending was with Bristlefrost but ERIN KILLED HER OFF.

[@ThatNightCourtFishFaerie]

I WAS SO FREAKING SAD WHEN THEY KILLED BRISTLEFROST

[@cherrytonshawty9120]

Graystripe's death was one step closer to the end of an era. Makes me wonder how much time the remaining few Arc 1 cats have left.

[@hawktalon7890]

Not a lot and true to Erin Hunter form it's mostly ThunderClan cats who are still kicking. Though I'm amazed Mosspelt is still around, she was an adult for all of the first arc that I can recall. Everyone else that's left showed up as kittens.

[@Bluejaylover]

Reading dawn of the clans is what made me stop reading warriors, not because it was bad, because it was good, or at least I enjoyed it more then I had any other book I had read from warriors. (for context! I read it later on, so I had read all the way up to squirrelflights hope, which was already making me think the books were not worth it anymore) When I read those books it was so fun because it was all these new characters without any of the old drama, and when things like border crossings, or loners minding their own business, it was seen as bad to act like the current characters act all the time. It felt good, like a new story and I thought "ok maybe its time to not read these anymore, I can even stand the plot of the story anymore" So the last warrior books I remember enjoying was dawn of the clans.

[@aliviahouk7018]

My theory is ivypool's super edition was going to set up for her being deputy or being a deputy book. And we chose riverstar because we didn't know. All the super edition options were going to tie into the starless clan arc. Mistystar's would be about her dying. And since we don't have a poll yet for 2024 and it's already may... I'm saying ivy gets it. Since if we knew their plan we'd choose her without even looking at the other chooses it wouldn't be fair so the decided to give the other two a chance. And now that we're getting a squirrelstar and obviously an ivypool as deputy they're giving us the super edition. Now just gonna brainstorm for 2025.

[@Snowstar837]

I honestly want to know what the heck kind of plot they had in mind for Mistystar's SE because I can't see any room for a new story or plot there

[@aliviahouk7018]

Probably her death and what the heck was going through her head in the broken code with following ashfur so strongly and still exileing mothwing, harelight, and icewing even afterwards. And probably a little in starclan where she is stressed at the fact that her clan has no leader, deputy, or medicine cat with any way of contacting starclan.

[@aliviahouk7018]

Maybe the other dawn of the clans 2 protagonists could have been any of grey wing's kits and either of clear sky's daughters. Likely due to being related to important cats. I'd hope for silverstripe and dewpetal. Or if they HAD to have a male then white tail. He is the least used of grey wing's kits. Or like one of thunder's kits (who weren't in tall shadow's book even though they were born), drizzle or the other one, or clover or thistle. Last option us dew nose, eagle feather, or storm pelt.

[@merafirewing6591]

Also there is technically a big lost era between Dawn of the Clans to the events of the Original Series. I do feel that the Dawn of the Clans is going through that phase that the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy had went through.

[@JustDuckiest]

I've really gotta read DotC. I admittedly skipped it and went straight to AVoS. Also, I am so happy with how they decided to kill off Ashfur and that Squirrelflight wasn't the one who did the final confrontation. Ashfur didn't deserve seeing her again, and I doubt she would get closure from confronting him again - he obviously wasn't going to learn, and would have just continued trying to own Squirrelflight.

[@Wolfydoo]

SAME SAME i feel bad about it now.. Also I agree, It teaches readers that an abuser's victim doesn't always have to confront the abuser, or something like that!! No idea why people wanted him to be redeemed, he almost killed a almost whole family (squilf basically adopted them then), blocked them from their religion, made a medicine cat hated in his clan and said that they were alike because they were hated or something, even though it was HIS FAULT just to get some petty revenge for not getting a girlfriend, abused squilf MORE when he finally got hold of her, and people still treat him as if he was "just a sad baby who was misunderstood"

[@FunDipOneDip]

Fellow people who skipped DoTC and went to AVoS hello 🤑

[@JustDuckiest]

@@FunDipOneDip hahahah I've read it now, it's actually quite good!

[@FunDipOneDip]

@@JustDuckiest Dang I’ve gotta get them then!!

[@BRICKWarriorOfBloodClan]

Would it really be a bad idea for these scrapped ideas to be implemented into the books, some of them were probably interesting. Erin's should never completely scrapp anything, instead figure out a way to make it into the story

[@potatoes2686]

I had no idea the Super Editions had that many errors!

[@Sheedystar_the_cat]

Can’t wait to go back to Dawn of the Clans with Riverstar’s Home!

[@YinAndYang_ii]

2:35 wish we had even just one more book, slash, a villain, we never got to see what happened, they just ended it with slash alive

[@VisibleDrone]

Can we take a moment to appreciate the hard work Akira and Dako put into these videos

[@uwuifyingransomware]

Wild to me that DOTC sold badly. It’s always been my favourite arc, and even though the pacing was off, the concept of seeing the clans form was way too interesting for me to care

[@meteor3521]

Same.

[@Ivypool123]

i like the special Adventure about Mothflight she is the only canon ADHD Charakter in Warrior Cats and as someone with adhd i like that😂

[@Spidermonkey43]

She’s canonically ADHD? That’s cool!

[@warriorcatkitty]

I would like it, if I didn't highly dislike Moth Flight. Lol.

[@airconditionedBreeze]

@@Spidermonkey43 Well she did get distracted out on hunts & bring back plants instead of prey so technically ig

[@GweenOfTea]

If your theories on Bristlefrost are right, I think it’d be a positive thing for the series because that means the writers are actually more aware of their fans than they were before. I don’t want them to always pander to us and do things that we like, mixing it up is awesome and I think bristlefrosts death was a good example of it, but I’m hopeful at that prospect nonetheless and hope it makes A Starless Clan one of the best arcs in the series

[@galaxydeathskrill5607]

I would have loved a sequel to Dawn of the Clans, although Mothflight's vision works as well Sorry I'm still on Thunder rising

[@Rekik_and_Cherelle]

Akira- Don’t spread this as fact Me- that sounds like accurate though

[@roomismoor]

i feel like dawn of the clans should be continued, or at least have more super editions/novellas for pretty much the same reasons you stated because so many people like reading, but aren’t super dedicated to like 60+ books so just read dawn of the clans instead, and you don’t really need to read the others that much, and also, it could easily axe and more or something if more people want to have more of the series

[@Echo.2.1]

Tiger star: Terrified of Sandstorms diva music, also if she found out that he killed her dad..👀

[@jarl-b_1124]

I have a head canon that Sandpaw hated Firepaw so much bc her dad just died and Firepaw waltzed in all happy

[@Echo.2.1]

@@jarl-b_1124Yeah I thought the same thing, but here they are, married happily😌

[@jinx7819]

I think Dawn of the Clans would have benefited from being two arcs, not having a sequel. The first three books are some of the best Warriors have to offer, and the story and cast stay concise. However they seemed to have realized (potentially due to the poor sales) that they need to cram the actual formation of the clans into the last 3 books, and hastily added a bunch of cats (Slash's group) to fill out 5 clans, and you get lost in the torrent of new characters after getting to know the cast from The Sun Trail so well over the first half of the arc. The only thing of the current Clans that's established in Dawn of the Clans is the names of the clans, for god's sake, and it's the last thing that happens in the arc before it ends. Dawn of the Clans definitely needed more books to tell the story it was trying to tell in its own arc, not a sequel arc imo.

[@sanicpowers6253]

The entire Erin Hunter team havent even met in person, I dont think WFH really changed much

[@Spidermonkey43]

Personally dawn of the clans was good except for the fourth book, but it doesn’t really need a second arc. I would like more novellas and super editions but it doesn’t need a second arc.

[@ironwolf5802]

A joke theory I had for a moment was that writing the books is them herding cats and still can't get get them to do what they want when they make them up.

[@DAC_eq]

Ivypool still needs a super edition. It was so close

[@MutMiks]

I would have loved to have a second dawn of the clans arc... too bad i guess. Unless after ASC...

[@carissaewhite]

dawn of the clans is literally how i got into warriors😭😭

[@Movedaccounttt]

fun fact: the only warriors book in my school's e libary is mothflight's vison for some reason

[@BiscuitisCool]

Oakfur please become the oldest warrior cat ever

[@Barnacl3_Boi]

Loved this vid, Akira!! Really interesting and informed theories

[@Ruikazooi]

With dawn of the clan, it felt like many thing were missing, and it should have been continued, the super editions did clear a few things up but, in my opinion I would have loved to see Dawn of the clans continued.

[@sylvie3151]

Akira, is it true that Bristlekit, Stemkit and Graykit will be recreation of Bristlefrost, Graystripe and Stemleaf?..Kinda like Cinderpelt and Cinderheart. What do you think?..

[@sweetwolfsteve5583]

I really hope not that whole recarnation thing is boring I never liked it when Queen's named their kits after dead warriors a kit should be named after something original and not have to feel like they have to live up to said cat that their named after

[@sylvie3151]

@@sweetwolfsteve5583 Your right, but there must be a reason behind it, don't you think?

[@RowanChisel]

I hate to ruin it,but I do believe they were named after Stemleaf,Greystripe,and Bristlefrost.

[@sylvie3151]

@@RowanChisel Don't worry, your not ruining it. I just guess.

[@Spidermonkey43]

@Sara Moustamandi same

[@sweetwolfsteve5583]

5:17 even if its just speculation i agree with this one there was so many mistakes and so so so much filler it really does feel like its rushed

[@seriouspurrsahead7445]

I found out the publishing company dictates the story to the editor team and I think that makes a lot of sense in some regards to what freedom the creative team has in development and plots. I liked Leopardstar’s Honour and Mothflight’s Vision though😹

[@aimlovesmusic1469]

Im currently making my way through reading mothflights super edition

[@creamcickepika14]

I kinda related to mothflight’s character because she was kind of a space cadet who payed attention to things nobody else cared about It’s a shame they didn’t make her the protagonist of a sequel arc

[@briannamaguire-id7uu]

Please make a part 2!!!!!!!!!

[@ladala99]

Sad about DotC if true. I'll admit to being part of the problem - I jumped ship after The Last Hope because I was fed up with the pacing of TPoT and OotS and felt everything involving the Dark Forest cats grouping up and fighting real-world cats was not only a massive retcon, but completely jumping the shark. Especially the Great Battle. So as soon as I saw it good ending point, I stopped getting the books. After several years and I believe while AVoS was halfway through, I started reading from where I had left off through the library, as I had discovered my library's e-book collection. DotC was the Warriors I had originally fallen in love with, and at least through book three I was hooked. While the rest was a little unfocused, I still enjoyed it far more than the previous two arcs. The arcs we've had since are fine, more because I'm not buying them anymore and am just along for the ride, so even that supernatural stuff I hated returning in TBC made less of a negative impression. But it's really sad that DotC is just one arc if it could have been more.

[@lilam0ss]

complete off topic, but can you PLEASE make a video addressing the funny age/time periods??? an example is that shimmerpelt of river clan had lived past generations of different leaders and seen kittens grow into elders in her life and she is only now considered a senior warrior??

[@hermitcraftstuff_]

I personally have read most of the Bravelands books, and I can confirm that the second arc seemed short. I had read #1 and #2 of the second arc, and already, if it were warriors, felt like it could've been the fifth book. I also agree that I did not enjoy the second arc as much as the first.

[@annelivalkama7451]

Brambestar couldn't fight Ashfur because he had a good reason since he had been a ghost for most of the arc than was badly abused mentally by Ashfur and how would've the others leader thought if Bramblestar didnt show that he was the real cat. Plus Bramblestar could have disappeared permanently leaving Thunderclan with no hope of StarClan reconnecting. Squirrelflight should have gone through so her trauma with the fire would be resolved.

[@Lilywithcatears]

I liked Leopardstars honor, despite all the mistakes

[@Ivypool123]

same

[@paxet.]

Love this so much! And I agree. I hated Mothflights book so much and I'm happy that lots of people are calling it out.

[@sweetwolfsteve5583]

I hated mothflight and her book to she made that stupid rule med cats can't have kits or a mate and she gave her kits up for her sake not the sake of the clans

[@MrWereWolfGirl]

I didn't hate it.. but I loatheeed SC because just because she is not capable of taking care of kits and being a med cat nobody is ... And how needlessly rude they were to poor Acorn fur.

[@Spidermonkey43]

Moth flight and Micah and the chapters with her kits were cute, but the book itself was kindve boring and not well written

[@MrWereWolfGirl]

@@Spidermonkey43 and I hate how they just forget that she has ADHD x x

[@Spidermonkey43]

@@MrWereWolfGirl yeah kindve a big part of Moth Flights character although I can’t expect cats to know what ADHD is

[@pspspspspsps5326]

Nah cause Greystripes death had me in tears

[@sharkytetra1539]

I honestly really enjoyed the Dawn of The Clans arc, I was bummed that they didn't continue it. Out of all of the super editions books I really disliked Leopardstar's. It made me really dislike her as a character. In the Broken Code I was so sad when Bristlefrost died, I enjoyed her character but it was a great twist ending! I'd love to see them throw twists like that into future series!

[@YelIowBug]

Moth Flight's Vision was the first warriors book I read😭

[@Itsmetzi919]

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[@spottedheart5942]

Yay new video

[@PZW_]

Im still sad about bristle frosts death 💔

[@karra2571]

I'm early for once!! Great video!!

[@_novixx_]

SEE THIS IS WHY WR DONT CLOWN ON THE DEATHS, THEN THEY KILL YOUR NEW CHARACTERS THEY YOU JUST STARTED TO LIKE😭💔

[@Kxxtea]

Not me who just finished Dawn Of Clans and regretted it because I didn’t quite learn anything.

[@lizzypeer8709]

I haven't read a few of those books you spoke of, but read the others. Wow. The whole thing with screwing up big time with that one book there (short term memory issues, so I can't remember the name already). That's worst than my 40 sum chapter Originals (based from tv show) fanfic where I made an error. Had to correct the problem that I started Kat (from Vampire Diaries) off with being human and then forgot she was supposed to be human, because she suddenly was a vampire. Lol. Had to fix a few chapters of that. Lol. I think that's the worst error that I've ever read or heard of from Warriors. I'm behind, as I haven't gone to the library since probably fall last year. Been busy with selling and packaging yard signs for shipment and then my sister had me helping her cull photos (flag them, etc). Can't wait for next month when I can breathe. I guess I can't be disappointed with Warriors though, as it's more than one writer of the series. And if there's not good communication or they're not reading each other's finished drafts or books, then it would screw things up.

[@sidegrabsheriff]

broken code was epic

[@MICKEYWCUE]

In yellowfangs secret٫ raggedstar was raggedstar before raggedstar was raggedstar (he was deputy and he was raggedpelt at the time)

[@zariabrackett]

The second dawn of the clans book looks like the shrek cover

[@XxKodaxX-k9l]

Hi your have a new subscriber I have been watching you for over a long time

[@sidegrabsheriff]

it would be nice to get a sequel to dawn of the clans, dawn of the clans was awesoem

[@berrycloud269]

will be ivypool superedition?

[@ThatNightCourtFishFaerie]

Bristlefrost should not have died..

[@NightTheKittenn]

I also think Moth Flights Vision shouldn’t exist but that’s because I cant stand Moth Flight 💝

[@waddle..666]

Moth Flight in SfH [Squirrelflight’s Hope] was absolutely horrible

[@Dignity534]

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[@sophietremblay3795]

Mothflight vision was a great book

[@Crucifixedwastaken]

Hii before this comment gets flooded over. Dont let it become invisible!

[@MarigoldFlightWCUEeatssalami]

Oops did time thingy 😅

[@Rain_WCUE50]

2:59 I have this book for some reason

[@airconditionedBreeze]

*Man* people are hating one of my favorite SEs sob

[@ccondelli]

I still wish they hadn't completely killed off Bristlefrost, she was one of my favorite characters of all time. Like, if they're gonna kill her at least let her be in StarClan my heart can't take the unfairness that Graystripe, and even Ashfur got to go there but not her...

[@Eclipse78564]

Im reading leopardstars honor just because of the mistakes lol

[@SplashWarrior_Edits]

Noo I’m reading mothflights vision right now 😂

[@ImaDeltaNow]

Nom Nom Video :3

[@RSOD]

whatever they're hiding i doubt it's worth much

[@starvee_wc]

Wow i have never been this early to a video before

[@sophietremblay3795]

Well not surprising honestly dawn of the clans was flattened and boring the 6th book of the 7th cycle was terrible and why the freaking authors completely killed of bristlefrost honestly I hope they had a lot of backlash for that

[@Magzie]

I just read the book…..

[@MissTamara1986]

I mean I love warrior cats and I definitely love warrior cats more than cartoon cat nglll

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ASO THERE IS SPIOLERS⚠️ lol

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[@disused6147]

ive watched your content for a while but dont you dare diss moth flight's vision

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[@kalublah]

Probably an unpopular opinion, but the Erins should have let Squilf and Bramble fight Ashfur. Bramble dying being a side-effect and getting Squirrelstar would have been a great ending for Bramble and maybe sop up some sympathy for the guy. Later writers just didn't know how to write him to be likable starting with Po3, and it sucks that he's just gonna rot at the end of this arc. Also we'd definitely have a Squilfstar at this point :)

[@asaschuemann9545]

Another Akira video, more Squirrelflight simping. Not to sound like an internet troll here, but, is there any agreement at all that maybe, just maybe, Bramblestar and Squirrelflight both are imperfect characters who are prone to gaslight the other one in their 5.5 arcs of relationship? I mean seriously, Bramble got very needlessly butt-hurt with Squirrel during New Prophecy and Squirrel's super edition, but Squirrelflight also went straight to hating him without stating a reason in N.P. and gave him the diva move of "it's your family member or me" with Hawkfrost, rather than taking the logical route of actually TELLING HIM what was wrong with him being around Hawkfrost. Bramblestar was a bit stupid, I'll grant, but everyone from Leafpool to Sandstorm to Ashfur in book 5 of N.P. was pointing out to Squirrel how she wasn't being fair to Bramblestar by using her connection with her sister as an adequate source of information to condemn Hawkfrost, without considering how Bramblestar might feel about her begrudging him for sympathizing with HIS BROTHER. Not to mention, the only reason he was pissy with her in Omen of The Stars was that she literally LIED to him about raising her sister's kids! As we see in Bramblestar's Storm, Bramblestar still would've loved them as his own by virtue of raising them anyways, she didn't need to lie. And while yes, Ashfur definitely didn't deserve Squirrel's affection or anyone's for that matter, saying that Bramblestar is exactly as bad is needlessly going off into the other ditch rather than staying on the road. Bramble was mad because his trust was breached, which anyone would be mad about, I mean hell, Squirrel was mad when Bramble breached her trust in New Prophecy, so why should Bramble not be allowed that? I apologize for this slight rant, but it just really bugs me that the fandom has a double standard of nit-picking either Bramblestar or Squirrelflight, but never Bramblestar AND Squirrelflight. Both had good moments, and both had bad ones. Neither of them were saints and neither were devils (Ashfur was the only devil in their lives). You don't have to heed my opinion on this matter, but really, would it kill anyone to be a bit more objective?

[@hawktalon7890]

Personally, I never liked either of them as characters. They just remind me of your overly dramatic teenage bully friends that got into a relationship and never improved as they got older.

[@tigerwoman4411]

Nothing wrong with the book!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@tigerwoman4411]

Stupid Vision of Shadows was never going be 3 books!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Cromazone]

Rootspring seriously deserves a happy ending